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Obama focuses on electability

Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:34 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
DENVER, CO -- There were two clear targets in Obama's speech at the University of Denver on Wednesday morning -- one named (McCain), the other alluded to (Clinton).

In a speech the day after McCain won the Florida Republican primary, becoming that party's new presidential front-runner, Obama argued that the Democrats can't start the general election with half the electoral map against them -- and that they can't take on McCain when their nominee has the same positions as he does on foreign policy issues.

"It's time for new leadership that understands that the way to win a debate with John McCain is not by nominating someone who agreed with him on voting for the war in Iraq; who agreed with him in voting give George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran…" Obama said, also pointing to Clinton's positions on torture and diplomacy.

The fact that there were no longer two potential obstacles to the Republican nomination but one was clear when Obama began his speech with words of praise for Edwards, who dropped his bid for the presidency early this morning.

"So while his campaign may end today, the cause of their lives (John and Elizabeth Edwards) endures for all of us who still believe that we can achieve that dream of one America," Obama said. He named every candidate in the race, including Senator Hillary Clinton, and called them "an all-star cast," but the praise didn't overshadow the thrust of Obama's argument that he -- and not Clinton -- is the best choice for the Democratic party.

While electability was the message that Obama wished to convey, the choice felt far more connected to one between generations of leadership rather than who could win against a Republican. The 9,500 people in the audience at Magness Arena was filled with students chanting "We Want Change" and "Yes We Can!" before Obama's arrival.

And the appearance of Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of the late John F. Kennedy, who introduced Obama spoke to that generational choice. Telling the crowd that over the years she had been deeply moved by people who said they were inspired by her own father, Caroline Kennedy said that the "longing" to be inspired "is even more profound today."

"Fortunately there is one candidate who offers that same sense of hope and inspiration. That candidate is Barack Obama," she said.

Obama too played upon the idea of passing the torch, setting up the choice in this election as choosing not only change but between "the past and the future."

"I know it's tempting -- after another presidency by a man named George Bush -- to simply turn back the clock, and to build a bridge back to the 20th century," Obama said.

Repeating a line from his victory speech in South Carolina Obama added, "It's about the past versus the future. And when I am the nominee the Republicans won't be able to make this election about the past because you will have already chosen the future."

Obama went into a list of eleven detailed attacks regarding Senator Clinton including her votes on bankruptcy, trade, and foreign policy. But the thrust of his argument about Clinton was to cast her as a polarizing figure.

Speaking of a woman looking for health care, he said, "She can't afford to wait another four years or another fifteen years to get health care because we've put forward a nominee who can't bring Democrats and Republicans together to get things done." Using Clinton's own line against her, he added: "It's not enough to be ready from Day One -- you have to be right from Day One."

Like in Iowa, Obama's speech felt like a closing argument a blueprint for why he should be chosen as president over someone far more well known and equally qualified for the job. In Iowa, that argument brought many audiences to its feet as he delivered the same message, stop after stop, over course of seven days before the caucuses there. Obama has seven days to do the same thing again. But unlike Iowa, the groundwork for that closing argument has not been laid out as carefully and methodically.

The Clinton campaign questioned Obama's speech as an attempt to go negative after a pledge to run a positive campaign. They pointed out that Obama -- like Clinton -- voted to fund the war in Iraq. And they noted his criticism of Clinton on voting for the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on Iran overlooked both the fact that Obama missed that crucial vote, as well as Clinton's opposition to using military force against Iran without congressional approval.

Eighteen thousand people showed up to see Obama in Denver, the site of the 2004 Democratic national convention and what Democrats see as a state that could go the Democrats' way in 2008. Obama spoke to an overflow crowd of 4,500 at an adjacent gym, and also addressed a second overflow crowd of several thousand at the university's lacrosse stadium. The Denver Broncos' Rod Smith and Federico Pena, the former mayor of Denver, were also on hand and spoke to Obama's ability to bring change.

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Obama is so full of it. He will not win.
OMG!!


ENDORSING OBAMA.... Political Zombies, return of "The Night Of The Living Dead."

Kennedy, couldn't beat Carter:  Kennedy, was dumb enough to actually try to (up end) that is, take the nomination away from a "sitting president," (splitting and fracturing the party,) many say (convincingly) the result was Ronald Reagan... Ted Kennedy's political strategy was a disaster, for "mainstream" Democrats.  

Tom Daschel couldn't keep his Senate seat:  At a time when Democrats were winning seats in congress, Daschle lost his...

Kerry, couldn't beat the swift boaters:   In matters of the Vietnam War,  Kerry, who amazingly, had served two tours of duty in Vietnam, could not out maneuver, George Bush, who never served one... and spent much of his war time, in fancy bars in Houston... Kerry was caught like a deer in a cars headlights, just stood there helpless as the swift boaters ran him down.

 Michael Ducacus, Gov. of Massachusetts:  Couldn't beat Willie Horton, look to the deer frozen in the car headlights scenario. George Bush Senior used a "swift boat" tactic, and it torpedoed the White House dreams of  Michael Ducacus....

Kerry got played by the same card Ducacus was played by, albeit was twelve years later, in 2004 against George Bush junior.   The "old" card hand, of George Bush Senior, smashed Kerry's White House dream, like dropping a bottle of Heinz ketchup on a tile kitchen floor.  

Does history  matter?  Ask any Obamite and they will tell you history has nothing to do with anything... As babies play in mine fields... you might think about.. John Kerry..Teddy Kennedy.. Tom Daschle, and it is easy enough to factor in  Dubya's foreign policy...

Is someone suppose to be impressed with this "old" *losing* baggage, of
Kennedy, Kerry, and Daschle? By the way the latest is Al Sharpton, he too has chimed in for Obama, another great endorsement... Just adding more fuel to the fire of Obama being viewed as a polarizing political figure...  These darlings of the extreme left, are the kiss of death in the general election, there is no other way to view it.  Unless of course "history," does not matter.

These are desperation politicos. They already know "The Clinton's" are well a head outside of South Carolina, where the African American land slide vote, gave Obama his big win.  

Obama, lost more than 75% of the White votes there in South Carolina.  And this looks to be a pattern that will continue... And, if "The Past" is any measure of the future, (it is, except when talking to Obamites) the "Hispanic Vote" will be even more lop sided for Hillary Clinton.... That is greater than the approximately 3/1 white vote, that Obama lost in South Carolina.  

By the way there is nothing wrong with saying Jesse Jackson carried South Carolina twice. He did carry the state twice. It's interesting how Bill and Hillary are racist, for just speaking the truth. Pundits say Lily White Iowa this,  Lily White Iowa that,  but you never hear then say Black South Carolina....

This it is not allowed, that is to criticize Obama, and or other blacks, about race, however it is perfectly OK to twist, turn, change, distort, regurgitate, and diarrheaise, everything the Clinton's say, as "race bating."  THIS TRIPLE, OR QUADRUPLE STANDARD, IS KILLING OBAMA AMONG WHITE AND HISPANIC VOTERS.  

This desperation in the 11Th hour "ploy," by Kennedy and the rest, is nothing more than trying to resurrect a sinking ship. That's what all of this is all about folks. It has absolutely nothing to do with Bill Clinton, or what Bill Clinton said, or did not say. It's simply an excuse that the 'EXTREME LEFT" needed and wanted,  because they see their "Baby" slipping into a "polarizing" candidate, and the "Rainbow Coalition" concept is losing traction instead of gaining traction. That is, Obama's, declining popularity among white and Hispanic voters.

Now, Kennedy and others, on the "extreme left," are rushing in and trying to plug the gaping ice burg sized holes, this "hair brained race baiting political strategy," has punched in the Obama ship...  

This very well may be, too little to late, the little bitty life boats., Kerry, Kennedy, Daschel, ain't gonna hold back the tide all those votes "coming out" against this racial double standard...We are tired of it, and no, we're not going to give up the White House, simply because they say they want it...

MSNBC Pundits "screamed" it was all Bill Clinton's fault, (for those who don't understand) it's a concerted effort to try and take Bill out of the game, because they realize what a significant weapon he is... The Ted Kennedy camp decision that Bill is too much of a racist, and they must rush in and save the country, is nothing more than politics as usual.   And now, low and behold, Ted Kennedy is going to save the day, and raise the "sinking titanic," unlikely folks.  

Ted Kennedy is a "paper tiger" of the "extreme left"  The only thing one reads about the ''extreme left" within the last thirty years in Presidential Politics, are political obituary's... The fact that Obama is now letting these "Night of the Living Dead" political zombies placate for him, is a very big telling sign, that he might be soon to join them...

Obama is a lying, sneaky, underhanded snake-oil-salesman who supported a slum-lord in Chicago and engaged in an uninvestigated kickback/political-favor-land-deal which netted him a huge house and parcel of land for less than 25% of it's estimated market value.
He is an immature little child who sophmorically tried to snub Hillary at the State of The Union. We certainly don't need a candidate, or a president with that kind of juvenile attitude.
Hillary is the clear cut first rate choice to be President. She has the credentials, she has the experience.

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
CHANGE is the residue of DESIGN,
DESIGN, only comes from EXPERIENCE!
Obama would most likely beat McCain.  He could quite conceivably beat him in a landslide.

Clinton, on the other hand, might beat McCain.  I would have said she was the slight favorite until a few weeks ago when she took it upon herself to start offending independents, young people, African Americans, and half the entire Democratic Party; now Clinton vs. McCain would a legitimate toss up in the fall.

Do we want to risk another four years of George W. Bush-like Republican rule on a toss up, or go for the most electable candidate whose lifetime record is more consistently progressive anyway?
"Change" is great.  But WHAT "change" remains unspoken by Obama.  It is time for him to be specific, and to outline exactly what he has in mind.
Does Obama want to be a peracher or President. I don't care for him. I hope the Clintons roll over him on the way to winning the nomination.

Hispanics won't vote for a black person.
Either one, Clinton or Obama, would beat McCain. But what if it's Romney?
Obama is absolutely right about this statement. I'm an independent and have been watching from the sidelines deciding who can run against McCain.. The truth is Hillary did vote Yes for the war in iraq and Yes for the war in Iran.. This is a very tough argument for HRC if she was to win the nomination & that is on top of all the other SpinZone that will come out (Lewinsky, NAFTA, etc)..

If Obama brings this to light tomm @ the debate, he's on the right track.

My vote is for him next Tuesday here in California.. He is by far the most electable & freshest' candidate the Dems currently have...

Gary - Torrance, CA

The fact that Edwards did not endorse Obama must be considered a slap against him and a de facto endorsement of Clinton. Something must have changed for Edwards as it had appeared that he had gone out of his way to, at times, align his message with Obama’s. One thing that I am hearing is that Edwards is mad as hell at the media bias for Obama and feels that his candidacy was never given its due by the media. If this is true, then the media should take a deep breath and realize that there is an under current of a backlash against the media and the result is that there are protests votes for Hillary and against Obama due to the media establishment acting as a surrogate for Obama.
Frankie - So I guess Clinton being endorsed by "losers" like McGovern and Mondale means she's a loser, too, huh?  This is a comment area for voters, not Clinton campaign press releases.
"A bridge back to the 20th century."

That's a pretty good line.
Both Democrats and Republicans may not like to hear it, but it's the Independents that will decide the general election. We can support either McCain or Obama....but will support neither Clinton, Romney nor Huckabee.
Hey Patty, stop your hate mongling already..i've seen you post the same ignorance on 4 blog threads..

You are the epitomy of slime we have in the US. You obviously have issues you need to tend to, but don't participate in an intelligent debate if you can't write something meaningful.

Thank You.

Frankie..its people like you that will cause the Democrats to lose the WH to the republicans again.  Everyone knows Independants will not go to Hillary over McCain.  She can't inspire the youth vote..so they won't show up and she has aliented the AA vote...the majority of them won't show up, SHE WILL INSPIRE REPUBLICANS WHO NORMALLY WOULDN'T VOTE FOR MCcAIN.  All she has left are people like you
"Eighteen thousand people showed up to see Obama in Denver...Obama spoke to an overflow crowd of 4,500 at an adjacent gym, and also addressed a second overflow crowd of several thousand at the university's lacrosse stadium."

....WOW!  
Exactly what he needs to do, show the contrast by putting the spotlight on exactly what is Hillary's "experience". The informed voter always rises to Sen Obama.
70 % of his base are voters between 18 - 29..Enough said..
Eighteen thousand people, on a very cold day in Denver?  Waiting outside for hours to get in?  

Note to the Hillary trolls, who lately somehow always get in the first comments:  You cannot buy that kind of energy and excitement -- it's an energy and excitement that brings new voters to the polls and that all of the down-ticket Democrats will be hungering for so that the Democrats can do more than win a narrow victory but can also grab several more Senate and House seats and maybe even some "red" states.
Patty, this Hispanic is voting for Barack Obama. Though the Clintons want this country to believe that we Latinos wouldn't vote for an African-American, this Latino has a mind of his own.

I frankly find it offensive that the Clintons would make such an insinuation. Here in Illinois, Obama enjoys a great amount of support from Latinos.

Ron is absolutely right. I hope the media picks up on this.. This election will be about the "Independent" vote.

Obama is the only democrat that can pull independents, the young vote, + shameless republicans..

The clear choice is OBAMA to go against McCain. I think he'll beat him by a landslide to be honest with all of you..

- JB
Patty, Does Obama want to be a peracher or President. I don't care for him. I hope the Clintons roll over him on the way to winning the nomination.

Hispanics won't vote for a black person.

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Hispanics has the right to vote for any candidate of any color.  People like you are so sick, or dumb, or both to believe people can not look beyond race.  If a black votes for a hispanic or white , there's no problem.  I don't see all your stupid haterd.  
Actually, Patty shows why the 19th Amendment may have been a dumb idea.
J. Merle Stanley, it sounds like someone else is the juvenile if you're pointing out the media's obsession with having a fight, a fight that's not even accurately portrayed.

barack obama has led, by far, the most positive, honest, and uplifting campaign and i challenge you to attend one of his events and read about his policies. and don't even try to pass that "rezko" scandal by anyone. unless you want us to bring up monica-gate, impeachment, whitewater, travelgate, hillary's unreleased documents, norman hsu and all the clinton campaign finance scandals, etc.

cmon now...
RJS - I wouldn't call it a slap in the face just yet.  Give Edwards a day before you guess what he's going to do.  It makes more sense to drop out one day, and wait to endorse the next day to give your supporters a chance to catch their breath; Giuliani's dropping out and endorsing McCain in the same day is not something you usually see for that reason.  
Breaking news for you Aswini. Perhaps you can get response from the Obama camp today:

On Monday February 4, 2008, the Clinton campaign will host an unprecedented live webcast town hall with 21 Super Tuesday states participating simultaneously in the conversation by satellite. It will be the first time in presidential campaign history that voters in the Super Tuesday states can have their voices heard in a single national town hall. The event, called "Voices Across America: A National Town Hall" will be simulcast starting at 9 p.m. EST on hillaryclinton.com. [...]

The 22 cities where the campaign will host events are Birmingham, AL; Phoenix, AZ; Little Rock, AR; Los Angeles, CA; San Francisco, CA; Denver, CO; Hartford, CT; Wilmington, DE; Athens, GA; Boise, ID; Chicago, IL; Wichita, KS; Boston, MA; St. Paul, MN; Kansas City, MO; Cherry Hill, NJ; Albuquerque, NM; New York, NY; Grand Forks, ND; Tulsa, OK; Knoxville, TN; Salt Lake City, UT.

Patty, speak for yourself! Over here in New Mexico we are fired up over Obama! I participated in a Democratic Party straw poll last evening. Obama 50 votes, Hillary 41 votes and Edward 23 votes.

I think Obama is the only person who can beat McCain or Romney.
Wow........ talk about a nation divided.  I urge everyone to look at the facts, look at the character of the candidates, and you will have two candidates left to choose from.  Senator McCain and Senator Obama.  Then look at which of those two can lead us into the future and that candidate is Senator Obama.
They are going to make this election about your record Senator Obama, not about bombastic speeches. I really think you are doing a grave diservice to America by promising everything. It is so wrong.

I live in Massachusetts. Last November we were promised change. I thought the world was going to be flipped on its head with our new governor. It was the exact opposite. Our governor has done nothing. Nothin at all.

Senator John Kerry and Ted Kennedy are calling for change. I think there should be change to, but starting with them. How in God's name can Obama be the change candidate when he has two guys backing him who have been in Washington for a total of 60 years combined? Massachusetts has lost job after job. Our healthcare costs have skyrocketed. Our infastructure is falling apart. And all the young people are leaving because of the costs of home prices.

This is the change Barack Obama is talking about, and its good if your a liberal and you have money, if your a liberal and you dont have money, your going to join the rest of the poor people in Massachusetts and everywhere else.
Jefferson from Los Angeles. Does the truth bug you?
Face it he won't win. The fairy tale is about to come crushing down.
I'm a lifelong democrat but there is no way I would ever vote for Hillary Clinton.

We can't take another 4 years of that political circus.

She is one of the most underhanded, dirty and dishonest politicians I've ever seen. She fits in far better company with Karl Rove than the democratic party.

And on top of all that, she is almost ssured to lose an election against McCain!

Obama is the only candidate with any hope of passing a progressive agenda.

It is Obama or third party for me this year.
Was your reporter even at this event? The speech was at the University of Denver not the University of Colorado. And 18,000 heard the speech? Who gave the reporter the crowd estimate, the Obama campaign? The crowd was impressive but it was more like 6,000 and mostly college students from DU.
I am Hispanic too and I have Filipino friends and they nobody I know is voting for obama.

We don't want a black president.
Trumpet sound please!

Make way to the new knight of the Camelot. Barack Hussein Obama!!!!

Wow! probably with Ted on his side he thinks is above of them all. Make sense now why he snubbed Hillary at the SOTU. Who is this lady in red that want to shake hand with me kind of stuff" What a display of arrogance!

Hey NObama, did you checked Ted Kennedy with BREATHALYZER before you embraced him? I mean, does he smell sober?

Or did you asked Ted Kennedy if ever your ship is sinking, he will not abandoned you?

Or else, just make sure to learn the lyrics of "Bridge over Troubled Waters".
My original post;
"So...what this means, is that Hillary will pick up a lot of support from Edwards backers, almost half of them in fact.
While, Obama will only get about 25%."
******************************************************MK's response;
"...You apparently have some problems with math.  4 in 10 means 40% not 50%.  And just as interstingly this ONE poll shows that the remaining 35% of Edwards supporters are up for grabs..."

Dear MK,
YOU are the one who apparently has a problem with math, and with your english comprehension skills as well.
I said "almost half" not '50%'...and 4 IS "ALMOST HALF" of ten.
Furthermore, MSNBC's report said that Obama gets "a quarter" of Edwards supporters as their second choice.
"A QUARTER" is .25 or 25%, NOT 35% as YOU suggested.
See folks?
THIS is the kind of "spin" you get from these...well, assholes. (There just isnt any other way to put it.)
Aliken to the candidate they support, Barrack Obama, nothing they say can be trusted

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
CHANGE is the residue of DESIGN,
DESIGN is the product of EXPERIENCE
Obama has no substance, therefore he has NO choice but to try and discredit Hillary. It's so obvious....he still can't answer a staight question, he either attacks Hillary or goes into his pre-scripted stump speech. Hillary garnered an incredible amount of votes in Florida, about 900,000!She was ALSO gracious enough to go and thank the VOTERS for their support, because that is what this election is all about, the voters, remember??? Hillary did NOT try to tell them they didn't count, like Saint Obama did! Do you honestly think ANY democrat can win the general election without Florida and Michigan? Obama is so arrogant that he can't even thank the voters in Florida for the support that he did receive....THAT would not bode well for him in the GE, not that it matters. Hillary beat Obama in every demographic except the black vote, INCLUDING white males! HILLARY 2008!!!!!!
Patty, san Diego,

"Hispanics won't vote for a black person"

this goes a long way to buttress my belief all along that some hispanics are simply jealous of blacks incursion into the country's politics. this shouldn't be the case b'cos with time hispanics will also be on the national stage just like the blacks who waited for this opportunity. please grow up and don't play by the divisive style put on the 2 groups by those who will benefit in the end. speak for yourself in the furture. suprised the clintons didn't see anything wrong with the demography of the vote in florida.please patty and your likes, don't bring your third world "ethnic" politics into american society.
thank you


What's the use of being a Dem when you don't get the Peace Party? If the Dems can't counter what McCain is saying, why bother? McCain is not hedging. He's saying we stay, we should have won early, and everything we did was right. There is another side. There is a side that says this is too much like Colonialism, that we can't go in and impose a European history/culture on a Muslim state. Especially so in Iraq, a place with a serious sectarian divide.

Can you sell that with fancy rhetoric about generic change? No.

One thing about what Teddy did for Obama. That's it, really, for the Kennedy's. You can't really trot that stuff out much more. I guess RFK Jr wants the Clinton seat, the RFK seat? So he's for Clinton, not ascribing motives.

As an Hispanic male i take absolute offense to the Media generalizing all of us as not voting for OBAMA. My whole family are OBAMA supporters and we all happen to be educated, American citizens.

OBAMA's work w/ Latinos in Chicago goes back to the early 1990's. He's been a staunch advocate within the Latino community, but there is no "spin" in the Media reporting this..

I encourage everyone to not get caught in the media frazzle and vote the person that inspires you, stands for leadership, & can work across all parties.. We have to be united in order to make change in this nation. OBAMA encompasses this for myself and my "latino" family.
African Americans will always stand by the peoples of their color regardless of the principle . Remember the very classic example of OJ SIMPSON . That doulbe murderer enjoys his very freedom outside of jail now because people of his color did nOt make decision base on principal but rather an emotional one.If the white said or do anything to the black, they will be label as racist no matter what. But is is O.k for the black to do or say anything. It is DOUBLE STANDARD.
I find it interesting that when things get tough what is the first thing Hillary does?  She runs to Bill and begs him to fix the problem for her.  In South Carolina when she realized that she was going to lose she unleashed Bill and his negative antics.  She realized that she could not win the state on her own so she asked Bill to win it for her.  When the results came in as a resounding defeat who was the first Clinton to speak?  That's right, it was Bill, not Hillary.  If Hillary can't win without Bill doing all of the work for her how can she possible solve any problems for America without turning to Bill and begging him to do the work for her?  Hillary is not capable of doing the job.  She needs Bill to do all of the work for her.  A vote for Hillary is a vote to elect Bill because she is totally incapable of handing the job.
Obama just began bashing the Hillary the way he was complaining about prior to SC.  Double standard and reverse racism at its best.  The media is a complete let down and an embearassment to citizens of the United States.  Between the Media and Obama, there will be nothing for the States to be United about.  Make it a fair race, cover each candidate equally and with fair reporting.  I am quit tired of hearing what an angel Obama is and how Hillary is the devil.  
Shameless republicans, JB? Way to be a party hack. Guess once your in one party you are never allowed to deviate based on issues or the candidates, right? Oops...sorry for believeing this was America.
Obviously, Patty thinks she is the king of the Latinos...

Obama doesn't appeal to voters w/o a high school education anyways. Good Luck on getting that GED..

LATINOS FOR OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am Hispanic too and I have Filipino friends and they nobody I know is voting for obama.

We don't want a black president.
patty, San Diego, California (Sent Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:04 PM)

Wow, patty.  Just . . . wow.  That's a great basis for choosing (or not) a candidate.

You know...all this infighting between Obama supporters and Clinton supporters is sure to doom the election in November. Remember that.
OBAMA is definitely playing POLITICS AS USUAL..

He constantly attacks Hillary on the trail and he and his supporters spint it as "drawing necessary contrasts",,But if Hillary questions him on anything "thats politics as usual"...

He scrutinizes her record, but anyone questions his 100 present votes in Illinois or his lack of a record in Washington, "thats politics as usual"..

OBAMA IS A HYPOCRITE and quite frankly, simply another politician playing POLITICS AS USUAL...

VOTE YOUR BRAIN, VOTE HILLARY
Just in case people beleive MSNBC when they say Florida doesn't matter, check out the exit polls.  That means people who actually showed up to vote not absentee ballot people.  Hillary wins almost every category that's not directly related to Obama.  That means independents went for Hillary.  Hispanics went for Hillary with 61% of their vote.  Check it out and read for yourselves.  If MSNBC tells you anything else, it's a lie.  1.8 million people voted for Democrats yesterday and Hillary got almost 900,000 of them.  And in case anyone noticed, McCain and Romney both got more votes than Obama did in Florida.  You can't win the Presidency without Florida.  So here is the exit polls.  Put any spin you want,but the fact is, Obama would not beat McCain or Romney in Florida and Hillary would.  She got 160,000 more votes than mcCain did. Don't be alamed that the poll is on Fox news, it's still a straightfoward exit poll.  I hate fox, but it seems it's the only website that will give you updated exitpoll numbers for the democrats.  If there is another website, please let me know.

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/30/florida-democratic-exit-poll/
Does people ever think it through when they say Barack offers nothing?  What about all these people filling places to see him? Are they all stupid or blind?  When you say specifics, what are you talking about?  I mean, do you really believe a person would get this far without any specifics?  How about those who say Clinton is not that much different than Obama on policies, where do they get their information?  Anyone thinks they might've compared their policies?  I personally think that Hillary might be a slightly better president because she has great commands of all the issues.  I also think that Barack Obama might take the country in more unified way.  It's up to anyone to chose which they prefer, but stop with the "no specifics" mantra.  Look deep inside and say what you really feel.

Hey Patty, San Diego, California. I could care less that a Hispanic won't vote for Obama. Infact I hope they don't, and when OBAMA wins without there support we will owe these selfish unloyal people nothing. He will bring in more new voters of Black,White and many
young people in by the millions. When he wins the fence is going up and there will be no amnesty. No blood sucker allowed to suck the blood and moral fiber of this country. Keep your vote because in the end it means nothing.
BO is far from electable in a general election.  this "coalition" that the pundits keep praising is made up of blacks and younger voters, which does not constituge a winning coalition in Nov.  HRC, on the other hand, has a winning Nov. coalition in women, latinos, blacks and voters over the age of 65.  


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