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Chuck Todd, NBC Political Director

Mark Murray, NBC Deputy Political Director

Domenico Montanaro, NBC News Political Reporter



First thoughts: FL showdown, sideshow

Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:28 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** The Florida showdown: The Romney-McCain race in Florida has become almost as entertaining as a Miami-FSU football game (circa '97-'02, of course) -- and about as heated, too. Yesterday, McCain was calling Romney a flip-flopper (ouch), while Romney was returning the fire with McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, and McCain-Lieberman (yikes). And the reason why, as we've mentioned before, is just how much is at stake. A McCain win makes him the undisputed front-runner, with a clear path to the GOP nomination. A Romney win, meanwhile, gives him tons of momentum heading into February 5, although McCain should still do well in several of the delegate-rich states like New York and California. But the bigger effect of a Mitt victory on McCain would be a financial one -- it would make it more difficult for him to raise the cash he needs to stay competitive beyond February 5. Indeed, Romney-McCain has the feel of being one of the closest primaries of this early season … and we all know what happens when Florida has tight contests, right? It’s a winner-take-all, and 57 delegates are at stake. Polls open at 7:00 am ET and close at 7:00 pm ET in most parts of the state; in the panhandle that’s in Central Time, it’s 8:00 am ET and 8:00 pm ET. So there will be no call or even a characterization of the race until 8:00 pm ET.

*** Pluses and minuses: Romney and McCain both have reasons to believe they can win or excuses if they lose. Romney's got the fact this primary is open only to registered Republicans, a group McCain has struggled with in previous primaries. Meanwhile, McCain has veterans and voters over 65 to lean on. But Huckabee may be taking Romney vote, and Rudy may be taking McCain vote. The question is: Which of those two hurt the front-runners more? By the way, don't let folks pass around the myth that the exit polls do not account for the early vote -- that's not true. The consortium thoroughly polls early voters and includes those results in the first wave and adjusts the weighting of that early vote survey as same-day turnout is taken into account.

*** Rudy’s last stand: The GOP candidate who’s trailing a distant third in the polls behind McCain and Romney is the person who staked everything on Florida: Rudy Giuliani. He sure seems to be acting like a guy trying to go out with grace. The autographed baseballs for the traveling press were a nice touch but also a HUGE hint. And as NBC’s John Yang, who is following Giuliani, put it yesterday: There is a real feeling of valedictory on this trip, like a final senior class trip or the bus ride home from summer camp. Reporters posing for pictures with aides, the baseballs on each seat, and so on. The question, short term, is what does Rudy do tomorrow? Dropping out seems likely but does he endorse? Politico's Jonathan Martin has a theory that Giuliani will quickly endorse McCain (i.e., pre-February 5) so that Rudy can bask in the glow a bit in McCain's likely Tsunami Tuesday victories in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut. Not a bad theory, no?

*** The Florida sideshow: While everything is on the line in Florida's GOP primary, that's certainly not the case on the Dem side, given that the DNC stripped Florida of all of its delegates for moving up its primary before February. In turn, it has become nothing more than a beauty contest. But that hasn't stopped the Clinton campaign -- and some pundits as well -- from trying to make it count, even though the Democratic candidates all pledged not to campaign in the state. In fact, Clinton holds a victory rally of sorts tonight in Davie, FL. But the Obama folks seem to have a point: If the nomination is about winning the most delegates, as the Clinton campaign says, then Florida shouldn't count, right? To put it another way, as we've said before, if you’re heading to the playoffs, you can't suddenly say that some exhibition game now matters. The other issue for Clinton is that she's running against herself, and anything short of a big win could backfire. All this said, what will the average viewer tonight take away? A Clinton win in the most famous swing state in the country? Will the average viewer even care that the DNC penalized the state on the delegate front and that no one campaigned there? This is what the Clinton campaign is counting on.

*** SOTU thoughts: Watching last night’s State of the Union, anyone else get the sense that President Bush was just glad to be done? He had the smirk going for about half the speech, and then came the Iraq portion when the smirk did go away and he made what seemed like a very familiar argument about Iraq and foreign policy. The problem for Bush, of course, is just that: The argument is familiar, and it's unclear whether he has anyone listening to him anymore. As for how the presidentials handled the SOTU, a few things: 1) Mitt Romney seemed hesitant to pin the "broken Washington" tag on Bush when given the chance; 2) Obama's apparent snub of Clinton in the Senate chamber wasn't missed by many (just how bitter is this race?); 3) speaking of Obama, we're guessing the video response he provided a good platform for his supporters to watch and then, well, contribute (by the way, will video SOTU responses be the norm in a few years?); 4) did anyone notice how short McCain's press release response was? Did he really only send out a release praising Bush's earmark comments and that's it? 5) Why did Clinton cancel the rest of her TV interviews last night after her chat with NBC's Brian Williams? Unclear, but she’ll be doing the full cable radio today. Finally, isn't it amazing that Obama-Kennedy stepped on the State of the Union? That's something… says a lot about the presidential race and the sitting president.

*** Buckeye Bill: How much should we read into the decision to send Bill Clinton to Ohio today? Ohio is not a February 5 primary state, but a March 4 one. If February 5 doesn't decide anything (and neither campaign seems to think it will), then the next BIG day is March 4 -- especially for the Clinton campaign, since the primaries and caucuses taking place between Tsunami Tuesday and March 4 are all in states that may favor Obama. Anyway, it's striking to see Bill's schedule already include Ohio, though we're guessing it's a two-fer stop (fundraising in private and a public even tacked on to start prepping post-Feb. 5). And by the way, the Clinton camp is prepping a major endorsement, likely Feb. 5-related; there aren't many big February 5 gets left, so think major members of Congress and governors.

*** On the trail: On the GOP side, Giuliani gives it a final push in Miami, Pompano Beach, Delray Beach, and Orlando; Huckabee holds two events in Tampa and then it’s off to three stops in the February 5 state of Missouri; McCain makes four stops in Florida, including Miami, St. Petersburg, and a fundraiser; and Romney makes two stops -- in Tampa and St. Petersburg. On the Dem side, as mentioned earlier, Clinton holds a rally in Davie, FL; Edwards is in Oklahoma, Missouri, and Minnesota; Obama campaigns in Kansas and Missouri; and Bill Clinton, in addition to his event in Ohio, stumps for his wife in New Jersey.

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Did anyone listen to Bush's speech?  I'm done with his lies and glad that his administration will be over in less than a year.  It is going to take a very long time to recover from what he has done to this nation. Wouldn't you hate to be the guy that had to tutor Bush to give any speech?
With respect to voting next week in Massachusetts:

IF the New England Patriots win the Super Bowl this Sunday, their parade is scheduled to take place in Boston next Tuesday, primary day. No other choice. The team wouldn’t be back from Arizona in time for a parade on Monday and on Wednesday many of the players have to head to Hawaii for the pro bowl. So Tuesday it is.  

I would imagine this can't be good for any of the candidates, especially Barack Obama.

YOU FOOLS, Ted Kennedy = Status quo. He's the one who calls the shots in the DEM party. He's NOT saying to Barack "Atta boy", he's saying "I CAN get you the nomination QUICKLY, I.E the SUPERDELEGATES" in exchange for your administration, IT'S ALL BUSSINESS AS USUAL, IT'S THE OLD QUID PRO QUO. You just SOLD your (POLITICAL) soul to the devil. Now, the party OWNS you, Barack, and you OWE them. YOU could've change, once and for all, the (WASHINGTON'S) rules but I guess you were better than that. What a shame, what a shame....INDEED.
JOE SCARBORO HATES JON MACAIN AND HILLIARY ITS AS PLAIN AS THE NOES ON HIS FACE.
the major endorsement for Hillary will be Sen.Joe Biden...

You heard it hear first...
I can't help you on a response to President Bush's State of the Union speech - I watched it - with the mute button on the entire time.

I just sat and stared at Dick Cheney the entire night. What an evil, arrogant man. Good riddance to all of them.

Barack Obama/Jim Webb 2008.
Florida DOES count – it’s the biggest state so far to vote and its demographics are a lot closer to the major February 5th states than South Carolina.

If Hillary performs well amongst women, seniors and Latinos, that will bode very well for her in many of the upcoming February 5th states.

And Obama’s snub of Hillary at the State of the Union last night – gee, that was really presidential.  Can you imagine the press (especially Chris Matthews and the MSNBC crew) if it had been Hillary that snubbed Obama?  


The little man stands beside Oprah and Teddy and let them talk for him. Give us all a break. He will not win, but if he did...who is going to stand by his side and hold him up while he learns how to be a president? We will never know because the GOP would have a field day with him.
If the nation wants change from Washington's quid quo pro it will be Obama and Romney. They really are the freshest meat at the market.  However, if you are a namebrand...happy with what we have...kinda shopper McCain and Hillary will be interesting to choose from.  Mix match these senerios and I see a democatic victory no questions asked.
Go Hillary!!! FL wants you.
TODD.
Are you paid agents of the Obama campaign.You ae suppose to take a neutral stand rather than making nasty comments about Hillary & Bill. It is sad that you have lost many fans because of this unjustified personal attacks.
From MSNBC last night:

Ted Kennedy:
"Barack Obama has opposed the Iraq war from the
beginning.
Son't let anybody tell you different with the POLITICS
OF DECEPTION"

Gee, I wonder WHO HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ?
WHO practices the POLITICS OF DECEPTION ?

Ted Kennedy:
"This man is ready to be President"

Hmmmmmmm ?
Who is he disagreeing with ?

According to Tim Russert: Today was a warning shot
from Ted Kennedy

Thank you, TED KENNEDY !!

Gee, Billary....
Maybe your LIES are gonna be EXPOSED !

The Clintons "fairy tail" win in Flordia is only as good as their win in Michigan.  The media should cover it like any rally and point out the truth.  If they turn it into a "win" then the media shows lack of balance.
How is McCain able to dodge his past his stance on immigration, finance reform, and his edgey grandpa like anger?  If McCain does pull this off it is because of his millitary experience!  Everyting else he has going for him is well removed from conservitism and gets more traction as an independant or moderate.  I like McCain, but I am tried of our wars and big brother foreign policy that is bank rupting our country.  America's power has always been its consuming economy...but left unchecked, America will fall to rising debt, outsorcing, and high dollar government spending.  By the way you can't fight a war without money.  
Does anyone think that the coverage by MSNBC is not biased.  You have the hosts constantly cutting up Hillary and Bill Clinton and swooning over Obama.  It's getting rediculous.  Why can't we just get straight news.
MSNBC, Howard Fineman:

Hillary Clinton was nowhere to be seen
(was she in hiding ?)

Obama and Ted Kennedy stood together
They seemed to be the 'center of the Democratic Party'

It was Katherine Sibelius wo gave the Democratic
response
And Gov. Sibelius will endorse Obama today
There seems to be a flurry of endorsements for Obama
Where are Hillary's Senatorial endorsements ?
What Senators are endorsing Hillary ?

Watch for more endorsements in the next 8 days
They WON'T BE for Hillary

Why was Hillary hiding last night ?
Why did she slink off ?
Was she embarrassed ?
Why ?
Is her 'career of evil' ending ?
Is her 'campaign of evil' unraveling ?
Where was Bill ?
With another woman ?
Engaged in a romantic tryst ?

the 'Center of the Democratic Party'
The torch has been PASSED !

OBAMA '08

First, don't insult the FSU-Miami rivalry. I'm still stinging from the post-college fall of Charlie Ward. Is he still playing basketball? Second, The back-and-forth reveals more than just where these guys are on policies, it reveals how they see themselves and others. McCain has bought into the St John image and thinks his value is in his ability to ignore the public and facts in order to stubbornly stick to his preconceptions (remember, that's a strength in his view). Romney is much more able to read the public and reponds to what the people are looking for (remember, McCain thinks that's a fault). Romney is insulting McCain by simplifying policy stances, McCain is insulting Romney by saying he lacks character. Actually, McCain could easily hit Mitt on policy stuff and Romney could very easily hit McCain on character stuff, but they both choose their attacks based on their own world view. Personally, I'd rather have a competent manager who knows policy than a stubborn old goat, but that's just me.
Obama never would have done well in Florida to begin with! He knows it- everybody knows it! He is lucky that he at least has an excuse; however, he will lose by 20 points and Hillary will get more people voting for her in Florida than Obama has had in South Carolina,New Hamphire and Michigan- COMBINED. We will never know the numbers from Iowa as they dont record individual votes- which is absurd.

If McCain wins- it's over for Romney on Feb 5. If Hillary wins 4 of the 5 largest states on Super Tuesday- even though Obama will continue- nobody has ever won a nomination who lost New York and California.
Sen. McCain: "The Issue Of Economics Is Not Something I've Understood As Well As I Should." "Like Mike Huckabee, who joked recently that he 'may not be the expert that some people are on foreign policy, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night,' McCain suggested to reporters Monday that American consumer culture offered a short cut to expertise. 'The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should,' McCain said. 'I've got Greenspan's book.'" (Sasha Issenberg, "McCain: It's About The Economy," The Boston Globe, http://www.boston.com/, Posted 12/18/07)

- Sen. McCain: "I Still Need To Be Educated." "On a broader range of economic issues, though, Mr. McCain readily departs from Reaganomics. His philosophy is best described as a work in progress. He is refreshingly blunt when he tells me: 'I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.'" (Stephen Moore, "Reform, Reform, Reform," OpinionJournal.com, 11/26/05)

are you extremely happy now Chris and company?  Now, I can feel why those women sent you that memo.  You are so anti-hillary..and anything, big or small news against her...you really try to make the biggest deal to negative her..I am an unaffiliated voter..but will be going for Hillary.
are you extremely happy now Chris and company?  Now, I can feel why those women sent you that memo.  You are so anti-hillary..and anything, big or small news against her...you really try to make the biggest deal to negative her..I am an unaffiliated voter..but will be going for Hillary.
McCain in many ways looks and tastes like a McDonald's McMuffin; packaged nice, really really good looks and amazing taste...but, unfortunately for McCain and McDonalds they will never be able to hide the unhealthy reality under all that great taste.

Just break down McCain’s not so healthy ingredients...

1.Grilled George W. Bush's tax cuts on both sides… in 2001 and 2003

2. joined 14 eggheads to make the gang of 14 that sought to find compromise on judicial appointments.

3.Muffen'd up Senate opposition to Bush administration policies on detainee interrogation

4.soft as butter on illegal immigration.

5.supported that cheesy campaign finance reform bill.
Why doesn’t Maverick McCain stand as he is…an independent?  He really is a different species than the Republican Party of today.
It's increasingly clear that Hillary will do and say anything to win. She agreed, along with the other candidates, to not allow FL to send delegates to the convention. She loses SC by a stunning 28% and now she changes her mind.
RE: Obama snubbing Clinton -- Yes it is a bitter race. That is a function not only of the two campaigns, but also expectations about politics after the past eight years. You cannot expect any discourse about race and gender to be civilized in a country that has relied on "Country vs. Enemy" binaries for the past eight years.  

There is also a real added element of a feeling of desperation in the country, that I cannot possibly evaluate objectively, but I am seeing symptoms of.

I hope there is some enterprising journalist who is collecting the real "behind the scenes" stories of the campaigns. There are a million classical narratives at play here. It would be a real shame to not hear about this a few years down the line. I am available as a freelance research assistant if necessary. Get in Touch! =)

Nerdy tangent - Can you imagine what Al Gore's inbox or voicemail is like right now? The pressure must be really huge on him now. I do not envy his personal assistant(s).
. Finally, isn't it amazing that Obama-Kennedy stepped on the State of the Union?...'

Obama and Kennedyu WERE the center of attention
See how Hillary tried to sidle up to them ?
WHAT did she say to Ted ?
'I promise to stop 'race baiting' ?

What a blow to Billary's campaign to have Ted Jennedy say that Obama 'IS PREPARED FOR THE PRESIDENCY' !!

The race is tightening...
And OBAMA HAS THE MOMENTUM !!
Rudy fans in Florida, I respect you BUT RUDY HAS NO CHANCE TODAY. Please help defeat McCain by voting for Mitt Romney. I beg you.
IM AGAINST THE WAR I JUST FUND IT THATS RICH.BRING THE TROOPS HOME BARACK" IM A LIAR" OBAMA.IF HES AGAINST IT VOTE THAT WAY CHICKEN ,REALITY WHAT WHAT KEEPS HIM VOTING FOR WAR FUNDING??????????SEIARRIA maybe you can tell all of us why he voted for funding but is against the war maybe lip service to fools who think its easy.
"Florida DOES count – it’s the biggest state so far to vote and its demographics are a lot closer to the major February 5th states than South Carolina.

If Hillary performs well amongst women, seniors and Latinos, that will bode very well for her in many of the upcoming February 5th states.

MSNBClovesObama, IL"

Whoever you are, if you follow politics at all, you should realize by now that FLORIDA as a state, as a populace, and certainly as a swing state in the general election does indeed matter. What doesn't matter AT ALL is the Democratic primary in Florida, which not only awards zero delegates towards the nomination, but which is uncontested (as all Dem candidates pledged) by Obama or Edwards.

So what will it mean if Hillary wins Florida tonight? That she can beat Mike Gravel. Congratulations, Senator.
I just found it strange that Obama talks about being the unifier in all his speeches but he obviously turned his back on Hillary last night! He has done it time and time again. There is something that bothers me about a person who cannot shake things off. Is it immaturity? Is it naiveity? This is the bid league. Obama cannot expect to get a free ride into the White House. If he is a true unifier he needs to show a willingness to put things behind him. He seems incapable of doing that and it bothers me. He has a vindictive edge to him that is unnerving. For someone who gives such eloquent and inspirational speeches I am surprised at what I see when I peel away the smoke screen. Could it be that his speeches are all he has? The country cannot  be  run on inspirational speeches. At some point Obama will have to show us what can do! We don't have the time for someone to learn on the job right now. The country is in peril and the world is in chaos! We really need someone capable to be the leader of the free world. Not someone who is petty and childish. At this moment it is crystal clear that Hillary is that woman!
Some Floridians are acting just like the petulant children that the Clintons have shown themselves to be.  Wah, wah, wah.  We know we broke the rules but we're Florida.  Why are you trying to disenfranchise us?  GET OVER IT.  Play by the rules and everyone will be happy to count the votes.  Americans love Florida but hate whiners.
you three do pretty good analysis.  thanks.
First Read:
How about picking up on the news of NOW-NY's anti-Kennedy endorsement last night?  They really torched him.  Shows not all women are bowing down to the Kennedy legacy.
So many people are so wrapped up in this Obama wave. So he had a good primary in two states ... there are still many states to go. Unfortuantely for Obama the states that are most populated and most ethnically diverse (California and NY) are supporting Clinton in a big way. Last nights behavior by Obama was childish at best. He needs to get over himself. He's not the president yet.  I see his ego is expanding by the minute. I knew he was no different than any other politician.  
From First Read:

'...The New York Times’ David Brooks writes, "Last week there was the widespread revulsion at the Clintons’ toxic attempts to ghettoize Barack Obama. In private and occasionally in public, leading Democrats lost patience with the hyperpartisan style of politics -- the distortion of facts, the demonizing of foes, the secret admiration for brass-knuckle brawling and the ever-present assumption that it’s necessary to pollute the public sphere to win. All the suppressed suspicions of Clintonian narcissism came back to the fore. Are these people really serving the larger cause of the Democratic Party, or are they using the party as a vehicle for themselves?"...'


Do we want 4 years of THIS ?
Is THIS what the Democratic party STANDS FOR ?

'...the widespread revulsion at the Clintons’ toxic attempts to ghettoize Barack Obama...'

Billary, cold, calculating, dishonest, unethical, divisive, TOXIC
Hillary Clinton and her supporters are absolute pond scum. The way the Clinton's behave now gives you a good indication of how they would behave as our rulers (and that is exactly how they envision themselves). These two egomaniacs will lower themselves to any level to win. Case in point is the Florida campaigning that they promised not to do. What, the Clinton's breaking a promise? Say it ain't so! Any one that supports these two whack jobs should get their head examined.
Your own Joe Scarborough (definitely far from a Hillary fan) said he would do the same thing she was doing ing Florida if it were him running. It's a very intelligent thing to do. Also, it's not a certainty that those votes won't count and those delegates won't be seated.  Many experts now agree that they likely WILL be seated as the DNC doesn't want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of Florida voters.  I know you like to turn every post anti-Hillary, first read, but you should listen to Joe on those rare ocassions he's truly impartial before you critisize.
Ironically, Charles Waddi,Lawrenceville, Georgia, in doing as you say Todd has also gained many fans.
Who do you predict will win the Florida Republican Presidential Primary?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1645


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Obama never campaigned in Florida.  He followed the rules.  In every state Obama actively campaigns in, his numbers shoot from 20+ under Clinton to either tied or ahead.  Iowa, he was down 15, ended up 8.  NH, he was down 20, ended up only down 2.  Nevada, he was down as much as 30, and ended up only down 8.  South Carolina, he was down 20, and ended up 28.

Name recognition plays a huge part in voting.  If people don't know who you are, they tend not to vote for you.  If there is a name listed they've seen for twenty years, they tend to pick it cause they don't know any better.

<shrugs>

I think the exhibition match analogy is good, but it's even more comparable to suggest that one team isn't even showing up.  How can you claim victory during a vote that doesn't even count when the other team doesn't participate?
Regarding the Clinton Side Show (very applicable) I think their whole political strategy is to bank on the apathy and stupidity of the electorate.

People who don't care that she agrees to the rules then decides to break them if it suits her. People who don't care that her entire campaign is based on distortion and lies. Who don't care that her administration will be as secretive and partisan as the Bush administration is. Who are easily manipulated by the Clinton's hurtful attempts to pit ethnic groups against each other and fall dutifully in line to vote according to race or gender.

These people need to open their eyes and see that it's all a game to the Clintons and the real prize is power, serving the country is an afterthought.
Charles Waddi in GA,
Why is it that whenever someone criticizes the Clintons, certain of their fans start throwing temper-tantrums?  Some of the people who you say are no longer "fans" of Chuck are acting like petulant spoiled brats who just want to have everything your way.  I have yet to see any "slanted" coverage or "biased" coverage from this team but it seems typical of a certain section of the Democratic Party that any time someone dares to raise a point, they start whining.

Same group probably that's cheering NOW-NY's press release last night castigating Ted Kennedy for DARING to support someone other than a woman.
The SOTU was a snooze fest, the worst ever. Obama was sitting there as if he were already elected, ironically near all of the washington elite, the very same he claims he is not a part of.  Very strange. and was Hillary sitting near Joe Biden?
Sierra,
have you had your milk today? you should, otherwise you'll never turn 18!
to: Domenico Montanaro,
In all fairness, you should also mention the following: Chicago grassroot support for Obama operating in Floriday, two (!) fundraisers by Obama in Florida, NATIONAL ADDS running in Fl. An no, SC Democratic party has no say in whether Barack can run adds in Florida. He signed the pledge, he should stick to it. Barack is on the Florida ballots as well, i just voted. So don't tell me that my vote does not count! It's a democracy after all!

Sierra,
have you had your milk today? you should, otherwise you'll never turn 18!
to: Domenico Montanaro,
In all fairness, you should also mention the following: Chicago grassroot support for Obama operating in Floriday, two (!) fundraisers by Obama in Florida, NATIONAL ADDS running in Fl. An no, SC Democratic party has no say in whether Barack can run adds in Florida. He signed the pledge, he should stick to it. Barack is on the Florida ballots as well, i just voted. So don't tell me that my vote does not count! It's a democracy after all!

Hillary CANCELS all tv interviews.. going into your supersecret mode there Hitlery?
So Obama is going to unite the country but can't bring himself to shake the hand of his Democratic rival?  He's going to sit down unconditionally with Syria, Iran, North Korea etc but he pettily turns away from a rival in his own party?  

A picture tells a thousand words.

Who are you guys kidding?  

And imagine if the positions had been reversed what the headlines would be "Hillary snubs Barack: Clinton shows disrespect for saintly rival!!!"

Last Thought:  Was Chris Mathews being racist when he said that Condaleeza Rice would make a great VP if Obama did not get the nomination?  He seemed be implying that blacks would be disgruntled with the democrats to such an extent that they would vote for Rice because she is black.  Is this not the same reasoning that he was accusing Bill Clinton of promoting?
Senator Clinton is going to Florida for the same reason she kept her name on the (in-violation of Democratic Party Rules) Michigan Primary Ballot.  It opens the door for a move in the Democratic Convention's Rules Committee to grant delegates to both states.

Convention committee membership is nearly always drawn from Party insiders, and can rewrite any rules that have been previously put in place.  If the Rules Committee were to allow Michigan and Florida delegations, it would be the Convention Credentials committee that would decide exactly who gets to represent those states when it comes time to elect the nominee
From the Arizona Daily Star:

'...Rep. Grijalva switches to Obama from Edwards
By PAUL DAVENPORT
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

PHOENIX — Democratic U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona is endorsing Barack Obama after earlier backing John Edwards in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Grijalva cited Obama's electability and his intention to "fundamentally change the rules of the game" in Washington, according to a statement obtained by The Associated Press in advance of a planned Tuesday conference call with reporters.
The third-term congressman, whose southern Arizona district includes Yuma and parts of Tucson, is the second prominent Arizona Democrat to endorse Obama in the immediate run-up to the state's Feb. 5 presidential primary.
Gov. Janet Napolitano endorsed Obama on Jan. 11 after being courted by Obama and rival Hillary Rodham Clinton. Since then, Napolitano has campaigned for Obama in Arizona, Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico.
Clinton has led Obama and Edwards in the first of two recent polls but the margin between Clinton and Obama decreased in the second.
Grijalva had endorsed Edwards on May 3, saying the former senator from North Carolina "has shown principled leadership on the way in Iraq and on economic opportunity in America."
In the statement explaining his switch to Obama, Grijalva said it "was not a repudiation of Senator Edwards, rather the understanding that Senator Barack Obama is the future."
"The best opportunity to win in November rests with Senator Obama," Grijalva added. "I am proud to support Senator Obama as we move forward toward the nomination. This election is not merely about moving the pieces around in Washington D.C., but to fundamentally change the rules of the game. I am proud to help Senator Obama work toward that change."...'


Who's endorsing you, Billary ?


HRC greets Ted Kennedy at State of the Union

David Axelrod, on MSNBC, offers an alternate explanation for that awkward moment on the floor:
I don't think he snubbed her at all. First of all, they acknowledged each other as they entered the chamber. But I think he knew that Senator Kennedy and Senator Clinton were friends. This was obviously an awkward day from that standpoint, and I don't think he wanted to stand there while Senator Kennedy was greeting Senator Clinton. And I think that was an appropriate sentiment. Unfortunately, the camera caught it in a different way, and so it got interpreted that way. And that's the kind of environment we're in right now. It's a very competitive race, so every little thing is going to be interpreted in that way. But it was really a matter of letting Senator Kennedy have his own conversation, his own greeting with Senator Clinton without him hovering over them.


http://markhalperin.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/kennedyclintonsh260.jpg
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2008/01/29/GA2008012900106.html?hpid=artslot


ps..Whose hand did she try to shake. yes, Ted Kennedy. BTW, they(HRC & Barack) greeted each other earlier. Is this a slow news day.
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According to the NYtimes, on the day that Obama opened his explortory committee to run for president, he actually extended his arm to shake hillary's hand and she didn't shake it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/us/politics/07rivals.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin


ps...Frankly, after her surrogates(husband/shaheen/bobkerrey/bobjohnson/andrewcuomo)rangel/supporters caught sending smear-mailers in Iowa /supporters lying about his stance on choice to NH voters/etc)called him every demeaning name in the book, I would not want to breathe the same air as her. I know Barack has been more gracious to her than I would have been.
Sierra, SF:

Chill woman.  I'm a Barack supporter.  Many of your posts raise important points but the HRC fans on this board are blind and don't want to hear the truth.  All they're looking for is bulletin board material.   Similar to a professional football team, they look for anything the opposition says that they can put on their bulletin board that will fire up the team.

Get out and make some calls for the cause!!


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