So much for Obama supporters wanting to be postive. First Read is full of pages of insults for Clinton. Its ok for them to bash Clinton but when somebody says something about Obama they get called racist.I just hope people realize that as democrats we need each other to beat the Republicans. The republicans are just sitting back laughing and watch us self distruct.

Stop the insults because we need all democrats to stick together

And her victory in CA is shrinking every day.  It is now down to 9.3% (400,000) votes with 879,000 still to be counted.

These are mostly absentee ballots that were dropped-off at polling places on election day.

[ ...saying it was what she "always thought would happen."] from Day 1.
--Good thing people who disagreed with her
Day 1 overall plan of losing, like Mike Henry, are resigning from her campaign.  That's the kind of Day 1 judgement we need.  I'm mean, she's known this since 2006!
**I only pick on her, because I often get in trouble with the superlative.

What is this about freezing interest rates.  Is that somehow a power granted to the President that I am unaware of?  Not to mention what a ridiculous idea it is...

Senator Clinton:  All crass and no class.

Obama for President.

You Go Girl!!! Beat him up - the country can't take another dumb President like Bush.....MY GOD have we learned nothing in 8 years???

Uniter = Divider.  Change Washington? With Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Patrick Leahy? Please - we're not that stupid.

Hope?  How about HELP!!!

I want a fighter for democratic values and that IS HILLARY CLINTON.....

Clinton suggested his margins had been expected, saying it was what she "always thought would happen."
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She expected to lose 10 states in a row by very large margins, so she just gave them up?!

Someone who supports Hillary, could you explain to me, for once, HOW she's going to "fight the tough battles" to get things done?

If I were Senator Obama I wouldn't want to debate either.  He might be asked (though unlikely since the moderators all throw him slow pitches) why a major facet of his plan for combatting climate change is to build nuclear power plants.  It seems an odd choice considering that there is still no viable way to dispose of the waste.  He must know this since he got on the Richardson and Clinton bandwagon (reluctantly) to come out against Yucca Mountain (at least when he got to Nevada).  So why would someone like Barack Obama advocate nuclear energy?

Let me answer that one for you Barack:  because, according to the LA Times, in 2007 (after you declared you wouldn't take lobbyist and PAC money) you took $160,000 from the Excelon Corp., which just so happens to be the nation's largest operator of nuclear power plants.  You also took $1000 checks from John P. Novack (a representative of Excelon), and James Monk, the president of the Illinois Energy Association; a trade group that represents Commonwealth Edison, an Illinois based utility company which happens to be a wholly owned subsidiary of Excelon Corp.

Or maybe he doesn't want to talk about the California lobbyists for AT&T and United Airlines gave him $2300.  Or maybe he doesn't want to talk about how he took a combined $170,000 from Goldman Sachs and Citigroup who, at the time of their contribution, had numerous issues pending in Washington.  They also happened to spend $4.6 million on lobbying in 2006.

Or maybe he doesn't want to talk about the fact that at an Obama fundraiser in Tallahassee he took money from Florida statehouse lobbyists representing trial attorneys, the insurance industry, fast-food chains, and sugar cane growers.  Now you Obamaphiles will no doubt say that Obama only said he wouldn't take money from FEDERAL lobbyists.  Well, that only goes so far, as noted by the law firm Akerman Senterfitt.  Members of that firm gave Obama $7000.  On its website Akerman notes, as reported in the LA Times, that, "Akerman combines Tallahassee connections with, 'an involved federal political action committee' to provide its clients 'with an enviable level of access.'"

Obama is a liar and a fraud.  His new motto is, "Change you CAN believe in."  But it's obvious that Obama is really change you SHOULDN'T believe in.  

Once again the American electorate is proving that it will believe whatever anyone says as long as they say it enough, and the media tells them it's okay to believe it.  I would think that Americans would be outraged at a candidate who makes promises, but doesn't keep them; who says he's bringing hope and change, but is really just telling new lies and playing the same old games.

Thank you Obamaphiles for proving Ken Kesey's adage true:  "In any given situation there are always going to be more dumb people than smart people."

GO HILLARY!!!

No Seriously Hillary... go... get out of here and make way for someone who will right the American ship that you and your generation have sent into a serious spin.  You're old school tactics and empty promises are not welcome here.  

Barack Obama is the right person for the job.  Can't you see that the very thing you've been touting is the thing working hardest against you.  You've been in "Washington" long enough to be one of them even thought the better part of that experience was not your doing but rather on the coat tails of your husband.

Don't drag this out any longer than it needs to be.  Think about your party and think about the American people who want change.

Like President George Bush, Hillary Clinton will continue to make excuses in order to maintain her defiance of unfavorable circumstances and of the will of majority voters. A leader who remains so defiant and overly arrogant is one who is skilled in being a 'misleader' if elected.
Ms. Clinton's campaign tactics are very divisive at best. Her opponents may be able to paint her as a polarizing person who craves to fulfill her personal ambitions rather than offer herself as a good and frank stewardess of our nation.
Many foreigner continue to see America in negative terms because they see our leader (George Bush) as too arrogant to be dealt with diplomatically. The main reason that foreigners tend to dislike us Americans is because of the policies and tactics of our inefficient president. It is difficult to secure the trust of foreign leaders so thatwe can maintain a peaceful community of nations if our leader is perceived as arrogant and a 'misleader'.
We need a leader who freely admits mistakes and openly and frankly confronts reality, not someone who is deaf and blind to the realities of our 21st nation, as both Ms. Clinton and Bush are.

Hillary is desperate, and trying to grasp at straws. She needs to drop out to unite the party, not drag it down with her. Even if she did steal the nomination by getting more superdelegates she will lose the general election. Obama can win Independents and Republicans, Hillary can't. End of story.

#####URGENT####### WHY IS THE COMMERCIAL BELOW ABOUT CLINTON ASKING FOR THE DEBATE IN WISCONSIN NOT APPEARING ? IT WAS THERE EARLIER TODAY. 02/13/2008 5:38P.M. E.S.T.

omg...she sounds soooooo desperate.  maybe, once she loses the rest of the states, she'll just show up in Denver expecting the nomination anyway.  and then she'll be the ultimate example of what her main constituency is - a manhating wallflower

Hillary who?

I was just wondering if anything that Clinton said in that was true. Clinton never thought that she would have to fight for this but now she finds out she has to and she realizes this when Obama has all the momentum.

I was just wondering if anything that Clinton said in that was true. Clinton never thought that she would have to fight for this but now she finds out she has to and she realizes this when Obama has all the momentum.

When is anyone going to care about Obama getting his money from the Citicorp, JP Morgan and other huge preditory lenders. Come on America wake and smell the roses he rotten to the core.

Just what we need someone who thought 30% interest on credit cards was good.

Check the last debate with John Edwards, since he pointed out how Obama is in bed with them.

I find it interesting that Hillary supporters are quick to comment how dumb Barack Obama supporters are, when he overwhelmingly attracts voters with higher levels of education.

So since she thought it would be tough to win some states in February, she just didn't try? Give me a break?

What does that say for what she is going to do to pass all of her proposals?

"Oh, I knew it would be tough so I'm just not going to do it."

Why does Hillary keep talking about which states Bill loss compared to her loosing them also.  It looks like it is a vote for Bill is a vote for Hillary.  Can't she stand on her own?  Or is it true all her past jobs, boards, commissions, appointments are because of Bill.  Where is her money coming from - those who contributed to Bill or having business deals with Bill?  Where are her super Delegates coming from those who owe Bill from the past?  Where is her experience coming from - Bill?  

Obama says he he is a new politician and then he gets the endorsement from the Old Guard patriach, Ted Kennedy. Obama says he will stand up the special interests and caves in to Exelon who rewrote completely his bill in the Senate. See the NY Times Article. Obama says there is a new day and he talks like the old politicians repeating platitudes and not talking about specific issues. He talks about wanting to lead this country and then 130 times in the Illinois Legislature he votes present to avoid confronting the tough issues. He wants to be open and then refuses to debate Hillary in Wisconsin. He invokes the race card in South Carolina and openly caters to blacks and then blames Bill Clinton for invoking the race card. I am a lifelong Democrat (although I never voted for Bill Clinton) but if Barack Hussein Obama is the nominee, I will vote for a man of integrity although I disagree with him on many issues, John McCain. Idealism is great, but talking specifics on the issues and being hypocrital about being against special interests and playing the race card is not.
We need leadership and integrity, not platitudes and a smile.

The negativity that comes from Senator Barack Hussein Obama's supporters flabbergasts me! That energy needs to be directed towards the republican candidate! Don't forget that all of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's supporters will be needed in order to win the Presidency! This will only cause dysfunction within the democratic party, and McCain will be plucking Obama's feathers like a Christmas goose during the main election should he win. Wise up everyone!

Dave in SD, typical Obama statement. Yes, Hilary's been in Washington but so has Obama. Now somebody will come back and say "but not as long." But when questioning his experience people will say "but he's been a senator just like her." It's similar to Obama saying that MI and FL votes can't count because of "the rules." But, he wants to changes the rules re: super delegates. He pummeled HRC about drivers licenses for illegals but now he's suddenly FOR drivers licenses for illegals.  When will all these starry-eyed people see, he's no different than the rest of them...a politician is a politician is a politician!!

if Hillary does not win big in Texas and Ohio she should realize that its over for her and drop out of the race and let the party unite for Obama. I wonder if she has the class to do this. She strikes me as being vengeful if she cant win.

Hillary needs to wake up to the fact that she can attack Obama's lack of political experience all day long, but it won't overcome the fact that she is viewed as a candidate bought and paid for by the establishment.  Obama's support comes from the fact that Americans know true change won't come from candidates 'owned' by lobbyist's and big business.

Fight hard, Hillary, and win! I've seen the JFK years. All talk! LBJ did the work! I saw the McGovern spin and excitment. He lost. Every time the Democrats vote on charism we do poorly. I don't trust Obama or his team. I want steady careful leadership. Not flash. I want careful withdrawal from Iraq. Not some kneejerk liberal reaction.

people people Demos stop the fighting they both have good ideals and they want to do good for the country I'm just scare the good o boys in the military will they listen to Hillary or our enemies abroad will they take her threats serious plus I'm tired of short men being president that short man complex

I know people are drawn to Obama by his speeches but are people really listen or are they just moved by the movement?  I just don't get it, at least with Hillary there is a plan and not just words.  One more thing have the people read the Left Behind Series they might want to and then think about whats happening.

I think she is by far the best candidate to get work done. Barrack has charm and a big smile, but I don't think he has what it takes to meet the real challenges we face. You can all wish on a star and think politics in Washington are going to change when he gets in, but he has a lot to learn. She has navigated the system for years and has been successful. This is a really close race still and we all need to support who we like and then place nice as one big party at the end and take McCain down.

We are hoping for a Change in  america and OBAMACAN will be everywhere to appose the OLD GENERATION and give way to the new generation. Our Bridges are falling apart, our neighborhoods are going frombad to worse and  we are spending all this money  and our lives in Iraq. Give us a break. REpublicans for OBAMA

We are hoping for a Change in  america and OBAMACAN will be everywhere to appose the OLD GENERATION and give way to the new generation. Our Bridges are falling apart, our neighborhoods are going frombad to worse and  we are spending all this money  and our lives in Iraq. Give us a break. REpublicans for OBAMA

Oh yeah, I'm sure that Hillary "always expected this to happen."  As if.  Just like her husband, she lies without giving it a second thought, even when there's no point to it, and nobody's going to believe her anyhow.  And it just never stops.

Clinton and her followers are all sore losers.  The momentum is shifting and her campaign has no idea what to do.  How many more debates do we need to see between the candidates, enough is enough.  Let's send the HillBillarys back to Arkansas or New York, anywhere but the White House!!

The media luvs obama they hate HILLARY.... so they give him a free pass... in the end when all the dirt comes out on him.... the media will look so stupid.....I STILL LUV HILLARY..... look everyone knows HILLARY. but know one knows THE REAL OBAMA, he knows we are in a bad economy and at war a time win the american people have given up hope..... and he plays on that....... thats all..... but oh well

I am disappointed with Senator Clinton and the way in which she and her husband have conducted themselves during this campaign.
It seems too that Senator Clinton is a bit of a sore loser as she has failed to congradulate her opponent, Senator Obama, for his overwelming successes in the last two sets of wins.
Her flawed campaign and recent loses are indications that she is in trouble.
Perhaps this says something about her character, Perhaps too this is a sample of her inability to lead.

I am a 55 year old female from the state of Iowa.
I have been undecided until today. I will now support
Senator Obama because I believe he is the better candidate.

I'm an undecided voter, but the overly-smart media is pushing me towards voting for Clinton. Either the media thinks Americans are stupid that they will follow their lead, or...anyways, we need to hear specifics from Obama and not just rhetoric.
Clinton on the other hand has to show that she can bring people together.
If I were hiring a person, I would go get the one that can get the job done, and for that, you need experience and bringing people together.

Give it up, Hillary, please.  For the sake of the party, pack it in and go home to New York.

To all Democrats:

Obama has clearly demonstrated that he can pull in core democrats, independents and even some Republicans into his fold.

With John McCain as the presumptive republican nominee, it is very clear that Obama stands a better chance of winning the general elections. He will cut McCain's support by pulling in those independents and Obamicans.

If Hilary becomes a nominee, she will polarize the voters to the point that the independents and the moderate republican will vote for McCain. Also, her nomination will really energize the conservative constituents who hate the Clintons. No wonder the republicans are salivating at the though of Hilary being the Democratic nominee.

BOTTOM LINE: If democrats badly need the white house then they MUST support Obama. Or else get ready for another 4-8 years of Republicans in the white house.

I heard from the other side today about rhetoric and blue skys - if you want platitudes vote for Obama - McCain is gonna eat him up and spit him out--Obama has a lot of issues from his church to his record(or lack of)..McCain should go with Rice - that would make for an interesting race (no pun intended)

Hillary is not losing her votes in California..wishful thinking on your part! The media has done a good job of letting him get a free ride. The man is not telling truth about lobbyists. We are suppose to believe there is a difference between state and federal lobbyist!

California for Hillary!!!

Comparing the quality of the two campaigns so far, I would say Barack Obama will be ready to be President on day one.

He sure has out planned Hillary's 35 years of experience.

Gee,
This woman is sick.
Power hundry.

Aww someone needs a nap. She's cranky when she's losing. So much for grace. She didn't even thank the people that voted for her, just go to the next state. YOU'RE WELCOME HILLARY!!
I made a huge mistake in voting for her. You use us then don't mention us. FORGET YOU TOO. Back to undecided for now. :(

I'm confused.  When was Hillary granted secret powers that allow her to freeze foreclosures prior to being elected?
It amazes me that voters would even listen to that kind of empty promise.
Shtuey, be careful about bringing up lobbyist and special interest money to bring down Obama, your candidate stays away from those issues for a reason.
On a lighter note, if Hillary thinks hanging her hat on the idea that losing 10 states in a row, firing staff, and running out of money have always been the cornerstones of her brilliant strategy, I would like to know what she's smokin' and are you willing to share?

The only thing Hillary ever fought for was her marriage--after Monica.  Everything else was handed to her on a silver platter thanks to Bill(good man.)

However, Obama--the fighter on the mean streets of Chicago--will probably fit into the US political scene better that Billary. What's she going to do when things get tough--cry? Oh she's already done that.  Go Obama--be the legend!

John J. Jackson, Madison,Wi. (Sent Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:41 PM)

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I think that it is important that Democrats remain united and try hard to stay away from personal attacks. Most of the comments on this board are very harsh toward Clinton. Yes, I am a supporter of Obama, but I do not wish to tear down Clinton in order to demonstrate this support. In many ways, I think the Clinton campaign is probably doing a better job at tearing itself down. Obama represents for many people a metaphysical change. I believe that most people who support Obama cannot readily identify a clear position that he holds. Moreover, this relative lack of "substance" may be a problem for Obama in a General Election. But, I am positive that he and his campaign managers are preparing to add more specifics and more aggressiveness to his positions and prospective policies. At any rate, I don't think many (if not most) Americans are really looking for a "specific" presidential candidate. For nearly 8 years we have been sagged with a President who has made this country less safe, less respected internationally, poorer, and riding the back of a proverbial societal downfall. Obama represents a major shift in the normative ideology of Washington, DC and American politics, in general. Both Clinton and McCain are establishment politicians, and even though I actually like both of them, I cannot envision much change coming from either of them due to the entrenched nature of your political backgrounds and related experience. I voted for Bush twice. I am truly sorry for my votes. I regret being seduced by fear. I will not fall victim to fear and despair again! I am not looking for a President with tons of Washington experience. I want someone who is fresh, idealistic, metaphysical, and transformational. This is why I support Obama. I believe that he will be a great President. A President must inspire hope and active participation in one's democracy. When I see young children behind Obama at his rallies, I see the possibility of hope for future generations. I may be wrong, but at this point in my thinking...what is there to lose?

Hillary- Ask Obama how he thinks he can possibly safely lead us out of Iraq-- when he has NEVER been there?!! Also- at the time of the Iraq vote: Intelligence reports told us there were Weapons of Mass Destruction and Obama chose to vote AGAINST protecting America. Hillary- you are better poised to be a better national security leader. McCain, a war hero and veteran will crush Obama.

MSNBC- Ask Obama how he possibly thinks he is able to safely lead us out of Iraq when he has NEVER been there.  

I heard that Hillary is working towards bringing back the monarchy.  She has as much experience as Monica Lewinski.  Monica at least has a degree from Oxford.  Just because you lived in the White House doesn't mean you have what it takes to be President.  It does mean that you have enough money to be a carpet bagger and buy a Senate seat.  I pretty sure that Monica sucked as much knowledge out of Bill as humanly possible.  More then Hillary ever has.  

If we changed to a monarchy I am sure Bill would have died in office and Queen Hil would have taken over.  I hate the arrogance of the Clintons.  I wish they would go away.

As a Republican, I am impressed with Obama.  He has stirred something in me that I haven't ever felt before.  It is Hope.  

I love it.  Go gettem Obama...There are a bunch of us Republicans looking for hope.

Eric

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