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Hillary declares victory

Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:59 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones and NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
DAVIE, FL -- Hillary Clinton landed about half an hour after the polls closed in the delegate-free zone of Florida tonight, and in a six-minute speech declared her win here a "tremendous victory."

With 73% of the precincts reporting, Clinton leads Obama 50%-33%, with Edwards in third with 15%.
 
Tonight in South Florida, she challenged the rules of the game -- the delegate game, that is. Despite the fact the Democratic National Committee punished Florida (along with Michigan) for moving its primary up by stripping the state of all of its delegates, the Clinton camp has been arguing for days that the people of Florida must be heard. The New York senator made the same argument here.
 
"Thank you, Florida Democrats. You know, I could not come here to ask in person for your votes," Clinton told a noisy audience that filled a ballroom here and at times shrieked with excitement. "But I am here to thank you for your votes today. This has been a record turnout because Floridians wanted their voices to be heard on the great issues that affect our country and the world. I am thrilled to have had this vote of confidence that you have given me today, and I promise you I will do everything I can to make sure not only are Florida's Democratic delegates seated, but Florida is in the winning column for the Democrats in 2008."

Rep. Alcee Hastings (D) echoed this sentiments earlier in the evening. "Someone said that our vote doesn't count. Our votes counted in 2000; our votes counted in 2004. They counted yesterday, today, and they will count in November when we elect Hillary Clinton President of the United States."
 
Not so fast, say rivals. The Obama camp was already pushing back earlier today, with supporter John Kerry headlining a conference call to tell reporters that because Florida was not offering any delegates, "It should not become a spin race. It should not become a fabricated race."
 
The Clinton camp had scheduled an afternoon conference call to discuss seating the Florida and Michigan delegates, but postponed it until further notice.
 
Even so, the speakers at Clinton's brief rally tonight were on message, talking about the importance of Florida as a swing state and about how many people came out to vote in the primary.
 
Florida Sen. Bill Nelson used the opportunity to announce his endorsement of Clinton. "So goes Florida, so goes the nation," Nelson said to wild cheers and applause. "The pundits who say that Florida doesn't count cannot ignore 2.5 million Florida Democrats that have voted today and given an overwhelming victory to Sen. Clinton. It is my privilege as a part of the Nelson family that have been personal friends of the Clintons for two decades. Our children know each other. It's my pleasure at the first opportunity that I had because of the pledge to come forth and say I endorse Hillary Clinton."
 
Miami Mayor Manny Diaz also said Florida will count. "Listen, America. Listen to the voice of Florida, because we have spoken loud and we have spoken clear for the next president of the United States of America, Hillary Clinton."
 
Clinton promised her supporters she will go on from tonight to win on Super Tuesday. "Stay with us because starting tomorrow we're going to sweep through the states across our country on to February 5th!," she said. "And, we will together, not only take back the White House, but take back our country!"
 
But the question as Clinton heads to Little Rock, AR tonight is how big of a deal Clinton's rivals will make over what some see as an attempt to change the rules of the game after it has begun.

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Just for the record-all the candidates pledged only one thing--not to campaign in Florida.  Only Obama ran commercials there as part of a national cable buy.  Neither Edwards or Clinton did.  No other promise was made by the candidates.  
John Edwards is right, there are 2 Americas!  

One for Billary and one for the rest of us!
Thanks Hilldo, for giving me another reason to give money I dont have to the OBAMA campaign.
The Clintons are to laugh at.
This is lunacy.  Obama allegedly "snuffs" Hillary at the SOTU and he's a pariah.  Hillary _signs a pledge_ abiding by DNC rules that Michigan and Florida don't count, and then flagrantly violates that pledge in front of the entire nation.  We're supposed to reward her for gaming the system?  We're supposed to see that as a good quality in a president?  Hello, where have you people been for the last 7 years???

Howard Dean needs to get his party in order before Hillary forces every moderate and independent over to John McCain's side.

The Democrats' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory is becoming uncanny.
msnbc has the worst coverage ever ...it was like a Obama campaign team ...talking about how great Obama is ....I think there is going to be MSNBC backlash...unfortunately helping Hillary
is the lady that desperate?
university park, md (Sent Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:19 PM)

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Yes she is and so are her supporters....They are about as pathetic as she is...
I still can't figure out what rule Hillary broke. With the south carolina win and Kennedy endorsement dominating the news all day yesterday, one would expect that would move a lot of votes!  NBC is turning into 'National Barackting Company' The feeding frenzy is maddening to say the least.
As a Democratic woman who has already voted for Hillary, I owe the entire Democratic party an apology.  I cast my absentee ballot last week, but had I known Hillary would try and break the rules of the DNC, I would never have voted for her.  

I am a democrat before anything and support my part over any candidate, including the clintons.  I am ashamed that hillary is trying to change the rules for her own benefit.  This is a tragedy for the party and the rules designated by OUR party.  

Please, just one Hillary supporter, change your vote to Obama or Edwards for me as it would ease my conscience.  
Rob in CA,

Hillary Clinton actually approached Edwards about making that back room deal and he turned her down.  He subsequently approached Obama and he [Obama] turned him down.

I guess Obama isn't that type of politician after all.
I think it interesting how Hilary supporters also tried to change the rules in Nevada when the race was tightening up in the weeks before the caucus.
Also exit polling is showing that early voters went for Hilary and late deciders were split pretty evenly...which shows that momentum is moving Obama's way.
Way to go Travis. I am disgusted at all the faces of MSNBC and their eagerness to annoint Obama.  
Rob in CA --> Char Gallager... are YOU nuts???  Hillary did NOT run unopposed in FL

Rob, if it takes you more then two sentences to explain how Hillary "won" Florida, you're spinning. By the looks of things, you're up to a fairly good size essay.
Barack's campaign, just made a LIAR outta Billary again, with her own word's from before Iowa.
With 83% of the Florida vote in, Hillary won by almost 300,000 votes.... 300,000 ????
I think is is very clear that she will be the democratic nominee come Super Tuesday....
Obama supporters are not very gracious when their chosen one gets his butt kicked...
this is perhaps the most contrived and biggest joke in american political history.
I was an undecided democrat, until tonight! Hilliary seems mentally unstable! Will someone please ask her what she won?!? She is totally delusional! Well, I can cross one out of the three off of the list.
...her supporters were heard to be chanting "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!"

Billary is off her rockers!  Will she not stop, say, and do anything to win.  You cannot change the rules in the middle of the game.  And for the DNC to even consider such a thing is crazy.  If she had lost Florida, then she'd be the won saying it was nothing but a beauty contest.  You Clinton supporters can love her all you want, you know that her push to seat these delegates mid-game is nuts.  If things were going her way, she would care less about Michigan or Florida.  Wake up people.  We do not need another theif in the night as president.
OMG, how is Senator Obama going to explain this

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid353515028/bctid1396506113

This is unbelievable.  I am in tears
BFD....Hillary won? What did she win? A headline....another opportunity to change the rules, oh yeah, We are the Clintons, we don't need no stinking rules!  What does anyone see in these people? Hillary is manipulative and will say whatever to whomever; Bill is a liar and a cheater.  If Hillary is the Dem candidate; McCain will be the next president.  Way to go Dems!!
A page from the G. Bush play book. If Bush and steal Florida and get away with it on a technicality then why can't Clinton.  They are one in the same. One just wears Red and the other Blue.  Yet this is the kind of President that many in our Country wants.  

Barak is certainly no saint, we have a right hold our praise until we have seen results, but if you want to talk about a leadership that worries me, Clintons worries me deeply.   I was a strong believer in Hillary Clinton.  I began to loose faith when she decided not to run in 2004, that wss the time that we needed her the most and she decided to give G.Bush another pass.  She, like on so many other times, used her calculated judgment and missed her moment and it cost the country.  She did it with Irag and Iran and she has miscalculated and made poor judment calls at least 4 times within her campaign.  Let's face it she is a follower and she is riding the credibility and of Husband.  

Like Bush, she feels that we owe her.  

HRC has a lot of loyal friends but let's face it, she has terrible, terrible judgement.

 
Does Hillary remind anyone else of Omarosa from The Apprentice?
Clearly the people of Florida have spoken and their voices have chosen Hillary Clinton as the nominee for the Democratic party.

Barack rhetoric about UNIFYING I guess only counts when it gets him votes...but not when it comes to hearing the voices of the people of Florida or Michigan.

Barack...uniter...what a joke! Florida was the beginning of the end for Barack Hussein Obama.

Hillary '08 and beyond....!


Clinton did not brake any rules. If the delegates get seated, it will only be after the nomonie is selected. Some of these anti Hillary coments are really ignorent. Hillary recieved 200,000 more votes than McCain, the republican winner in Florida. Both McCain and Romney got more votes than Obama. Hillary did not campaign. Obama was running T.V. ads, which is a clear violation of the rules. Please stop the nonsense, Clinton Haters. The Clintons are winners. It is time to rally around them. Lets get rid of the political loosers of the past (Kennedy, Kerry, Daschell, and now Obama). The old democratic establishment who couldn't win a presedential election until the Clintons came along. Despite the unfair coverage of the media beating the Clintons to a pulp, they will still prevail.

P.S. You Clinton haters should quit being so emotional. I guess this is why you want Obama, all emotion and no substance or record to fall back on. Think with your brain not your ignorents.
Voters of Michigan and Florida,

You got shafted, it is true. You have your State Democratic Parties to blame. Take your issues up with them.


Agreed Travis.  The website as well as on TV.  So much bias and disdain for HRC.  At least pretend to be an impartial journalist.  Thanks.
Hillary received more votes than the republican "winner" John McCain.  Very impressive.....
"The simple fact is that hillary won and they lost.  this is different from michigan because all three were on the ballot.  This is a touching subject and i would advise Obama not to continue to say that florida did not count, because in that statement he is disenfranchising floridian"


What did she win???? In this particular instance Florida didn't count!!! If it had Hillary would have added some delegates.
                     Thank you Jeff freeman

Dear DNC as a lifelong democrat and from a family that has voted democratic since 1930, I am deeply disturbed , angry ,shaken at the arrogance of the dnc to disenfranchise my vote and the vote of my entire family both here in Michigan and in Florida . This does not represent democratic principles. Our founding fathers gave their lives for and founded this nation to escape this very tyranny that you are imposing on us please abandon this course of action soon before irreparable harm is done to both the party and our nation
MSNBC is a Clinton hater and Obama LICKING station. Their reports have been biased towards Obama. Jeezzz.
And I thought Fox Network was anti-Clinton.
First comes agreeing not campaign in MI and FLD.

Second comes keeping your name on the ballots in MI and FLD. It's just an oversight, nothing really.

Third comes doing just "a little" campaigning in the two states.

Fourth comes winning the states, even though your name was the only one on the ballot in one, and only you showed up in the second state to campaign.

Fifth comes the screaming, whining, and pouting that you should have the delegates.

This is Hillary's and Bill's definition of "fair".
All of you that favor Senator Obama please consider this.  I believe the last president of this nation was elected because he was going to be the great uniter.  He was a Washington outsider that was going to unite the Democrats and the Republicans and change the way business is done in Washington.  Today we have the highest deficit we have ever had, are embroiled in a war that John McCain says may last 100 years, have spent billions of dollars on that war and have gas prices that are out of sight.  

Now you have the second coming of JFK that is promising to unite us and change the way business is done in Washington, and to do this he is enlisting the aid of many of hardest core Washinton insiders you can think of.  I for one find think it sounds like the same old song being sang by a different singer.  Just like all of you I would love to believe we were going to see the change he promises, but it is hard to believe that when he surrounds himself with the very thing he says is wrong with Washington.  For the sake of this country I hope I am wrong if he is elected, but as for me, I will pass on voting for him.  At least with Clinton I know that the past policies employed by Bill Clinton brought us a balance budget and a surplus.  I know I personally was much better off financially than I am now.  
in every poll before campaigning began, clinton was ahead of obama, sometimes 2 to 1. once clinton and obama came to said state and presented their arguments, we see close primaries all over the country. the plain truth is hillary has name recognition. obama is too new just to vote for him cuz he sounds good if you're a rank and file democrat. i honestly think if obama and clinton campaigned, we would have seen a much closer race. wait, it wasn't a race. it was a beauty contest. it don't mean shiiet.
in every poll before campaigning began, clinton was ahead of obama, sometimes 2 to 1. once clinton and obama came to said state and presented their arguments, we see close primaries all over the country. the plain truth is hillary has name recognition. obama is too new just to vote for him cuz he sounds good if you're a rank and file democrat. i honestly think if obama and clinton campaigned, we would have seen a much closer race. wait, it wasn't a race. it was a beauty contest. it don't mean shiiet.
HRC can take some consolation that a lot of CA voters have already voted absentee and that she won those voters 53-30.
Nathan Hale, Washington, DC

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I don't know, I don't think 83 votes are going to matter that much. And besides, why are they counting and announcing the results before next Tuesday?
Something tells me you are not telling the truth.
I agree with the poster Travis Fritsche fully. I have lost respect for MSNBC and dont want to watch your news coverage and will not buy anything that is advertised in Chris Matthews's shows. Other than Keith Olbermann and Tom Brokaw the TV coverage has become a sounding horn for Obama and has become worse than Fox News (which most of us know is anything but fair and balanced). Shame on you MSNBC! Your election coverage did not even show the vote counts of the democratic party in Florida. Granted that they were stripped off of delegates but other channels like CNN and Fox atleast showed the vote counts of both parties. You did not want to show that Hillary Clinton was winning, you did not report that Obama did campaign there and you continue to help fix this election. It is your kind of people that call themselves journalists whose reporting created the condition for America to support the Iraq war. You are putting down not Hillary by not showing the vote counts but showing immense disrespect for the people of Florida that went to the voting booths to cast their Ballot. Shame on You First-Read and MSNBC!
I dare you to post this and not censor this under your excuse of moderation.
Thank you "Mr. Travis Fritsche of West New York, NJ" who posted at 10:21 PM!!!  You are right on top of things with your comment.  I could not agree with you more regarding how obviously slanted NBC/MSNBC are against Senator Clinton.  It seems that they want Obama to just have an easy "slide and ride" into office - so they let him get away with EVERYTHING while scrutinizing every syllable that comes out of Hillary and Pres. Clinton's mouths!!  Obama's eloquent speeches turn into wimpy whines everytime somebody says something challenging to him.  I am so tired of the slanted reporting until I have written to Brian Williams and Tim Russert to announce that I am switching to ABC if they don't present the news in a non-biased format.  This is not fair and only makes me support Hillary all the more!   Thank you again Travis and to "Hillary...You Go Girl!"  from a 45-yr old African American woman in NC!!



Rob...CA....Clinton had robocalls going in Florida. It has already been reported on this evening by Keith Olbermann. Obama's ad was cleared by the Party officials. Those calls weren't. For some reason you Clintonites think we don't see Hillary. Well, you're wrong. We've had plenty of time to get to know her, and we just don't trust her. And we sure as hell don't hate the Repubs. like you guys do. Not enough to give the Clintons the White House again. It's time to work together. Hillary will not unite. The Obama supporters are a solid force now. We will win. Feb. 5th states.....Now's you're time. Things don't have to be the same old way. We are a great country that's just forgotten how to be great. Vote Obama and let's be who the world needs us to be.

"Why should anyone think that a small group of people can change the world?"....."Because it's the only thing that ever has."
While there were no delegates at stake it would be ridiculous to say that the outcome has no meaning.

I also agree that the media has turned on Hillary Clinton.  I heard Tucker call her 'the little woman' a night or two ago and its well documented that Matthews is incapable of a neutral position all the while spewing sexist remarks.  If Matthews remarks were geared towards race rather than sex he have been fired long ago.
Char... let me put it succinctly.

Hillary won 50% of the vote.

Obama won 33%.

Short.  Sweet.  Hillary won.
All you Hillary Haters, lay off!! Everyone should be allowed their fantasies!
Go Hillary! You can bring about the necessary improvements that this country sorely needs!

You won Florida EVEN WHEN OBAMA BROKE HIS PROMISE BY AND ADVERTISING IN FLORIDA!

Hillary Hillary Hillary!
Watching the news on TV today, I heard that Bill Clinton was making phone calls to Florida citizens and the people in power there.  One of the newsmen even said it would have been great to tape these calls to see just what Bill was saying.  Yep, more manipulation of the voting process by the Clintons.  WINNING BY CHEATING AND MANIPULATION IS NOT A TRUE WIN!!  but the Clintons don't care HOW they win as long as they win!!  I hope the DNC stands firm in its decision to not count the Florida delegates. To give in to the Clintons would be a disaster and the Clintons would once again revel in their corrupt power to cajole, manipulate, and control.  God Help Us All!!

And what the heck was Hillary doing in Florida, anyway?  And holding a rally?  This rally was not planned overnight, its been a while in the making!  You better believe there were some dirty games going on behind the scenes!!

Makes you want to vomit!!
Tomorrow, Hillary is going to Disney, and is going to play dress up with Snow White.
To all the Barack supporters. I Have a question. If Barack won by the same margin in Florida, would you still say, the 1.5 million Florida votes counted for nothing. I would like an honest answer.
I was an undecided democrat, until tonight! Hilliary seems mentally unstable! Will someone please ask her what she won?!? She is totally delusional! Well, I can cross one out of the three off of the list.
Kristen, Atlanta, GA


Kristen - good for you. When you are done crossing all the names off, come take a look at the Republican candidates.
Michael, obviously you don't understand the meaning of hope and unity....as the Clintons injected race, you, by using Obama's middle name in a derisive manne, clearly let us know your worldview.....the world is changing and you and others like you will be left behind.  It's the past versue the future...we want a better future.
Just remember, boys and girls, Hillary is sincere whether she means it or not; she is truthful all of the time sometimes; she is fully qualified partially; and she is a duplicitous ass absolutely all the time.
The commercials Obama bought were National, they were not specifically targetted towards Florida.  I guess he missed out on the "National except Florida" special.


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