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Bill speaks again of voters' 'dilemma'

Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:45 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
BOWIE, Md. -- Bill Clinton took his message to the pulpit this morning, sounding a bit like Job as he lamented the decision facing primary voters in the capital region this week.

“God works in strange ways,” Clinton told the congregation at Temple of Praise in southeast Washington this morning. “All my life I have wanted to vote for a woman for president,” he added, noting he was “born to a widowed mother” who sometimes “suffered discrimination” at work. “And all my life I have wanted to vote for an African American for president,” he continued, saying his life in politics “was born in the civil rights struggle.” “I wonder why God gave us this dilemma,” he asked.

The former president struck a similar tone a the Greater Mt. Nebo AME Church in Prince George’s County. “I know it’s not easy, and all I wanted to say to you is this. I hope you will be there. Pray about it, and do what you think is right,” he said.

At both locations, he offered a shortened version of his stump speech, with special emphasis on issues he said affect the African-American community. In Washington, he added an appeal for voting rights for the District, saying it was about time citizens were “politically empowered.”

Clinton was greeted warmly at both locations, with a chorus of Amens and approving Yeses as he conceded that he had a preference in the contest.

Beyond his partisan appeal, Clinton took in the services, nodding in approval as Pastor Glen Staples preached about the Good Samaritan, and called this the “year of the comeback.” “Sometimes people you think will help you will not,” he said. “Sometimes it’s the most unlikely people who will help you.”

At Greater Mt. Nebo Church, Clinton seemed to particularly enjoy the youth participation in the service, smiling broadly and nodding and clapping along as “The Sunbeams” sang “He’s Got The Whole World In His Hands.” “If I didn’t say a word, just hearing the children sing was more than worth the trip,” Clinton said.

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The black vote is gone Bill, no sense trying anymore. They gave up on you after SC.
She had me at "Yes I'm running and running to win"! Trash her all you want online and in the media. I have read Obama's books as I have her's and one thing is clear. They both love this country and have served it well. The difference (which is a big one) is the time spent doing that service. At 14 she was providing child-care for immigrants...what was Obama doing at 14? From early on she was heavily involved in her city politics as well as national interests. Her whole life since 14 has been about people in need, her life's work! Her passion shows her heart (the one Obama supporters deny she has)You think 8 years in the White House had no education to it? She wasn't your average First Lady by any means. She is the type of person to study deeply any subject before her. She LEARNS all she can to best approach a problem or need. Those mistakes everyone likes to harp on is the very reason she will make a great president. Her whole life she has displayed that when you fail, get up and try again learning from that failure. I watched Larry King with Will.I.AM and America...when asked why he supports Obama I nearly fell out with his response..."Obama REMINDS ME of the people who made it possible for me to have a better education"....duh that would be people like Hillary Clinton who began the battle of better education in her seating as first lady in Ark. geez "reminds you" I would think you would want the people who make it happen not those who hope to bring it about! He reminds me of JFK (JFK had 14 years of experience people!) He is so inspiring (inspiration without hard work is nothing but poetry).... America, on the other hand, when asked by Larry why she supported Hillary gave sound reasons, facts, policies she knows will bring about the changes she seeks in our country! I have no doubt that Obama can and will make history as the first black President but I don't want him in office BEFORE he has more experience! Do your own research and see that for 35 years Hillary has been a hard worker for all the issues close to us. Obama supporters should be ashamed for believing the crap the republicians have trashed her with for years. They are both wonderful candidates, experience is the key! My main objection to Obama is the audacity of his ego to run with only 18 months in the Senate! Not to mention, he has learned fast to win one must play the game of politics (which he attacks Hillary for learning years ago) The same Obama who wrote the book about such methods are now using them to win. Neither are without flaw, I want the most experience of the two which is clearly the one who has been doing it alot longer!
This dilemma is not between a woman or a black man as president.... the dilemma which shouldn't be a dilemma at all is really between the same old washington partisan politics and a new, uniting politics of the future delivered by a unique and different type of politician that my generation has never witnessed before... Barack Obama
This dilemma is not between a woman or a black man as president.... the dilemma which shouldn't be a dilemma at all is really between the same old washington partisan politics and a new, uniting politics of the future delivered by a unique and different type of politician that my generation has never witnessed before... Barack Obama
Oh. Really? If you wanted to vote for a woman and an African American, what happened to your cabinet? And why did you spend your presidency signing trade laws that stole many jobs away from Americans? Why did you let your wife turn her back on women while she was serving on the board of Wal-Mart to represent women? Did you actually hire as many women heads of your cabinet -- or as many Hispanics or Asians or African Americans in your administration?
Did you also do financial dealings with rich men so that you may seem like advocating women's rights through your foundation? If you answer "yes" to this and all the above questions, then why are you being a hypocrite? If you answer "no," then why are there so many articles, analyses and even history textbooks contradicting most of what you saiWhat is wrong with being truthful? Why are you and Hillary hiding the tax returns and other papers to prove or disprove your scandals/mistakes? Releasing them only after Hillary's political ambitions are fulfilled to her liking?
You know , every single exit poll has repeatedly shown that Obama voters are better educated then Clinton voters , and that fact really does shine through on all of these political blogs.

How anyone could vote for more Clinton scandals in the "peoples" White House is beyond me.

Clinton claiming all them years as first lady as experience ,is like saying the Brain Surgeons wife is qualified to perform the operation.

Clinton brings with her a , House Divided , another do Nothing Congress , and more Clinton Scandals.She is like George Bush on Steroids.

I am a 51 year old white disabled male. I live on a fixed income , and i send in $20 a month to the Obama campaign , and in my world , that's a lot of money. I also just signed up to take part in an Obama sign waving event in my area. The thing is , Obama has real every day people supporting his campaign , people that are so DONE with Washington and people like the Clinton's.

Obama actually has more time in elected office then Clinton , and one of his biggest assets is , he hasn't been in Washington long enough to become tainted.

If you want something to get done for a change ( VOTE OBAMA )
What a politician. If there were a Hispanic and a disabled American also running Bill Clinton would say "what a dilema, I always wanted to vote for a woman, african american, hispanic, or a disabled american". Vote Obama people, at least we hear straight talk from Obama.
You guys have been very slow in updating your blog. There are toher sites that have been updating hourly.
Bill is dipping now and he's afaird of losing the race so he's bringing in the color issue. I'm not black but believe I'm voteing for the best person, Barrack. Hillery is just too flip floppy and I believe we need someone new.
Well I am sure that NBC and the haters will find something about what Bill Clinton said to spin out as negative.   This is no longer a gender issue election.  After attending a caucus yesterday and being asked if I was a racist because I was defending Hillary Clinton's health care plan against the Obama plan which was being untruthfully depicted in his Ads on TV (They were saying his Universal Health Care Plan would give health care to every single person).  Perhaps, I am mistaken as it was an old white man who asked me that as he proceeded to tell me that he was in the South and heard MLK speak.  After taking a deep breath, I said that for seven years if you critized the president you were called unpatriotic, so if anyone were to critize a President Obama we would be called a racist?

I am so unhappy about this election as the media has hyped the race card starting with their attacks on Bill Clinton and reporting the votes by dividing them into black/white/uneducated/women/men/white women/black women/old/young, and on and on.  I notice that last night's results for the Republicans
were not broken down to so extensively, and that one was  "white-evangelical vote count.  This is outrageous.   Our country is really suffering right now because of this.  Americans use your brains.  We are trying to fill the most important job in the USA.
We have had two terms with a man who was inexperienced in just about everything, but was
"likeable" (????)  We need a president who has the very best resume.  My vote will go to Hillary Clinton if I have to write it in so that I can live with myself.

Additionally, at the WA. STATE CAUCUS we did not have to show voter registration, proof of residence, or any other kind of identification.  So the head count could determine the delegates each candidate would receive.  If later, the name and address you have given is false, it doesn't matter unless you were one of the delegates selected from your table.  For example, at the location for me we were allowed to have two delegates for Clinton, and four for Obama.  If any of these six were illegal than a replacement delegate would be selected from an alternate delegate for either candidate.  ONLY IN AMERICA...AND WE SEND JIMMY CARTER TO THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES TO MAKE SURE THEY GET FAIR ELECTIONS.  IS THIS HOW THE DEMOCRATICS
ARE ALLOWED TO SELECT THEIR NOMINEE?  ONLY IN AMERICA.  I THINK THAT THE PRIMARY VOTES SHOULD BE USED FROM WASHINGTON STATE.  THE BALLOTS REQUIRE A SIGNATURE AND A VOTER REGISTRATION NUMBER.  IT IS ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH FAULTY VOTER MACHINES, BUT TO BE CONCERNED WITH VOTER FRAUD IN EVEN SELECTING OUR CANDIDATES IS CRIMINAL.  OBAMA DOES WELL IN THE CAUCUS STATES, HE HAS BOOTS ON THE GROUND ORGANIZING FOR THE CAUCUSES. WE HAVE NO VERIFICATIONS IF CAUCUS VOTERS ARE EVEN REGISTERED VOTERS IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON.  HOW MANY ANY OTHER STATES VOTED IN THIS WAY?


Vij's from Connecticit,
Bravo bill, i totoally agree. We had women prime minister in Inidia, Bangladesh and England. It is about time United States of America have a women president who is well qualified. It is a shame that we don't have equal pay. I am proud to vote for a women president. I did vote for Hillary in primary and i will for the president..
FOR ME IT NOT A HARD CHOICE WHEN COMES TO THE FIRST WOMAN OR THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN.FOR ME COMES DOWN TO HONESTY! I AM SORRY CLINTON,S YOU LOSE!
Please, I don't care what Bill's doing anymore.  Every time I think about him back in the White House it turns my stomach.
 Did Bill fall asleep during the service like he did in South Carolina, twice?
Thank you MSNBC and Mr. Montanaro for this nicely written article.  
makes me wanna hurl
I LOVE BILL CLINTON! HIS REMARKS TODAY WERE SO APPROPRIATE. OF COURSE HE SUPPORTS HIS WIFE RIGHTFULLY SO. HE IS EMOTIONALLY AND PERSONALY INVESTED IN HIS WIFES BID FOR OFFICE BUT HE CHOSE TO AKNOWLEDGE SENATOR OBAMA IN A VERY GOOD LIGHT. I WAS ALSO IMPRESSED TO HEAR SENATOR OBAMA SAY LAST NIGHT THAT HE AND HILLARY WERE FRIENDS BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN AND WOULD BE FRIENDS AFTER THE CAMPAIN. BEING AN OBAMA SUPPORTER AT THIS TIME I HOPE WHO EVER WINS WILL FIND A SIGNIFICANT PLACE FOR THE OTHER IN THEIR ADMINISTRATION. THEY BOTH HAVE SO MUCH TO BRING TO THE TABLE. THE FIRST PRESIDENT I VOTED FOR WAS JIMMY CARTER AND I HAVE BEEN A DEMOCRAT EVEN BEFORE THAT. NEVER CAN I REMEMBER SUCH RICH CHOISES TO CHOOSE FROM. THE FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT FOR BOTH DEMOCRATS AND OUR NATION.
I hear Bill's words, but I just keep picturing him in the Oval Office, chasing an intern with a cigar.
This article bring a big, "meh..."

Bill feels our pain, does he?
I am greatly relieved that President Bill Clinton is now behaving as I believe he should, as an elder stateman.  However, President Clinton's past actions demonstrated to me, at least, that principles were less important to him than his wife, Senator Clinton's successful candidacy.  I can forgive President Bill Clinton's incivility, but I cannot forget it.
I think it is becoming more and more evident that to effectively have a REAL change in Washington and send a clear message that the Politics of the past are not a real choice that Barack Obama is the hope for the 21st Century. Many will point to his youth and lack of experience and shortcomings, which at first blush has some merit. However, what many people have quickly forgotten was what transpired when the both the House and Senate underwent a sweeping house cleaning of Republicans. NOTHING changed, there are both men and women of both parties with a great many years of service which have been impotent to affect any significant change in spite of a 'lame duck' president.

The more objectively Americans of every race and ethnicity peer into what the elections will look like once the primaries are over we have to ask ourselves, How much do we want to revisit the baggage the Clinton's had when they were in the Whitehouse? That liability does not exist for Obama, in fact the Republican machinery is quite content mentioning Hillary because that who they feel will galvinize their splintered party.

I as a Hispanic who have had relatives serve in every major war since WWII to the present see the need to have the Whitehouse redecorated with someone who more closely represents the United States of America TODAY.

Barack Obama has been honest that he cannot do it alone and that he will make mistakes, experience tells me that even to date the Clintons are adept to sidestep answering questions of substance. Bill Clinton is a master of parsing the english (American) language and Hillary has an eerie resemblance to George W. refusing to answering directly and clearly questions. Personally I can imagine her being equally defiant when her policies are called to questions and the country then enduring 4 years of a Clinton dynasty.

The issue is NOT gender or race, it is CHANGE, frankly haven't we had enough of 'experienced' Politicians changing job titles who have been in Washington and then trying to appear as if they are outsiders.

The Republican's DRED having to debate Obama, their arenal is made to focus on Hillary. The presidentcy for over 232 years has remained in the hands of mean who have a common experience. In this long history never has there been a REAL opportunity to have a person of color effectively lead our country and better represent the country we ALL love in this 21 century.

Unfortunately those of us who are of color, latino, african-american, asian and native american are again being polarized by a system that is saying it is more important that a 'woman' be elected because she was the wife of a president than a man who is like us in experience. That she is better because of 'perceived' experience than he because he is young.

If we as people of color can Bleed (defending our country) then this is OUR time to get a chance to lead. The biggest mistake we make is to assume keep the status quo the same and the outcome will be different.

Hispanos para Barack Obama
Bill is a bit desperate at this point.  They mismanaged their massive 'war chest', asked their staff to go without pay, Hillary TERRIBLY muffed her attempt at healthcare reform...let FL and MI count now when they previously signed agreement to waive their delegates, and we should vote for her because she will be the first woman president?  Not good enough.  I am old enough to remember Bill's pathetic performance in office and how we won his reputation of slippery Bill.  The Clinton's had their day. It's time to change the climate in the White House.  Vote for honest change.  Obama brings that.  and yes, he has experience as a senator and has a good 'feel' of how old Washington works!  Time for the baby boomers to move on and let a uniter heal this nation.  OBAMA
 
A woman would be great, Bill, it's just that Hillary doesn't represent enough change.  So she's got party establishment endorsements.  Yawn!

Hillary vs McCain: OUCH!
Obama vs McCain: Change, Integrity, Different view on Iraq
Bill is a bit desperate at this point.  They mismanaged their massive 'war chest', asked their staff to go without pay, Hillary TERRIBLY muffed her attempt at healthcare reform...let FL and MI count now when they previously signed agreement to waive their delegates, and we should vote for her because she will be the first woman president?  Not good enough.  I am old enough to remember Bill's pathetic performance in office and how we won his reputation of slippery Bill.  The Clinton's had their day. It's time to change the climate in the White House.  Vote for honest change.  Obama brings that.  and yes, he has experience as a senator and has a good 'feel' of how old Washington works!  Time for the baby boomers to move on and let a uniter heal this nation.  OBAMA
 
The ClintonS should go home. They are still on the stage because the establishment and its surrogates, spurred on by the ClintonS pathological ambition and self absorption, do not intend to be denied in their quest to make Hillary, no, Billary, potus. It is NOT wise to believe anything they say.  Thus it is absolute nonsense to have, particularly since New Hampshire, pretended that Obama was/is anything other than underdog to this point in time. He still is, notwithstanding his excellent performance to date. If this was not the case, the ClintonS would be home by now. As I have proffered previously, re Barack, NO chickens should be counted until they ALL hatch. This is so notwithstanding that his performance HAS gathered some chickens.

I've posted some of the following elsewhere on this site previously:

For the purposes of argument, based on observation, watching (TV) and reading, let’s assume the following re voters:

(1) A 50/50 split between Democrats and Republicans.
(2) A 50/50 split between Sens. Clinton and Obama in primaries and caucuses.

Thus, as regards America’s place in the world going forward, based on demographics, geopolitics and economic projections for the next, say, one to three decades, it appears as though approximately 25% of the U.S. population has the vision, either rationally or intuitively, consistent with global democracy rather than the American imperial colossus. That is, the potus is just that, the president of the United States ---- the commander-in-chief AND the diplomat-in-chief ---- NOT the emperor of the modern ARE (ancient Roman Empire).

In this way, notwithstanding Sen. Clinton’s perspective, she and Sen. McCain represent, at core, more of the same. Sen. Obama represents fundamental change.  That’s the 25%, as it stands currently, with the vision.  Sen. Obama is performing as he is against this huge vision gap.  HE is the underdog until he, IF he does, wins, first, the nomination of the Democratic party and, second, the general election in November.  

The media has aided and abetted the despicable Clinton campaign (go read “Next up for the Democrats: Civil War” by Frank Rich, published in the NY Times on Feb.10, 2008 -------- playing the southern strategy was not enough for the Clintons.  Now they are content, as strategy, to play the Blacks vs. Hispanic game.  Hillary for potus, regardless of whatever chaos or destruction she and Bill leave in their wake.) in this on-going nonsense re Clinton “coming back from the dead” so many times.  This started with New Hampshire and continues to the present.  Massachusetts was a particularly egregious example of this nonsense because Obama had started exceptionally far behind.  Then we have the money business ----- the $5M loan; then the $10M raised very quickly.  It’s complete and absolute nonsense to attempt to portray Obama as the establishment candidate.

IF this is a time of transformation it won’t be known until AFTER it happens.  The following two comments elaborate:

Comment 1:
Election2008
Either America is at a point of transition or it is not.

If Clinton wins the nomination THAT will be the signal that it is NOT. If Obama does, THAT will part 1 of a two-part signal that it might be.

The point to be recognized about the Clintons is, in THIS writer's opinion, the following:  IT'S ABOUT THEM.

Given the span of time in the history of America that they have been on the scene, and given that they are operating from the Democratic Party, IT WAS IN THEIR INTEREST to NOT play the so-called southern strategy up to this point. AT THIS TIME IT WAS/IS, so they played it. It was interesting to watch his body language ---- particularly facial expression ----- as he answered the question about Obama vs. the ClintonS with the Jessie Jackson "thing".

As I said in a previous post: It is PRECISELY BECAUSE, it's absurd to refer to the Clintons as "racist", why their performance, especially, slick Willie's, is so invidious.  It's simply that ALL other dreams, including MLK's, can wait, if they get in the "Hillary-for-potus" way. Thus ALL, yes, ALL!!, stops must be pulled, to fulfill their self-absorbed wish.

It is illogical to simultaneously say (i) that the Clintons, lets put it this way, have NO "racist" bone in their bodies and (ii) that they did NOT deliberately do what they did ---- play the southern strategy. I vote for (ii). Their behaviour has been astoundingly despicable. If the status quo is what is desired, then Clinton will win the nomination. Pat Buchanan, for example, seems to think so. Given the historical evidence, the cards cut in his favour.

However, the point is, that NO ONE KNOWS. All that anyone can be expressing, at this point, is his or her speculation and/or desire. Why?  Because IF THIS IS A MOMENT OF TRANSITION, no one will know UNTIL IT HAPPENS, by definition. A Clinton nomination says no, an Obama nomination says maybe. The latter, with a Republican defeat in November says yes. Everything else is conjecture, speculation and/or desire.


Comment 2:
IF America IS ready for a TRANSITION (a TRANSFORMATION), then the ClintonS feature at step 3 of the four step process which, WHEN COMPLETE, will be the lagging indicator that, indeed, it is NOW ready. Given America's history why even contemplate that it JUST MIGHT be ready, given the current polls?  Because, steps 1 and 2 have already occurred.  Here are the four steps:

1.  Iowa  ---- need say no more. The history books
   beckon.

2.  South Carolina ----- Hooray for those black women
   and those whites between the ages of 18 and 29.
   Yes and all the others too.

3.  Rejection of the ClintonS at the polls. Send them
   home. Their post-Iowa to just-after-South Carolina
   despicable behaviour is a significant part of the  
   reason. They showed their true selves when HER
   supposedly inevitable coronation (remember the,
   "It WILL be me," to Katie Couric, long before
   Iowa?) was threatened.

4.  Elect Obama potus.


Of course, notwithstanding their display, the ClintonS are very much in the hunt. Imagine where Obama would be now if he had displayed such objectionable behaviour? We DID get a sense of it re that supposed "snub".  The crassness of the Clinton campaign deserves a snub and more.

Thus, IF the four step process is completed, the U.S.A. will shock itself and the world on a grand scale. Notwithstanding, Sen. Clinton's comment at the last "debate" that by looking at both of them, it is clear that "you will NOT get more of the same," I have a different opinion. IF it is Sen. Clinton, it WILL be, at core, more of the same. A change yes, but, again, AT CORE, more of the same.


Ever notice that all of the Clinton supporters on these blogs always tend to write minimums of 4 paragraphs to get their points across about why they support/like the Clintons? If you can't convince us in 5 sentences or less, please spare us.
He's the dilemma.
Eight years of peace and prosperity and you idots forget so soon. I was and still am a died in the wool Democrat and have been since I was in my Mothers womb. Although I strongly supported John Edwards in ths SC primary and wish he was going to be our nominee, I can not believe that some of you dummycrats can make such strong remarks against the best President our country has seen since FDR. When Bill Clinton took the White House our country was deep in debt and the Dow Jones average was about 2000 pts. When he left office we had the strongest job growth and economic times since the great depression and 20 million jobs had been created. the Dow stood at 10,000 pts and thos eof us that got those good jobs saw our 401k grow unlike we have experieced with this bunch of crooks we now have in office. Please quit drinking the koolaid and wake up, now that Edwards is out of the race The Clintons are our next best hope of winning in November or we will have Bush on steroids with Anmesty McCain and Miss Lindsay Graham!      
Hillary supporters, who post here and elsewhere, are so angry, writing with all caps, etc.

Why? What's that all about? Obama supporters are not angry.
I started this presidential nominating process conflicted because I am a middle aged female. However after hearing the candidates, viewing the debates and other related comments, I am convinced that Barack Obama will be my candidate of choice. I have been a lifelong democrat, casting my first ballot in the 1968 election. I have stuck with the Democratic Party when our candidates have lost by lost margins and when we have been victorious. At this time and moment in history, I believe that Obama is our best choice. I believe that he brings to the nomination the leadership skills and judgement that we need to deal with our economy and international relations. We need a leader who represents the ability to UNITE, not a divisive figure. I like Senator Clinton, but I believe that she is too divisive for the job at this time. Her divisiveness goes back to the early 1960's when she supported Barry Goldwater for President instead of Lyndon Johnson, when she made some questionable dealings during her husband's tenure as Governor and President. Obama has strengths and weaknesses also, however, I believe that his strengths at this time outweigh his weakness and he will make the better leader for our nation at this time and at this moment in our country's history.
The dilemma...do African Americans vote for the first "black" President (tho no one seems to mention he be of a Caucasian mother)...or do they loyally hold tight to the first ersatz "black" President?  Such will not only influence...but will decide...the nomination.  "Black Power" has new meaning.  Next...can the  Democrats, combined with a strong voting turnout from the African American community, should Obama indeed be anointed...defeat the conservative right, who will in a "eureka" moment discover that they can ...swallow very hard...and vote for McCain.  Tho my own first choice is dynamic duo of Billary, I am a Common Sense Liberal...and common sense tells me that in hopes of appointment rights to the next three Supreme Court openings...the best option be Obama.  Hillary has her Senate seat forever...and most probably will be offered the second Supreme Court opening during Obama's tenure, the first going to Edwards.  Whatever be the scenario...election night this coming November is going to be a show to not be missed.  
GIVE ME A BREAK....HILLIARY WORKING AT THE AGE OF FOURTEEN TO HELP THE LATINO'S.  THAT MAKES ME LAUGH...SO NOT INSTEAD OF HER 28YEARS..WHOOPS...35YEARS..WHOOP..I GUESS WE CAN ADD A FEW MORE YEARS TO THAT TOO...44YEARS...WOW...FOR BEING IN OFFICE SO LONG SHE SURE DID MAKE ALOT OF MISTAKES...JANET RENO.. A FAILED HEALTH CARE POLICY...SUPPORT OF THE WAR AND THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO BUSH...I'M SURE SHE WILL GET THE NOMINATION AS BILL AND HILLIARY KNOWS ALL THE DIRTY TRICKS OF WASHINGTON AND HAS QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN THEIR POCKET...LET THE FUN BEGIN AS HILLIARY WOULD STATE..I WILL ENJOY WATCHING HER FALL ON HER FACE...
I am really sick and tired of Barack Obama.  He is another Jimmy Carter.  He is a fine man and I do not doubt that but like Carter if he should get to Washington he will get nothing done because he lacks the experience.  Does he really think that he is going to sit everyone down and they are going to work toward a mutual goal and understanding?  How naive does he think people are. Like Carter they both had very little government experience. Carter killed the Dems and I happily voted for Regan and remained and independent ever since. I did not vote for Bush in 200 for same reason....no experience.  I will vote for Barack Obama either because he will make it four years like Carter.  As for the scandals in 1992-2000: I think one needs to remember the Independent Council Statute existed and that was the one reason we had the scandals. That statute expired in 2000 and was not renewed as federal law.  What do you think would be happening under Bush.  The point is simple: Barack Obama will screw this country up even more because of his inexperience.  Also, for the record, I am not someone with a limited education.  I have a professional degree and I am licensed, and definitely make more than $50000.00 a year.
Bill can't stop stirring the pot. We shouldn't be agonizing over whether to vote for a white woman or a black man, we should be supporting the person we believe is most qualified.  I am voting for Obama, not only because of his charm and charisma, but because of his vision, and most of all, his integrity.

The Clinton's, sadly, seeme to have lost theirs along the way.  
All my life I was under the impression that the Church was supposed to stay out of politics.  Does that mean only the Catholic Church? Or don't the  Clintons have to obey any laws?  Sign me Confuse
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Obama is high on inspiration but low on substance -- talk is cheap, and actions are priceless. I find it interesting that Obama supporters would tear apart Hillary yet they give Obama's serious flaws a pass. Do you think Republicans will let him off the hook for cocaine use? Even though he wrote about his own drug use in order to innoculate himself from attacks later on, Republicans will point out that cocaine use is a felony, and many government, military, and private-sector jobs do not hire anyone who known to have used cocaine. And would you trust your kid's teacher if you find out he had used cocaines? Would you feel safe sending your kid on a play date to the house of a friend whose father had used drugs? So why don't we deal with his electibility issue knowing full well that Republicans will make it a central issue. Could you also tell me how will Obama unite the country by being the most liberal senator, even to the left of the socialist senator Bernie Sander from Vermont? It's like Bush the uniter trying to unite from the far right. Just an empty promise. If Demcrats really want to win in November, they have to give the electability issue another look. Republicans actually welcome running against Obama becuase the character issue will surface - drug use and shady financial deal with Rezko, a slumloard of Syrian descent who was just illegally wiring money to the mid-east. Unfortunately Hillary the hard working lady is not cool enough.
Sounds to me like Bill is starting to lean towards Obama too!!
Obama doesn't have to say mean things about the Clintons.  His so called highly educated supporters, show their racist and speak like alley trash
I met Barack Obama personally 4 years ago when the lightning was just beginning to strike. My wife and I spent 90 seconds with him and I was immediately impressed by his graciousness. He treated me (a registered voter, that's all) as if I were as important as anyone else he would meet that busy day.

Barack reminds me of the scene from Men in Black II when Tommy Lee Jones asks Will Smith what happened to the old car. Will Smith unforgettably points to the NEW car and says That old car was Old and Busted. THIS is the New Sweetness. He does that twice more, pointing to the imaginary old car and then the new car:
Old and busted - New Sweetness.
Old and busted - new Sweetness.

Even Hilary seems a little like Old and Busted and John McCain DEFINITELY.

But Barack is the New Sweetness! Absolutely! (PS I'm 56 - one of the baby boomers who supposedly prefers Clinton-style. Nope.

Also: JFK Had no experience - LINCOLN had no experience - Washington had no experience (as President, anyway!) Barack is in GOOD company.


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