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More oh-eight (D): Hillary's $5 mil loan

Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:09 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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Apparently, the DNC is urging the two states whose delegates were wiped off the convention delegate map (Florida and Michigan) to hold new elections. Obviously, without a state sanctioned primary, this would mean the two state parties holding either caucuses or conventions to elect their delegates.

Caucuses, in general, have favored Obama but with so many delegates at stake, showdowns in these two states would become huge.

CLINTON: The cover of the New York Post: “No wonder she cried… HILL’S $5M LOAN.” “The moves were revealed as Clinton and Barack Obama hunkered down for a war of attrition for the Democratic nomination after Super Tuesday failed to crown a winner. And a series of contests in the coming weeks seem likely to favor the Illinois senator.”

The Clinton campaign points out it ‘had one of our best fundraising efforts ever on the web today,’ spokesman Howard Wolfson said.” 
 
Per NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, “Sources say Clinton’s campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle spent too much in Iowa -- and ended up losing anyway. One big payout -- $4 million dollars to top strategist Mark Penn. Aides say after losing Iowa, Clinton found out about the money problems, which explains why she suddenly gave up her expensive private jet and started riding with the press. She tried to make a joke of it - at the time… But, for a candidate, there’s nothing funny about being short of cash just as the race is accelerating. Now she has to pick where to spend scarce resources.”

And as Mitchell also reported, some Clinton campaign staffers have voluntarily chosen to work without pay this month, as the campaign faces a cash crunch against Obama, who outraised her in January by a wide margin. Those working for free include Campaign Manager Patti Solis Doyle.

The Clinton campaign, meanwhile, sent around a dispatch from pro-Clinton blogger Taylor Marsh, who reports that the Clinton camp met its three-day goal of raising $3 million, and will issue a challenge of raising $6 million over the next 72 hours.

OBAMA: Per the Obama campaign Web site, as of last night at 6:25 pm, the campaign had raised $6.8 million since polls closed on Super Tuesday.

On the day that Hillary Clinton's campaign announced that the candidate had loaned herself $5 million in late January, the Obama campaign is using that fact to solicit even more funds from their own donors, NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan reports.  "The Clinton campaign just announced that Hillary and Bill Clinton injected $5 million of their personal fortune into her campaign a few days ago. This is a dramatic move, and a clear acknowledgment that our campaign has the momentum," Obama manager David Plouffe writes in an email.
 
Plouffe goes on to ask that supporters donate to match the Clinton "infusion" of cash which he claims could go up to $20 million dollars and "will give them a huge resources for the next set of primaries and caucuses."

So why can't Obama close the deal when momentum is at his back? The New York Times’ Nagourney wonders about this today. “[O]ne of the most intriguing finding in the surveys of voters leaving the polls across the nation on Tuesday was when they arrived at their final decision. Throughout a week when Mr. Obama was campaigning with members of the Kennedy family, when there was a sense that he was creating a movement that cut across racial and generational lines, there was a steady movement of Democrats toward Mr. Obama, the survey suggested. But those who reported making their decision on the last day bucked the trend, tending to vote for Mrs. Clinton, of New York. Mr. Obama more than held his own against Mrs. Clinton: he won more states and may well have won more delegates, once all of them, including those from caucus states, are officially allocated.”

“But once again -- as in New Hampshire -- the result on Tuesday did not match the fervor that had been signaled by Mr. Obama’s dramatic march of rallies across the nation leading up to the vote. In that dynamic rests one of the central questions about the Obama candidacy, which may well go the heart of whether he can win the presidency. Is this campaign a series of surges of enthusiasm, often powered by the younger voters who form long lines waiting to hear Mr. Obama speak, that set expectations that are not met at the voting booth?”

“Or is it rather a slow-building force, one that despite faltering in New Hampshire and falling short on Tuesday in big states like California has allowed Mr. Obama to battle one of the most formidable political dynasties to a draw and will eventually propel him to victory?" 

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All the Clintons' self-funding has done is energized Obama's supporters, who know he doesn't have the same resources. (Apparently, he's doesn't have a secret Kazakhstan fund like they do.) As of 6:30 am Pacific Time Thursday, Obama's supporters have donated $7 million... and counting.
"Or is it rather a slow-building force..."

Of course it is, and one that has seen exponential growth over the past few months and continues to grow. To think otherwise is buy into the nonsensical talking point that Clinton is an underdog of some sort.
Seem's to be that Mark Penn is way OVERPAID ! Money problem's also point to evidence that Hillary is Only for Herself.My Money, is how she described it yesterday! HMMMMMMMMM! She is Not able to make the sale to Big donor's Now. Barack has taken the Torch & is running ( like the Olympic's)from state to state, energizing voter's to take back our Country from the very people who had backed Hillary.At this point, the People are winning, but how long will it last!

Look for John Edwards to Endorse after Louisiana vote's this saturday.I honestly think that America is showing everyday, that we're sick & tired of Bush'es & Clinton's in OUR HOUSE.

It will be interesting to see if the Women, who want Hillary in the Whitehouse, will open up thier  Purse's & contribute.Put your $$$ where your mouth is!
start counting the sheets of Toilet paper Mrs clinton

this whole set up was designed to favor you

now your caculations have failed

dropp out gracefully Mrs Clinton

you would rather fracture the paRTY THAN LOSE

thats how i know this race is about you not the people

But Obama this race is about the people

go away HRC america does not need you
Holding new primaries in Michigan and Florida would be a pretty dramatic curveball. I would welcome the opportunity to cast a vote for my actual choice of candidate, rather than choosing between Clinton, Kucinich, and "Undecided". It would also be nice to see their respective organizations scramble to campaign in two states around which they've had to tiptoe in this election cycle. With that said, I'm not familiar enough with the election laws governing primaries to know if it's possible, but if it is, can Michigan even afford to hold another election? Things aren't exactly flush around here.
Interesting. I recall my wife noting in the days just prior to Iowa that Hillary's demeanor was becoming a little arrogant. Kinda makes sense now, comes into focus. They thought they had it clinched then. We hear that Mitt has SPENT his own money to stay in the race, Hillary has LOANED herself the cash. Does this mean she'll pay herself back? From what source? We heard just a short time ago that McCain was broke. Where's his money coming from now? Just curious. Maybe Oregon has it right with publicly funded elections.
Bet she shed some real tears as she was writing the check!

Why would the Clinton campaign send out a dispatch from Taylor Marsh? That seems like a stupid way of letting people know how much money you have raised.  And if you go to the Marsh link, it is called an "unverified email".

Not sure that is overwhelming evidence worthy of  NBC.  I figure the Clintons did not raise that much and won't say anything because they are bound to raise much more than that over the course of the month. They will let the story take hold without having to provide any proof and a legend is born.  

If you can provide some real evidence, please post it.
The fact that she allowed Mark Penn to  be her top adviser shows to me that she does not mind having a corrupt, greedy stragetist. To be paid $4 million -- if it turns out -- is so much for a political adviser. I fear that if Hillary wins, she does not mind stuffing her cabinet with greedy, ex-corporate agents who care more about money than the needs of the American people. It also illustrates Hillary's poor organizational skills, and it seems to me that she aims to win the presidency for her own benefit/legacy than to run a corruption-free America.
HILLARY SUPPORTERS be part of the solution, the future, and change for the better...consider contributing to Hillary's campaign at www.hillaryclinton.com.......ready on day one!
Well, it's true that all the excited children and teenagers that I saw at the Obama rally may not be able to translate into a vote of their own, but I the sight of them sure motivated me and I imagine will continue to drive this "slow-building force" as he moves through the next 27 states.  
What happened to her experience?  She has been part of numerous campaigns and she still budgeted this one poorly.  She raised more money in all of 2007 and had more on hand than Obama.  Seems like she made some very unwise financial choices.  This doesn't point to being ready on day one.  Fiscal responsibility is an important part of the job as President.
$Hillary$ to George Bush..Pardon all my friends I need cash..lmao
Merle...
H P Boston....

Time to take out that second and third mortgage on your houses...

Time to garnish 80% of your wages.....

Time to sell off all your stocks and bonds.....

Time to cash in all your insurance policies....

and help The Clinton's......

The Clinton's made all that money from the deals in Russia and they still don't have enough money....
Clinton had large donors early. Obama will also hit the bottom of the money pit. Remember, people said his surge came on late. And, let's not forget that he had some significant endorsements recently that probably also brought some large amounts of money from those individuals. And, of course, he has access to Oprah's bottomless money pit. Instead of assuming the Clinton campaign was broke, could it be possible they needed the funding for future expenses that had to be paid at the time?
I guess those 35 years of experience qualify her to manage the economy, but not her own campaign finances. Is she going to use her personal fortune to prevent budget deficits?
If Hillary can’t balance her own campaign’s budget, how is she going to balance this country’s? Unless she intends on loaning us 500 billion dollars to pay for the war she voted for, then she has no business running this country.
The Clitons are up to something. This all seems too suspicious. We all know that Hillary was the frontrunner for this race on day one. If she thinks she can fool the voters into believing that she is the underdog, then she's got another thing coming.
Its obvious there is alot of media hype for Obama that quesions the ethics of some journalists today.  The news should be reported and the voters be allowed to get information from the media and be allowed to arrive at their own voting decision.
It appears that is what is happening.  Hillary is still in the race and is leading Obama in delegattes.
CNN stated that she has more delegates,its on CNN's website.  .
    Senator Obama is only fooling himself with these rallies at colleges and bringing Oprah and other celeberties.
    Media hype, celeberties and students appearing at rallies that are a five minute stroll from their classes doesn't turn into votes.
    The message Obama is sending is that he can't make it on his own without media hype and Oprah.  His not wanting to debate Senator Clinton shows a man lacking sellf confidence in his own ability to do the job.
    The media shelters him from standing on his own two feet.
    You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people all of the time.
Bet she shed some real tears as she was writing the check!

DCortez, Houston, Texas


Notice it was a loan. The interest rates she's charging would probably make a loan shark blush.
I don't understand when some of the articles state that the Obama fervor fell short.  How do they determine that?  The very fact that he went toe to toe with the Clintons is proof that Obama & his supports are a movement.  He didn't win California b/c half of the ballots had been sent in 1month prior to Tuesday.  But he still came within 10points of her win there.  So imagine what it would of been if there was a caucus or polling only on Tuesday.
Doesn't this deserve it's own article in First Read:

Obama has raised a record breaking $7.4 M and counting online at barackobama.com since polls closed on Super Tuesday!

He won more states, more red states, more delegates, and is now breaking fundraising records... looks like previous Hillary supporters are jumping onto his bandwagon.  His momentum is sweeping across the country!
Democrats reading these posts .... be suspicious of any posts that state vote Hillary and you get President McCain, or otherwise try to divide the Democratic party...they are most likely from republicans engaging in typical Karl Rove politics.
" ...$4 million dollars to top strategist Mark Penn."
" ...some Clinton campaign staffers have voluntarily chosen to work without pay this month ..."
--Fmr. Sen. J. Edwards talked about 'Two Americas.'  Clearly the Clinton campaign talks about 'Two Campaigns.'  Hardly jives with the Democratic message.

--Funny, Mark Penn must not believe in her campaign enough to ...  No wonder John McCain has no pollster, no wonder he's doing fine.



"So why can't Obama close the deal when momentum is at his back?"
--Two major reasons that I can see.  First answer: women.  What a year to have the first woman and first black, two groups that mean much to the Democratic voting populous.  But they are competing, and people will choose the one that means more to them.  Sen. H.R. Clinton has not closed the deal despite her many chances.
--Second answer: Clinton dynasty.  What a unique situation for a party challenger to essentially compete against the relatively popular Fmr. Pres. W.J. Clinton.  For something that objectively seems nearly impossible, Sen. B.H. Obama is actually quite impressive, which demonstrates the appetite for change--a change that only Obama offers.
The Clintons will do or say anything to win. They have no shame. She is the most untrustworthy politician in the country. Romney is next. Wake-up America dont fall for it.  Ask yourself why any one would want to be president that bad, as to spend their personal resources? On another note, she plays dirty, How dare she go back on a pledge not to include MI and Flordia in the primary. She is a dirty, lying, cheating, lowdown politician. (Even worse than Richard Nixon)
I think we will find that the obama campaign is burning through cash at the same or higher rate...at least hillary has the guts to put her money where her mouth is, obama is suckering you into paying for all of his yapping and cheerleading...
Just seems if all the money donated to the various candidates was put to good use, we could resolve a goodly number of societal ills.  And this is only the primary/caucus season.  They'll be a coming after our wallets again after the conventions.  Ah, the political process, dont'cha just love it!!
With reference to the poster who wanted to see if Democratic women would put their money where their mouth was - this one has.  I've donated, happily, to Senator Barack Obama's campaign, with my second donation coming last night.  

I'm not rich, and there's no way that I'll come even remotely near the $2,300 limit that almost half of Senator Clinton's rich supporters gave.  But this is the beauty and strength of the Obama campaign; that thousands upon thousands of people including working class Americans, college students, and retirees have and will give whatever they can spare to support this once in a generation candidate who makes them believe in themselves and their country, and gives a chance for hope.

I'm tired of my country being divided.  I'm tired of my country being reviled abroad.  Twenty years of Bush-Clinton partisan politics has more than hammered home the fact that the established politicos can't get it done.  Can we change this?  YES, WE CAN!
For someone who "claims" to be economically savy, she sure is borrowing a lot of money.

Compare that to Obama's approach: "Spending within your means"

If you can't run your own campaign which is scaled in the Millions, How in the hell are you going to run a econcmy scaled in the TRILLIONS???

Will someone please try to answer that?? Please?
Her experience got her $100 million from oil and drug company lobbyists and it got her a massive lead amongst superdelegates because the Clintons basically went to everyone early last year and said in effect, "you're either with us or with the terrorists."

How that unctuous slimy Mark Penn can come out today and claim she's the underdog shows just how disgusting and disingenuous he is (I think even Hillary supporters agree with this statement).  As an article in Rolling Stone said last year, "he's a fatter more disgusting Karl Rove."
Pam, you wrote
Its obvious there is alot of media hype for Obama that quesions the ethics of some journalists today.  The news should be reported and the voters be allowed to get information from the media and be allowed to arrive at their own voting decision.
It appears that is what is happening.  Hillary is still in the race and is leading Obama in delegattes.
CNN stated that she has more delegates,its on CNN's website.  .
   Senator Obama is only fooling himself with these rallies at colleges and bringing Oprah and other celeberties.
   Media hype, celeberties and students appearing at rallies that are a five minute stroll from their classes doesn't turn into votes.
   The message Obama is sending is that he can't make it on his own without media hype and Oprah.  His not wanting to debate Senator Clinton shows a man lacking sellf confidence in his own ability to do the job.
   The media shelters him from standing on his own two feet.
   You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people all of the time.
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First of all CNN is includeing the "auperdelegates".  Those are not pledged or even committed to Hillary or Barack for that matter.  They can change in a minutes notice.  And do you really think that these politicians won't change to suit their best interest?
Second he has debated over 18 times and for your information he is better than Hillary in the debates.  But why should he give her free air time, when she can not afford to buy airtime.  That is what all of this debate talk is about.
It's no wonder she's broke. Her campaign spent/wasted an obscene amount of money in Iowa. I was shocked to find out that she actually had to pay "local" people who were in her print ads claiming to support her. Sarah Jankeweitz appeared on all sorts of Clinton print literature that was mass mailed. Turns out at her caucus site (CR-41), she was actually an Edwards supporter, and she and her children were paid, like any other "model" would be. Having to pay someone to be in a print literature piece is unheard of in Iowa. When "actors" are hired for commercials, it is a story. No one thought to question Sarah's support of Hillary, but there were a lot of surprised people caucus night at Washington HS.
Pat you wrote:
Democrats reading these posts .... be suspicious of any posts that state vote Hillary and you get President McCain, or otherwise try to divide the Democratic party...they are most likely from republicans engaging in typical Karl Rove politics.
pat huntington ny (Sent Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:34 AM)

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I am a life long dem and I completely agree that Hillary will lose the GE in Nov.  I base this on the fact that she is the only possible way that the GOP will be united.  Also she will not be able to pull the independents and moderiate into the dem category, those will all go to McCain.  If Hillary is the nominee, then McCain will get the Christian Wign (which will otherwise sit out in protest) and also get the moderates, therefore he will win.
"I have a million ideas. The country can't afford them all." - Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2007

And we want to give her control of the country?  She can't even afford her campaign.
Seems to me all of you Obama supporters should be real careful of his message as all it states is that he wants change but change from what he has no real ideas. We just had 8 years of non experience in the White House I am not ready for at the least 4 more.
And the media sure has been doing more than hyping Obama they have been practically campaiging for him. No wonder many journalists get a bad name, they don't really report the story they spin it around and around.
All Right!! Kim from FL ... and Amen !!  There is a woman like you right here ... sent my second donation ($50) today ... just a senior lady on a fixed income ... but it all counts ... it all adds up ... and this country desperately needs inspiration and motivation!!  Yes, Hope and Belief in Ourselves ... you put it so well.
I love the Obama supporters who say he is "sweeping the nation". He won smaller states, caucus states, no battleground states. They split delegates and popular votes down the middle, give or take a few. The party likes them both and is torn.but the reliable, core of the democratic party votes and it votes for her. She appeals to the working class, women, and latins who VOTE. The tidal wave that wasn't is Obama. Hillary raised 13-14 million in Jnauary and that is an incredible amount. He raised more--he hasn't tapped out big donors and she has. She hasn't been tapping the $100 donors--many of whom assume she doesn't need the money and any candidate does. Her finances will be morethan enough to propel her to victory in Tx, Ohio and Pa which don't favor Obama. Still no-one will have the majority. Get ready everyone-a deal will be struck.
I'm sure the RNC would love to lend her any amount, since they know they can swiftboat her more easily than they can Obama. They know who can beat them and who can't, so they're probably forming Republicans for Hillary right now.
If Obama's so great, why is he afraid to debate Hillary?  She's has two disasterous debates but is still willing to put up. He should too, or shut up.   All Obama's done is hold star-studded rallies where he doesn't even take questions.  And 3/4 of the states he's won weren't even primaries, but caucuses which are not at all representative of the population and totally undemocratic.  How many of us have several hours to travel miles from home to be pressured in front of others to vote for a particular person instead of making up our minds in private as the founders intended?
Clinton is about to get run over by the Obama train !

She will be done in another month ( THANK GOD )
"So why can't Obama close the deal when momentum is at his back? The New York Times’ Nagourney wonders about this today"

The answer is one word out of three. The press may not want to go there or even deliberately not talk about it- but it is called

"HUSSEIN" factor as in Barack Hussein Obama.
you can hide it cover it up and not talk about it and ignore it and hope it will be not an issue but let me tell you when republicans come after this with daggers and spears if Barack Hussein is the nominee,,, all bets are off and it will be too late for the dems.

Sorry just telling the truth the way it is. I am not a political pundit or anything but just a realist.

Gloria Brodger on CNN says nothing will ignite the republicans more than Hillary Clintons nomination- ha haa sure she will that is a given we all know that but that may be small potatoes compared to reverent explosion from the so called pseudo patriotic republicans conservatives going after Muslim born Barack Hussein Obama even though he is now a Christian.

What happens when the Republicans starts to demand to see Barack Hussein Obama’s birth certificate??
Does it seem strange to anyone else that Hillary, not the Clintons, not Bill and I, lent the campaign 5 million dollars?  It seems most married couple would have their finances together.  Could this be an indication to revealing thier true relatinship.  A political LLC.  
Hillary is going to lose to Obama.  

1st - She will do anything to "WIN"
2nd - She will go in Debt to "WIN"
3rd - She is a liar.
4th - She is Lowdown and Dirty.
5th - She has lost her voice.
6th - She is not exciting anymore.
7th - She is guilty of running a dirty campaign
Bill and Hillary against Obama.
8th - She has no respect for the American people.
9th - She only cares about people with money, the ones she can buy.
10th - She has run out of money.
If this becomes a trend, and I'm sure it will in the next two months, will the Clintons have to fully disclose the source of their personal savings?  I don't think Bill or Hillary have ever been in a position to earn the $20-$50 million that they are estimated to be worth.  Sure, they've had a couple book deals and some speaking engagements - but earnings from those sources might come to $10 million at the end of the day, but no more than that.  So where did all this other money come from??  Are they taking money from Bill's library fund? Foreign governments..?  Powerful friends?  I for one would like to see a detailed disclosre of their personal wealth and how they earned it.  I don't trust the Clintons for a minute!
Sen. Obama's campaign averages $200 per individual, which means he can still tap those donors for $2100 more dollars.
Most of Sen. Clinton's donors have already hit the legal limit of $2300. Only 14% of her donations average $200 or lower.
Also, to suggest that Sen. Obama underperformed in CA is ridiculous. A full half of CA's voters vote absentee. I know tons of people who regretted putting that ballot in the mail too early. He came within 10 points in a state that she had sewn up. Sen. Clinton has name recognition and time on her side. The more time Sen. Obama has in a state, the better he performs on election day.  
If you can't manage your own campaign for president - you can't manage the largest economy in the world.  This is just the tip of the iceberg - she's Jimmy Carter in drag.  Obama is our only hope.
Just donated another$100....

GOBAMA!!!!!
Hearing the news that Hillary "loaned" her campaign $5 million made me think of one thing. I go to work every day, struggle to pay my mortgage and other bills and still have something leftover for extras.  How can a woman who has the ability to write herself a $5 million check POSSIBLY relate to me?
The $5 million dollars was a loan to her own campaign, meaning she intends for her own campaign to pay herself back. Does this mean whoever is donating to her is essentially donating for Hillary's ability to pay herself back?
I am a loyal democrat. I want us to beat the republicans. Sometimes, when I can, I give a small donation to the party. Usually I am emailed by Howard Dean. I remember Mr. Dean from when he was a populist candidate in the last election and I respect his judgment and integrity. Today, and I believe yesterday, and the day before as well Mr. Dean asked me to donate to help fight John McCain. I believe that this is a necessary battle that all democrats must participate in, from all states. I want to make this donation, I really do. That is why I am going to give Mr. Dean and the DNC my donation, but not without a condition that I believe should be met. I am going to tell the DNC that I will donate $10 (which is all I am able to at this time) only after the DNC has announced that the delegates from Florida and Michigan have been seated. I believe it is only fair that if we help the DNC, then the DNC should help us too. They say they want to run a 50 State campaign, right on their website. There website is http://www.democrats.org/. I think we should hold them to their promise to our party. So I call upon all of you who read my post to pass it along and email or call Mr. Dean and the DNC and pledge your donation to fight John McCain and the republican party, but only after the Florida and Michigan delegates have been seated. If you are able to donate more money, then pledge more money, (lots of money if you have it, it is for a good cause) but let him know that your donation comes with a price. Show him what it will cost him to cast aside these voters in Florida and Michigan who are loyal party members. These people's voices must be heard, they are part of our party and the future of our party. Donate to make sure that we are the party of all the people. Here is a link for you to tell Mr. Dean to seat the delegates if he wants your support.
http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman
Or you can call the DNC number for problems or questions about contributions and tell them about you dilemma. That number is 877-336-7200.


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