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Obama on superdelegates, McCain

Posted: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:25 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
SEATTLE -- In his third press availability in three days, Obama would not commit to a position he had put forward previously that superdelegates should vote the way their states did -- should the Democratic nomination come down to their votes.

"I think those superdelegates and elected officials and party insiders would have to think long and hard about how they approach the nomination if the people they represent have said that Obama is our guy," Obama said the morning after the February 5th primaries.

Asked today if superdelegates should vote the way their states votes, Obama hedged. "We haven't' had a lengthy discussion with all of our superdelegates -- our super delegates they should vote for me," Obama said.

He added: "The question for those not yet committed and the superdelegates that are still out there … trying to make up their minds -- my strong belief is that if we end up with the most states and the most pledged delegates from the most voters in the county that it would be problematic for the political insiders to overturn the judgment of the voters. And you know, I think that should be the guiding approach to determine who would be the nominee. I think it's also important for the superdelegates to think about who will be in the strongest to beat John McCain in November and who will be the strongest to make sure that we are broadening the base, bring people who historically have not involved in politics into the fold."

Responding to a conference call by the Clinton campaign that it would be impossible for neither Obama nor Clinton to win the Democratic nomination, Obama said that he "hadn't studied the math."

"Obviously this thing is tight, and if we keep on going and we've got 20% of delegates allocated to superdelegates and you need 50% to win and it stays roughly, you know, 40%-40%, you know, obviously you're not going to get the majority that's necessary. But I think it's too early to speculate."

He added that there was still a month to go and many "twists and turns" ahead. The nominating contests in Ohio and Texas will be held on March 4, less than four weeks away.  In a conference call today, Obama's deputy campaign manager, Steve Hildebrand, said the campaign was aggressively hiring staff in Ohio and Texas, focusing on local hires to organize and recruiting support from state and local officials.

And in another sign that John McCain is as much the man to beat in this election as Hillary Clinton is the woman to beat, Obama forcefully said, "Yes, absolutely," to a question on whether he would argue that he has better judgment on foreign policy than John McCain similar to how he has argued that against Senator Clinton.

"Look on the most important foreign policy decision in perhaps a generation, I strongly believe that John McCain got it wrong. I respect his service to our country and also would admit that he has been entirely consistent throughout the Iraq debate. He has been for it from the start and he's still for it, and he wants to be for it one hundred years from now," he said.

Calling it an "enormous strategic blunder," he added that he looked forward to having that argument with McCain on the "consequences of the Iraq war."

Asked if the nation should do more about gun control in light of recent shootings, Obama said that he would try to close the gun show loophole. "I think makes sense even to those who care deeply about the right to bear arms," he said.

Senator Clinton was directly referenced only once during the press conference, regarding a comment Obama had made previously about Republicans using a "dump truck" of attacks against her and was asked if it qualified as a personal attack. 

Obama bristled at the comment, and said it was not a "personal attack" but a response to the Clinton argument that somehow he was more vulnerable to attack than Clinton was. "I was  responding to a simple point that she would be insulated from attack despite the fact that we know they make a cottage industry out of attacking her," he said.

Obama's press conference was held at McKinstry, a green company in Seattle. Obama was introduced by Seattle's mayor, who said that the city had forged ahead with reducing greenhouse gas emissions despite an absence of leadership in Washington and called Obama a potential "partner" in Washington on the issue of climate change. Earlier, Obama participated in a walking tour through the company.

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Get over it! Florida and Michigan did not abide by the DNC rules by holding their caucuses too early and the delegates from those states were stripped because of it.  Hillary signed the agreement a year ago along with everyone else.  She only wants them counted now because she is behind in delegates.  

If you think she 'won' Florida...then think again.  Most Floridians did not even KNOW about that caucus.   Thousands of Floridians tried to vote on Feb. 5th.  What does that tell you???  She did not win Florida...and she can't win Michigan because no one else was even on the ballot.  You can campaign on the moon if you want.. but that doesn't make you 'win' because you were the only one there and you want to add a few delegates for your own benefit!  

The Clintons have been attempting to bend rules to suit them since Arkansas. DNC can't just 'seat' those delegates because she cries about it.  And if you think Obama will say..'oh sure Hillary, go ahead and count those' you are wrong. Dean is not God and cannot make that decision either.  It would end up in court and any judge would see her signature there and say..Sorry Hill...

So let it go and get over it!

The reason you see the delegate counts different on different sites is because some ARE counting Florida and Michigan... which is wrong.

Superdelegates don't come into play unless it is too close to call at the end of it all. You cannot count them in this delegate count at this point. The whole idea of Superdelegates negates the entire democratic process that entitles the voter's rights to elect who they choose. The entire Superdelegate system needs to be scrapped. It is an unfair process and needs to go away.
BionicWoman, I don't think the Condi VP spot with McCain would fly against an Obama candidacy, Obama is running as the "Iraq was a bad idea" guy, alot of people are comming to his position. Condi is a top figure in an administration that will be remembered mostly for its failures, not an easy sell for folks who are looking for a way out of this mess.
It's laughable ot think that Obama can win Massachuesstes, FLorida or California in a general election against MacCain.  WIthout those states, the Demos cannot win.  Remember Macain is loved in those places.  If Florida and Michigan are not counted, this would be a clear case of stealing an election from a female candidate.  Affirmative action horrors.
I thought Obama was against changing the rules...or "making up the rules as you go along".  

He complained and complained about the delegates in Florida possibly being seated--whining that the Clinton's were trying to change the rules....(by the way this wouldn't be changing the rules, there are proper channels to go through to get those delegates seated and it has been done before)
Superdelegates aren't anything new and have never been forced to vote the way their state votes (and how would this happen anyway---by popular vote in which Hillary is actually leading?
These people were given the votes without restriction because they are in a better position to judge candidates, their abilities and experience.  
But now HE wants to truly "change the rules" and put restrictions on them...what a fraud, Obama is.  You can't have it both ways!!
When will people wake up and see this man for what he truly is...just another politician.  And since the only real thing he has to run on is his "I'm a new kind of politician who will bring change" rhetoric, his whole campaign is BULL.
Henry O. Akinfe - I couldn't agree with you more.
The DNC told Forida and Michigan not to change their primary dates or their votes wouldn't count; they did it anyway.  The candidates accepted the decision of the DNC.   How very Clintonesque not to want those votes to count now that she needs them.  
Obama has accepted a debate offer with Clinton for the end of the month, and another later. Super delegate talk is premature, super delegates can change their mind at any time and its too early to decide now.

As for Michigan and Florida, Hillary Clinton made an agreement, as did all the Democratic candidates, not to campaign in these states because Michigan and Florida broke the rules of the Democratic Party and as a result would not be allowed delegates. Trouble is, Hillary broke her word and left her name on the ballot because she is well known, and would fare well without campaigning, but voters need an opportunity to get to know Obama who is new, so without campaigning of course she would get the votes, after which Hillary sends a press release out lying to voters in these states saying Obama is trying to disenfranchise voters.  Obama kept his word within the Democratic Party, Clinton did not. Michigan and Florida will play a huge part in the general election, but the Democratic party should not change the rules after the primary took place. That is unfair to Obama and also to Edwards who was still in when the primaries in these states took place.
Relax you are the MAN!  Now take a big breath and do the MATH, being president is a big , hard job!


Oh, this very, very true. You don't want just anyone in that office. You need someone strong, and with a level head. Not someone that goes ballistic if you say something about their pimped out daughter.


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