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Clinton sees no momentum problem

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:50 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
WHITE MARSH, MD -- One day before three contests her campaign has already said it expects her to lose, Hillary Clinton today declined to admit any concern over the momentum her rival could pick up if he sweeps February's primaries and caucuses.

VIDEO:  Sen. Hillary Clinton remarks on Obama's five-state victory over the weekend and the overall state of her presidential campaign.

The senator said that she was ahead in delegates, that she didn't have "any idea" when this race would be decided, and that Obama's big wins over the past few days to the caucus process and to black voters. "We had a great night on Super Tuesday. I'm still ahead in the popular vote and in delegates. We're each picking up delegates," she said. "I believe if you look at the states that are upcoming I am very confident. I am absolutely looking to Ohio and Texas, because we know that those are states where they represent the broad electorate in this country. They represent the kind of voters that are going to have to be convinced and won over in the general election." (Question: Sure Ohio is a swing state, but does Clinton really see Texas going from red to blue in 2008?)

The senator also reiterated her belief that superdelegates should use their independent judgment in choosing whom to back.

On whether Obama's momentum could impact Ohio and Texas: "I don't think it does. I think those are independent electorates and everybody knew, you all knew what the likely outcome of these recent contests were and, you know, my husband didn't win any of these caucus states. You know, he didn't win Maine. He didn't win Colorado. He didn't win Washington. This is about making a strong case. You know, before Super Tuesday, you all were reporting the same thing about all of the momentum. It didn't turn out to be true. Let's have the election. You know, instead of talking about them and pontificating about or punditing about them. Let's let people actually vote, and I think in Texas and Ohio, I will do very, very well, and I intend to run very competitive winning campaigns there."

Clinton said it had been Patti Solis Doyle's decision to step down as campaign manager and cited the toll long campaigns take on families. She also said she looked forward to competing in Wisconsin and urged Obama to debate her there.

"I'm gonna compete in Wisconsin. I'm looking forward to competing in Wisconsin. It's kind of like one day at a time, where we're going what we're doing. But, you know, I have a very strong campaign already on the ground in Ohio, in Texas, we're getting, you know, prepared for Wisconsin. We're going to compete everywhere that's the advantage of being able to, you know, have the resources and have the ability to compete everywhere."

Clinton said she had not been surprised by the large margin of her recent losses to Obama, citing the fact that they were caucus states and in the case of Louisiania the "very strong and very proud African-American electorate, which I totally respect and understand."

In response to a question about Obama saying that during the Clinton Administration, Democratic lost their majorities in Congress, as well as governorships, Clinton said Americans had positive memories of the Clinton Administration. And they took on a lot of problems, and that you win some, you lose some.

Clinton also commented again of Defense Secretary Gates' statement that a pause in US troop withdrawals from Iraq could be necessary and restated her belief in the need to end the war.

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We should consider the political dynamic that will result if we do manage to elect Hillary POTUS.  GWB’s policies and the behavior of the Republican majority in congress have left their coalition in disarray.  They need a common enemy to rally their troops. It will be in the political interest of Republican politicians of all stripes to try and derail any major accomplishments for a Clinton administration.  

No Republican politician will find it in his or her interest to associate with any health care proposal, for instance, which includes the hot-button phrase “government mandates.”  But they are politicians after all.  If they see that they are facing an oncoming tsunami of voter sentiment with a charismatic leader like Obama out in front, watch how quickly they try to climb on top of the wave and go along for the ride.
"Question: Sure Ohio is a swing state, but does Clinton really see Texas going from red to blue in 2008?"

Follow along, she spoke of the type of electorate ... the broad electorate ... that these states have.  She didn't refer to winning either state in the general.  She spoke of winning over those types of voters.
That is what an arrogant and stubborn president is like -- one who does not admit almost anything. Bush does not like to acknowledge reality, and Hillary does not want to admit reality. Welcome to new President Bush.
One day before three contests her campaign has already said it expects her to lose, Hillary Clinton today declined to admit any concern over the momentum her rival could pick up if he sweeps February's primaries and caucus

Kind of like the New England Patroits saw no problem with the momentum the New York Giants had coming into the super bowl....

Look where it got them.....

(Question: Sure Ohio is a swing state, but does Clinton really see Texas going from red to blue in 2008?)

LOL, the dems can't even come up with a legitimate contender to take on John Cornyn after Watts backed out for getting involved with The Clinton's money man in Texas.  The democrats are just sitting on their hands on this one in Texas.  I have not heard one person of power in Texas come out for The Clinton's, and if they do, then their name is mud.

Obama's college classmate and friend Juan Garza is trying to set something up here for Obama to come to Corpus Christi.  What will be interesting is who will draw the bigger crowds; The Clinton's or Obama?  Of course Juan will be in a fight to the death himself, like Hillary when he takes on Todd Hunter in the general election.
Always an excuse...never because it is "HER"

BTW people in Maine could vote adsentee in their caucus...caucus is not an excuse.
"Clinton said Americans had positive memories of the Clinton Administration." SAY WHAT?????? She never ceases to amaze.....
There's absolutely zero chance of California, New York, Pennsylvania, and the rest of the exorbitantly blue states ever voting for a Republican.  Hillary seems to be quite confused about this.  The only place to bring new voters into the democratic ballot box is not traditional democrats, those votes can already be tallied.  The only place to bring new voters to the democratic box is moderate dems, independents, and moderate Republicans.

Her caucus excuse stinks like a skunk.  Her racial scapegoating is sickening.  Obama won Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, and Missouri, all of which are primaries, and the last four of which don't have disproportional represenation of minorities.  

So, I don't know, is she being honest?  I don't think so...
She was stating what she thinks to be true. She will win Texas and Ohio and if it goes farther than that, she will pick up Pennsylvania as well. She is correct.Then she will have momentum and the Obama folks will be whining about superdelegates.
"...Question: Sure Ohio is a swing state, but does Clinton really see Texas going from red to blue in 2008?)..."

Your Obama-Rama-Ding-Dong bias betrays you again.
How about asking if any single one of the Red-States that Obama won like Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, or South Carolina would swing Blue just for Obama?
We all know the answer to that question.
First Read, you are once again re-defining the meaning of the term "YELLOW JOURNALISM."

I am for Obama and was at Caucus in Washington state on Saturday. It was amazing and I see a real cross section of support.  I still dont' understand how he's not getting credit for winning states that are not heavy in african american base.  He's winning everywhere and by a couple of touchdowns. She seems to have written off that demographic completely. He is gaining in her base demographics.

Texas and Ohio are going to be huge. I hope that Obama could steal one of those states and split the other.  That would be HUGE for him.
Wow, just wow.  the arrogance on display here is unbelievable.

It's OK though Hillary - the first stage is always denial.
FLIP FLOPPA OBAMA:  I just heard on the news that Obama has changed his view on the troop withdrawal. He is now evidently supporting Hillary Clinton's stand. Obama, your judgment before just shows how inexperienced you are in real issues. You should get some facts and experience before you make bad decisions.
Hillary has been right all along on the way the troop withdrawal should be conducted.
Also, I can't see John Edwards supporting Obama because Hillary is must closer to John Edwards on the issues. John and Hillary both support universal healthcare, Obama doesn't.
Ohioans will look at Obama's winning streak as true wins.  It doesn't matter if they were "expected" or not.  The average voter dosn't know what states are "expected" to go to which candidate.  Hillary is showing a very unappealing quality that our current leader has - inability to admit the truth & admit mistakes.  The truth is momentum is building in Ohio towards Obama - he has the most delegates, the most states, and the most votes.  
Does she want to be President of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or does she just want to be President of the "big" states?  
She is also in denial about the delegate count...she is now behind. She is also behind in the Popular vote.  Denial is the first symptom in Dis"ease".  
Bush just endorsed Hillary! If McCain or Hillary win, Bush wins. More war, more tax breaks for the ultra-rich.

Hillary=Bush in a nylons.
I think it is Barack Obama who doesn't wish to speak to reality. He's still in Mr. Rogers neighborhood. All fluff and no substance. Read Paul Krugman's column today on the venom spewing from the Obama camp. So much for the new politics. And read the piece in the NY Times about Obambi caving in to the special interests. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know.
The new President Bush is Barack Obama. No plans, no substance, and he votes present 130 times in the Illinois legislature to avoid taking tough stances. Hillary is not perfect, but she is smarter than Obama and her followers haven't started acting like they belong to a cult of personality.
Agreed.
DONT WORRY OBAMA IS THE CANIADATE ,MSNBC AND CNN AND FOX MADE SURE YOU GOT WHAT THEY WANTED IT.HILLIARY IS HISTORY.ENJOY CHANGE WITHOUT PURPOSE and REPUBLICANS WHO FIGHT YOU CHANGE EVERY STEP.
So OH and TX are the new fire wall...after CA was the fire wall on Feb 5th...after NH was the original fire wall. Sooner or later you have to win the states between the fire walls or the fire will get out of control. I suspect the Obama fire is already out of control and that he will burn through one of the states in the next fire wall. I wonder...is the next fire wall after TX and OH the super delegates.
LET ME SEE  HILLARY SAYS ALL THE STATES OBAMA WON WERE BECAUSE  THE VOTERS WERE WELL OFF DEMOCRATS, IT WAS A CAUCUS STATE, THE BLACK VOTE, IT WAS BORDERING HIS HOME STATE, IT BECAUSE HE HAD FAMILY CONECTION TO THE STATE AND ON AND ON AND ON.WHAT ARE HILLARY REASON FOR WINNING THE STATES SHE WON?
Hey Lance.. .
I have received that Hillary message board template too
.. Obama... no experience.... Rezko..... Cult.... present votes.....

How would you like it if someoen inspired you and all of a sudden everyone called you a cult follower?
For the record, look at their advisors...
Clinton has selected people who agreed with the Iraq invasion (with the exception of Clark) and Obama has surrounded himself with people who opposed the Iraq war.
Clintonistas are a cult!!!!
I am a life-long Democrat.  I have voted for only one Republican in a general election in my life: Ronald Reagan.  This year, I cast my vote for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Primary in Missouri.  Of all candidates on the ballot this year, Senator Clinton most closely matches the priorities that I deem important in these unsettled times: 1)  A prudent end to the Iraq War while maintaining a strong defense against terrorist threats that will certainly continue to plaque the civilized world.   2)  A fiscally responsible plan to restore the economic health of the nation without increasing an already ballooning national deficit.  3)  A real attempt to gain universal health coverage for all citizens with few, if any, loopholes for people to ‘opt out’.  4)  An energy policy that provides real incentive for alternative fuels while reining in the power of big oil.  This is in stark contrast with Senator Barak Obama, who I perceive as having little or no experience, record, or plan for dealing with any of these issues.

Unfortunately, my preferred candidate did not win the majority of votes in Missouri, although she did win in 109 of the 114 counties in Missouri and narrowly lost in Cole and Nodaway Counties.  Senator Clinton actually won Jackson County, but lost in the City of Kansas City which is not separate from Jackson County as the City of St. Louis is separate from St. Louis County.

I am very concerned at the trends I see in Missouri and throughout the country as Senator Obama is championed by many elements in the media as racking up enormous wins.  There are even statements that he is doing so well in “red” states.  Do you really believe that a ticket headed by Senator Obama will win states like Utah, North Dakota, Idaho and the like?  I doubt it.  Similarly, Senator Obama will have a very difficult time winning Missouri if his only base of support is Kansas City and St. Louis.  It appears to me that his appeal is primarily to African-Americans and those whom I refer to as “high-brow liberals” – highly educated, well off financially.  Senator Clinton has demonstrated appeal to those of us who are more conservative or moderate in nature.  In other words, she is appealing to ‘Reagan Democrats’.  If you look at the Missouri exit polls, you will find that 24% of Democratic Primary voters would not be satisfied with anyone on the ticket except Senator Clinton (21%) or were not satisfied with any of the current candidates on the ticket (3%).   These are ‘Reagan Democrats’ who are just looking to be harvested by a conservative, but not right-wing candidate such as Senator John McCain.

I would encourage my party to take a long, hard look at the exit polls coming out of states like Missouri, Tennessee, Arkansas, and even California.  Democrats are on the verge of nominating a candidate who probably cannot win any state south of the Mason-Dixon Line, any border state, and maybe not even California.  If such occurs, it will because of Democrats like me who will be casting our vote for Senator McCain.
It sounds like she's trying to divide the Democratic Party. And, that doesn't sound like a very good strategy for taking back the Whie House.
I care what people in alaska think come on ,they didnt attack Iowa they attacked NY thats the problem with MSNBC and a few select people like you and all your rich educated college friends, we are represented not by the few but the many so move to a BLUE state or shut up
Obama has yet to win a single major industrial state except his own state of IL.  He can win all the small so-called "red states" he wants, but if he can't win in NY, CA, FL, MI, NJ, OH, TX, or PA, he has no business being the nominee.  Ohio and Texas are coming up.  He has a huge opportunity to prove to us that he can WIN in these major states.  If he can't prove it, he should withdraw his candidacy and not be a spoiler for the GOP.
If the Clintons loose in Ohio or Texas does that mean that she will pull out of the race?  Or will the arrogance keep them pushing for Super Delegates to consider her the winner.
Arrogance here, indeed. Of course, we ARE reading from the MOST OBAMA-BIASED network on TV, front-runner to CNN.

I am actually from Texas. And the support here for Hillary is amazing.

I think we can all agree that nothing has been predicted correctly by anyone. Not the nay-saying bloggers, not the pundits, not even Wolf Blitzer and whatever that jerk's name is that made the "Chelsea being pimped out" comment.

SEXISM SEXISM SEXISM

This woman is so out of touch with reality. She is about to get a BIG wake up call. She is another George Bush on steriods.
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know.

Clinton is not perfect but she doesn't avoid voting in issues. Obama avoids voting in the senate just so it doesn't come back to bite him. what a coward.

If Obama wind the nomination eh will be a 4year president.

Obama=Bush

No independent thinking. Just do as you are told.
(Question: Sure Ohio is a swing state, but does Clinton really see Texas going from red to blue in 2008?)
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Ok, so if the reporter is going to knock her on saying she would do well in the TX primary, but then go on to say she implied that she could turn TX from red to blue, then why is everyone making a big deal about Obama winning primaries in other Southern states that will never be anything but red states?
It is going to be so sweet to see the former First Lady and Sitting Senator Clinton pounce the PeP Rally (Crock-r-us') Presidential nominee called Obama.  Get a grip folks--this is strategy and he is losing. Those wins are mainly the "Crock-us" forums and a joke. In my state I had one hour between 6-7pm to show up.  Furthermore if you think he is tapping in to her base--guess again--He is the black candidate and they are so ignorant they do not even realize he is mulatto and they are voting for a half truth based on pride.  I guess this redefines the "Black Pride" movement to the "1/2 Black Deride" movement that he has perpetuated subliminally.
Hillary is generic next to Barack. All of her answers during the debate season were lacking in specifics and built around her "supposed" 35 years of helping us all. PLEASE. As for Krugman, whom I respect, he has an opinion like everyone else. An OPINION. Nothing more, and nothing less.
Interesting, after McCain  loses two out of three, his response is "we have more work to do".

After Clinton loses four straight, her campaign response is basically "those states don't count."

It seems there's a different excuse for each of the 20+ losses incurred this year... that's the black state, the organized state, the smart state, the men state, the working state, etc. etc.  And my favorite: that's a state democrats don't win.

Question: why would we want to nominate someone for our party is ready to conceed half the nation before the first ballot is cast??  Personally, I think the whole country is looking for change.

You know Senator Clinton, you know that you are right.  You know, after all we don't need a President that inspires people, we need, you know, a President that works hard and intruding into every American's life as possible.  

For those that haven't picked up on it yet "you know" gets really annoying if it is used so many times in every speach.  I am not a Senator Obama supporter, but I can see that he is inspiring people to vote.  Seems like Senator Clinton already hit her high water mark and all after is decline.  The tid-bits about the "super delegates" only reenforces my belief that she will use any trick available to win.  That strategy will only result in her not winning the general election.  Do we really need another president that polarizes everyone?  And pardon me if it sounds to me like she was saying that small states don't really count as long as she gets the big states.  Doesn't sound like an all inclusive mentality to me.
I agree with Lance in Ste. Genevieve, MO... I watched a complete Obama speech on TV this weekend, and I did not hear one single word of specifics in the entire thing.  It was amazing oratory, but it was all fluff... it was like, "I'm for motherhood and apple pie" and the crowds cheered.  Well, DUH, aren't we ALL for motherhood and apple pie???  I was stunned that he spoke for all that time and said absolutely NOTHING that had anything to do with BEING PRESIDENT.  I'm beginning to think this really IS a fairy tale!!!!!
Awwwwwwwwwwww, J. Merle, ready to become a McCain Democrat. We will Not miss You, because Reagon Democrat's are coming Home in DROVES as witnessed by voter turnout across America.Obamaramadingdong that, you sore Loser. The air is very Rare indeed in Weschester, NY. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love seeing You Explode Daily. Absolutely Love it!


Barack Obama for President!
J. Merle,
What the heck is "yellow journalism"? And what are you talking about red states turning blue for Obama? Are you blind to reality? Don't you know that these red states simply did not "turn blue" to vote for Obama. They remain staunchly Republican because of their southern upbringing. They voted for Obama because they saw the polarizing and divisive nature of Hillary Clinton, not because they turned into blue states. Simply put, they want change. You should not separate America into 2 different colors. America is one and it wants change as demonstrated by the overwhelming support from Americans across all political perspectives.
The only reason you can expect Hillary to win in Texas is because of the Hispanics.
Maybe Clinton can hang on in OH for 2 weeks in the face of overwhelming evidence she is less electable and fairs poorly vs. McCain.  I wouldn't bet on it though.  

Even if she does, NE+LA+WA+ME+VA+MD+DC > OH+TX in delegates.  Assuming Obama puts up a margin of 5%+ tomorrow night, she is going to have to win HUGE in OH & TX to have a shot.
Jaycee. Now ask yourself the question, why would the republicans need to rally their forces to defeat Clinton if she is so unelectable? It is so illogical to suggest that if Obama is the nominee that conservatives or the right wing media are going to let him have a cake walk to the White House, they will swiftboat him so fast your head will spin. My preference is for President Hillary Clinton, but I would nave no heartburn if Obama were to win. I do worry about him and his supporters using conservative/ media talking points to trash the Clintons, it borders on the petulant.  
Barack is a fraud! This guy is a huge lier and the American people would be fools to nominate this guy, who nobody knows about. Its Bush all over again.
As a Florida voter, I take exception that Hillary claims to have won the majority of votes, which is only true if you add in Florida and Michigan.  I also take exception to MSNBC and other media outlets continuing to display on their maps that both Florida and Michigan were won by Hillary.  For those that say Florida should count, I say, we did not have a rally, a commercial, a direct mail piece, a robo call or any other type of campaign here in Florida.  Hillary won here because absent a campaign, she was able to hold on to the lead that she had across the country back in October. For those that continue to say that doesn't matter, I would say why campaign in any other states going forward?  Lets just have everyone vote now and give the nomination to Hillary!
All I can say is as we chat about small talk like this issue, Republicans are uniting. The Democrats MUST remain united; men/women, old/young, black/white/Asian/Hispanic and all races.  We will never take back America to create change/jobs/battle climate change/gain world respect for America if we divide as Democrats. Lets cut the mud slinging and UNITE!
Paul Krugman's article in the NYT today was completely accurate and well written. It simply echos the thoughts of all of us Democrats who care about issues, not fluff and cult-like fanaticism. It is so true that Obama supporters comments as a whole just drip with venom and vile hatred. That is NOT a message of "hope", it's a message of "hate". Rallying impressionable students into thinking you are a rock star and getting them to vote for you as if it was "American Idol", that is not an accomplishment...that is brainwashing from the cult of a self-named Prophet. Go read the article! Hillary For President...Experience Matters!
Who is the Queen of Denial?  I think it is a culmination of all of the recent news combined. The $5 million loan to the campaign.  Sure...she is raising more money, or so they say.  The replacement of Doyle for blowing through campaign funds in Iowa?  
JERRY YOU WANNA BUY AN OBAMA IN 2012 SHIRT IM SURE YOUR GONNA LOVE THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS OF UNBRIDLED LIBRELISM AND RADICAL LEFT COMMUNISTIC SOCIAL PROGRAMS ENJOY.YOU CANT STOP IT ONCE THEY START IT THEY BEING THE MEDIA.
She's blind.
Billary wants the power, not the job.  I guess everyone forgot that she was going to FIX health care when she was first lady.  She didn't do a very good job.
Hillary Clinton seems to be running a text book Washington insiders campaign and it’s not her fault.  She is one of them and thinks like them!  This is all she knows and that is why the American people are speaking from Washington St. to Maine of who their chose is.  To dismiss states as black populated or caucuses or etc.  is a slap in the voter face.  This shows that she is willing to do anything to win but I’m here to say Obama’s candidacy exposes this fatally flawed thinking.  Momentum is momentum and changing politics is just that not keeping with the status quo of talking points when down and not acknowledging with respect other realities.  Woe unto her if she fails to win all of the big states like Ohio and Texas!  I’m sure her talking points will be how she has a plan to secure superdeligates.  It’s time to turn the page people!!!
Obama has not won "everywhere"...only a typical mindless Obama supporter would make a comment so ridiculous as that...Guess what people???  As the disillusioned press failed to report, HILLARY HAS WON: 1.  FLORIDA (SEAT THESE DELAGTES, OR PAY THE PRICE) 2.  New York  3.  Massachusetts   4.  CALIFORNIA....and you better be ready for Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania to grab back a hold of this country and stop this non-sense from going any further.

OBAMA = HUGE LOSER TO ANY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE  (JUST TRY AND DEFEND HIS RECORD, which is highly hypocritical in his current arguments...i.e. Dick Cheney's energy bill, which he voted for, and the fact that he has voted twice now to give more $$$ to the war in Iraq, even though he claims ahe absolutely opposes the war...NOT TO MENTION, HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH the known CRIMINAL REZKO).  FOX NEWS WILL JUMP ALL OVER THESE STORIES and the fact that he is a total rookie that no one could trust with National Securitry, and will bring record TAX HIKES to the table IF HE IS NOMINATED...HE WOULD LOSE BIG!!!!!  WALL STREET WILL HATE HIM!!!!!

HILLARY CLINTON IN 2008, ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!



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