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Tsunami Tuesday (D)

Posted: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 AM by Mark Murray
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Obama won 13 states: Alabama, Alaska, Connecticut, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, North Dakota, Utah. Clinton won eight states: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. New Mexico hasn’t been called, but Obama has a very slight lead there.

The New York Times: “Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama carved up the nation in the 22-state nominating contest on Tuesday, leaving the Democratic presidential nomination more elusive than ever… It was a night of drama as millions of Democrats cleaved sharply between two candidates offering them a historic first: The opportunity to nominate a woman or an African-American to lead their party’s effort to reclaim the White House. Yet it was also a night when neither Mr. Obama nor Mrs. Clinton could decisively lay claim - or even secure an edge - to the nomination, assuring an electoral fight that will unfold for weeks to come.”

The Boston Globe: “Obama and Clinton began yesterday essentially tied at two victories each after voting in the first four states. And that is more or less how the day ended: Neither Obama nor Clinton scored a decisive win nationally.”

The Washington Post: In many of the states Clinton won, Obama had surged from far behind to narrow the gap in the days before Super Tuesday. Her ability to hold off his charge brought a sense of relief to her campaign advisers, but the likelihood that neither would emerge with a significant advantage in delegates was a sign that their roller-coaster competition would continue.”

Per the AP’s Ron Fournier, Clinton and Obama “fought to a draw on Super Tuesday, splitting the delegates almost evenly while each emerged with bragging rights. Obama won the most states. Clinton seized delegate-rich California and New York. The calendar now favors Obama, whose strength among blacks and upscale, educated voters gives him the edge in states holding contests this month… So why worry? Despite Obama's successes so far, it's hard to argue with Bill Clinton that it's a ‘roll of the dice"’ to vote for a freshman senator less than four years removed from the Illinois legislature. Obama still has much to prove. The potential for setbacks and mistakes is high.” 

The Boston Globe’s Canellos: “A fierce, protracted contest between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama could sour the good feelings - or energize the party even more, depending on how the candidates conduct themselves.”

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Ok, super duper Tuesday has come and gone and Barack is still standing tall.  This would be a good time for all of you who want to endlessly repeat that he’s a lightweight, all talk and no accomplishments, hasn’t paid his dues, has no specific plans, blah, blah, blah, to stop displaying your ignorance in public and get to know the candidate.  He carries a truly impressive set of accomplishments, his performance yesterday among them.  You don’t emerge from the Harvard Law School program with honors, for instance, unless you possess one of the sharpest minds in the nation.  And everything he has accomplished has been ALL ON HIS OWN.  He started with no advantages whatsoever and a lot of strikes against him, and look how far he has come.  

I know, it’s pretty scary.  People who get to know him tend to move in his direction and you don’t want to do that.  But if we learned anything in the run-up to the war, we should know that repeating something over and over does not make it true.  I don’t expect you to read his books, but you obviously have internet access and all the information to swat down this ridiculous spin is readily available to anyone who is serious about casting an informed vote.  
NY,CA,MA(LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL),NJ. Barry is the Spinal Tap candidate, playing the small venues. If McCain, "Didn't close the deal", because he can only seem to win in states that repubs LOSE in the GE, what does that say about Barry?

Huge win in the BIG states for the next president of the USA Hillary Rodham Clinton. Congratulations to Hillary and her team...
By Clinton winning mainly MA, CA, and NY, it bodes ill for the General Election since she can't win that many "red" states.

Basically, a vote for CLinton is a vote for McCain in Nov.
Howard Dean and Chris MAtthews were having an interesting conversation yesterday and Dean was asked, is there such a time when these two candidates should make an alliance so as not further divide the democratic party. Dean said there is a time for that, but as of yesterday it was not the time. It seems like its half and half. Rather than make it ugly, something should be worked out.
Clinton won California because of a MASSIVE gap amongst Latino(a)s and Asians.  I'll let that fact stand without comment, although it probably deserves some.

She lost in all the highly-educated sections of the state, such as the Bay Area.   Obama would win CA in a landslide in November, as he would in MA and NY.   For those trumpeting NY, MA, and CA wins, you may want to think a bit harder about the national election.
“There is no doubt … we hope and pray every night to run against Hillary Clinton,” - Ari Fleischer, on CNN last night.

Which is exactly why we need to make sure Obama wins the nomination.  Clinton, no matter how good she may be as president, no matter how much experience she has, simply will not win the general election.  Sorry folks, just how it will be.

I'm sure some Hillary supporters will try and spin it that he's using reverse psychology, but you are just trying to fool yourself.  Everyone sees it but you.
A week ago, Clinton was leading in 20 of 22 Super Tuesday states.  Now the results are mostly in, and it appears that Obama will win 14 of 22 states, many of which he was down by double-digits only a week ago.  This is an extraordinary victory--not nearly enough to clinch the nomination, but a sign of things to come.  Plus, as RobK from Seattle notes above, Clinton has shown an ability to win voters and states that Democrats almost always win.  In a general election, Obama will easily win California and New York, plus many others.  It is Clinton who must now deal with the question of electability.  She must also counter the increased scrutiny that will now be paid to her Iraq votes and her family's financial connections to the Saudi royal family and a major businessman in Dubei, who have given over 100 million dollars each to the Clinton library and the Clinton foundation, respectively.  
Democrats need to understand just two things.... firstly, if it comes down to Obama & McCain, the Republic machine will continue to steamroll over America.  Hillary can beat McCain, and face down the Republican machine in the House & Senate.  Obama lacks the intestinal fortitude.  His many votes of just "present", tells us he will play it safe everytime, rather than stand up and make a decision. Hillary will fight for her beliefs and her campaign promises and bring glory back to the Democratic party and the nation.  Hindsight will be too late. Democratic party - WAKE UP!! Secondly, hating the Clintons is no excuse to derail the country even further.  Put your personal differences aside and do what's best for the country.  It may be your last chance, at least for another 4-8 years.  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23006771/?GT1=10856.
By losing the two biggest and most diverse states in the nation (in a big way), it appears that Mr. Obama might have some major problems in the general election. ..Basically a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain in Nov.
I note that it is totally WRONG for anyone in the media to start suddenly reporting super delegate totals.  All along the totals have been based on delegates won by the voting.  Obama has been a bit ahead since Iowa, and he has EXTENDED his lead every voting day since.  Tie in NH, win in NV, win in SC, overall win on super tuesday.  Ultimately the superdelegates will have to follow the voting trend.  Thus, the number of delegates won should be reported, ESPCIALLY since that has been what is reported to date, and it is unfair to suddenly shift.  Shifting would give the impression Clinton gained on super tues.  But in fact she LOST ground (though just a tiny bit).
I am a white lifelong Republican that will change parties to vote for Obama as our President. I would be proud to tell the world this is our leader.  Hopefully the people of the Democratic party will close this nomination in his favor.  Clinton will divide not only her party but the nation as well if nominated.
Lynette, NYC, I agree with your position.  I think that whichever candidate wins the most "pledged" delegates by the end of the primaries [forget about super delegates], then the other candidate should concede the nomination at the point so as to avoid a bitter fight at the convention. The Dems need to come across as united as possible for as long as possible to counter what will happen with the repukes, who will have their established nominee within a matter of a month or so.  
Hillary's win in Massachussetts and California sends a message.  People hate the Kennedy's and old John Kerry too.  Oprah did no good either for Obama in California so she needs to keep her fat ass back in Chicago.

The country saw the weakness of Obama's candidacy so HIllary won the states that matter and almost won Missouri, she gets the same amount of delegates from that state or maybe like Nevada a little more.

She's absolutely great and she beat the establishment too, She and her husband President Clinton.
She will be wonderful for our country such a strong lady, Congratulations Senator Clinton.
I agree with jaycee & also with RobK,
We have the opportunity before us to elect a leader of truly great stature in Barack.
So many things need to be changed in our great country. We need a change in the foreign policy that CREATED the situation in Iraq. Do you know that Hillary has taken more money from the "military-industrial complex" than ANY other candidate. Are you SURE you trust her to change things?
If McCain gets elected, where are we getting the money & the personel to fight his warS??
Are you sure Hillary would be much different??



Hillary CAN win, but only when all the negativity stops about her not being able to win in the general election. That's just spin.

And as someone who has watched every single one of Obama's and Clinton's debates/speeches, I agree that Obama makes a convincing argument. Some of the things he has said gave me the chills. But Clinton is "tied" with him WITHOUT endorsements from Oprah, the Kennedy clan, or half of Hollywood. I don't think how he's winning this is right.
Hillary's wins were spectacular.  She beat Obama in CA despite his Hollywood endorsements, she beat Obama in MA despite the Kennedy endorsements, and she beat Obama in NY by a wide margin despite his attempt to beat her on her own turf.  Yes, Obama may have won more states than Hillary, but she won more delegates, and the states Obama won in, for the most part, were states with high black dem. voters.  But for the black vote, Obama would not be news anymore.
In CA, she won because it seems like name recognition is what matters to most Hispanics, not a desire for change. I guess they don't mind seeing the usual poisonous atmosphere of Washington. if they help elect Hillary this primary season, it is no doubt she will lose as demonstrated by her wins in overwhelmingly liberal states and Obama's in overwhelmingly red states. This will certainly help McCain, who I doubt can address the immigration issue and instead end up making a compromise to please conservatives, who may be happy to have all the illegals in this country thrown into chaos. I hope the ultimate victor will be either Hillary in November (which is unlikely) or Obama this nominating season and in November.
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or if we wait for some other time... We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek"

- Barack Obama, Feb 5, 2008
I think a dragged out race could help the Democrats, as long as they keep it positive. If the republican nomination is finally settled in a month or so and the Democrats are still going then they will have the stage for themselves. They all ready seem to take more attention, but this scenario could really be an advantage for them going in to November. They have the money. So I say keep it up to June, Let Montana be the decisive state.
Barack Obama: Ready to WIN ON DAY ZERO!  Let's put those RED STATES into play fellow democrats!  Obama won -10- red states, Hillary only won -4-.  OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA!

http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080206/NATION/476091143/1001
"The senator from Arizona beats the senator from New York in 14 of 17 head-to-head polls taken since Dec. 6, but he wins just five of 17 against the senator from Illinois over the same period. Analysts say Mrs. Clinton is so divisive that she would drive moderates and some independents to Mr. McCain. Mr. Obama, conversely, could draw from the pool of supporters who have delivered wins to Mr. McCain in a host of presidential primaries
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Thanks to First read we all can express our free and independent thoughts. Thanks first read for being here for all people with different opinions and affiliations.  
Also thanks to all who voted in Super Tuesday especially those who voted for their candidate despite all of the rhetoric written at first read and those awful on air pundits that asked you to give your vote to their candidate, because your candidate was not liberal or not conservative enough to win the nomination. Every citizen has the right to vote and express his or her desire for this country’s leadership, even if it is to vote for a Ralph Nader or some other minor candidate.
If you look at predictions prior to about a week ago, Hillary Clinton led most if not all of the states. CA, NY, MA were always hers to lose. Barack Obama was below 20% in Massachusetts, yet ends up winning about 41% of that state's vote. CA looks like it might end up being a 10% spread(for HRC) even though Barack Obama was so far behind a few weeks ago. He has improved his numbers amongst whites(men and women). His Latino #s have gone up. For someone who came from nowhere, Barack Obama has taken on a former first lady(wife of a popular ex-prez) and impressed me. HE WON IDAHO, ALASKA, AND UTAH FOR PETE'S SAKE(WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT).
GO OBAMA!

He's the only hope for the Dems in Nov.
Democrats in turmoil!!! Clinton gets the "crack" vote. Dems say brokered convention is on the horizon. Democrats frustrated with Clinton. Obama takes more delegates
Obama has more legislative experience than Hillary!  Hillary spent more time as lawyer in a large law firm than anything else then being a good wife to a Govenor and President being on boards for him.  She does not have the experence to be President nor the ability to control Bill if they are back in the White House.
i don't see any way that clinton can win in november - she is the most effective uniter in the country, unfortunately she unites republicans and leaves 50% of the democrats indifferent.  she will be lucky to get 2 or 3 republican votes nationwide and would do well to get 30% of indepenents against mccain.  so unless democrats turn out en massse and republicans stay home she will be creamed.  in addition she will face a constant resistance from the senate republicans and liebermans - think of a four year long filibuster.
You'll find it reported soon that it was EARLY VOTING that caused the Obama losses in California, Mass, and Arizona in particular.  These votes were mostly sent in before Obama's surge.

In California and Arizona, it's astounding how close Obama got considering how many early votes were cast!

Someone report that.  Give us the numbers who voted early in comparison to those cast yesterday.  You'll see an amazing story of how well Obama did on Super Tuesday.
By losing the two biggest and most diverse states in the nation (in a big way), it appears that Mr. Obama might have some major problems in the general election. ..Basically a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain in Nov.

RGO, California (Sent Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:01 AM)

I guess if you ignore the fact that Clinton was up by 20 points (30 in some places) a week or two ago in those states that Obama lost by 10 or 15, it is easy to justify your argument.
The white lady Arizona Governor did not do Obama much good either nor did that Stupid Claire McKaskill from Mo., Were it not for all of the African Americans in St. Louis he would not have won MO.  He only won by 1 point so virtually he tied, in fact Clinton may get more delagates than he does from MO. Obama really is no different than Jesse Jackson when he ran in 1984 and 1988 -
His lack of experience and Muslim ties plus the Louis Farrakhan,nation of Islam who Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright supports, Rezco and the present votes are just a few of the issues to be very concerned about him.
America is not that stupid , well you know young people 18 years old are that stupid, not just about him but many things.  They have just graduated high school and therein lies a lot of his support.
By losing the two biggest and most diverse states in the nation (in a big way), it appears that Mr. Obama might have some major problems in the general election. ..Basically a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain in Nov.
RGO, California (Sent Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:01 AM)


You know very well that is a load of spin.  Of course she won her OWN state of NY, not by as much as she should have though.

As for California... you know very well that millions of mail in ballots went out long ago when she had a massive lead.  Yet if you look at the numbers already reported, project out each precinct to 100% based on the current distribution (meaning no one gains or loses any ground) then you have:

Hillary Clinton: 2,162,719 - 55%
Barack Obama: 1,739,126 - 45%
John Edwards: 178,750 - 5%

Considering how far back he was just 2 weeks ago, he made up a TON of ground to counter the mail in ballots.  

And..

“There is no doubt … we hope and pray every night to run against Hillary Clinton,” - Ari Fleischer, on CNN last night.
How weird the psudo-intellectuals spout their analysis of what we all just saw with our own eyes. You would think that listening to all the polls being wrong and all the armchair "experts" predicting end results based on fuzzy logic that they would go away. The bottomline is, listen to all, then vote your heart. Take responsibility for your own feelings. A vote for A is not a vote for B.
I am really proud of all the support Senator Obama got on Super Tuesday! :)

Obama '08
Every "Underdog" candidate(from either party)for the last 50 years has used "Change" as their mantra, hoping that the ill-informed and mis-informed, idiotic Amercian Public would buy into it. If you want to talk about college and grad school accomplishments as the criteria for being ready for the presidency, it's hard to beat Hillary's record at Georgetown and Yale Law School. The truth is, Obama has not laid out one specific plan as to how he is going to, truly, IMPLEMENT his "Grand Touchy/Feely" philosophy; the reason being is that he knows he can't deliver. He didn't deliver as an Illinois Legislator, he hasn't delivered as a two-year senator, and he won't deliver as President. The thought of him even being in office scares me more than BUSH!!! However, nobody wants to say things like this for fear of being labelled a racist(which I am the farthest thing from, by the way, as I was involved in the civil rights movement as a young person in the 60's and I'm still a human rights activist). One more thing. I am appalled at how MSNBC, in particular, is so overt in their Pro-Obama stance. I mean, they might as well be his own personal electronic media campaign team. It's ridiculous and they put it right in our faces. WAKE UP AMERICA! I am also shocked at people like Chris Matthews, who was around and in his formative years when the true political giants like the Kennedy's and King were among us.  Anyone his age or mine(50's)that thinks that Obama even comes close to what those great leaders represented, either in rhetoric or action, is completely delusional. Hillary is the right person for the job. She is battle-tested, articulate, and compassionate, but tough when she needs to be. So, WAKE UP AMERICA, and stop "THE BEAST" (the 24-hour news machine) from influencing you because they feel they need a provocative story that they can endlessly spin to you.  
A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain. If Hillary wins the nomination the Republicans will win the general election. No more dynasties!
HILLARY IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH WASHINGTON!HILLARY IS THE QUEEN OF EARMARKS IN RETURN FOR CAMPAIGN DONATIONS.HILLARY THINKS LOBBYIST ARE A GOOD THING! THE BIG MONEY THAT COMES HER AND BILL,S WAY FROM WALL STREET. HILLARY WILL NOT CHANGE A THING ABOUT THE WAY WASHINGTON CONDUCTS ITSELF. HILLARY IS PART OF THE PROBLEM NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION!
GO BILLARY!!  As a Republican, I totally agree with Ari Fleicher - White Water, Pardongate, Travelgate, Filegate, Vince Foster, Lincoln bedroomgate, "I never had sex with that woman" (Talk about a fairy tale!!!), etc. etc.  Hilary makes claims that she was involved in EVERY aspect of Bill Clinton's presidential terms - BRING IT ON!!  We're gonna have a field day.
   So it is the uneducated, seniors, hispanics and women that gravitate to the Clinton camp most.  She panders, lies, spins and manufactures what they need to hear to keep them rounded up.  However, a movement is alive and well.  For the duration of this long campaign Obama was behind by double digits.  Imagine where Obama is compared to where most thought he'd be in December.  Of course he has momentum.  And with time the states coming up will be on his side.  They will have an vote that is more grounded and rational.  We know that voters, when better educated, support Obama.
(For an example of Hillary's lying tactics google Lorna Brett Howard and see why she switched from Hillary to Barack.)
To those who say Hillary's big states wins were decisive I would point out that the general consensus is that Obama will still get slightly more delegates primarily because his two big state wins, Illinois and Georgia, were by much bigger margins. So in spite of getting California and NY, Clinton's margin of victory in the popular vote was only .03%.

The Dems are in for a long ride.
The thing that impresses me about Hillary Clinton is that she stands on her own. That's the biggest news for me. For the past 2 weeks, Barak Obama has received large endorsements (ie. Kennedys, Kerry, Oprah, Hollywood stars) and they've campaigned for him. The media has covered it well and it's given Obama "a lot" of exposure.

Then there is just Hillary campaigning on her own with her husband and no big name endorsement campaigning for her. She stands on her own and delivers. What strength! It's the type of thing I admire about her. She doesn't need a gang to back her up.

With all that said, she won the big states. All those endorsements did not deliver for Obama. The most embarrassing of them all is Massachusetts. Wow! The governor, 2 state senators and the Kennedy name could not deliver the state? Please spare me the spin of how she led in polls. Obama was endorsed for over a week, enough time to turn the state over to him.

Finally, the argument of red states and blue states. I remember Joe and some others last night picking on McCain because he won "blue states", states that he most likely will not be able to deliver in November. Can Obama and his supporters not say the same about the "red states" he won? Can he as John McCain deliver these states that are not considered swing states? I think not. Do I think Hillary could deliver “red states”? No, I don’t. So please spare us the baseless points about Obama and McCain making swing states of solid red and blue states.
Obama can not even win the blue states on his own. What does that tell us? Red states are red for some reason, they have more Republicans. They are not turning out because they are confused right now. Come election day, electoral votes will take away the red states.

But without Hillary, we can not win the Blue States. If you see the map of how states are divided , Hillary won all the states we as Democrats win. It is essenstial to have a following in those states or we will make one of those a tossup and then lose electoral votes and white house.
By moving into first place in the delegate count (plus super delegates), Clinton won a minor victory; but winning the battle doesn't win the war.  Obama picked up numerous small States that Clinton did not campaign in, and he also managed to win razor thin victories in MO and CT.  His support seems to have peaked, showing the same strength over the past several weeks.  The good news for him is this support appears on par with Clinton, and he's raising more money.  The bad news for him is that his extra cash won't really help since there is no more "Super" any-day.  When WA, NE, and LA caucus, both candidates will have enough money and then some.  When VA, MD, and DC poll, that's flat out one single television region.  So Obama's money advantage came a week too late.  Still, he won't complain.  Obama NEEDS to do well the next few weeks, because Clinton's firewall of Texas and its large hispanic vote looms a month away, and Obama is not doing well at all with that voting block.

For the republicans, their system is set up to crush the minority vote.  Thus, even if McCain won CA by 1%, he still wins everything.  Majority rules supreme.  Yet, despite the winner-take-all system, Romney leaves the day with 200+ delegates and Huckabee with close to the same amount.  There is DEEP division in the Republican party considering that their primary was still split.  It will be interesting to see how much traction Huckabee gains now.  If conservatives now back Huckabee as a viable contender, McCain may stumble.  And if neither pick up 50%, Romney becomes a major power broker.

As for tone, the democrats like both their candidates.  If the debates stay civil (and they show every intention of adhering to that idea), then consolidation will be immediate once a winner is declared, even if it was only with 51% of the vote.  With the republicans, things are much more rancorous.  While Huckabee has alligned himself with McCain to date, he may have thought VP would be nice.  NOW, he may not be so nice as he is widely percieved (suddenly) as the real conservative option.  And Romney hates both of them.  Things have the potential of getting ugly here, much more so than on the democrat side.
I'm not so sure that the Kennedy's or "Oprah" didn't help.  Obama was down 20+ points in 20 states and had a little more than a week to turn it around.  As Hillary loves to say she's been out there for ever.  This guy won the majority of those states in which he had no name recognition over an institution.  The closer the final total the more delegates you get.

BTW Obama won by 33& in Il, Hillary won in NY by only 17%.  Any democrat will carry NY CA MA and NJ in the GE but who can make middle America competitive.  He is picking up Lation votes, she is losing AA votes (big time)  Who is a better candidate in the GE
I agree with jaycee, RobK and JohnnyU.
Voting for Hillary is voting for John McCain. But even if she were to win in the general election, how different than McCain is she on the Iraqi war? How different than McCain is she on the Next War, the Iran war? She already voted to authorize the Iran war, and so did McCain.
Colleen, that quote was from Bill Clinton in 92. Look it up.
All this blathering about nothing. The Clintons will be in the White House again and if she chooses Obama as her running mate, he will then have his time in the spotlight. He has not yet paid his dues. OLDER folks know what this means.
San Francisco Voter: since when is winning not winning? I am not sure what your point is that the reason she won is the gap of Latinos and Asians - she won.

I am not sure anyone is trumpeting NY - but I do think that MA, CA, and NJ were big wins for her as she was starting to be counted out by the press. The wins in those sates (particulary in MA with 2 senators and a governor endorsing Obama) were big.

Who cares that they will be Dem wins in November. Obama's wins in Red states won't turn to Dem wins in November no matter who the nominee is.
"Yes, Obama may have won more states than Hillary, but she won more delegates, and the states Obama won in, for the most part, were states with high black dem. voters.  But for the black vote, Obama would not be news anymore."

Alaska. Connecticut. Colorado. Idaho. Iowa. Kansas. Minnesota. North Dakota. Utah. Perhaps New Mexico. Are you serious?
Well now, this statistical dead heat ought to get things fired up as the process moves along.  Do the candidates remain pleasant and cordial?  Do they attack each other like pit vipers?  We shall see, as a nation we shall see...
Hillary Clinton’s been accused of a lot of things, but being stupid isn’t usually among the list.  Everyone makes some mistakes, it’s only making the same mistake twice that’s really stupid. I think Hillary learned her lesson about going negative on race in South Carolina. Her slide stopped when she stopped doing that and I think she realizes that.  So whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee, I really don’t think the Democratic Party is going to be broken in two by it.  But for all of you who were listening to the Republican pundits praying for Hillary to run against John McCain because they think she’s so easy to beat, I have to remind you that the Democrats were praying for Ronald Reagan to win the nomination in his day because they thought the same thing.  Be careful what you wish for.  And for all of you who feel that the independents will run to John McCain away from Hillary if Obama is not the nominee, I have two sentences for you - direct quotes from John McCain: “We will be in Iraq for 100 years.”  And:  “My friends, there will be more wars and more wars and more wars.”  Yeah, that sounds like a real winning argument for independents and crossover Democrats to me.
Hillary Clinton’s been accused of a lot of things, but being stupid isn’t usually among the list.  Everyone makes some mistakes, it’s only making the same mistake twice that’s really stupid. I think Hillary learned her lesson about going negative on race in South Carolina. Her slide stopped when she stopped doing that and I think she realizes that.  So whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee, I really don’t think the Democratic Party is going to be broken in two by it.  But for all of you who were listening to the Republican pundits praying for Hillary to run against John McCain because they think she’s so easy to beat, I have to remind you that the Democrats were praying for Ronald Reagan to win the nomination in his day because they thought the same thing.  Be careful what you wish for.  And for all of you who feel that the independents will run to John McCain away from Hillary if Obama is not the nominee, I have two sentences for you - direct quotes from John McCain: “We will be in Iraq for 100 years.”  And:  “My friends, there will be more wars and more wars and more wars.”  Yeah, that sounds like a real winning argument for independents and crossover Democrats to me.


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