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Domenico Montanaro, NBC News Political Reporter



First thoughts: A Super Day

Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:30 AM by Domenico Montanaro

From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** A Super Day: It isn't always that reality lives up to the hype. But this election -- which for the last two years has been billed as the most wide open since 1928 or 1952 (take your pick) -- seems to be one of those times. And this Super Tuesday, the single biggest primary day in US history, becomes the latest chapter in most exciting primary season in our lifetimes. On the GOP side, the front-runner McCain has the opportunity tonight to pretty much lock up the Republican nomination by running the table. Or Romney could pull off several upsets, particularly in California, which would allow him to keep his White House hopes alive. Things in the Dem race aren't as clear. Looking at the narrowing polls, Obama has the opportunity that would have been unthinkable just a week ago: beat Clinton across the country, even in Clinton strongholds (CA, NJ, CT), which would pull the Democratic contest in his direction. Or Clinton could do what she did in New Hampshire: defy those polls, hold onto those strongholds, and capture some of the toss-up states (like MO and AZ). Most likely, however, Clinton and Obama will split up the delegates pretty evenly, moving the contest to Feb. 12 (DC, MD. VA), Feb. 19 (WI, WA), and March 4 (OH, TX). Obama himself predicted a “split decision” on TODAY and Morning Joe.

*** Looking for the break: But campaigns rarely deliver split decisions, and that’s why it’s possible that the Democratic electorate could break one way or the other. What if undecideds all go one way? And don't assume we think we know which direction they will break. We could easily explain how women power a break for Clinton, allowing her to win most states on the board today -- just as we could easily see undecideds breaking Obama and him cutting into Clinton's massive advantages among women and Hispanics thanks to a surge of younger voters that alter the makeup of electorates. The polls over the last week seem to indicate momentum is on the side of Obama, but we've all seen this movie before (think New Hampshire).

*** So many questions: Super Tuesday also has the potential to answer several other questions. One, is Clinton the de facto incumbent in this race? If she is, it's going to be a long night for her campaign since she's well under 50% in a number of states. Why does this matter? Because if she's perceived as the incumbent, look for undecideds to break decidedly to Obama. Then again, a number of us thought undecideds would break for Kerry against Bush in '04, and that didn't happen. Two, what will have a greater impact on viewers Tuesday night: racking up delegates or racking up states? As the New York Times’ Nagourney writes today, "The delegate count might matter more officially, but the state results could count more politically, and that will be the central tension of the night." And three, in how many states will McCain break the 50% threshold, and should that matter? There are five primary states in particular that McCain could sweep (AL, GA, MO, OK, TN) that he'd lose if he were facing a two-way contest.

*** Romney's last stand: Michigan saved Romney at a time he needed saving politically. This time, he's asking California to do the same. Here's what Romney said last night in Long Beach, CA: "We’ll look with eagerness as to what happens in California." That sounds like someone who is counting on California to send him a message.

*** The basics: A total of 24 states hold primaries or caucuses today (22 for the Democrats and 21 for the Republicans). At stake are a combined 2,600-plus delegates -- more than 80% of the total numbers of delegates needed to win the nomination in both parties. Each state awards delegates differently (winner take all, proportional by statewide vote, proportional by congressional district, or some combination of the two). But what’s truly “at stake” in the voting -- and this is an important distinction to make -- are “pledged delegates,” who are publicly bound in theory to a candidate at the national convention. There are numerous unpledged delegates (the “superdelegates” on the Dem side) whose arms can be twisted into changing their minds. Polls close as early as 7:00 pm ET in Georgia and close as late as 11:00 pm ET in California. (And don’t forget those Alaska caucuses, which will provide results around midnight ET.)

*** How to count delegates: On the Republican side, it's VERY easy; there are enough winner-take-call states to allow anyone who did ok in high school algebra to follow along. The Democratic side is not so easy: The threshold for winning an extra delegate (from 3-3 in a six-delegate district to 4-2 to 4-3 to 5-2 in a seven-delegate district etc.) changes. Then you add in the superdelegates. The Clinton campaign claims about a 100-delegate advantage among the supers. So if she gets any delegate advantage tonight, then she'll claim a 100+ delegate lead early and often. Obviously, Obama's folks would like to win the night on the delegate front, so that Clinton's super lead is cut into the double digits. Speaking of the spin war, both the Clinton and Obama campaigns did their best yesterday to lower expectations, with Team Clinton reminding folks this could be a convention fight (can you say Florida and Michigan credential fight?) and the Obama folks reminding the media that Clinton's still the favorite tonight to win more delegates and more states. The truth? As always, somewhere in between!

*** The celebrity factor: Is there such a thing as too much celebrity help? It seems as if the rich and famous are coming out of the woodwork for Obama. Notes NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan: "Chris Rock and Scarlett Johansson recorded automated get-out-the-vote phone calls for Obama that went out yesterday, while singer Dave Matthews endorsed him on his website. Kate Michelman lent a feminist weight to his candidacy this weekend. And who can forget Oprah? These heavyweights, whether celebrities or politicians, have fanned out across the country to provide testimony to the potential of a Barack Obama candidacy." Usually, a candidate that wins the Hollywood primary doesn't always do as well in the rest of America. Obama might need to start worrying about looking too out-of-touch. Sure, the celebrities can help turn out the casual voter he's been targeting (particularly the youth), but celebrities can give a false sense of self-worth for the campaign, which is something Camp Obama may need to start worrying about.

*** On the trail: The locales for the candidates’ election night parties shouldn’t be surprising: Clinton is in New York City; Huckabee is in Little Rock, AR; McCain is in Phoenix; Obama is in Chicago; and Romney is in Boston. Elsewhere today, Clinton votes in Chappaqua, NY at 7:40 am ET; Huckabee attends the West Virginia GOP convention before heading back to Little Rock to vote at 3:15 pm ET; McCain holds rallies in New York City and San Diego before heading to Phoenix; and Romney attends the West Virginia GOP convention and holds a media avail in Charleston, WV before heading to Massachusetts.

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This is Obama's record on Abortion....

   *  Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)
   * Stem cells hold promise to cure 70 major diseases. (Aug 2007)
   * Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)
   * Extend presumption of good faith to abortion protesters. (Oct 2006)
   * Constitution is a living document; no strict constructionism. (Oct 2006)
   * Pass the Stem Cell Research Bill. (Jun 2004)
   * Protect a woman's right to choose. (May 2004)
   * Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998)
   * Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
   * Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
   * Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
   * Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
kincaid, Alcoa, TN:'...Hillary is not just the most qualified candidate, she is also the smartest, on both sides...'

If she's so SMART....
     WHY DID SHE VOTE FOR THE IRAQ WAR ?
WHY DIN'T SHE READ THE National Intelligence Estimate

WHY didn't she learn from her mistakes ?
Seh voted FOR Kyl/Lieberman !!


Hillary Clinton, 15 years of dishonesty, scandal and divisiveness
Hillary = Substance and Experience
Obama = Speeches and Inexperience.

Gee, who should Dems vote for today?  Isn't obvious?  Hillary 2008!  

However, I will gladly pull the lever for Obama should he be the Dem nominee in November because I am above all a loyal Democrat!

GO DEMOCRATS 2008!
I, like everyone I know, voted by mail-in ballot a couple of weeks ago.  California and Arizona may already be decided.  I am a Hillary fan.  As a middle-aged woman who struggled under the weight of the oppression of my time, it is empowering to watch one woman do what millions of us could not.  Hillary has taken a beating.  She has been bashed and vitrolized and assaulted.  She represents the lives of many of us.  Her beating will scare many young girls and women from attempting their dreams - lest they be bashed as well.  It is important that Hillary succeed to send a message that we can overcome.  It is important to teach young women not to listen to men who promise them the stars and the moon.  The promises we make to ourselves are the only promises that matter and each time one of us survives a beating, the bullies will beat a little less until we are able to stop the beatings all together.  Viva la Hillary!!!
BionicWoman, Tucson, AZ (Sent Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:27 AM)

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Hillary is hardly the champion of women.  Nearly all her experience and success is from riding the coat tails of a man (her husband).

If you really want a champion for women, find one that did it on their own, without a powerful husband pulling strings and helping with connections.

There are plenty of champions for women out there... Hillary is not one of them.
BionicWoman, Tucson, AZ / please spare us the 'I am women hear me roar' spiel, sadly some females will vote for hillary just for sexist reasons even though they know hillary is nothing more than a power hungry elitist who can't even relate to the average citizen. hillary offers no change, just more of the same
IT'S NOT TO LATE, CHECK IT OUT..hillaryclinton.com .
Hillary = Substance and Experience
Obama = Speeches and Inexperience.

Gee, who should Dems vote for today?  Isn't obvious?  Hillary 2008!  

However, I will gladly pull the lever for Obama should he be the Dem nominee in November because I am above all a loyal Democrat!

GO DEMOCRATS 2008!

Pat Huntington NY


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The wishy-washy-ness of the Democrats is striking. So you'll have no trouble voting for "Speeches and Inexperience"?
Im here in texas watching closely. I was republican for many years but am now going to vote for Obama, almost all my friends here are doing the same, the movement he has is amazing
all the hand wringing from democrats over Gonzales firing justice dept attorneys for not pursuing voter fraud is going to come back to bite you in the butt.  

When stuff like that is directed at the other side you want to marginalize it as not a big deal.  I doubt any of you will feel that way after today.  Cheating is cheating and in razor thin elections it's just not acceptable.  
It is astounding to me that Senator Clinton has gotten this far in the campaign without ever being directly address if she is considering the ex-president Bill as her running mate.  Many people when first entertaining this idea immediately assume that this is not possible because of constitutional presidential term limits.  This is not the case.  Please Google Bill Clinton, Vice President and you will see that most legal scholars say it is possible for Bill to be Hillary's running mate.  Does anyone think that this is not occurred to Bill? Now I don't think this is any deep conspiracy and as most would assume this would be the case be facto in any event the matter who was vice president and it makes sense for the Clinton campaign not to reveal this amazingly unpredictable revelation unless there is a make-or-break point in the campaign prior to the nomination.  What I think this is evidence of is the lack of responsible journalism in the media.  The deference that is given to both of the Democratic candidates is breathtaking.  Only once in the debates has anyone made reference to perhaps the biggest political setback the Democrats have faced in the last decades.  In that case Monaco Wednesdays' name nor the concept of impeachment was both left out to soften the question when Russert asked Hillary what her worst moment was. That is of course the Monica nightmare that no one seems to want to remember or at least be brave enough to bring up .    It is certainly revisionist history to say that the Clintons were elected to clean up after George H. W. Bush, when it is historical the obvious that George W. Bush was elected to clean up after the Clintons.  The Clinton presidency did great service to the Democrats by creating a legacy of comparative fiscal responsibility, but they were also responsible for Al Gore's lost which is been an amazingly critical historical turning point in American politics.  Someone please ask if Bill is going to be de facto vice-president or de jure prior to the end of the primary process!
All I know is that I love my country, and I want what's best for it.
That's why I am voting for Hillary today!
GET OUT AND VOTE AMERICA!

GO HILLARY, 2008!
J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:01 AM)

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My Hillary vote has been cast!  I am driving this afternoon taking voters for Hillary to the polls.  Its raining here and I have already driven as many as 22 this AM.  Well many more to transport J. Merle, I am seeing a great turnout of all voters! I live in a NW suburb in Middlesex County and we are Hillary voters.
Hillary needs women like BionicWoman. She needs someone to step on to avoid getting her feet wet in the puddles.
Barack the Vote!!!!!!
No matter who you vote for - Get out there and do it people! Think about people who have no rights.


Obama 08
I very rarely respond on these posts and never respond negatively to someone else's opinion but I'm sorry - here goes!  Jaycee - that is the biggest piece of crap comment I have ever read.  I also am a boomer and I do not consider myself a women's libber.  BUT, this is just one more example of where woman are to step asside for the "greater good" and listen to the wisdom of someone "smarter" to lead us.  Enough!  You and no one else will tell us how to vote and what is "best" for us.  According to your theory, the same can be said of Obama - he has come farther than any African American and deserves much credit for that.  So why not vote for Hillary - it will be a win-win - with Obama coming so far, Hillary winning the nomination the glass ceiling has been broken.  Isn't this your way of thinking?????  It is people like you that will drive women to vote for Hillary simply because she is a woman - people like you whether conciously or subconsciously hold women back.  NO MORE!!!!!!!
It is important to note a few things now that Super Tuesday has arrived.
First, we all desire change. I believe that every president in the history of our great progressive nation has stood on the desire and vision of change. I find it incredibly encouraging that today, at this point in history, we are all unified in the assumption and desire for a much needed change.

The greatest accomplishment of the day is that we have a nation united in this desire and inspired enough to realize that what makes this country great – what makes us America – is that we each have the power and responsibility to be a part of that change. It is not the person who occupies the White House who will create change for all of us. We are a nation ‘by the people, for the people’…that means we are in control of our destiny. That is the very freedom this country was founded on. The change that occurs does so as we all become responsible for our own decisions, for our own consequences. When we each realize that in order to change our ‘system’ we must become an active part of it we will have realized what it truly is to be American.
That is the great accomplishment of this day, Super Tuesday, Feb. 5, 2008!

Huckabee for President, 08
Actually you are wrong about WA State.  Our caucuses are this Saturday, the Feb. 9.  The primary on Feb. 19 are only a beauty contest for the dems.  And only give half the delegates for the GOP.

Very confusing!
Sierra in SF- Who cares? Why would you repost an entire H Post news story that was already available for anybody who cares that MoveOn.Org endorced Obama? Seriously? Do you have an opinion, or do you just copy and paste articles? Do people who support Clinton post the press release from the Gov of PA? Or the Gov of Ohio who endorced her? Everybody can play that game- as for the people who say 'Billary'- you are retarded.  
Her beating will scare many young girls and women from attempting their dreams

Only a dumb liberal would say that.....


It is important that Hillary succeed to send a message that we can overcome.

Overcome what?????
Did you just come out of your 60 year coma or what???

It is important to teach young women not to listen to men who promise them the stars and the moon.

But, yet, they still do up to this day.....Brittney Spears would be the most excellent example of how a young woman should NOT act....

Trying to figure out how Hillary Clinton is a champion of women is like Bill Bellichick trying to figure out how he lost to the New Jersey Giants Sunday.  

Some of you gals out there really need to take a long hard look at your lives and stop trying to believe that someone on a white horse is going to come and deliver you from whatever evil is invading your minds.
Hillary Clinton is not the answer.


To Jaycee in California- you said; 'If Hillary loses in November, (and she will lose) think about what that does to the chances of women seeking their party’s nomination in the future'............LOL  IF HILLARY WINS THE SAME STATES THAT THE TOAD KERRY DID WITH HIS HORRIBLE CAMPAIGN- AS WELL AS OHIO- SHE WINS- SIMPLE AS THAT. UNLIKE THE TOAD KERRY AGAINST BUSH- HILLARY WOULD WIN ARKANSAS OVER MCCAIN- All this fluff about polls is idiotic- Guiliani was far ahead for a year and was a huge flop. McCain comes across horribly in debates- either Clinto or Obama would beat him- polls now mean nothing.
My Hillary vote has been cast!  I am driving this afternoon taking voters for Hillary to the polls.  Its raining here and I have already driven as many as 22 this AM.  Well many more to transport J. Merle, I am seeing a great turnout of all voters! I live in a NW suburb in Middlesex County and we are Hillary voters.

HP Boston (Sent Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:59 AM)


Are you going to be right beside them in the booth to ensure they vote for Hillary???????

And if they don't, are they going to have to walk home in the rain?????
Huckabee for President, 08

Kathryn in Bham (Sent Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:04 AM

When he surrenders later this evening, I hope your vote goes to Mitt Romney.
Impact of early voting -- I heard (don't know if it's correct) that roughly half the people in CA cast their vote early, before the shift to Obama.

It seems to me that regardless of what current polling is showing, there are a lot of people who probably decided early and have already voted.  Even if they change their mind now, it's basically too late.

I think this is not good for Obama.   Since I was originally for Edwards and now for Obama, I am worried about the effect of early voting.
Hillary needs women like BionicWoman. She needs someone to step on to avoid getting her feet wet in the puddles.

Charles Napper (Sent Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:59 AM)


Judging from the blogs on here the last few months, she could walk on their back to London and never get her feet wet.
Mark S of N.C.- I apologize I reread your blog. I agree with you 100%. P.S. love your Smokey moutains, river rafting and Ashville.  
gee you talk about Obama celebrity endorsements, but how about all those long time politicians for McCain who have brought this country to where it is now...A disaster, of money and greed and corrupt Washington, i think i would rather have the celebrities than politcs as usual
Jaycee has been getting alot of play on this blog recently.  She is obviously employing the same speech writer obama is.  Its beautiful, eloquent, and poignant. But what are you really saying. When the dust settles, if Obama is the democratic nominee, when everyone realizes he doesnt have a clue, it will be too late.....
Jerry,
The really great thing about the voting system where we have primaries and caucuses is that we can vote for who we think is the right choice. I do not agree with Mitt Romney on issues of importance to me...Iraq and the economy for HUGE starters. I also take issue with the fact that he has recently changed his position on other matters - I question the authenticity of his decision, as I believe he knew that his greatest support could be gathered from the 'conservative christian/right' group, but not without oposing abortion and gay rights.

I wish that more people were educated on the platform that Gov. Huckabee is running on. I think that he was unfairly dubbed as the preacher wannabe president instead of the visionary that he is. Nevertheless, I will cast my vote for him.
I think Hillary would make the best president at this time. She puts forth the best this country has to offer after the last 8 years of a bankrupt administration that has brought this country to its knees.

We do not need another pie in the sky dreamer. We need a doer and we need one now!!!!!  
H P Boston, Good job, get as many as you can for Hillary. I will do the same in my state.

Vote Hillary '08






                                         Chuck Toddy?








"Hillary is not just the most qualified candidate, she is also the smartest, on both sides."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks for the laugh kincaid.
...And speaking of 1952, did anyone read the op-ed from Ike Eisenhauer's granddaughter, a Republican, supporting Obama, because, she said, the things her g'dad warned us about the "military-industrial comples" (his words, not some '60s radical's)have all come true under Bush, and only a really new thinker can fix the mess Bush has made.  Good readin', folks!
I am driving this afternoon taking voters for Hillary to the polls.  

HP Boston


All the people that I know are voting for Obama. And they know how to drive and own cars and stuff.
MSNBC lost me some time ago.  I will not watch the biased reporting from the Obama channel.  Matthews loves Obama!!  Go CNN and Hillary!!
Its not the race or gender of the Captain that best predicts the success of a ship's voyage.  It is the navigated COURSE and the VISION of the Skipper that predicates the vessel's journey.  There is only one candidate that has shown leadership and unity and an innate integrity that we need to command and guide our nation into a new age...that candidate is Barack Obama.
There goes Jerry again obsessing with all that is Hillary.....don't worry, no one is going to take away your Hillary dolls.  You will still be able to play with them after she wins the nomination and becomes Madam President.  We know, you are in love with her, secretly.  You can't wait for her to win the nomination because that means one step closer to your dream come true - being ruled by Hillary Rodham Clinton!  
1. I wouldn't vote for a Republican if you held a gun to my head, whhich might be the next thing they try.

2. I voted for the Clintons twice. That's enough.

GO OBAMA '08
NATIONAL POLLS SHOW THAT WITH 30 % OF THE VOTE IN, IT CLOSE.
Barack Hussein Obama is such an elegant speaker.
Thats is only accomplishment and talent.
So lets make him president.
Just an interesting FYI:  the Democratic party in WA is actually electing delegates via the Caucus process this Saturday, Feb 10.

The primary on Feb 19 is a beauty contest.
I was an Obama student in his classroom. I wouldn't vote for him.
I can't vote this round but go HILLARY!
I think that the media is only covering what they want in order to get rating and not doing a service to the people like they are suppost to do. My Point. There is more than just McCain and Romney running in this race.  Why is it that the other two have no coverage and yet Huckabee is third and running close behind but we can only focus on the two who can do nothing but talk about each other and not stick to the real issues of the people. I don't care about how much they uphold their record in the past, i want to know how they are going to be able to uphold this country.  DO YOUR JOB and get back to the election as a whole and not just a select few.
Please support Hillary... so that we get a Republican back in office for another four years!!!
I haven't voted yet today, but I can't wait!  I just wanted to add my voice to the Obama supporters ;-)

OBAMA '08!
just be careful those voting for mitt, I'm from utah, not everything you see is to be believed!!
No matter what the big guys or girls from the East  or big TV starlet say, you will shine as always. We trust America in your HANDS. As America was on Top at the time of president Bill it will be great at your time. Beat goliath HILLARY.
This is our country, let's take it back.  Make the "fairy tale" a resounding reality.
We need to gradually withdraw from Iraq over the next year.  costing the country too much in terms of lives and money.  We need a FLATTER tax code.  Like Thompson's idea of 25% max. rate.  make it for those earning 100,000 or more.  12.5% at 50K wage.  6.25 for 25 K.  etc.  Allow some mortgage interest deductions and some credit for kids.  Send most of the illegals back to country of origin, and stop the "anchor babies."  Ireland lets the kids decide at age 18 if they want Irish or other citizenship (kids born in Ireland and parents illegal).  Ireland deports the illegals (parents and children).  We need to let some of the illegals become citizens so they can pay REAL INCOME TAXES like the rest of us.  PUT PEOPLE BACK TO WORK and get them off the welfare rolls!  Deporting some of the illegals would free up some jobs that people on welfare could take!  Build American industry and quit importing cheap goods from Mexico!  Get rid of NAFTA!    Jerry


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