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'Good, old fashioned butt-kicking'

Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:43 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Of Obama's sweeping South Carolina victory, Obama Chief Strategist David Axelrod said, "This was a good, old fashioned butt kicking -- as we say in this business."

He credited turnout, which he said approached half a million people and Obama's broad support, including getting 24% of the white vote, according to exit polls. "He's bring new people into the party," Axelrod said, adding, "It's just a harbinger of things to come."

Axelrod also questioned the Clinton spin of trying to make Florida and Michigan relevant after all the candidates had signed pledges to not campaign there, including an afternoon memo on the topic.

"It is kind of curious," he said, smiling wryly. "We all agreed to the Democratic Party rules. We all signed a pledge.

"When that memo came out in the middle of the afternoon, I knew this would be a good day."

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Break a Pledge?! Who does Hillary think she is? Bill?
HILLARY HAS A LOTT OF BUTT TO KICK============AND IM LOVING IT.
Wow! Great crossover of the electorate! OBAMA 08!
Shouldn't that read "good old fashioned BUTTS kicking!?" We (SC) put the Clintons over our collective knee and SPANKED them!
I've been a Democrat longer than an Obama supporter and I am pleading with the Clinton supporters to please realize that we may LOSE the November election if Hillary is the nominee.  Imagine the Supreme Court makeup after another four years of a GOP in the White House.  I swear to God Hillary supporters, you will be about as welcome as a Florida Nader voter if we nominate her and lose the November elections.  Please come to your senses and smell the political reality!!
Let's all chip in and buy Hillary one of those theraputic donut-shaped cushions....
Axelrod.  Quiz: which is the only campaign with commericials that can be seen in FL tv?

Hillary.  No.

Obama.

More evidence of dirty Chicago campaigning.  Obama is violating the pledge.
Yes, very good David.  However, magnanimity is in order. We do NOT need "butt-kicking", etc. We don't need Bill Clinton, etc.

Don't you see?  This is good for the country. Imagine this type of message going out into the world from the U.S.A.  Magnanimity. Not arrogant bullying. Maybe Iowa and South Carolina have set the stage for real leadership from the U.S.A.  Just maybe.  However, I am still reluctant to count any chickens before they all hatch.
What a surprise that the Clintons try to get around teh rules!
Why no one ever check Hillary's dishonest and arrogant claim that she is ready to be president on day one? No one before her was ready for president on day one. They all learned from the job and nothing is wrong about it so long as they have good judgement and surround themselves with the right people. But Hillary's poor judgement is evident in her war vote. Her ability to be arrogant and mislead is dangerous to the presidency and to the interest of the public. That she lived in the White House for years doesn't qualify her as a president at all.
I feel Hillary and Bill are bad together especially as a team. I feel if Hillary really had the guts to stand up to Bill she would tell him this is her race and not his. Effidently she doesnt. Even though I feel she will win the democratic nomination to me it shows how a shark she can be. You dont really know how maniputive she can be. Watch out America if you elect this woman.
Are you kidding
So much is being made of Bill Clinton's comments contributing to the 81% black vote for Obama in SC.  To what do the talking heads attribute the 83% black vote Obama received in Nevada?
As a 42 year old american and retired servicemember I have ALWAYS voted republican...but not this election: Obama is my prime choice for president.  The only way that I will vote against my party is if he is the one nominated.  If [the] Clinton[s] are nominated all bets are off.  There are many republicans supporting Obama but this will only be borne out in the national election.
I am a Chicagoan who is very excited about the possibility of having a Democrat elected to the white house.
However, the recent behavior of the Clintons has muted my interest in their returning to power. Hill & Bill have
been distorting Barak Obama's record and I am disgusted by the use of these smear tactics.  
It seems the Clintons will do anything to win.
If Hillary should end up running against McCain - this die hard Democrat may be voting Republican in November.
<i>"...the South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Carol Fowler, who told us unequivocally she did not consider this to be in violation of pledge made to the early states..."</i> - Boston Globe January 22, 2008

D. Andrews of Charlotte, the NATIONAL ad the Obama campaign is running reaches Florida but is deemed FAIR.

Hillary slinking into Florida, which she is doing, is a violation. The Clinton's will do anything to get elected.
Congratulations to Senator Obama for his victory in SC. It looks like he will win a majority of democrats, for the first time, in this vote. It will be interesting to see the demographic breakdown.

Hillary (unlike senator Obama, who NEVER congratulated HER on her victory in NV) was quick to call with her congratulations. It's his night and his supporters, who haven't had much to celebrate in the last couple of weeks, should enjoy the glow of victory while it lasts.

What did Jesse Jackson do in '88? (64%-1200 delegates total) How much did Edwards beat Kerry by in 2004?(FIFTEEN points) Who was the eventual nominee?

Monday-SOTU address
Tuesday- A win in Florida with a real cross-section of voters.
While Chuckles and Co. change their depends and act like this is a big deal, the narrative has been taken over by the voters and the talking heads change their tune to suit the day's events.

Van
D. Andrews Obama is the only candidate who has a national commericial...meaning shown on any TV in the nation watching.  He isn't targeting advertising in Florida.  For goodness sake he wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan unlike Hillary Clinton.  Of course they want the delegates to count.  The Clintons will do or say anything to get to back to the White House and refight that horrible "Vast Right Wing conspiracy".  Heck we got the Iraqi war after a son tried to refight his Fathers battles....what will we get when the Clintons get another term?  I think we will actually get a President McCain and a huge hangover for being so stupid.
A great night for people who really want this country to use its collective genius to rescue us from this Bush mediocrity.
The Clintons however will not go away, they would rather the democrates lose in November if they are not crowned King & Queen.
Keep your powder dry - it turned a corner and we need to steer the complete course
Republican males voted for Obama to fool Democrats. You saw reporters asking on CNN and MSNBC some Republicans and they said they are waiting to vote against Hillary.

It's not they love Obama, its just they fear Hillary so lets go out and vote for Obama to make him look good.
SC, I'm proud of you!
I find it interesting that Bill plays down Obama's SC win ( "Jesse won here twice") as they played down the importance of Iowa (" New Hampshire has a real election. It ain't fair in Iowa"). It sounds ungrateful to all the people that DID vote and work for her. It almost sounds, dare I say, like they don't accept responsibility for losing: " Well, we didn't like you anyway!"
To the question about Obama advertisement in Florida. It was a NATIONAL advertisement which you can't take away FL for viewers then, & he was targeting all those other caucus that will COUNT. FL will not count for delegates so I don't see where there is a problem with it? I am trying to say this correctly, she is probably just sorry she had not thought of it first. But since I can't read her mind on that issue, I will give her the benefit of the doubt & just go with the facts. FL can't vote in the caucus since they chose to move their date before Feb 5.
D Andrews, I don't think you understand national TV ad buys.  The networks couldn't exclude Florida from getting those ads even if they wanted to.  Get your facts straight!
I feel that this is not a race issue its for the best canadate and hopefully this race issue will end and we will get to the issues..you should be

....Representing  all Americans no matter what the race,or gender  there will always be a few that no matter what they will never change.     If we dont vote change then we will get the same..politcs as usual just differnet faces...So let not put bills face on tv every day.  Hes not running for president.....And all these endorsements that McCains getting means bs..When the troops come home and there no jobs or  Health care for them,or family then something is wrong with this country..Its politcs as usual and the rich get richer while the working class gets poorer.....Change
Bill Clinton may have been the first black president,
but Barack Obama will be nominated to be the second.
yes we can.  thats for all you people on here that say obama cant win in the " racist " south . like i told you before its not 1960 people with good sence way out way the racist. by the way that is realy offensive to me since i live in houston and know lots of white people that obviously have no racist bias what so ever.
I am a life long conservative but I am thrilled with this result.  My greatest hope is that we have an Obama/Romney election come November.  Not because I think Romney will win, but because if that is our choice then we have a real choice.  I think that if either Obama or Romney wins it will greatly help our country.  If it becomes a choice between Clinton or McCain then we are all screwed.  

Some come on Dems, get Obama the nod!  Even us conservatives are rooting for you.  
Wow, what a nerve to say the other campaign is breaking the pledge when your campaign is the only campaign advertising on TV in Florida. While Clinton campaign is perceived as the dirty one, I haven't seen much clean stuff in Obama campaign either.
I always vote for the Conservative candidate, but if it winds up Obama vs. McCain in November, I'll vote for Obama.
By this point, is it not painfully obvious to anyone who's been paying attention that the Clintons are completely moral bankrupt?  Sure, they've been pulling out every dirty, underhanded trick in the book against Obama - because like the sharks they truly are, it's simply in their nature to do so.

But more fundamentally, Bill & Hillary are utterly bereft of vision, inspiration or new ideas for this country.  All they have to offer is more of the same tired old divisive partisan games and dirty tricks.  Enough already!

Congratulations, Barack Obama!  You certainly earned this one...
My fear is the exact opposite, if the democratic party elects Obama, the race card will be played for real not this namby pamby pretend stuff they claim the Clintons, but really its the media who are doing it.  The Obama supporters have really ruined Obama's chances by using the race card, and could have noted to reporters that Bill's comments were not about race but to take advantage of the racial makeup in S.C. they fanned the flames right along with the press, who have been grossly and unfairly condescending about Obama and mean about Hillary.  Now the racial divide will show itself in the super Tues. votes.  Its a shame the press did this.  I am disgusted with MSNBC and all their commentators.  They are all scum.
BREAKING NEWS - I just received word by source in the Obama campaign that Caroline Kennedy will be annoucing her support of Obama in tomorrow's New York Times. I read the info, and let me tell you. It IS powerful. I don't remember her ever endorsing a candidate before this time either. It was a moving piece. Make sure you take a look at the info New York Times tomorrow. I also received a copy of Obama's speech for tonight. All I can say is - yes we can America - all Americans no matter what color or nationality you are - think about it. We were founded on that fact that we were from every where in the world. So yes we can!
Three Cheers for South Carolina!!!

What kind of sportsmanship is that to say you gave someone a real "butt kicking?"  I am stunned by the arrogance of the Obama campaign and it is just getting more and more obvious as the days go by.  Hillary calls right away and offers up a congratulations to Obama by telephone.  When she won in Nevada he didn't offer up a congratulations.  Instead he offered up the "I've got more delegates so I was the one who REALLY won" speech.  And on top of that we have his campaign complaining that Hillary is breaking a pledge in Florida while not having actually done anything to break it, all the while Obama is running TV ads in Florida and saying "Sorry, but they were part of my national ad buy."  I cannot believe the gall to reprimand somebody for something you are doing, but the other person hasn't done!!!  

Obama used to rate up in my top three candidate choices, but the more the campaign goes on the more reasons I find not to be able to support him.  

As for uniting the country, how is that possible when he inspires such "neaner, neaner" behavior out of his supporters.  I have yet to see such hate come out of the mouths of supporters for other candidates.  I don't think he is uniting his own party, let alone the country.  He is ripping it apart and creating hostility.  
It's funny to me that the race card CAN be used.  I'm sure it's not by Obama himself... he's half white.  Why is that fact never pointed out?  Not that it should matter, but let's face it, because it's a simple  fact a person of black origin has never been nominated for President.  Why is that wrong to point out as opposed to a woman who is elected President for the first time?  Doesn't make sence.
Doesn't matter what the media is doing to push Obama I voted for Hillary in az. The media has been so biased in this race that it is disgusting. They have blamed everything On Hillary and given Obama a free pass. If he is the nominee I won't vote for him. They have went after her on a daily basis and very heavy today.
Dear Robert.

Romney is the Republican version of the political hack  with the wind pandering that exemplifies the Clintons.

He is one guy I will never ever vote for.

Anyone but Hilary and Romney.
Someone mentioned the Obama campaign running TV ads in Florida.  To be clear:  Those were *national* ad campaigns, and the Obama campaign had asked the DNC to rule on this issue *before* running the ads.

Obama asked the DNC to rule, and followed that ruling.  Hillary is doing the opposite, pushing to overturn a DNC ruling that she alone would benefit from being overturned.  What a sham!
GREAT JOB SOUTH CAROLINA!!! YOU TOO IOWA!!
CYA IN NOVEMBER!!!

O-BA-MA!! O-BA-MA!!
I can't believe Clinton supporters are saying that Obama isn't playing fairly. He is running a national ad; there wasn't a way to pull the Fl. ad. Clinton is actually compaigning there! And she put her name on the ballot in Michigan, despite making a pledge not to campaign. And then she claims victory when she's the only name on the ballot! And she sent out misrepresentations on Obamas record on abortion, when Planned Parenthood gave him a 100% rating, probably costing him lots of women's votes.

As for race, he won the white vote in Iowa, and he only lost by 3 percentage points in NH, so clearly whites are voting for him. And let's face it, it's a lot harder to get white votes in the South, but he STILL got 25% of the white vote in a 3 way race, against TWO Clintons. And in the South, he may get a few less white votes, but he'll get almost all the black votes, and so he should win throughout a lot of the South.
Americans have been learning the real truth about the CLINTONS over the past couple of months: Hillary is an extreme-left socialist whom while in college worked on the BLACK PANTHERS trial in support of these terrorists! Hillary did grad studies with the Calif. director of the American Communist Party. Billy committed treason during his administration by inviting the Communist Chinese Military into the PENTAGON and Larry Livermore labs. I'm an American Military Vet. and many of my fellow Vets. know all of this to be fact too! The Clintons have many dirty money trails to hide which go back to Communist Red China and HOLLYWEIRD! No red-blooded American man or woman would vote for "these two" treasonous individuals no matter how much charisma they radiate! They are dirty, smell of it and try to hide it. If you have personally shaken either of their hands I strongly suggest you spend the rest of your life trying to wash it off of you!  
Ummm, Hillary didn't win in Nevada.  You may be unaware, but the purpose of these elections is to win delegates.  Obama won more.

Buncha whiners.  Sheesh.
Minda Lillie and Dem08, I don't know what campaign you have been watching but your either your a very ignorant person or you work for the Clinton Campaign. Everyone know's the Clinton's played the race card. They knew all they had to do was make a hint at it and the media would do the rest. Bill Clinton was asked a simple question, after Obama was predicted to be the winner, about Obama running against Him and  his wife and the only answer he could come up with was Jesse Jackson winning twice in the 80's. What kind of answer is that? He is either jumping around the answer like the clinton's usually do or he is throwing the race card out there again. The question had nothing to do with Jesse Jackson or him winning back in the 80's so use your head's!
The cold hard truth is Hillary Clinton can't win the general election because too many Democrats will cross over to vote against her. She is too much like George Bush and the fact that people can't see the similarities is mind boggling! Power hungry, unable to cross party lines, stubborn and unwilling to listen to anyone who doesn't agree with her, polarizing, typical politician who avoids direct answer's to any question and who won't show the American public an ounce of proof of her so-called "experience and judgement" until after the election's, now why is that? So far she has shown that she has absolutely no ability to make good judgement decision's on the 3 biggest votes in the last 4 years. She has gotten very good at blaming everything that doesn't go her way on something or someone else. The first thing a good President has to be able to do is take responsibility for the bad decision's as well as the good. She still will not take responsibility for the Iraq vote or the Iran vote and that is a very good indication of a lack of integrity. All she want's is to be remembered as the first woman president and the power that comes with it. If I were you I would record every one of her speeches from this point forward because if for some strange turn of events that she would win the nomination and the election then that will be the only way you will remember what she said because you won't ever see it happen. What happened to common sense in America? The Clinton's will do and say whatever is necessary to get what they want and this is well known throughout the country. If you think the Rezco garbage is true then wait and see what the Repub's do to Hillary if she win's the nomination. They have endless dirt on her and Bill and Rove will institute a camapign against her like they have never seen. You know and I know she doesn't stand a chance. The only way this country has a chance to change is if we elect someone that has proven that he can cross party lines and bring Washington and this country together. Change is hard for some people, but it is for the greater good.
DesertStorm Vet:

They really brainwashed ya good, eh?  Why would any Democrat cross party lines just to vote against Clinton?  You're saying that they'd rather vote for someone who is on the opposite side of the issues and destroy the party out of spite?
Looks like the anti-Clinton media really convinced you that the 'high and mighty' Obama is some saint compared to Clinton.  He's just another pol like everyone else.  His "Uniter not a Divider" speech is old, tired, and a rerun of a millionm other pols speeches.  
No one on any of these boards has yet to show any substantial policy differences that make him the better choice for Dems.
Axelrod's a bum.  I saw in on TV smearing the Clintons all the way to the bitter end.  He's worse than the Clintons and their counterparts ever were!
ummm you may not be aware, but Hillary, with super delegates, is giving Obama an ass kicking. She has more delegates. After Super Tuesday he is a distant memory. And if Obama pulls out a win somehow, I'll vote for any republican over him and this is coming from a lifelong democrat. I'm tired of the race card..the white people are out to get me card..and he is playing it brilliantly.
“Why no one ever check Hillary's dishonest and arrogant claim that she is ready to be president on day one? No one before her was ready for president on day one.”

This is absolutely true!  Several Presidents out of 43 have made the claim that the presidency is a unique position to hold and NO ONE can be totally prepared to take on this occupation.  As we look into our history of presidents, not even a president that serves two or more consecutive terms is exactly prepared for what may be in store the second term as they were comfortable with operations in their first term.  Thus, I don’t see HOW Hillary is making the allegation that she has “experience” or is prepared to “hit the ground running.”

In addition, where would she have received her “experience?”  Most “first ladys” may start a specialized group or get involved with support groups or minor politics simply because they are NOT a part of the immediate political “ring” of the United States President.  There is NO possible way she could have gained ANY valuable insight to the occupation of the president.

Finally, I can understand if she put her name on the ballot about 6 or 7 years ago when things were nearly the same as when Bill was president but, that was so long ago and if the DID by chance catch a few important conversations in passing, it is FAR out dated!  What good is information from nearly ten years ago in todays presidency?...NOT.

Finally, lets look at her campaign conduct; it isn’t good!  She is reverting back to the old, OLD days of campaigning when one thinks that popularity, fame and money so easily buys our votes.  Well, I think people are valuing their opinions in these current days and are not so easily selling them out to the richest, most popular candidate.  She is taking a “lobbyist” approach to buying out the white house.  This is the type of politics Obama is trying to STOP!  This is the reason why he had the reform done that exposes lobbyist!  So our political system will NO longer be controlled and dictated by this sort of profound system; the exact strategy Hillary is trying to use to swindle the Oval Office!

Way to go America!  Open your eyes and realize it is time for a MAJOR change!  We need to finally be able to gain structure to the entire political system!
“I am a Chicagoan who is very excited about the possibility of having a Democrat elected to the white house.”

To the Chicago resident that wrote this article, it is good to see that you are acknowledging Sen. Obama and realize that the Clintons have gone above and beyond to discredit Barack.  I think your statement is very valuable to the rest of the nation because you are native to Chicago, you speak of sound knowledge of Barack and the situation.

Thank you for shedding light on the situation and I am sure that others will value what you are saying here as I am.  You are helping to set the record straight!

I am from New Hampshire and I know that things did not transpire as honestly as what was led to believe by the media.  There was a lot of manipulating and control tactics along with discrediting which really made me upset and I think the only way to get those to understand that are yet waiting for their state caucus is to inform them of certain negative tactics and try to inspire people to beware of false statements and lies!  I think Barack ran a pretty honest and straight forward campaign in this state; I wish I could say the same for another candidate.  When I realized these wrongful tactics, I immediately considered that if I vote in this candidates favor, I am putting this level of wrongful politics and dishonesty in the White House.  So, I changed my vote!
To: DesertStormVet, IL

First I would like to solute you in all respect to the time you served in Desert Storm.  I have a cousin that served.  That was Bush Sr's little war.  I don't think Vets hear this enough but, Thank you for the time and sacrafice you were/are willing to make to assure the peace, comfort and security of the rest of us.  God bless America!

Also, I absolutely agree with your analysis of Hillary and her likeness to George Bush.  I think America has become so well adjusted to the current Bush adminstration that they are considering voting for Hillary out of simple association.  I don't think they are realizing how similar they truly are!

I truly feel that she doesn't have much geniune concern for the well being of the public.  She may talk this up pretty good but, there just doesn't seem to be much truth about her.  I believe she may get things done but at what cost?  How will this extend the suffering of the American people?  The words are honest but I question the honesty of her character...
I have seen the comments by Caroline in the NYT and am deeply moved. Many of us middle-aged folks remember the past and the dream that was America. If she feels that Obama can be the future of the country, then I am with her. That may sound simplistic to you cynical folks out there, but maybe I'm just tired of being cynical after all these years.
I will vote for Obama in California, I would never vote for Hillary anyways. I kinda like the sound of an Obama/Edwards ticket right now. Smells like fresh air, blowing the crap out of politics.


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