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Domenico Montanaro, NBC News Political Reporter



Clinton vs. Obama

Posted: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:14 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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CLINTON vs. OBAMA.
“A day after Super Tuesday's 22-state battle for 1,681 delegates, updated delegate counts indicated Obama ran roughly even with Clinton in the one-day contest, a strong outcome for him given that she had long been favored to win. With each candidate drawing support from broad constituencies, the 13 contests over the next month may do nothing to resolve the standoff.”

Obama's campaign seems more prepared for this next week of primaries and caucuses than Clinton’s. For instance, the Obama camp already has a schedule for this next week; Clinton’s doesn't yet. "The two candidates planned to campaign in Washington, Maine and Virginia in the coming days; Mr. Obama was traveling to Louisiana on Wednesday evening, and Clinton advisers said they expected Mrs. Clinton to campaign there, too." Of course, this may explain why. "One Clinton adviser explained the focus on March 4 this way: ‘There’s a chance we may not win a single primary or caucus in February, so we’re banking on Ohio and Texas.’”

More: "Clinton advisers -- who said Mrs. Clinton was willing to contribute more money if need be -- cited a number of factors for the loan: the high expenses in the coming weeks, especially in Ohio and Texas, and a desire not to be outspent by Mr. Obama on television. The Clinton campaign will have advertisements starting Thursday in Louisiana, Maine, Nebraska and Washington. The Obama camp, meanwhile, is advertising in all of the upcoming states and just went on the air in Wisconsin."

Should Obama be threatening superdelegates? Is this the way to woo them?

By the way, who is the front-runner? The candidate with all the historic clout or the candidate with all the cash?

The Clinton campaign doesn’t believe there have been enough debates this cycle… Campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle just sent this letter to Obama manager David Plouffe. “I was disappointed to see that Senator Obama rejected the idea of having more debates given the fact that he and Senators Clinton have had only a single one-on-one debate.  I think we can do better and so does Hillary,” she wrote. Senator Clinton believes voters should have more than one opportunity to see the candidates discuss the issues and has accepted five debates between now and March 4th from CNN, MSNBC, WJLA, ABC and Fox News. To that end, we hope Senator Obama will join Senator Clinton for a debate a week beginning this weekend.  I'm sure we can find a suitable place to meet on the campaign trail.  There's too much at stake and the issues facing the country are too grave to deny voters the opportunity to see the candidates up close.”

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Antony: COULD THE KENYAN CRISIS BE REPLICATED IN USA

What is the connection between the US and Kenya here? This is precisely the politics of 'fear mongering' that this country can do without. Please let the good people of America debate serious issues without bringing confusion through ill-advised analysis of situations you clearly don't have a full understanding of. For some of us who have lived the current situation in Kenya, this is an insult. There is absolutely no comparison whatsover between the way elections are conducted in the USA and the situation you are trying to draw parallels to!!
Democrats reading these posts .... be suspicious of any posts that state vote Hillary and you get President McCain, or otherwise try to divide the Democratic party...they are most likely from republicans engaging in typical Karl Rove politics.  
Given that the race for delegates is going to be so close and MI and FL will become a messy issue as we get closer to the convention, why don't we nip that controversy in the bud now and allow those states to reschedule legitimate primaries for, say, April?  That way, those voters will be allowed to have their votes count AFTER a fair vote is conducted with both candidates on the ballot and both candidates given a chance to campaign.  The DNC should consider this before the argument over MI and FL becomes a huge problem for the party.
I'm an Obama supporter but that comment about the Super Delegates being hand picked by Dean to support Clinton is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Terry MacAulife and the Clintons did everything they could in 2004 to make sure Dean wasn't the nominee.
Whoever invented this? "Super"delegate's indeed! Our election system is arcane and disenfranchising.  Oh for a clear majority to help stop the ole wheels from turning, turning, turning.

Obama 08
By my count there have been 18 debates so far. The most in history for a nomination contest. Having worked on campaigns I can tell you that debate prep and the debate itself is a time-consuming process that eats up an entire day and ultimately only confirms what people already liked or disliked about you. Of course Hillary wants debates. Obama has been up on TV in all the states after Super Tuesday while Hillary just made her first ad buy in LA, ME, NE and WA (which vote this weekend). Look at the schedule. Seven states all over the country are voting in the next 5 days. When exactly would a potomac area debate take place?
Why bother having more debates if they are going to be full of superficial questions, phony controversies and "gotcha" questions from the interviewers. Focusing on whatever tempest-in-a-teapot has been in in the news the previous week is not the way to structure an informative debate.
What better way to allow someone to get to know Obama?  How about walking up and shaking his hand? How about going to see him in person when he comes to a city near you? Obama is willing to travel to meet the people he wants to have vote. He is not necessarily against the idea of more debates, he is just against the schedule the Clinton campaign wants to dictate. The Obama Campaign even openly admitted that there is the possibility that there could be at least one more debate. But in a campaign where the issues don't matter, debating does nothing to further clarify the waters. They favor the candidate that can produce the best sound bites. Policies are never best represented in sound javascript:{if (typeof(Page_ClientValidate) != 'function' ||  Page_ClientValidate()) __doPostBack('_ctl0$_$_ctl0$_$_ctl0$_$form$_$btnSubmit','')}
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Brady, where did you get your information? Superdelagates are senators, congressmen, mayors, governors, etc. They are handpicked by the american people not Howard Dean. Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton are not friends. The Clintons did their best to derail Dean's run for president. Did you just completely make it all up out of thin air? If not I'd like to know who is putting out this dis-information.
Obama better put down his own kool aid, and think twice before he continues whining about whether super delegates should support their state or district.

First it sounds very "politics as usual" which I am sure will come as a surprise to his fans.

But more importantly, it looks like if the superdelegates did go the way their states and districts voted it would help Clinton much more than him - among other things I guess he would have to give up Kennedy, Kerry, and Duval Patrick.

He won little states with few super delegates and Hillary won the big ones with lots of super delegates - this trend will continue into the next rounds (OH, PA, TX will go to Clinton) - and would be even worse for him if you count FL and MI.
THE EXPERIENCE FACTOR:
Senator Clinton has based her campaign on an erroneous claim to greater legislative and administrative experience.Former Pres.Clinton talks up his wife's role in his administration on the campaign trail but pointedly refuses to release any documents that would provide greater details on her actual activities there. It is broadly understood that Hillary spearheaded the response team that staved off Republican attacks and spun the many scandals of the Clinton years. As to her Sen ate record, no one in the press has had the diligence to lay out her record for the public to assess.


Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.


1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.


Only five of Clinton's bills are more substantive.


16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.


There you have it, the facts straight from the Senate Record.


Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced


233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.


His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparen cy Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.












First of all California and New York alone can't win dems the Whitehouse. YES they need a few red states. Hillary will not win any red states including AR if Mike Huckabee is the VP for McCain.
Independent vote is critical in this election. Hillary will not get the independent vote.She will NOT get the black vote. Hispanics are a non- factor in the General election. They tend to vote republican anyway.
I live in a red state and most Republicans are willing to vote for Obama against McCain but they will not vote for Hillary. She needs to quit this race while she could do it in a dignified manner, otherwise we will have another Republican in the Whitehouse for the next 4-8 years.
Pipe down Hilliary on the dabates. Why should Obama agree to a debate a week. You stupid fool! You dont have money to take your message directly to the people so you want to control how Obama gets his message out by bogging him down in some meaningless debates with you. Go raise some money and hit the streets and talk or (cry) to the people and get your message out. You debate suggestion is an insult to Obama. You foolish woman.
Clinton may be running out of money, but at least she's doing it the appropriate way. I know for a fact because i'm in the entertainment business that oprah has given him his little money that he is gloating all about !!!!!!!!!!!
The Super Delegate thing is concerning.....As I think there are some real issues...

#1 If Hillary wins less states but wins the Nomination by "Stealing" Florida and Michigan - how is this perceived by the American People?

#2 I don't see an Obama Clinton Ticket as it's too much change on 1 ticket compared to a more traditional ticket offered by the Republican's.

#3 If it's all set up by Howard Dean to give it to the Clinton's what happens to the Obama Support and Voters...where do those people go in the fall? Why take the risk of telling them their vote does not matter and souring a whole generation of new voters?

Question: Do the Clinton's want this so badly that they would risk that?
Clinton is on the Ropes and she knows it, why else go back to the old style of "make your opponent look so bad they'll have to vote for me" tactics. Despite the spin, the Committed delegates, not superdelegates (that can still jump ship before the convention) are virtually even or with Obama slightly ahead. As she gets more desperate, so do the lies.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/youve_got_mailers_1.html
Name one specific thing Obama has done that made the lives of people better.

One SPECIFIC thing.

Obamamaniacs can't. Sure, they can name personality traits - or job titles - or personal emotional reactions - or things he didn't do.
But they can't name one specific thing Obama has done to make the world a better place.

Obama never voted for the war. He also never voted against the war.

He hasn't done anything. Now some people want to make him president.
no doubt that the senate is exactly like high school like when Sen. Kennedy yesterday shook Sen. Clintons hand and Obama looked away to go talk to John Kerry who took Barack by the elbow and led him away from Sen. Clinton when she went to approach them to talk.  Hillary Clinton is not against Obama she is against the senators who dislike her, they are just using Obama as thier weapon.  I have sat In a senate proceeding and Its like a barn yard full of animals,  The reason why Hillary Clinton has enemies in the democratic senate is because she doesnt let them tell her what to do,  If Barack gets in there will be a lot of unmentionable things going on.  Funny how the negro nation has turned on the Clintons especially Hillary.  They have heleped them for years ( read her book)and now Obama twists her words ( funny it was right before the S.C. vote.....funny) and then like a slap in the face the whole negro nation backs thier brother.  How much of a brother do you think he will be while he is surrounded by hundreds of rich white men?  I think the better he does the more lighter his skin will get.  Wake up America make the right choice for the country, go with someone who has done a lot of good, dont let the media and colour keep someone out of the White House who can fix the country.

What I mean by this color remark is that the black nation is being fooled by the rich whiite senators who are using them to vote in thier puppet. Its Democratic Manchurian canadite and its working. I moved to Canada when Bush got in, And if Obama gets in I will not be comming back because the economy will not rise as well as it should like if Hillary is in. I am a political reporrer and it is amazing how unbiast Canadian media is to thier polotics. In the U.S.A. I am ashamed to be a journalist as the media has a lot to gain if Obama gets in. why? because he pays them numerous ammounts of money and if he gets in he will give them a HUGE tax break. How do I know this? Bush did it in 2000 and I was whitness to the tax form that was signed by a Virginia television station.

PS: the only reason why Oprah is backing Obama is so she can hit the White House buffet any time she wants. The one thing she cannot at this time do to feed her ego.
Barack Obama has brought our youth into the picture by the thousands upon thousands.  These kids have worked long and hard for hope and change in a Washington government that has long been broken.  They want a government that doesn't turn its back on the will of the people but uses them in the process.  What would become of all these young people if, after going through months and months of hard work, they were to find out the cruel truth about the democratic party - that the "fix" was on from the beginning, no matter what the people wanted?  When a person is a "super delegate" one would think they would look at the big picture and do what was right for the party, for the voters, and for the future.  If Barack Obama has the momentum, the money, the support, the most delegates...the contest HAS to go to him or the democratic party will be so broken it cannot be repaired.
Interesting story about OBAMA!

How he put forward an environmental bill
(the one he touts).
But it didn't pass in it's original state.
In fact he later watered it down,
due to pressure from a company.
Said company was a known chronic polluter!

Said company's executives together contributed hundred's of thousands of dollars to the Obama campaign!

Obama is NOT for change.
He's just better at branding himself that way.

I wonder where the rest of his money comes from.
It pays to find out the facts!
It is no doubt that the senate is exactly like high school like when Sen. Kennedy yesterday shook Sen. Clintons hand and Obama looked away to go talk to John Kerry who took Barack by the elbow and led him away from Sen. Clinton when she went to approach them to talk. Hillary Clinton is not against Obama she is against the senators who dislike her, they are just using Obama as thier weapon. I have sat In a senate proceeding and Its like a barn yard full of animals, The reason why Hillary Clinton has enemies in the democratic senate is because she doesnt let them tell her what to do, If Barack gets in there will be a lot of unmentionable things going on. Funny how the negro nation has turned on the Clintons especially Hillary. They have heleped them for years ( read her book)and now Obama twists her words ( funny it was right before the S.C. vote.....funny) and then like a slap in the face the whole negro nation backs thier brother. How much of a brother do you think he will be while he is surrounded by hundreds of rich white men? I think the better he does the more lighter his skin will get. Wake up America make the rigth choice for the country, go with someone who has done a lot of good, dont let the media and colour keep someone out of the White House who can fix the country.

What I mean by this color remark is that the black nation is being fooled by the rich whiite senators who are using them to vote in thier puppet. Its Democratic Manchurian canadite and its working. I moved to Canada when Bush got in, And if Obama gets in I will not be comming back because the economy will not rise as well as it should like if Hillary is in. I am a political reporrer and it is amazing how unbiast Canadian media is to thier polotics. In the U.S.A. I am ashamed to be a journalist as the media has a lot to gain if Obama gets in. why? because he pays them numerous ammounts of money and if he gets in he will give them a HUGE tax break. How do I know this? Bush did it in 2000 and I was whitness to the tax form that was signed by a Virginia television station.

PS: the only reason why Oprah is backing Obama is so she can hit the White House buffet any time she wants. The one thing she cannot at this time do to feed her ego.
If I recall, for a week prior to ST you and every other pundit, and nearly every pollster had Hillary SINKING in the polls, and Obama SURGING! In fact, none of that was true and as has happened in previous contests between the two, late deciders broke for Senator Clinton.

What you don't say is that most of the states where Obama won won't mean a hill of beans to him in a general election were he the Democrat's nominee, as most of the states Senator Obama won were Republican strongholds. And those states will go Republican in the fall. By the way, winning in caucuses, which Senator Obama did, is not the same as winning a primary. Caucuses are often brokered wins, not straight votes,which is how America elects our presidents in general elections.

One more point, as long as the press continues to coo over Senator Obama, he will continue to have an unfair advantage. But all this cooing is to America's disadvantage. America is entitled to know everything they can about a presidential candidate in order to make an informed decision before they vote. Hasn't America learned anything from the last eight years?

Halli Casser-Jayne
The CJ Political Report
http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com
All Obama has proved is he's a great talker.  Let him put his mouth where his money is and debate Hillary one on one.  THAT'S how you can really see the differences and strengths and weaknesses of the two and there has only been one such match up so far.  Hillary has already had two disasterous debates, but she's still willing to take the chance.  What's he so afraid of?
This debate talk is just a ploy to get her mug on tv. This is NOT about the issues. She, herself REFUSED to debate an opponent, so they are a fine group of people to talk about debating the issues.  I will happily vote for Obama next month. The future belongs to our children. It does not belong to sympathic, ignorant, racist, sexist and nostalgic fools that are voting for Hillary. Nor does it belong to power hungry people like the Clintons.
The Bush administration’s self-serving dishonesty has been offensive, constant, consistent, irresponsible, costly, even criminal, is seen in most everything and is always coupled with an arrogance and reprehensible belligerence that says they think they can do whatever they want.  Now I personally don’t ever want to see ‘more of the same’.  John McCain has totally, without hesitation, strongly backed everything the Bush administration has offered since 2004 when it seems apparent that McCain became focused on 2008.  Hillary Clinton has consistently demonstrated a sociopathic personality that when compared side-by-side with that of George W. Bush, there is little difference seen in style.  The Republican Party is now patiently waiting to know who the Democratic nominee is going to be before releasing all of their power and Hillary has declared she is ready to aggressively do battle – ‘swift boat’ style and all.  Can’t we do better than that?  Do we have to have ‘dirty politics as usual’ with the result being that once again we elect the individual who is better at being worse?  Isn’t it time for real change? …. time to elect someone with a conscience and with enough humility to focus on their responsibilities instead of just on self-satisfaction and their own private agenda?
It is quite simple: if Obama won't agree to more debates, it is because he does NOT have any answers to the tough questions. Why else would he be so afraid? His refusal to debate just makes his glaring inexperience and inability to do anything but attack Hillary even more obvious! Wake up and pay more
attention, people.Contrary to what the youth voters may be thinking, this is NOT a "reality contest" on MTV! It is the hardest and most important job there is, and experience counts...HILLARY 2008!!!!!!!
Obama lost California by 10 points mostly because of the early voting that occured when HRC was ahead in every poll by double digets.  She still may have won the state but it would have been much closer.

Bottom line is that Obama virtually tied her in delegates out of Tuesday.  Two weeks ago he was behind in every state except Illinois and Georgia.  For my money HRC is still the front runner but she is in a bit of trouble.
The Democratic DREAM TICKET:
President Hillary R. Clinton
Vice President Barack Obama

'nuff said!
I think the candidates will do much better touching base with the people on a personal level rather than submitting to more staged media cockfights.  I would rather listen to the candidates convince me why they deserve my valuable vote for POTUS than listen to them take cheap shots at each other for positions that they took up a thousand years ago for 2 hrs.
"If the Democratic nomination is decided by the Super Delegates and NOT the Democratic voters, we have a problem. If either of the two candidates is ahead, even by a few votes,  and the Super Delegates swing it the other way - there will be a lot of angry Democratic voters."

MKD

This may be true.....but it is the RULE....just like the rule about not seating Florida and Michigan's delegates.  

So what is it with our Obama friends?  Do you only want to enforce the rules that you like? Don't all the rules apply to the Obama camp?  This sounds a little elitist to me....you know what elitists are don't you?  Google the words "Kennedy" or "Kerry".

A read through the posts indicates that the Obama camp has a problem with one on one confrontations where substance trumps form?  I have no doubt that Barach has outstanding talent as a speaker and I would add, a wonderful heart as a human being.  But at this time, is America in need of subtance or style...are we as voters searching for the candidate with substance or style?  Are we in need of a President that isn't afraid to go one on one with other world leaders or are we in need of a President that can inspire other world leaders with his words and enthusiasm?  

I just can't see how a guy that is afraid to confront a person in a friendly debate can begin to ask to represent us as he meets with the leaders of North Korea or Iran within the first year of his being in office?
You're right. Obama is a dreamer. I am also a dreamer. Martin Luther King was a dreamer. And the people who are going to elect Obama are dreamers. We dream that we can take our country back, that we can correct all the errors made in the last 8 years. I have a DREAM.
Why is it that the educated, the net surfers, those who can at least speak English and African Americans (who are at least 80% Democrat) voted for Obama? Because they KNOW that Hillary won 't beat McCain as much as they may love her.

Kerry lost in 2004 because he too was branded by GWB as a flip-flopper on Iraq. I don't dislike Hillary. I'd love her to be the next president too, especially as she'd be the first female Commander-in-Chief. How I long for such a day.

But she just doesn't cut it.

Examine her behavior carefully. She isn't a leader; she's a follower. She follows the crowd, often even against her better judgment: on Iraq, on exceptions for torture, on every vital issue. She then followed her husband's lead into a run for the US presidency. And now she's following Obama in trying to match his fund-raising prowess.

I've always liked Hillary in spite of the errors when she made when she was First Lady. I love how she has stood by Bill to the very last. To me that demonstrated great moral courage. I don't believe I would have been that strong. But she isn't cut out to be president and she won't win anyway.
On March 4 Hillary will get all the delegates she needs and you add florida, which they will and that puts her over the top.Prior to that, she will also carry Maryland and possibly Washinton. Obama will be in trouble after March 4.
It is no doubt that the senate is exactly like high school like when Sen. Kennedy yesterday shook Sen. Clintons hand and Obama looked away to go talk to John Kerry who took Barack by the elbow and led him away from Sen. Clinton when she went to approach them to talk. Hillary Clinton is not against Obama she is against the senators who dislike her, they are just using Obama as thier weapon. I have sat In a senate proceeding and Its like a barn yard full of animals, The reason why Hillary Clinton has enemies in the democratic senate is because she doesnt let them tell her what to do, If Barack gets in there will be a lot of unmentionable things going on. Funny how the negro nation has turned on the Clintons especially Hillary. They have heleped them for years ( read her book)and now Obama twists her words ( funny it was right before the S.C. vote.....funny) and then like a slap in the face the whole negro nation backs thier brother. How much of a brother do you think he will be while he is surrounded by hundreds of rich white men? I think the better he does the more lighter his skin will get. Wake up America make the rigth choice for the country, go with someone who has done a lot of good, dont let the media and colour keep someone out of the White House who can fix the country.

What I mean by this color remark is that the black nation is being fooled by the rich whiite senators who are using them to vote in thier puppet. Its Democratic Manchurian canadite and its working. I moved to Canada when Bush got in, And if Obama gets in I will not be comming back because the economy will not rise as well as it should like if Hillary is in. I am a political reporrer and it is amazing how unbiast Canadian media is to thier polotics. In the U.S.A. I am ashamed to be a journalist as the media has a lot to gain if Obama gets in. why? because he pays them numerous ammounts of money and if he gets in he will give them a HUGE tax break. How do I know this? Bush did it in 2000 and I was whitness to the tax form that was signed by a Virginia television station.

PS: the only reason why Oprah is backing Obama is so she can hit the White House buffet any time she wants. The one thing she cannot at this time do to feed her ego.
Please people! Hillary does not have more "experience" because she's had a seat in the senate for a couple years longer! Learn your facts! Obama has been an elected official longer.
Why would anyone want this country to be ran by the same two families for 20-plus years? Are you nuts? This isn't England or Poland. This is America, founded on change... which we need now. Obama is better than you non-believers think. The Clinton's have a historically corrupt past with ties to bad people (Frank Giustras for example). Time for change.
No Tami she has more experience than anyone...including McCain...oops. Well atleast she disagrees with McCain on Iraq....oops.
Obama camp says it will be a tie? What a joke, and don't they wish. She will get the bigger share in Texas, Ohio and then Pennsylvania. His goose is cooked. That doesn't even include Florida, which Howard Dean promises will be in play.
I am a Hillary supporter for two reasons - first and foremost, she is extremely qualified and will be a great President; and second, I have waited all my life to support a woman for this job and at 60, I believe this is the woman that fills the bill.  I am sick and tired of all the crap about the likability factor.  That is a bunch of crap.  The media is trying this year to be the "king maker" and we women are disgusted.  If HRC doesn't win the nomination, then we may sit home on election day.  That said, I would support a Clinton/Obama ticket.
If anyone changes anything, it will piss-off somebody else, period.  Ms. Clinton has made a lot of people mad, apparently Mr. Obama has not  I have asked several in NY State and the Texas panhandle about Mr. Obama's specific plan for change, no specific, but he is going to change the Washington DC attitude and policies, same answer for Northern NY State.  What is the people being changed in DC going to do while all this change is happening? No answer.  Mr. Obama is George Bush with a pastor's gift of BS.  Ms. Clinton has seemingly delivered slightly better answer on heakthcare and potential economic concerns,  I will vote the experience side since JFK nearly screwed the US into a couple of near misses even though everyone felt just fine (10/62 & Vietnam beginning).  Iraq has been a Cluster F#@* since the beginning and the answer will take years and many adjustments to get it near righted.  China, India, Africa, South America, and the Southeast Asia are not going to wait forever for a piece of the pie ( and Russia is not done by a long shot).  I do not want a learn-as-you-Go president again.
Hillary will win with the superdelegates. That is why the Obama people are crying about it. They know they are screwed.
Hillary has experience all right- she can teach you how to lie, cheat and steal in an instant! At least Obama is not hateful and always talking about"the past".
Does Obama want it so badly, he would jeopardize losing the election to the REPUGs?
Can we all step back for just a moment, drop the anger and vitriol, and use good old common sense and wisdom.  
Experience alone should not be Hillary's political capital. Here it seems like it is. On every critical concern of the American people, Obama is obviously more competitive.
He portrays the leadership traits that any country needs to positively transform all ills.
Talent, vision and strong leadership and humility characterizes Obama's personality. His humility will encourage brainstorming and team work at the white House.
Let's not forget that the decision not to go to war at a certain time of the American history is partly the reason for its greatness today. Obama can be credited for that.
Hillary could not even explain the rationale behind which she voted for the war. And she ended up saying "Bush was so obsessed and confident about it that she voted for him". This tells us that she is a follower rather than being a leader.
Obama's plan is neat and clear for the knowledgeable person.
Some say that Obama avoids debates with Hillary because he cannot stand her. This is just not true.
this has something to do with strategy.


Hillary is running scared, she thought all she had to do was go through the motions and she would have the nomination for the Demo's.
As Gomer Pyle said `surprise, surprise,.
She wants more debates because it's free air time.
Obama shouldn't fall for her trick tactic.
Hillary has a lot to hide in her closet, 15 years of busting unions for big companies and some other unmentionables.
Hasn't this country had enough of the Clinton's, Hillary was running the country when Bill was chasing the skirts.
If Hillary wins the Demo nomination then who ever is the GOP nomination will be Pres.
Hillary talks out of both sides of her face.
Please Bill keep on campaigning for Hillary, it's the best thing you have done for this country.
No more Clinton exclusives when she becomes President.  I hope you guys choke on your own words of vomit.
Who are the people running Obama's campaign to threaten the Super Delegates this is the process and has always been. I am sure if this goes down to the wire they will be whining that racism played a part. I was actually for Obama til the media started pushing him down our throats day after day. I f he is not running as the black candidate then why is is already crying foul before the election is up. Good for Maria Shriver for listening to her teenage daughter telling her how to vote, how much experience does her daughter have in the economics and the foreign policy of this country, what a way to make a decision. And Ted Kennedy neeed we forget his corrupt past who is fooling who in this campaign, the media needs to start reporting facts and start holding barack Obama accountable for his stand on all of the issues, this election is too important to have a movement and on the job training. If he wins this is one lady who will be voting Republican. We are engaged in 2 wars, an econominc recession and healthcare that keeps decling, our foreign policy is in shambles. America needs to start really listening to what is going on.
So, Hillary starts calling for debates after she loses the delegate race on Super Tuesday and her campaign goes broke.

If she couldn't articulate her positions in the previous 17 (or was it 18?) debates, something is wrong. Maybe she changed her mind on something and wants to tell everyone.

It's that time of the race where voters should get to meet candidates personally, and hear more about their specifics in things like town halls. Televised debates are complete jokes. Summarize health care or your exit strategy in 1 minute? Are you kidding? All televised debates do are encourage vagueness and one-liners.
In the early months of 2007 they OPUSHED HRC down our throats and now you complain when they do the same for Obama. Damn a person can`t get a brake around you whinners.
Now that Obama  is closing the gap on your girl you want to cpmplain that the media is favoring him.
Isn`t that what they were doing with HRC when this race started (A statement not a question.)

She is now playing the card that she is out of cash (like with tears = N.Hampshire.) People don`t fall for the hype, they have money they are just playing with your minds ( the Clintons at it again.)  I am a women and I have no intentions on voting for HRC.  If she is the party pick I will vote a republican as it will still be the same old BS in the white house if she runs against a republican. Who needs that?

She can`t mamnage the campaign money and she wants to manage the American funds, I think NOT.

Obama/Ewdards '08..... Even if Edwards is no longer running.

Go Obama.


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