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First thoughts: Campaigns vs. presidents

Posted: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:23 AM by Mark Murray
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Judging a president by her campaign: As voters decide whom to support for president, should how the candidates actually ran their campaigns be part of the equation? What can we learn about the type of presidencies each of the three major candidates will have should they win? Clinton had a plan and stuck to it -- invest heavily in Iowa and New Hampshire and try to run up the score on Super Tuesday -- and now is having to come up with a Plan B that could be too little too late. Does this mean she won't have too many Plan Bs as president? If she's ready to be president on Day One, should she have been ready to run a primary campaign on February 6? What about all the money the Clinton campaign blew through, as well as the conflict among staffers? When the tough got going, the campaign didn’t really react that well. Going into this campaign, the narrative on Clinton was that she was organized, prepared, and meticulous -- everything Bill wasn’t. But her campaign right now isn’t reflecting that. 

*** How about Obama and McCain? Sticking with this topic, how is Obama going to handle the first time he gets attacked relentlessly for weeks at a time, which is an inevitable thing for any president? Outside the build-up to South Carolina, he hasn't been tested on this front yet in the campaign. Should this scare voters -- that they don't how Obama will react in a crisis? And then there's McCain. Does the fact that this guy stared political death in the eye mean nothing will faze him as president? That unpopularity (i.e., the war in Iraq) won't bother him to the point that he might not be tuned into the electorate? Of course, as has been asked before, does the best campaigner necessarily make the best president?

*** Are we understanding John Lewis? The New York Times is front-paging that Rep. John Lewis, who has endorsed Clinton, will cast his superdelegate vote for Obama, since his congressional district overwhelmingly voted for the Illinois senator. However, Lewis’ office is adamant that Lewis isn’t endorsing Obama. So is that the distinction? That he isn’t changing his endorsement, but will cast his superdelegate vote for Obama? Pardon us if we’re a bit confused… And Georgia Rep. David Scott -- another Clinton backer -- has apparently endorsed Obama. Not counting Lewis (because the situation is confusing), Obama has gained 12 superdelegates since February 5, while Clinton has lost a net of three. 

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd offers his first read on waivering superdelegates and the latest presidential hopefuls poll.

*** Better late than never, we guess: In one of the most bizarre press conferences we’ve seen in months, the New Mexico Democratic Party finally declared Clinton the winner of that February 5 contest, which will most likely result in Clinton picking up an extra pledged delegate. It’s certainly welcome news for Clinton, but would it have more resonance if the race had been decided before the past eight contests? From our count, Obama has won 22 states (including DC), while Clinton has won 11.

*** Delegate update: The official NBC News hard count of pledged delegates is Obama 1,116 and Clinton 985. Conservatively allocating the outstanding 44 pledged delegates, toss in an additional 24 for Obama and 20 for Clinton. Then adding our superdelegate count (257 for Clinton, 182 for Obama), the GRAND TOTAL is Obama 1322, Clinton 1,262.

*** A missed opportunity? Just asking: as superdelegates are starting to break Obama’s way, is Clinton making a mistake by not campaigning in Wisconsin until Saturday, just three days before the contest there? Obama has been there since Tuesday night, although he took a break from the trail yesterday. Doesn’t Clinton need to start changing the momentum right now -- not on March 4? Wisconsin has a lot of her voters in the state, older Democrats and working class Democrats; there's certainly a latte set of voters in Dane County (Madison), and the state that gives the Senate Russ Feingold and Herb Kohl probably would be comfortable with Obama. Still, this should be a VERY closely fought primary. Yet Clinton does seem to be coming to the party late.

*** The Eyes of Texas are upon you: Looking ahead to March 4… Yesterday, Quinnipiac came out with a poll that gave us a baseline for the upcoming Ohio contest (Clinton 55%, Obama 34%). Now there’s a good Texas poll that shows Clinton up by eight points over Obama (49%-41%) and McCain up by just four points over Huckabee (45%-41%). More evidence that Texas is the better opportunity for Obama?  And if the GOP electorate is as conservative as these pollsters expect it to be, will McCain face a potential embarrassment on March 4?

*** On the trail: Clinton holds a rally in Lyndhurst, OH; Huckabee was in Wisconsin and then heads to Chicago; McCain stumps in Wisconsin, stopping in Oshkosh, La Crosse, and Milwaukee; and Obama, also in Wisconsin, has rallies in Milwaukee, Oshkosh, and Green Bay. Also, Bill Clinton makes five stops in East Texas, while Michelle Obama is in Ohio.

Countdown to Wisconsin and Hawaii: 4 days
Countdown to the MSNBC debate in Ohio: 11
Countdown to Ohio and Texas: 18 days
Countdown to Election Day 2008: 263 days
Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 340 days

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Chaunda Anderson, Indiana

The fact that in the end, becuasue I didnt bother to read your nonsense, shows that you are hte hyprocrit by insulting people without reason. Who is to know you are an african american woman? You could be a paid blogger by HRC campaign.
To: All the Sick and twisted Dem's that are tearing this party apart, Keep up the good work! It's working.  I would never vote for a democrat or watch MSNBS/Obama network again.  Signing off for good.  See you in November!  Go McCain!!!!!!!!

Former Democrat, California
Hillary Clinton:

Ready to fail and ready to lie on day one.

She's taken on the Republicans an repeatedly failed.

Her Iraq vote was that of a coward trying to look tough on terrorism despite the insanity of it. Same as her Iran vote, same as her no vote on warrantless spying.

On Healthcare, she failed miserably in 1993. Not to mention her signing Richard Nixon's HMO plans. She failed so badly, she had to sell out to the Health Insurance agencies. Now she wants to force you to buy their product so they can strengthen their hold on the country.

On NAFTA, the Clinton's failed the country's workers. But it was a very good thing for WalMart, the company she sat on the board for.

On Bankruptcy she failed once again to protect Americans, insteac voting to protect banks and Wall St. She was glad it didn;t pass though, Kind of like her husband smoked pot but didn't inhale.
D Andrews, even if Obama loses in those states, it won't be by large enough margins for Hillary to retake the delegate lead. Don't forget, polls change every day and are usually slower than the hearts and minds of voters. Obama will win in Wisconsin and Hawaii and have a 10-0 streak and plenty of momentum going into TX, OH and PA.

He has significantly more cash than Clinton and actually beat her to establishing a ground game in these major states.

As jaycee pointed out, the fun of having a close Democratic primary race is over. The stakes are much higher going forward because the Democratic party CANNOT afford to be in limbo the entire rest of the spring and summer before the convention.

The Republicans are going to unite behind McCain long before that, and he will long have started swaying hearts and minds by the time the Democratic superdelegates close the deal at the convention.

That's why it's absolutely imperative that the Democratic race winds down, and given how good both candidates are, it should be Obama on top. He has much more cross-over appeal than she does in the general, and she alienates Republicans, with zero-cross-over appeal.

Meanwhile, the veepstakes begin: http://www.nationalscold.com
I don't think you have to worry about how Obama will react if attacked. Nice does not mean stupid. It's true that no one will be able to play the race card on him, with the entire nation watching. But people act as though Barack Obama has been living in a bubble! As though he just popped into existence a year ago! The man has been either working with politicians or in politics most of his adult life. If you think the man has not studied political strategy, both in real life and in books, you must be crazy.

Obama is a younger candidate with a fresh face and a winning smile. All of this is true. But do not underestimate the strength of this man. I think that would be a mistake. His entire life has been a vetting.
Obama has run a brilliant campaign.  He has not faltered in his thoughts, message, ground game, money raising, campaign management,etc.  He has faced formidable challenges and running mates and has not faltered and has handeled it with grace, poise, honesty and maturity.  Never forget he is running against the biggest, most entrenched, nasty, dishonest and meanest political machine in America and he is winning!  Obviously he got it RIGHT ON DAY ONE!  The depth of thought, knowledge and skill level he put together in his campaign theme, strategy, hiring of employees, organization, ground game etc. has all been above board and stellar.  His theme and platform has never faltered so give credit where credit is due.  The Clinton's retheric of BEING READY ON DAY ONE rings hollow and has been proved wrong.
Lynette,

It doesnt matter that a ethnic community backs someone this hugely. There vote still counts because they are Americans. Its not our problem all the other people dont go vote. If they are motivated enough to vote, for any reason, it shouldnt be taken as unfair, because they are Americans, and have any reason to do so!
Chunda, I am so sorry to tell you that you are wrong about Hillary.  She is a lair, takes money from lobbist, she is all for "SELF".  Everyday she manipulates the press and media.  I understand you are not voting for Obama, because he is black, and your are black.  This is a wise decision on your part.  She has so many negatives, and voted for the war in Iraq, and John McCain is going to stop her from becoming the next president.  He can say that the "Surge" is working, but you voted for the war.  I guess you don't know anything about the scandals that went on while Bill was in office.  Obama has never been off key, since he started this campaign.  He is a man of vision, and the only one that can unite the Democratic Party.  Clinton, on the other hand is losing staff, and superdelegates.  There is no way she can catch up to Obama.  Even though, she might win Penn, and Ohio.  I cannot see Obama losing Penn, Ohio, and Texas.  He hasclosed the gap since yesterday.  It shows that Obama and Hillary are neck and neck in Ohio.  So, if you want the democratic party to win, your best choice will be Obama.  He has captured new voters, independent voters, and some republician voters.  Hillary has not done this.  Please think hard, and make the "Right Choice" for this country.  Thanks.

White Supporter for Obama - Sara 35 years old.

It couldn't happen to a more deserving pair
The 'ex-co-Presidents' ?

Jimmy Carter spends his post Presidential days working for human rights and housing

Slick Wille spends his days getting rich via insider deals and romancing celebrities....


From Huff Post:

'...Chickens come home to roost
By RON FOURNIER,
Associated Press Writer
Tue Feb 12, 10:30 PM ET

WASHINGTON - For years, Bill and Hillary Clinton
treated the Democratic National Committee and party
activists as extensions of their White House
ambitions, pawns in a game of success and survival.
She may pay a high price for their selfishness soon.

Top Democrats, including some inside Hillary Clinton's campaign, say many party leaders — the so-called superdelegates — won't hesitate to ditch the former New York senator for Barack Obama if her political problems persist. Their loyalty to the first couple is built on shaky ground.

"If (Barack) Obama continues to win .... the whole
raison d'etre for her campaign falls apart and we'll
see people running from her campaign like rats on a
ship," said Democratic strategist Jim Duffy, who is
not aligned with either campaign.

The rats started looking for clear waters when Obama
won Iowa, narrowly lost New Hampshire and trounced
Clinton in South Carolina before holding his own in
last week's Super Tuesday contests. He won primaries
in Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia on
Tuesday to extend his consecutive win streak to eight.

Obama has won 23 of 35 contests, earning the majority
of delegates awarded on the basis of election results.
The remaining 796 delegates are elected officials and
party leaders whose votes are not tied to state
primaries or caucuses; thus, they are dubbed
"superdelegates."

And they are not all super fans of the Clintons.

Some are labor leaders still angry that Bill Clinton
championed the North American Free Trade Agreement as
part of his centrist agenda.

Some are social activists who lobbied unsuccessfully
to get him to veto welfare reform legislation, a
talking point for his 1996 re-election campaign.

Some served in Congress when the Clintons dismissed
their advice on health care reform in 1993. Some
called her a bully at the time.

Some are DNC members who saw the party committee
weakened under the Clintons and watched President Bush use the White House to build up the Republican
National Committee.

Some are senators who had to defend Clinton for lying
to the country about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Some are allies of former Vice President Al Gore who
still believe the Lewinsky scandal cost him the
presidency in 2000.

Some are House members (or former House members) who
still blame Clinton for Republicans seizing control of the House in 1994.

Some are donors who paid for the Clintons' campaigns
and his presidential library.

Some are folks who owe the Clintons a favor but still
feel betrayed or taken for granted. Could that be why
Bill Richardson, a former U.N. secretary and energy
secretary in the Clinton administration, refused to
endorse her even after an angry call from the former
president? "What," Bill Clinton reportedly asked
Richardson, "isn't two Cabinet posts enough?"

And some just want something new. They appreciate the
fact that Clinton was a successful president and his
wife was an able partner, but they never loved the
couple as much as they feared them.

Never count the Clintons out. They are brilliant
politicians who defied conventional wisdom countless
times in Arkansas and Washington. But time is running
out.

Two senior Clinton advisers, speaking on condition of
anonymity to discuss the race candidly, said the
campaign feels the New York senator needs to quickly
change the dynamic by forcing Obama into a poor debate performance, going negative or encouraging the media to attack Obama. They're grasping at straws, but the advisers said they can't see any other way that her campaign will be sustainable after losing 10 in a row.


Clinton strategists are famous for poor-mouthing their own campaign in order to lower expectations, but these advisers have never played such games. They're legitimate, and legitimately worried.

The fear inside the Clinton camp is that Obama will
win Hawaii and Wisconsin next week and head into the
March 4 contests for Ohio and Texas with a 10-race
winning streak. Her poll numbers will drop in Texas
and Ohio, Clinton aides fear, and party leaders will
start hankering for an end to the fight.

Clinton should find little comfort in the fact that
she has secured 242 superdelegates to Obama's 160.

"I would make the assumption that the ...
superdelegates she has now are the Clintons' loyal
base. A superdelegate who is uncommitted today is
clearly going to wait and see how this plays out.
She's at her zenith now," Duffy said. "Whatever
political capital or IOUs that exist, she's already
collected."

Few Democrats want to cross the Clintons when they're
on top. But how many are willing to stand by them when they're down?...'

"So is that the distinction? That he isn’t changing his endorsement, but will cast his superdelegate vote for Obama? Pardon us if we’re a bit confused"

You are pardoned. It is called representative government. The elected official represents the people who elected him/her rather than their own personal beliefs and will promote their wishes even if it conflicts.

Joe Lieberman for example does not believe in representative government. He has repeatedly said that he votes his conscience and personal beliefs even if it goes against the wishes of his constituents -- he calls that courage. I call it something else.

Therefore I applaud Lewis for his "courage" to respect our form of government.
I think all the claims Hillary make regarding her experience being better than Obama's needs more proof.  All I see is lemmings believing her without any real proof.  As noted by Danta above, Obama has actually done a great deal more than Hillary in public office.  As for him being able to withstand the Republican attack machine, I don't think he will have problems with that after surviving the Clinton attack machine.  He does not take this stuff laying down and answers attack ads quickly as he did yesterday.
Ray-

I agree that Obama is getting a free ride because he is new and black. First Read and Chuck Todd and Chris Matthews all slant their analysis in favor of Obama.

Fact is, Obama is untested and inexperienced, especially on national security. Can you imagine what Obama would do as Pres. if Iranian gunboats started firing on U.S. frigates? Obama would have to draw on his experiences as a community organizer in south Chicago....how relevant. The man is a freshman, media-created windbag getting a free pass to the nomination.
I watched the Doyle interview last night and it was very uncomfortable when Mathews asked the governor to name ONE 9only one) Obama achievement that is relevant.  All he could come up with is that he's run a great campaign.  
Sierra,
Your post is a ridiculous rambling. who cares?  
Oh yeah for those people who talk about Hillary's healthcare mandating coverage so does Obamas on children and yes he will garnish your wages just like Hillary if you do not pay. Also he says he eventually wants universal healthcare. Had a nice older lady who told me she would want Hillary because this lay's son just graduated from medical school and she was told Hillary would ruin doctors finiancially woth her plan so she was going to vote Obama. When I pointed out Obama eventual stated goal was the same SHE DID NOT EVEN KNOW. This college educated upper middle class woman was basing her vote on misinformation. There is your Obama support over educated and underinformed.


Also seriously and I mean this with no disrespect or rancor, please quit eqating Obama's time as a parttime state senator with ANYTHING Hillary was doing nationally. That's like comparing running a Dollar Tree with running a Walmart, two different worlds.

 And another thing (since I am off and have nothing else to do but rant) white people quit feeling guilty about pointing out the racist voting tactics of the majority of black people who so not know any issue but are voting based solely on race. I am black and I find it abhorrent. Folks like Wilder who tried to bury Bill Clinton to get the anger vote bring same to our community. It is so easy to get ignorant and undereducated people riled up over nonsense. Just remember you are now part ofnt eh problem not the solution.
Why is it that all of the Obama bloggers are whining about Hillary getting out of the race? If you can't put her away given all of the positive press coverage you've gotten what makes you think you can beat McCain? And about the issue of judging someone's presidency by his or her campaign. Unless Obama can count on 80% positive press coverage throughout his presidency I seriously doubt that he could be effective. His campaign is nothing more than a media creation that has been hyped by a news/entertainment industry that is desperate for a good story while the Hollywood writers have been on strike. No one has any idea what Obama would actually do as president. He talks about his skill at bringing people together. But what do you do when people don't want to come together? Does he seriously think he can use his rhetoric and charisma to bring all of the rabid Republicans over to his way of thinking? Likely as not an Obama presidency would face (at best) a 51% working majority in this country. And he would face an onslaught of criticism and recriminations from both the media and the Republicans and, at his first failure, would begin to whine just as his campaign is doing now. Right here in Massachusetts we have a governor whose campaign reminds me very much of Obama's.....same slogan ("yes we can") and everything. He promised transformation and all he's done so far is make a series of rookie missteps and now has staked his governorship on getting three casinos built, which is being fought tooth and nail by the legislature. Face it, if we're lucky enough to have a democrat in the White House next year it had better be someone who knows how to fight for every inch and knows who the enemies are. Obama seems to think that everyone will just lay down and let him have his way, just as his supporters are expecting Hillary to do in this race. But that won't happen. He'll be fought at every turn, just like Bill Clinton was, and that's a bitter pill for anyone to swallow no matter how much kool aid they drink.
Why is it that all of the Obama bloggers are whining about Hillary getting out of the race? If you can't put her away given all of the positive press coverage you've gotten what makes you think you can beat McCain? And about the issue of judging someone's presidency by his or her campaign. Unless Obama can count on 80% positive press coverage throughout his presidency I seriously doubt that he could be effective. His campaign is nothing more than a media creation that has been hyped by a news/entertainment industry that is desperate for a good story while the Hollywood writers have been on strike. No one has any idea what Obama would actually do as president. He talks about his skill at bringing people together. But what do you do when people don't want to come together? Does he seriously think he can use his rhetoric and charisma to bring all of the rabid Republicans over to his way of thinking? Likely as not an Obama presidency would face (at best) a 51% working majority in this country. And he would face an onslaught of criticism and recriminations from both the media and the Republicans and, at his first failure, would begin to whine just as his campaign is doing now. Right here in Massachusetts we have a governor whose campaign reminds me very much of Obama's.....same slogan ("yes we can") and everything. He promised transformation and all he's done so far is make a series of rookie missteps and now has staked his governorship on getting three casinos built, which is being fought tooth and nail by the legislature. Face it, if we're lucky enough to have a democrat in the White House next year it had better be someone who knows how to fight for every inch and knows who the enemies are. Obama seems to think that everyone will just lay down and let him have his way, just as his supporters are expecting Hillary to do in this race. But that won't happen. He'll be fought at every turn, just like Bill Clinton was, and that's a bitter pill for anyone to swallow no matter how much kool aid they drink.
Lynette, NYC:

Can you tell me what Senator Clinton stands for? What will she do as President? Will she be the President or co-President? If she is elected, will all the people who have supported Senator Obama be targeted for revenge?

P.S. I don't think you are a racist, and even if you were, you have every right to your own opinion.
Wow, next time the Clinton's hire people to troll blogs, they should really give them a spelling and grammer test or something, no one is going to convince anyone when they are ranting in improper English.
I said what i said because if you look at states with large african american populations, district by district, he has gotten sometimes as much as 90% of the black vote. Give me a break, when does that happen for any candidate. i stand by what i said, and I know many people believe this to be true as well they dont have the guts to say it publicly. I knew i would get criticized heartily, but the facts are the facts.Less than half of the population actually votes, but when you have almost an entire ethnic group pulling in one direction, the scales get tipped.

By the way, Im a college graduate.
Lynette, NYC (Sent Friday, February 15, 2008 10:24 AM)

Could have fooled me
jaycee, your comments deserve to be in the white part of the column above the comments section.
Yaahh Sierra is here with her cut and paste campaign. Go mindlessness yes you can!!!
Lynette...you're right, that was racist. Everyone has the right to vote, regardless of race and their previous voting record. I am a white male, but voted for the first time in a Democratic caucus. Does my vote count. Oh that's right, I live in a caucus state and they don't count. Or is it because I live in a small state...they don't count either, right? Or is it because it is a red state. Or maybe because I prefer a latte over regular coffee. I'm so confused over who's vote should count...enlighten me.
Why I hate Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama:
Actually, I hate neither Clinton nor Obama. After all, they are fellow Americans and both have contributed greatly to this country.
But why would I want Obama to be the next leader of our beloved country and the free world? Lets not demean any candidate and be fair to all candidates.
1. Hillary Clinton's trademark campaign theme is "35 years of experience". Barack Obama's themes revolve around hope, change, and unity.
2. Hillary has 7 years of legislative experiences as a U.S. Senator, while Obama has 12 years of lawmaking experiences as an Illinios legislator and a U.S. Senator.
3. Both senators hold law degrees, Obama from Harvard and Clinton from Yale.
4. Clinton has worked full time for over 15 years (1977 - 1993) as a corporate lawyer at Rose Law Firm. The only real legislative experience she has accumulated over the years is her seven years in Congress as a U.S. Senator from New York. She may be referring the rest of her 15 years of experience to her status as First Lady of Arkansas during Bill's governorship as well as First Lady of the U.S. during his presidency (if you think the years she was crowned the First Lady title should count as political experience, then you may also argue that Laura Bush (whose husband was also a governor of Texas) has the same experience as Hillary Clinton as First Lady).
5. Obama was doing community organizing work in Chicago during the years Hillary Clinton was working as a corporate lawyer/corporate board member (the notion that he was representing what Clinton termed a "slum lord" is inaccurate, for Obama only did legal paper work for a nonprofit organization working with Tony Rekzo).
6. Many of you argued that Clinton does not currently have the credentials to lead the nation (her campaign has repeatedly undergone shake-ups and she has fired 2 of her campaign managers following the February 5 nominating contests and her campaign money woes, as evidenced by the $5 million personal loan she transferred from her own pocket and Obama's 32% million fundraising for the month of January alone). This may tell voters something about our future president's management ability (some will blame the media for bringing this issue up, but you have to remember that Obama's own campaign has been far more better managed).
7. There is a lot voters need to know about the two remarkable candidates, so I'll list a few links I have carefully verified to contain factual information. Educated minds make wise choices, so it is important to stop attacking each candidate with no facts to back up most of the posts. As voters, it is our responsibility to educate ourselves and not be influenced by the media and the candidates themselves unless what they say is factually accurate (Obama has made a couple of inaccurate statements, but most of the inaccurate statements are coming from the Clinton campaign). I urge voters to do some fact-checking before attacking any of the candidates or their supporters.
To learn about your candidate's voting record in Congress, please do a little research or visit www.votesmart.org
To do political fact checking, you can go to one of the following sites (there are many others out there):
www.factcheck.org
www.mediamatters.org
www.politifact.com
www.washingtonpost.com/factchecker
Don't let yourself be deceived! You have got to be the judge by voting for the candidate with the qualities you feel best suits the presidency.
Please also take the time to do a little more research by going to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama. Don't look up to the Clinton Chronices in making your judgment about America's next president!
One last thing... You can track Hillary's "35 years of experience" at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18391632 to give you a sense of why Hillary Clinton continues to stick to her campaign theme of "experience".
I hope voters will now wise up and stop acting like children. In a civil society, we are supposed to engage in lively and frank discussions, not vicious attacks as if our candidates were engaged in warfare. Some of the posts seem to be filled with hateful remarks, better suited for bigots and those who prefer to live a life of ignorance than educated and compassionate citizens.
kevin

That is why I put my whole name up. It is easy to find and remember. I do not have to hide behind the anonymity of a one name no state blog to express my belief
You Obama supporters really think you are great, How ARROGANT are you.

You all just spout the same BS Obama does. Its funny how The Black Agenda Report doesn't think the same
way you do. Should read it (OR ARE YOU AFRAID TO KNOW THE TRUTH)

Ambassador Joe Wilson has some interesting comments on him.

And How about the fact that he is buying superdelegates votes.

Or how about whos funding him?

Maybe you should pull your heads out and do some true research on him.

And aleast with the Clinton's you know what you get,with him who does know?
I really think change has a face in this election.  Something besides just something to say.  And I think, while it is terribly difficult to make change tangible, Obama has been adding substance.  Our neighbors deeply want real change.  If Obama can continue to convince people that he is for real, Hillary's "just talk - no action" cynicism will might not be enough to turn the tide.
Sorry I do not type very well but I did not think that was the issue of these postings
jaycee, Ventura, California - What you write about the Democrats this year is so true. What is happening now with the Democrats is their worst nightmare. Clinton could not issue the knock-out blow on Super Tuesday, and now is in this endless battle with the "new guy". The Clinton's only being slightly behind means they will fight to the finish for the nomination. They are so self centered, that will stop at nothing to get that nomination, and that includes destroying the Democratic party for years to come. Obama certainly will not quit either. Standing in front of huge cheering crowds has got to be pumping him up. For him to ever quit the race, he'll have to give up that spotlight, and his supporters will be very bitter towards the Clinton's if they ever forced him to make that decision.

McCain on the other hand, while not the best choice for the right, will be an adequate choice. He'll be a fine President that both parties will get along with
All you women following the "Obama train",What is his stance on Women's Rights?
His days of"present"are over........
No one cares?I do!!!!!!
Lynette,
I'll let your comments stand on their own but will ask you one simple question:
Even if what you claim is true, how then do you apologize for the millions of women who have been brow-beaten by NOW into voting for HIlllary "because she's a woman."  That's ok, right?

And please don't say she's more qualified.   It doesn't hold up to the facts.  It holds up to her rhetoric, but not the facts.  The latest today is that she gets "results" whereas her opponent just makes "promises."  Really?  Really?  REALLY?  What are the results?  Other than a few minor items (childhood vaccines, a small hcare bill for NY), which are admirable, but still  minor, THERE'S no THERE THERE.  Sorry, just because you say something enough doesn't mean it's true.  That's Karl Rove politics; we're done with that.
Dirk, in Brunswick: Please explain to me in detail how Hillary Clinton is more experienced on national security than Barack Obama. And don't just give me the Clinton side. I want to see an accurate copy of Obama's record, too. Side by side.

The experience issue is getting tired. For anyone who remembers Bill Clinton's campaign, the experience issue is a non-issue. Bill had less experience than either of these two.
'j fl' said: "Obama is a Muslim.....blah blah blah..." lies, fear mongering, the dirty politics of the past....guess what, people are not that stupid, its NOT working anymore, BYE.
To Chaunda from Indianapolis:

Why do you keep reminding us in every post that you are black? lol

Since I am black too, (and I am off today as well), let's talk "sister" to "sister" shall we?

Instead of you ranting and railing about all that Senator Obama is not gonna do, why don't you tell me what Senator Clinton is gonna do?

Is she gonna release her tax returns, explain her "universal" mandate penalty, tell us how she is going to fix Social Security, release her White House papers? Is she gonna stop telling us all the things we CAN'T do because she says so?

Is she going to articulate HER vision for America and stop reminding us of Bill's? Is she going to admit her war vote was a mistake? Is she going to admit EVER making ANY mistake? Is she going to keep playing the victim everytime things don't go her way?

This campaign is about the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not about Hillary Clinton. Until she realizes that and starts presenting a vision of what she can do instead of what Obama can't, she doesn't stand a chance.

P.S. GO TITANS!
I'm not confused about John Lewis in the slightest. Its all well and good if you personally endorse one candidate, but if your constituents vote for the other one, if I were in his position, I would give my superdelegate vote to the person the people voted for. That's democracy. Voting for the candidate his district didnt vote for; that's what doesn't make sense.
In politics, people go back on their word almost as often as they exhale. At least in this case, it's for a good cause.
NO OBAMA, can you back your statements up with sources? Credible sources, not blogs?
I have been blogging here for quite a while and no one is paying me.

Again I stand by what i said and no where did i say that anyone votes should not matter, It is my opinion that EVERYONE should vote. The media spin on Obama is incredulous, the african americans and the college kids started a pep rally, and people have jumped on it.
I see Senator Clinton as a very strong person who will be tough on foreign policy and with the economy. Obama is weak in my eyes. A wuss really. But he has a great way with the words, I will give him that.

THE "COMEBACK" CANDIDATE...hillaryclinton.com . come see how it will be done.
Another anti Hillary , Obama puff piece. It isn't just Chris Matthews folks it is the entire MSNBC organization. This will be my last post on this blog I like Huffington Post better the writers are more varied and have less gender bias. Go Hill you will take Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania in spite of a biased media.  
LIKE PROMISE HERES BORACK OBAMA EXPERINCE:

Now, I would post those of Obama’s, but the list is too substantive, so I’ll mainly categorize.

During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

233 regarding healthcare reform,

125 on poverty and public assistance,

112 crime fighting bills,

97 economic bills,

60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,

21 ethics reform bills,

15 gun control,

6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law, **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law, **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law, **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.

In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.

An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record according to some who would prefer that this comparison not be made public.

He’s not just a talker.

He’s a doer.

Pass it on….It’s impressive
The GOP should just foreit this race.  By all accounts, the Obama supporters are very dedicated, unlike the Hillary supporters, who may waiver.  I'm still voting for Ron Paul in spite of the mess America is ordering up for herself.
I guess i couldnt possibly be an educated, college grad because I do not agree with you, WOW. There is a underlying current of these things that are not politically correct to talk about at cocktail parties or on blogs or anywhere. I say what i feel, and then I take the critique. Not everyone has to agree with everyone else and everyone is entitled to share opinions.  
I dont know how a Clinton who goes to battle and makes the failures of her opponents tactics being the basis of her victory could lay claim to being a better fighter than an Obama who expects that the opponent will be tough and conjurs a better arsenal to overpower the opponent.
<< Mike , West Texas - Obama has been adding substance.>>

Obama has as much substance as cotton-candy. He's sweet and airy, and there is not much else. The rubes love it. Hillary on the other hand just lies.
Whither John Lewis?  Billary wants what Billary wants. Yes, those were the heady times. Your stars aligned with those of Billary. That was LONG, LONG ago.  Your beloved community can, no,no, MUST now wait, or better, get out of the way. The first black president? The stars just don't align anymore. Thus, the southern strategy and other despicable behaviour of the Billary machine.
'...And Georgia Rep. David Scott -- another Clinton backer -- has apparently endorsed Obama. Not counting Lewis (because the situation is confusing), Obama has gained 12 superdelegates since February 5, while Clinton has lost a net of three...'

Those Super Delegate totals may NOT BE STATIC
Everybody's for you when you're 'inevitable'

Nobody loves you when you're down and out.... ;-D

Super Delegates  are there to RATIFY the decision of the VOTERS... not to OVERTUNR the VOTER'S WILL
excuse me,but am I the only one who reads these e-mails but am eager to get on to the next one for opinions?Please to sierra,etc who are writing manuscripts---I skip them---who has the time to read on and on.I was on this site agood year ago and learned who the republicans were---the same ones that hate clinton and cheer on obama.Bet they will not vote for him tho.Why do you never discuss your very own republican cantidate?Cmon jerry and anders who is your choice?
I think John Lewis and Pelosi letting it slip she's leaning Obama are meant as signals to the Clintons, and probably being done in concert with some private meetings between Democratic leaders and the campaign, letting her know their preference the party now rally behind Obama.

Just my guess, but I think this is the drama being played out. People telling her its over; she countering that she wants to at least take a shot at reversing the situation on March 4. If I'm right, it will be interesting to see if the signals start becoming more overt, should Clinton continue to resist.
Jaycee, excellent remarks. I think the Clinton Machine is willing to destroy the Democratic Party to insure Hillary's ascendancy and general election loss.
Jaycee, excellent remarks. I think the Clinton Machine is willing to destroy the Democratic Party to insure Hillary's ascendancy and general election loss.


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