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Oh-eight (D): Hillary's 'super' problem

Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:05 AM by Mark Murray
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Per the AP, “In a Feb. 8 letter to DNC Chairman Howard Dean, NAACP chairman Julian Bond expressed "great concern at the prospect that million of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely discounted." Refusing to seat the states' delegations could remind voters of the "sordid history of racially discriminatory primaries," he said.”

But Al Sharpton counters with this letter to Dean: “I write this letter as
a former Democratic candidate for President of the United States and a civil rights leader who has fought his entire life for fairness and justice for all people regardless of the color of their skin. I firmly believe that changing the rules now, and seating delegates from Florida and Michigan at this point would not only violate the Democratic party's rules of fairness, but also would be a grave injustice.”

CLINTON: The AP’s Ron Fournier writes, “For years, Bill and Hillary Clinton treated the Democratic National Committee and party activists as extensions of their White House ambitions, pawns in a game of success and survival. She may pay a high price for their selfishness soon. Top Democrats, including some inside Hillary Clinton's campaign, say many party leaders — the so-called superdelegates — won't hesitate to ditch the former New York senator for Barack Obama if her political problems persist. Their loyalty to the first couple is built on shaky ground.”

The timing of deputy campaign manager Mike Henry's resignation wasn't helpful to Team Clinton. The news came just as returns were rolling in and the Obama onslaught was on. Henry, of course, made the most news this cycle when his memo suggesting the campaign skip Iowa was leaked. In Henry's defense, what would this race look like if his advice had been followed? What would Clinton's financial situation look like if his advice had been followed? Last night's losses for Clinton in Virginia was probably particularly stinging to Henry, since his most recent campaign success took place in Virginia, where he guided Tim Kaine to victory in the 2005 Old Dominion gubernatorial race.

“Trying to overcome a string of losses and a staff shake-up, Hillary Rodham Clinton sought new energy Tuesday night from a boisterous crowd of about 12,000 in a state [Texas] she hopes will provide a rebound in her quest for the Democratic presidential nomination.” More: “But her sights were set on the March 4 Texas and Ohio primaries and on President Bush.”

OBAMA: In Wisconsin today, Obama is giving what his campaign is billing as a major economic speech. Per excerpts, Obama will say: “We are not standing on the brink of recession due to forces beyond our control. The fallout from the housing crisis that’s cost jobs and wiped out savings was not an inevitable part of the business cycle. It was a failure of leadership and imagination in Washington – the culmination of decades of decisions that were made or put off without regard to the realities of a global economy and the growing inequality it’s produced.”

Apology watch? Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, former chairman of the DNC and former Philadelphia mayor, who endorsed Clinton on Jan. 23, said, "You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate.” As evidence, Rendell cited his own run against African American and former Steelers wide receiver Lynn Swann. "I believe, looking at the returns in my election, that had Lynn Swann been the identical candidate that he was -- well-spoken, charismatic, good-looking -- but white instead of black, instead of winning by 22 points, I would have won by 17 or so," Rendell said. "And that (attitude) exists. But on the other hand, that is counterbalanced by Obama's ability to bring new voters into the electoral pool."

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More of the same from the Hillary campaign. Rendell is just another version of Bill Clinton feeding the masses racist comments hoping that they will stick.

The Clintons continue to claim they are the first black President. Just what again did they ever do for blacks?
I bet you if Obama was the winner of Florida & Michigan you'll be singing a different tune.You are just promoting Obama, he does'nt have the substance or experience to be president of this country. How can he win? Did'nt win NY, CA, FLA, NJ, MA, MI even among democrats?
Only Clinton was on the ballot in Michigan.  All the press (local & national) harped that the results wouldn't count.  So, I voted in the R primary for Guiliani.  But now, Hillary want this 'meaningless primary counted?  give me a break.  More inside politics -- this is making Obama's case for him.  People will see through her desperation and dishonesty and speak loud and clear march 4th.
Governor Rendell is sadly showing not just his debt to the Clintons but his age and, to my surprise, a weirdly regressive view of his electorate and his party. He outdummied  Bill Clinton himself who wrote off Obama's win in South Carolina as 'just like what that other black candidate, Jesse Jackson did' in the Clinton era.  According to our governor, Obama's just like Lynn Swann- charming and good looking, but black. Yikes!!!  Which millenium is this?
It is not only Hillary's "SUPER" problem. It is Hillary's "SUPERNATURAL" problem. She is fighting a match that has already been decided in Heaven. God says Barack Obama is the next sherpherd of the American people. So Hillary is fighting an invisible hand and in invincible power that is backing Obama. The Man Upstairs has already finished with this race and He has made Obama the winner. Whether we wait to see what will happen in TX or OH, that will not change the divine backing that is behind Obama. I am telling you folks. Mark my words. No one can defeat this young fellow. McCain has no slice of a chance for the White House. Those of you who don't like Obama may need to try getting used to seeing him in the Rose Garden.
I fully believe the Clintons were responsible for bringing race into the race before South Carolina - and I fully understand that Clinton supporters will reject that notion. But I mention it just to qualify my next comment.

I don't see anything wrong with Rendall's statement. Its political analysis, and probably accurate analysis. Given everything that's happened in this campaign, he may have been wiser not to say it. But it would take an overly sensitized audience to see his comments as race baiting.
Well, sense Julian Bond is working with the Clinton campaign, it's no wonder he feels this way.Al Sharpton said last night he had remained Nuetral.
With the situation from 2000, you'd have thought that in 8 years, Florida could've resolved election issues, but No they can't.The very reason why they have this is because the Voter's of Florida Elected these Officials to govern the state legislature. That puts the onus on the Voter's who elected these officials.Now they wanna Whine because the Very People They elected have screwed them.I say, tuff S--T!Florida made the United States of America have to live with Florida's Incompetence since 2000 with GWB. Now they want to count Hillary's votes & Force another Unqualified candidate upon us. America is Sick & Tired of Florida's Incompetence with election's. Florida can live with it, America does'nt have to!

Barack Obama for President!!!!!!!!
Ed Rendell needs to issue an apology. If we listen to him then living in America is a hopeless venture for millions of African Americans and other ethnic groups. He is telling us that Blacks are expected to vote for whites but there is something wrong with whites voting for blacks. If he ever runs for office again voters should remember his horrible comments.Clinton should get him out of her campaign asap. This the old thinking of people whose day has come and gone. He is out of touch. If voters in PA are racist then he should be trying to do something positive about it, not feeding into it and making excuses for it. These are the people Clinto has surrounded her-self with.
Hillary won't win the general election if she even gets the dem nomination. Here is just a few points.
1. If she losses an election, she does not even have the habit to say thank you even for those who voted for her.  This shows how much she is selfish.
2. When she losses an election, she used to excus like they do not vote for dem party, they are blacks , they are small and insignigicant for the general election bla bla bla. What do all these tell? She is a racist and she also does not stand for the right of small states, another point of her selfishness.
3.She does every thing to get elected. She can say any thing just to get elected. What does it mean?  How is  that possible for some one to do every thing? Are really folk foolish failing to understand the constraints in the real world and just accept her voice straight? This is a big point where she is lying, chaning position ....
4.Why can not she return her tax card and let people know? she said if i get the dem nomination, i would do. Is it a give and take system? why is she afraid of showing it? I think the media has to make things clear. This issue has to be discussed with all the respects.
I think we are forgetting about something here "Our Country". Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell said "You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate.” It's not about being white or black or red anymore is about who is able to run the country better and bring it back on track. It's like my grandfather usd to say why would you go out and clean someone elses house when the mesiest of all is your own. This government is trying to fix other countries while their own is falling apart. I'm not allowed to vote because i'm not a citizen but i still pay my taxes and work hard to earn my money while other people are just sitting at home waiting for the goverment check to come in. And the homeless who are out on the street get no help because they don't have a home. How many people haven't lost their home and ask them ifit was because of their color. So why should we look at Obamas color if he is the one who is going to help us clean our house, Our Country. But is up to you you can either help him or get out of the way and let him do what needs to be done.
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHO THIS LARRY SINCLAIR IS?
I FIRST SAW THIS POSTED ON FIRST READ BUT NOW I HAVE SEEN IT ON SEVERAL OTHER WEB SITES.LARRY SINCLAIR HAS PUT UP SOME VERY ANTI-OBAMA TERRIBLE IMMORAL VIDEOS ON U-TUBE.
HE ALSO FILED A LAWSUIT ACCORDING TO SOME POSTERS AND ALSO THIS ARTICLE.  HE FILED IT ON FEBRUARY 11 AGAINST
OBAMA,OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER AND HOWARD DEAN.
HERE IS THE LINK  http://caosblog.com/7245

WHO IS THIS PERSON, LARRY SINCLAIR?  WHY HAS THE MEDIA NOT REPORTED ON THIS BEFORE NOW? PLEASE GIVE US SOME EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS TRUE OR UNTRUE.
If Obama gets more delagates than clintonthe baby boomers and the over 60 will vote for Mccain.We will need someone to be able to take over and run this country from day one.Obama isn'the one.All the people under 40 go for Obama but not the baby boomers and i have five of them.Bill clinton is right give me a break.Obama hasn't been up in washington even two years and he has said he never got into washington but he knew it need a change .Every one in this country knows that we need a change but not a black president.If he did get to be president i believe the first thing he would do is start pardoning the blacks from prison.It is said that 80% of the people in prison are black.Hillary was right that Obama worked five months as a lawyer for a slum lord.The slum lord owned the house the Obamas live in they got it for one million dollars.It is a (four million dollar house).The Ilinois state government is investigating it.Obama has said that it is a mistake he wished he didn't make.If he works for some one five months and gets a home worth four million and got to be president it looks like he will work for anyone that would line his pockets.We already have a president like that.if he gets the democrated vote and runs for the presidency the baby boomers and the over 60 will vote for Mc cain.by the way Obama isn't an american according to Teddy Roosevelhe said to be an American you shall have no other name before you.Obamas African American.He is not from Africa. the blacks tried to get our government to give them money because Ronald Reagon gave the japanes that were still alive and were put in detention moneycan you imagine that.
Sad to see Julian Bond reduced to such a shill.

The Democrats of Fl and Mi were ill-served by their party leaders.  Clintons want to claim a 'win' in a game Obama did not play.  The question Mr. Bond should ask is, "Why are millions of Floridians and Michiganders (or whatever they are) not allowed to vote for Obama?"

Julian Bond, join the other old-timers at a rest home; you, too, are old news.
Memo to Barack Obama:If you should fail to become president of the United states of America, please come to Canada , become a Canadian citizen and run for the Prime Ministers Office. You are exactly what the USA and Canada both need in leadership.
I bet you if Obama was the winner of Florida & Michigan you'll be singing a different tune.

Slow down, Meg. Start with the premise the the field agreed not to compete in MI/FL, then go to the fact that only one candidate was on the ballot in MI and tell me why they should count in the least.

Re: CA, MA, NJ & NY, Obama in second place handily beat the R winner in each state, so no doubt he'd carry those states.

I could see having a sanctioned primary in MI & FL which is contested and counts--and gives Ds a chance to boost chances in the fall in those states, but right or wrong, the DNC--and candidates agreed up front those primaries were not to be contested or counted.
10 Bucks says 'Lynne, AR' is actually Larry Sinclair trying to get people to view these incredibly idiotic videos.
I can't believe that Ed Rendell actually opened his mouth to make a comment like that.  Even if his stats are true what was the point of even stating it?  The Clintons believe in engaging in nastiest of political strategies, and surrounding themselves with like minded people is more proof.  That is exactly why so many are in direct opposition to another Clinton in office.  She is the very representation of typical divisive politics which had left so many Americans with a bad taste in their mouths.  She needs to wise up and denounce that idiot's comments ASAP.
Obama will get the under forty year old votes but he will not get the baby boomers and the over 60 votes.There is still racism in this country.I will vote for the person who can start running this country on day one and that will not be Obama.It is said that the republicans are pushing for Obama because most of america will not vote for a black person.I myself and my 5 baby boomers will vote republican.
you will not read about sinclair on msnbc----it is one of those things that is pretty much hid---maybe that is what Matthews felt running up his leg last night---barf
I hope Mr. Julian Bond sees this. You are doing the NACP and all of the AfricanAmerican voters a great disservice by requesting the the votes of Florida and Michigan be counted. It will be a sad commentary when an African American leads the way to prevent another African American from geting something that he has worked so hard for and truly deserves. Be Ashamed! Mr. Bond
If I were managing Hillary's camp, I would fire all the idiots who told her that race baiting was a good idea.  These people are making Hillary look horrible.  Do her advisors think that the American people is stupid?  Why would anyone think counting MI and FL is fair?  She was the only name on the ballot in MI, and the rules were agreed to by all candidates before the race even started.  These type of tactics makes her look dishonest and desparate.  Her advisors are a bunch of completely out of touch morons.  Obama never had to go negative on Hillary not even once.  These idiots single handely detroyed her campaign all on their own.

BTW: Why are Floridian always screwing up elections.
Everybody is "nice nice" with Hilary and the primary is on the hight road but when they begin the hard ball game and the history of Hilary is reviewed and she is swiftboated over travelgate, bluestain gate,
free healthcaregate debacle, no soldier in uniform in the Whitehouse Gate and on and on, she would loose to Bush if he ran again.....
The above posters are so obviously bias its infuriating.  The very things you paint against Mrs. Clinton are the same strategies that Mr. Obama does when he has lost.  He is doing so much rallying not because he is actually in position to be the next President, because he needs to create an illusion to further his momentum.  The media is on board, so Hillary will have a difficult race, but to question her committment to other people is insane.  It is Obama supporters themselves, a reflection of the Obama campaign itself, that assures me if he is victorious against Mrs. Clinton, my vote is going to McCain in the general election.
BTW: Why are Floridian always screwing up elections.

FJ, Philadelphia Pa
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Because they're not Floridians. They're transplants from everywhere else who happen to live here now.
If Florida and Michigan are to be counted they definately have to recast their primary, The current democratic primaries are completely irrellevent since only hillary who went against the part rules was even on the ballot.
Rendell is an pathetic lackey of Billary. Swann failed to become governor because he was a political lightweight, just a famous and pretty face. It had nothing to do with race.
Hey! Don't count out the baby boomers and us old folks. We may be old but we aren't stupid. I am 72 and have been out there campaigning for Obama. For once in my long lifetime I will have the opportunity to vote for a statesman rather than choose the lesser of evils between politicians.
"...some inside Hillary Clinton's campaign, say many party leaders — the so-called superdelegates — won't hesitate to ditch the former New York senator for Barack Obama if her political problems persist. Their loyalty to the first couple is built on shaky ground.” ..."

Really? Hmmm, apparently Ron Fornier of The Associated Press doesn't know that Hillary Clinton is the CURRENT Junior Senator from The State of New York.
See folks? THIS is what we who support Hillary are talking about when we speak of despicable, disgusting, vile, putrid, OBSCENE media bias during this primary-election cycle.
Can't wait to see your faces when McCain WHOOPS Obama in the general.
Governor Rendell is sadly showing not just his debt to the Clintons but his age and, to my surprise, a weirdly regressive view of his electorate and his party. He outdummied  Bill Clinton himself who wrote off Obama's win in South Carolina as 'just like what that other black candidate, Jesse Jackson did' in the Clinton era.  According to our governor, Obama's just like Lynn Swann- charming and good looking, but black. Yikes!!!  Which millenium is this?

As a white guy that has always worked to be fair in my dealings with members of all races it is upsetting to see that the Obama team seems to try to make any statement about black voting habits into some sort of racial code or bias.  Black individuals form a block and to acknowledge this fact has nothing to do with race and everything to do with political reality.

It is also not racial to acknowledge that some people will not vote for blacks just because they are black.  It is a fact and if one intends to win in November it is a fact that must be addressed in some way.
What is racial is the constant attempt by some to brand individuals as racist to achieve a political end.

Watching the Obama speech in Wi last night, it took on the appearance of an anti war, anti hate, anti ignorance rally. The response from the crowd on war comments was as far as i could tell the largest perhaps only eclipsed by the crowd response to the man himself.

The issue that appears to be deciding this (and it was used by McCain in his speech last night as well and is on NPR this morning) is war, hate, narrow minded ness.
An invitation to Americans to wake up and think, to
stop allowing skilled language manipulators to tell you how to think and feed you opinion.

Mindset was a word used by Obama last night as well and as far as I know, a new 'concept' for his campaign. The change we seek is us and the change needed the most is for all of us to think for ourselves in a rational way.

If you are in the camp that believes that the Clintons can not win against McCain and that makes you feel comfortable or smug in your resolve to vote Obama, please think again and go out and find a Clnton supporter and rationally get their opinion on war, hate and mindset. Do what you can to wake them from their daze. They have been hypnotized.

There is plenty of time left for plenty of work to be done to remove the Clintons from the scene.

It's not too late to break the spell.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

The NAACP header is simply trash talking. He is pandering to Hillary's side. It is the rules, stupid NAACP, that Obama, Edwards, Clinton and others agreed last year and Clinton, along with her puppet "experience crybabies", is trying to change the ruels so that things are her way. The same thing with Bush, who often remains defiant until Congress gives in to his ways. This is "either my way or the highway" strategy being employed by th Clintons.
I tell you my fellow Americans, Clinton is no doubt a hypocrite. I recently heard her talking about how much she wanted DC residents to ahve full voting rights, while during her husband's presidency and DC residents' demands for more voting rights, she did absolutely nothing. She will only do you a favor when things don't turn her way. If this election season had strongly favored her, she won't have given a damn about anything.
Democrats better think what to do with Fl & Michigan, b/c they may loose their vote in general election. If you don't us now , don.t count us in general election.
"...some inside Hillary Clinton's campaign, say many party leaders — the so-called superdelegates — won't hesitate to ditch the former New York senator for Barack Obama if her political problems persist. Their loyalty to the first couple is built on shaky ground.” ..."

Really? Hmmm, apparently Ron Fornier of The Associated Press doesn't know that Hillary Clinton is the CURRENT Junior Senator from The State of New York.
See folks? THIS is what we who support Hillary are talking about when we speak of despicable, disgusting, vile, putrid, OBSCENE media bias during this primary-election cycle.
Can't wait to see your faces when McCain WHOOPS Obama in the general.

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:51 AM)

So are you conceding that Obama will win the nomination?
Gov. Ed Rendell (Pennsylvania), one of Hillary Rodham Clinton's most visible supporters, said some white Pennsylvanians are likely to vote against her rival Barack Obama because he is black.

"You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate," Rendell told the editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in remarks that appeared in Tuesday's paper.

Once again the Clinton Campaign sends out one of their Lackeys to Race-bait the electorate.

Gov. Rendell is a Lying, Racist Bigot! He should resign immediately!

1.  True "Conservatives" regardless of color do not vote for Liberals.  (Senor Juan McCain will find this out soon)

2.  It is Racist White Liberals that will not vote for Obama. This should make the Clintons happy….They are winning 100% of the White Racist votes!

3. The truth is that the Democratic Party is full of Racist and the reason they set up there nomination process the way it is, was to keep Blacks from ever winning the nomination!

What will Black Voters do after the Clintons and the Democratic Party steals the Nomination from Mr. Obama???
To all my LATINO brothers and sisters "SI SE PUEDE"
WE WANT CHANGE. OBAMA is that change.
We don't want what we have had the past 20 years.
We need a new direction. "peace"
It seems to me gen-x and younger finds it much easier to judge a candidate based on the content of their character whereas the new senior citizens- the baby boom generation- can't see past the packaging.  I'm a gen-x family man and hope my kids don't have to suffer the ideological battles of the last century.  We have our own NEW problems- like how to take care of our baby boom parents who spent all their retirement money on fancy cars and fake boobs!
DOLORES SAID: Obama will get the under forty year old votes but he will not get the baby boomers and the over 60 votes.

SORRY DOLORES - HE ALREADY HAS THOSE VOTES - READ THE STATISTICS FROM HIS LATEST SWEEP.  Obama SWEPT ALL voter groups.  Read it and weep...
If Florida and Michigan are to be counted they definately have to recast their primary, The current democratic primaries are completely irrellevent since only hillary who went against the part rules was even on the ballot.

Nicholas, Denver, CO

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I can't speak for Michigan, but all candidates were listed on Florida's ballots. Florida primary is closed--only registered Dems vote for Dems, Repubs for Repubs (independents can't vote)--so Clinton's win here was exactly that: a win.
Meg,
the rules were put on place by the Clintons. Now that they're losing, they want to change them?
Sore loser!
I would rather vote for someone with a plan, than for a lofty, unattainable dream. Do Democrats really believe that independents and republicans, who are voting for Obama, will stay with him in November. There are no Obamacans. McCain has the republican nomination wrapped up, and many republicans are voting for Obama because they know he will be easier to defeat in November.  I am also greatly offended by the racism claims against the Clintons and the white population in general. The election results have shown that close to 50 % of the white voters are voting for Obama in many states. Less than 50% for white females: more than 50% for white males. Yet nothing is said about the 80-90% of the black vote going to Obama. Which group is letting race determine their vote? Leno went out on the streets of New York to see who the average person on the street was going to vote for……all the blacks said they were voting for Obama…some didn’t even know his name….they just said they were going to vote for the black guy. Many voters didn’t recognize photographs of any of the candidates. I guess Leno was right, we get what we deserve. Let’s face the facts, the average voter bases his or her vote on a few TV ads and on what the press leads them to believe. Very few voters dig deeper to see how each candidate stands on the issues. Please, for the sake of the Democratic Party, base your vote on the issues. Remember that there are no Obamacans. Republicans will vote for McCain in November and our nation will be doomed to 4 more years of the same.
Eight out of the 9 polls taken the first 10 days of February showing Obama beating McCain, with only the NPR poll showing a McCain win by 1 point (within the margin of error).  In a McCain-Clinton matchup, 6 of those polls show a win for McCain, 2 for Clinton, and one a tie.  So who is the most electable candidate?  Obama.  He has won 21 states to Hillary's 10.  As someone pointed out, he didn't win NY.  Well, duh, that is her home state BUT he did win 40% of the vote, so what does that tell you.

Of the Democratic candidates he has the most legislative experience.  And even if he didn't, this country certainly couldn't do any worse than Bush Lite whose only experience was being a governor in a state where the governor has almost no power (except to fry people).  And your VP and cabinet help round out the experience . . . no candidate comes to the table with experience in all areas.  If they did, they could also walk on water.

If the Dems want to win in November they HAVE to put forth a candidate who can beat McCain and the polls indicate that that is Obama, not Clinton.

If the DNC allows Michigan and Florida to count, then those states need to redo their primaries.  Only Clinton and Kucinich were on the MI ballot because the DNC asked the candidates not to have their names on the ballot.  Of course Clinton would not agree with the DNC because she thinks she is above the party.  Because the FL vote wasn't going to count, only Clinton campaigned there.  So if those states are to be counted, they need a FAIR primary -- one with ALL names on the ballot and one where the candidates abided by the DNC mandates and where the candidates have campaigned.

And Hillary needs to release her tax returns.  

The Republicans WANT her on the ballot because they feel they can beat her.  What does that tell you?  If she is the candidate the Dems will lose the White House in November and then we will have more of the same old regime, with an old geezer for a prez, who is about an inspiring as a piece of lettuce and who thinks the war could go on for 100 years.  Is that what we really want for this country?  

Additionally, an MSNBC analysis shows that Clinton will need to win at least 56% of the vote in ALL of the remaining contests to win the nomination, even counting the superdelegates.  Superdelegates are also backing away from their initial support of her because of Obama's crushing wins.  There is no way that she is going to win 56% of the vote in all of the remaining contests, no way.  And NM is still up in the air.

If this were a horse race and I was at the track, I certainly wouldn't go to the betting window and put any money on Clinton.  Why back a losing horse?
Hillary originally "forgot" to file the paperwork to take her name off of the Michigan ballot. Now she says she choose to stay on the ballot. Hillary served for 6 years on the anti-union board of Walmart. She now says it was a mistake and refuses to talk about her complacency while working there. Everything Hillary says is a lie and everything she stands for is a lie.
Democrats better think what to do with Fl & Michigan, b/c they may loose their vote in general election. If you don't us now , don't count us in general election.
It is a sad commentary when the very folk who appeared to fight for the civil rights of black people will try and stomp out the light of a strong black candidate such as Senator Obama all for pushing their own agenda.  Your time is over.  You ran your race.  Please stop trying to be a road block for not only history, but more importantly someone who can help to turn this country back right side up.  I wonder what Martin Luther King would think about all of those who marched with him who jumped on the Clinton bandwagon.  Hmm.
The Clinton's are low rent scum bags! The country doesn't need another scandalous Clinton administration.
I'm a 64 year old white woman, and I'm voting for Obama.  An editorial comment in the paper this morning summed it up for me:  "Obama is able to disagree with someone without demonizing them."  That's the mark of a leader that I want in the White House.  
I am African American and proud of Baracks accomplishments, but he is full of hot air and promises. He talks about change and dreams not being deferred, but he is very unspecific. At least Hillary gives details about what she wants to accomplish.  Whether you support Barack or Hillary you have to ask yourself why Barack continually refuses to debate Hillary in states like Wisconsin? Why are the only debates on cable sponsored programs like CNN?  I live in an African American community and most people who will go out and vote for Barack, do not have access to CNN or the internet, so maybe we need to start asking why there have been no debates on public television for the average citizen??
How does being First Lady qualify you to be president? She only knows what big money special interest groups to squeeze. I don't want the surgeons spouse to have a scalpel. We don't need a Clinton monarchy.
Interesting. What all of you Clintonites seem to miss is: Even with the delegates from Michagan counted, Obama is still winning the Delegate count, still winning the Pop Vote count, and that does include superdelegates.

For those of you who question the validity of Clinton's su[perdelegates jumping ship... two already have, and more ARE expected.
I can't believe 1/2 of the Democrats in this country are being sucked in by this, nothing more than, inspirational message Obama is running on.  It's unbelievable that people can be so naieve.  But, when I think .. this is the same country that voted in GWB for a second term, nothing should really surprise me.  Hillar Clinton is clearly the most qualified candidate on either side to get us out of this mess we're in.  It'll take a lot more than "talk".


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