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And Bill spars with another?

Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:32 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Carrie Dann
At a later event today in Steubenville, OH, Bill Clinton snapped hard at an anti-abortion protestor who had interrupted him.

“I gave you the answer. We disagree with you," Clinton said. "You wanna criminalize women and their doctors and we disagree... I reduced abortion… Tell the truth, tell the truth… If you were really pro-life, if you were really pro-life, you would want to put every doctor and every mother as an accessory to murder in prison. And you won’t say you wanna do that because you know that because you know that you wouldn't have a lick of political support. Now, the issue is who … the issue is, you can't name me anybody presently in politics that did more to introduce policies that reduce the number of real abortions instead of the hot air putting out to tear people up and make votes by dividing America."
 
“This is not your rally. I heard you. That's another thing you need is a president, somebody who will stick up for individual rights and not be pushed around, and she won't."

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Imagine MSNBC if…

It was Hillary Clinton (not Barack Obama) who purchased her house for $300,000 under its market value thanks to her political relationship with a man who was known to be the target of an FBI investigation when the sale took place?

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Imagine if someone investigated how Bill is making 10s of millions of dollars for essentially doing no work?

Imagine if Hillary provided her tax returns that would tell us how she can 'loan' 5 million dollars to her campaign on a moments notice.

Talk about phoney. Compare these posted responses, one from here, and one in another First Read section:

“I recently changed my support from Hillary to Obama; even though, I had been blogging for her for several months.

Me and my family used to be the biggest fans of Bill Clinton. Everyone in my community can't stand to see Bill on TV anymore.  I’m not sure if its his older age or maybe the lack of sleep lately, but I truly believe his lost his mind.  He makes no sense anymore, cares about nothing other than attempting to get his wife elected, plucks words right out of the air while stating nothing, and now even goes against the voices of mass voters...

Bill Clinton is really not he same person I USED to respect and admire!

This country needs straight shooters.  Vote for anybody but the Clinton Fabricators....Obama first, if not, then McCain!

Juan”

And-

“I recently changed my support from Hillary to Obama; even though, I had been blogging for her for several months.

Me and my family used to be the biggest fans of Bill Clinton. Everyone in my community can't stand to see Bill on TV anymore.  I’m not sure if its his older age or maybe the lack of sleep lately, but I truly believe his lost his mind.  He makes no sense anymore, cares about nothing other than attempting to get his wife elected, plucks words right out of the air while stating nothing, and now even goes against the voices of mass voters...

Bill Clinton is really not he same person I USED to respect and admire!

This country needs straight shooters.  Vote for anybody but the Clinton Fabricators....Obama first, if not, then McCain!

Fernando Garza, Loredo TX”

Obviously from this same agent of disinformation. Note the cynical use of a Hispanic name in each. Come on people, lets leave the Karl Rove type of phoniness to the Republicans!
Chuck, Mika, Joe, Chris and others @ MSNBC are hypocrits to the highest. Chuck's family or inlaws - REPUBLICANS - Mika's Dad & Brother - REPUBLICANS and then Joe & Chris - I wonder if their past life could withstand the pressures of the not so biased PRESS. What would come up - an ex secretary or past drunken rages - what? Maybe we should talk about that. MSNBC is worst thank FOX. Imus is a sure bet and he needs to be brought back. There isn't a difference. A bunch of REPUBLICANS hating women and strong men. They are a joke - I wonder how much they are being paid to elect another pResident - Chris did this during the 2000 election and was allowed to continue. During that time, he called minorities and seniors 'ignorant' and seven years later - HE continues. Joe Scarborough left the house of representatives to 'spend more time with his family' and you gave him a tv show. MSNBC - continues - god help us all.
maybe this is a clinton supporter giving bill more exposure and free media, that the clintons dont want to pay for......
What's your problem Bill?  Your losin it.
What has happened to Bill? He is just Mad! He needs to control himself and show some restraint. The bad part is I used to like him, now I am not sure I trust a word he says. I cannot vote for Hillary because a vote for her is a vote for him.

Obama 08'
I will NEVER vote for the CLINTON'S!!! In fact, I dislike their brand of politics so much that I will do everything I can to get McCain elected if Hillary is our nominee. My feelings about this are very strong. You can agree or disagree but my mind will not change.

OBAMA 08'
Go get-em Bill!!!!
In Europe they remember that it was a time of American prosperity under Bill Clinton. Are people to young to remember that he was the most effective President in recent history? He worked like an animal, his intellect formidable, and yes-he could fight like a tiger for your rights.  
Thank god for men like Bill Clinton.Without men like this your mothers,wives,sisters,neices and their doctors would be sitting in prison for even thinking about their own rights.George Bush is disliked because he promised the religous right he would change the laws roevwade and outlaw gay rights.If that the hecklers had sceamed at Obama the msnbc would have called them clinton plants and said they should have been tasered and dragged out.Obama is so lucky to have msnbc as his lackeys.
The issue is not necessarily that Obama is plagiarizing Governor Patrick, it's the fact that he's mostly touted for his speeches--which now seem to be thanks to his speech writers and their own resourcefulness.  Maybe we should be nominating one of them for president.
I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH SO MANY OF THE BLOGGERS TODAY.  ARE SOME OF THE OBAMA-RAMA DING-DONGS (I LIKE THAT ONE) FINALLY GETTING SMARTER AND TURNING FROM THE FANTASY WORLD, OR HAS FOX, OH! I MEAN MSNBC, FINALLY STARTED TO PRINT SOMETHING POSITIVE ABOUT THE CLINTON'S.  THERE IS SOME GOOD STUFF ON HERE THIS TIME.  SURPRISE, SURPEISE!!!!
WAY TO GO BILL!!!! GIVE EM' HELL!!!!
OBAMA'S CAMP SAY'S THE HECKLER WASN'T ONE OF THEM.  MAY I SELL YOU MY SHARE OF THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE IF YOU BUY INTO THAT?
SOME ONE SAID THAT BILL CLINTON WAS THE MOST ARROGANT JERK ON T.V. NOW,  EXCUSE ME, HAS THAT GUY SEEN OBAMA LATELY?
HE SWAGGERS ASROSS THE STAGE THROWING HIS NASTY LITTLE REMARKS ABOUT HILLARY, AND THE CROWD GOES WILD.  DOES THIS SHOW HOW EDUCATED OUR YOUNG VOTERS ARE OR ARE WE GOING THROUGH A PHASE WHERE THE SMART ASS SOUND BITE IS THE WAY WE SELECT A CANDIDATE?
OBAMA LOOKS LIKE HE THINKS THAT HE HAS THE REPUBLICAN'S ON HIS SIDE AND THE MEDIA, SO HOW CAN I LOOSE.  UNFORTUNATELY HE MAY BE RIGHT.

HILLARY FOR A SAFER SANER AMERICA!!!
SHE IS THE REAL DEAL.
NATALIE

YOU ARE SO RIGHT.
THEY STRONGLY WANT THE DEATH PENALTY, AND THEY NEVER SAW A WAR THEY DIDN'T LIKE. THEY SAY THAT KILLING CHILDREN IN IRAQ IS JUST COLLATORAL DAMAGE.
ANOTHER THING THAT GET ME FIRED UP IS THAT THEY WANT TO DO AWAY WITH POOR CHILDREN'S HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT, SO LET THEM STARVE AFTER THE FACT RIGHT?
SOME DON'T BELIEVE IN BIRTH CONTROL OF ANY KIND.
SEEM'S LIKE THEIR PRIORITIES ARE A BIT SCREWED UP.
well!!!!!
Everyone is just seeing a preview of what a hillary clinton administration is going to look like behind closed doors...  if you don't agree with me or my wife then we will go after you...  This is nothing but more of the same...... She can't control him and everyone now can see this! Hillary is starting to say anything to get elected. She didn't have any type of plan after Febuary 5th TOOK IT ALL FOR GRANTED that she was going to win, and on the verge of running out of money.. now if you can't financially run a campign then how are you going to run a country???? Also Hillary, and John Mccain the two canidates with all this experience are changing their tone of HOPE, CHANGE, and they are really starting to sound like the new fresh canidate. so if all of these experenced canidates know so much why aren't they continuing to campaign on the ideas that they started in the beginning?? Hillary has changed campaign managers why? YOU SEE WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.. ALSO,, if you have to mandate universal health care, and talk about garnessing wages for folks that don't want to buy into her plan.. doens't that represent big government? and for all you people that are pro choice what do you think about that?? government telling you what to do OR ELSE!!!! this is wrong, and i don;t care what the issue is. If you heard what Bill cliton said about abortion in his finger waggin temper tandrum said that people want to PUNISH WOMEN AND DOCTORS for not agreeing with them. Well don't you folks think that this lines up and condridics what her health plan is all about????
America we don't need this!!! If hillary loaned her campaign 5 million bucks from her HOPE CHEST :) who is going to pay that back????????maybe i should LOAN 5 million dollars to BARRACK folks she was running out of money because she didn't run her campaing properly.. she makes to many mistakes from what i see, and she hasn't admitted to any of them. this is more of the same. Now she wants to have a debate everyday because she don't have anymore money.. this is not what we need again.. The stakes are to high, and we can't afford another 4 years of this type of old Washington. Hillary sign the Bankrupcy bill but then talks about caring for the middle class.. She need to be checked on that in the upcoming debate, and she needs to answer why she slapt middle to lower class Americans like that, and i can go on and on..
Of all the canidates which one of the canidates have a closer relationship with the middle class america John Macain who has been walking the walls of Washington for the past 40 years, Hillary Clinton been living the good life for the past 50 years getting all those lucritive tax breaks that for the last 7 years we know this because Bill always tells us about it, OR BARRACK OBAMA who has in the past few years living like regular AMERICANS!!! Well folks this is an easy answer...


BARRACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!

KENNY,
Most likely an Obama plant. DIRTY POLITICS
King William-The 1st., and Queen Hillary-The 1st.,former Monarchs of the United Kingdom of America, feel they have a Royal Birth Right to replace King George-The 2nd.These Monarchs including King George -The 1st., have been ruling the Kingdom of America for 20 straight years. However due to the misrule of these Monarchs, over the past 20 years, the citizens of the Kingdom have faced failing economic conditions,loss of millions of jobs exported to their low wage foreign subjects in the Far East and South America.The citizens due to misrule have also lost a lot of their homes and cash to mortgage foreclosures and high credit card interests imposed by the cousins of these Royals. The Kingdom's products are no longer the largest selling around the world, as the Royals are sustituting products made in the Kingdom for products made in the lands of their foreign relatives.The current royal ruler King George The 2nd., declared War mistakenly against the Mad King Sadman of Babylon who despite being cruel and evil was not the King who declared war on us.It was Evil King Benlard of Arabia, who was let off by King William- The 1st., during his reign. Evil King Benlard is still running around in Arabia waiting to attack us again.King William -The 1st., and Queen Hillary-The 2nd.,are asking the subjects of the United Kingdom of America to put them back on the Throne and they will undo all the evils of their cousin King George-The 2nd., But it seems that the people are worried that they will abuse their power a second time, after all they spent 8 long years on the throne and failed miserably to address the problems of the people.In fact all they did was to prepare the throne for their cousin King George-The 2nd.,The people are looking to a new person a bright, young Commoner known as Obama who is preaching Change and a return to the period when we the people overtrew the Old Kings.He says  a new politics of the people, by the people and for the people is what is needed.He promises to return the country to a Republic and to FORBID any more Kings and Queens to ever rule the land again. He promises to also bar anyone from being elected as President for more than 8 years.The people are hoping that this Commoner Obama will  be sucessful in this our NEW AMERICAN REVOLUTION FOR CHANGE. YES, WE CAN CHANGE AMERICA.LONG LIVE - OBAMA,LONG LIVE - THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA.
cecil
Scott, you are correct in spotting the phonies.But it is all written by Jerry, Corpus Christi. He has been doing this antiClintons and now pro Obama crap for months. Its the same guy. A right winger. They all want, and been pushing Obama. Hmmmmmmm
"At least FOX is fair in its coverage." - Ben

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Wow, people still believe that.

"By the way, for all you Obama-Rama-Ding-Dongs; "Yes we can" is a copy-cat knock-off of a speech Bill Clinton gave on the campaign trail in 1992.
Just thought you should know. " - J. Merle Stanley

Actually, it's a translation of a powerful UFW chant. But you race-baiting Clintonites wouldn't know that. And thanks to your wench candidate for mutating it to "yes, we will". You can kiss this particular Latino voter goodbye you quasi-racist scumbags. If I wanted to vote for people who would discredit and ignore my culture, I'd vote Republican.
DK, Keith Olbermann, Howard Fineman and David Schuster are all democrats and they joined in on the GANG RAPE of Hillary too. I used to like all of them. Too bad, they couldn't help themselves and had to be part of the republican boys club. Like I said before, the savage attack is over and they are smug and self satisfied......
MK hates woman, always has and always will. He speaks of females using "mommy parts", like that is what all woman are good for. Eh MK?
To Obama Mama

Must have taken awhile to come up with that slick and catchy name. At least someone in the obama camp came up with somthing original.

We know it was not your canidate. He is just an opportunist and a junior want to be. Speeches and fancy names will not correct the republican destruction of the last 8 years on the middle class.

obama has NO IDEAS and only cares about himself.
Someone just sent me a link to this Time Magazine article Barack Obama wrote in 2006: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546579-1,00.html

I had never read it before, but I found Senator Obama's approach a refreshing alternative to this kind of disrespectful behavior.
Bill was right. Stomp on them and stomp on them hard! Those anti-abortion fanatics have poisoned politics for far too long. It's about time someone slapped them down and I hope he, and others, do so again.  
well!!!!!
Everyone is just seeing a preview of what a hillary clinton administration is going to look like behind closed doors...  if you don't agree with me or my wife then we will go after you...  This is nothing but more of the same...... She can't control him and everyone now can see this! Hillary is starting to say anything to get elected. She didn't have any type of plan after Febuary 5th TOOK IT ALL FOR GRANTED that she was going to win, and on the verge of running out of money.. now if you can't financially run a campign then how are you going to run a country???? Also Hillary, and John Mccain the two canidates with all this experience are changing their tone of HOPE, CHANGE, and they are really starting to sound like the new fresh canidate. so if all of these experenced canidates know so much why aren't they continuing to campaign on the ideas that they started in the beginning?? Hillary has changed campaign managers why? YOU SEE WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.. ALSO,, if you have to mandate universal health care, and talk about garnessing wages for folks that don't want to buy into her plan.. doens't that represent big government? and for all you people that are pro choice what do you think about that?? government telling you what to do OR ELSE!!!! this is wrong, and i don;t care what the issue is. If you heard what Bill cliton said about abortion in his finger waggin temper tandrum said that people want to PUNISH WOMEN AND DOCTORS for not agreeing with them. Well don't you folks think that this lines up and condridics what her health plan is all about????
America we don't need this!!! If hillary loaned her campaign 5 million bucks from her HOPE CHEST :) who is going to pay that back????????maybe i should LOAN 5 million dollars to BARRACK folks she was running out of money because she didn't run her campaing properly.. she makes to many mistakes from what i see, and she hasn't admitted to any of them. this is more of the same. Now she wants to have a debate everyday because she don't have anymore money.. this is not what we need again.. The stakes are to high, and we can't afford another 4 years of this type of old Washington. Hillary sign the Bankrupcy bill but then talks about caring for the middle class.. She need to be checked on that in the upcoming debate, and she needs to answer why she slapt middle to lower class Americans like that, and i can go on and on..
Of all the canidates which one of the canidates have a closer relationship with the middle class america John Macain who has been walking the walls of Washington for the past 40 years, Hillary Clinton been living the good life for the past 50 years getting all those lucritive tax breaks that for the last 7 years we know this because Bill always tells us about it, OR BARRACK OBAMA who has in the past few years living like regular AMERICANS!!! Well folks this is an easy answer...


BARRACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!

KENNY,
Unfortunately, for so many so-called "pro-lifers", the right to life begins at conception, but ends at birth (because so many support the death penalty).
Bill was a fine president.  Unlike our present outgoing jack-ass.  However, Hillary is not Bill.  She is not up to the job.  I'm going to vote for Obama to keep another war monger out of the white house.
I'm beginning to think that Old Bill is turning into the Brittany Spears of politics.  Poking people in the face is never appropriate.  What next, fistacuffs?  Clearly the stress of this campaign is starting to show.  He'll do anything to try to get the Mrs. elected.  If she doesn't get elected, his homelife will be most unpleasant, I suspect.
The first post on this blog asked when there would be a topic on Obama's plagarism.  Is anybody surprised by his plagarism?  Not me. With no substance, he needs something to prop himself up. When you're a fake, you're imitating something, right? When I heard Obama speak yesterday, I heard a lot of quotes but he gave no credit to the original speaker. He's trying to imitate and present himself as all the great men he quotes. What an insult. Those people had done great things before they became known as great people. Mr. Obama seems to want greatness with no sacrifice. It's similar to what he's trying to "sell" to people in his campaign. Hope and it shall be yours!


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