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Clinton 527 in OH, TX, PA?

Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:59 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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A hat tip to the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder, who broke the news that there is a pro-Clinton 527 planning "an expensive, stealth campaign to buttress her standing in the must-win states of Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania," he writes. "They're canvassing Clinton donors for pledges of up to $100,000 in the hope of raising at least $10M by the end of next week."

And a hat tip to Politico's Ben Smith, where we found the video of the 527's first ad for Clinton to run in Ohio.

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I am sorry but at this point Clinton's chances are zero. Anyone who continues to spend money on her campaign is throwing good money after bad.

Never Certain


You're looking at this news incorrectly. Where is Clinton going to get that kind of money in a week? Certainly not from the grassroots. No, this is big donor and foreign interest money - real hard to track - real hard to prove where it came from. Bill is working the phone real hard today for this money. People that have a vested interest in the Clintons winning, ie., the Clintons will pay them off once they are in office, those are the types of people that will give money. It will be illegal money, and some low-lifes that hedge the money for the Clintons will get caught and put in jail. But that's what it is all about with Bill and Hill, the little people take the fall for Clintons and their big-time contributors.
LETS TRY TO MAKE OBAMA LOOK AS BAD AS REST OF US HERE IN WASHINGTON.OH YEAH THAT SEEM,S LIKE A WINNING SOLUTION!HILLARY IS PART OF PROBLEM SHE IS NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION!
Friedrich Nietzsche said: "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." If Barack can show himself to be presidential over the next couple of weeks then he will win. I keep hearing wait till the Republican attack machine gets hold of him. Seems the Clinton attack machine is already using all the good stuff. Any attacks after this will be just rehasing that which did not work.
GOOD!!!!!
It's about time Hillary had someone stand up for her and fight back against you assholes in the media who have whored yourselves to Obama
Hey first read, how about informing us about REAL ISSUES, such as the apparent VOTER FRAUD that is happening right under our noses in NY. I read about this a few days ago and wondered why it was such a non issue.  You need to report on REAL NEWS,  ALso, you may want to let your readers know about Ms. CLintons upcoming leagal trouble with Peter Paul.  I know she thought she would already have the nomination by now and so it would be a non issue, but things havn't worked out as she planned, and I think voters should be informed that a TRIAL DATE against Ms. Clinton will be set on this Thursday, just in time for the debate!   Voters have the right to know this!!!!!!
Clinton lost the nomination two weeks ago on Super Tuesday. I find it humorous that the media is still talking about her chances of becoming the nominee.  Yeah, all she has to do is win 65% of all remaining delegates - something she's proven over and over again she cannot do. I think it's time for the party elders to have a chat with Hillary and ask her to excuse herself from the contest before she does any further harm.
If she cant manage the personnel and finances of her campaign, I'm worried as to how she will manage our huge deficit that Bush has left the next president to inherit.
So what?  Vote Hope (a pro Obama 527) does the same thing for him.  What's the problem?
That's my girl. Do whatever it takes to take the brother down from his pedestal.
A 527 is a group like the swift vote veterans. How very Rovian of the Clintons. Change? Sounds like the same old Bush tactics to me.
That's all they've got?  This line has been tried and tried again, and lost 10 times in a row.  Further evidence that people are cautious to go negative on Obama, our next president!
I cannot believe that Clinton is playing right into Obama's hands like this. If she doesn't denounce the activity of this 527 forcefully (by putting an end to it at inception), she will only solidify the notion that she approves of the politics of ripping people down and divisiveness, which Americans (not just Democrats) are clearly fed up with. Obama will now very easily prove his point that Clinton is nothing more than the typical politician who values winning above all else and is inept in bringing people together. In other words, I honestly don't think that it will help Clinton short-term (especially by as much as she needs at this point).

Besides, even if (and that's an underscored "if") Clinton gets the Democratic nomination by allowing this 527 to effectively smear a fellow Democrat out of the running, I think it's safe to say that it will backfire on her BIG-TIME come November. I imagine a majority of Obama-supporters will easily sit the November race out...at least the Obama-supporters that I know certainly will.

I sincerely hope that this 527 goes away fast because it will prove counterproductive to Clinton.  She's a smart, successful woman who shouldn't "need" the nomination this badly. It's completely distasteful (especially as an ex-First Lady), and it will hurt her standing with Democrats and non-Democrats alike. Wrong approach!!!    
Obama does not have the experience to run this country. And for all his anti-war talk, he wanted to bomb Pakistan for no reason - a sign of his naivete and lack of international expertise. Go Hillary, go!
Doesn't Hillary realize that THE COUNTRY IS TIRED OF HATE.  The country is tired of being run into the ground.  The country is tired of ALL OF THEM!!  I will vote for Obama.  P.S.  Republicans are voting for him with the expectation of voting for him in the General to all you conspiracy freaks.  This is one republican who will do just that!!!!  NO MORE CLINTONS!!!!!  NO MORE BUSH!!!!!  NO MORE!!!!!
Hillary is a socialist running as a Democrat. Obama is a Communist running as a Liberal. McCain is a Democrat running as a Republican. Huckabee is a Liberal Republican, social issues, running as a Conservative Republican.
Ron Pual is an American Patriot running as an American patriot.
I wonder if Pelosi will step in, and stop the bleeding?

Maybe Madame Speaker is enjoying the Clinton demise!
Hillary just loves to say "Come November 4th George W Bush's name will not be on the ballot" (Obama does too in fairness).

I simply can not wait to hear someone say:

"Come November 4th, for the first time in 28 years there will not be a Clinton or a Bush on the ballot!"

I'll be 37 on election day, my first memory that I can recall of a President is the Reagan/Carter election when I was in 3rd grade and we had a mock election. I had just turned 9.  Nearly all my life there has been either a Bush or a Clinton in the White House.

Seriously.  Do we really want to have another Clinton? Do you people really want:
Hillary Clinton 2008, 2012
Jeb Bush 2016, 2020
Chelsea Clinton 2024, 2028 (Billary need another 8 years!)
?!?!

It's time to move on.
Its okay for Obamanut to use 527's but not okay the other way around.  You all need to get a grip.

Not everyone has voted yet, so Hillary should carry onward.  

Do you people really think Obama can win the general Election?

You are as delusional as he is.
Meanwhile, Obama's wife, Michelle, has had an apparent slip of the tongue that has some of
the right wingers in a frenzy. Apparently, while speaking before a Milwaukee crowd Monday,
Michelle Obama said: "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am proud of my country and
not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."
(You can watch the video here)(  http://www.breitbart.tv/html/49244.html )
I am very disappointment I see so many people who are not useing there heads  And wanting to VOTE for Obama and his wife it makes me Sick that a Black person can get away with all this . and people can just forget it.
Is this something to be  proud of."?
to all you hillary haters....what the heck is so negative about this ad?? besides which, 527s are not illegal. challenging BO on his oratory skills with not much else behind them is fair game.
Biden, Dodd, and Edwards yeh they really speak for all Dems- get real Edwards is too cozy in his 27,000 sq. ft house to speak out but dont worry he is worried about your finances- Come on!!!
Doesn’t it bother anyone that none of the claims in this ad are supported by her Congressional records?
How long until the ads showing Obama at Studio 54 start running?  She's almost out of time.

These jokers will put stuff up that would make even Bill blush - it is kitchen sink time, after all
I watched this 527 ad provided by MSNBC and did not find anything wrong with it. These organizations may support a candidate,but are operating on their own. Obama-bots need to stop attacking Hillary Clinton and realize they need her supporters in order to win the nomination. I believe they have listened to their candidate say,"I will get her supporters, but I do not think she would get mine".
This is just more rhetoric to scare folks that are undecided to vote his way. A must-read article has been written in Newsweek by Robert Samuelson. This comes from an impartial point of view and is refreshing in its candor. I suggest these "Obama-bots" take a look. It might help to snap some these folks out of the spell being cast by the snake oil salesman.
I want to second an above post about the voting fraud in NYC. Why isn' this being reported??? 17 counties reported 0 votes for Obama in NYC, with heavy african american and affluent white voters. Mayor Bloomberg acknowledged fraud today as recounts show Obama even winning some of these counties! You must ask yourself who benefits? If it was one county it could be argued that it is a rogue element....but 17!!! So if you answer the why(of who it benefits) then that answer can only lead to one "who".
What's wrong with all of you, especially the women?
Are you all so jealous that you can not possibly see a woman run the country?
Obama will not deliver anything becasue he does not know how and 4 years is too long a learning curve.
Get a grip America when will you see that the flavor of the day will soon be passe.  
THIS BEARS REPEATING.....

So what?  Vote Hope (a pro Obama 527) does the same thing for him.  What's the problem?

That's my girl. Do whatever it takes to take the brother down from his pedestal.

Patty, San Diego, CA

It's actually perfect for McCain. Now he doesn't haveto do it.
Why hasn't FR reported the Teamster's endorsement of Obama yet?  

better hurry and cask thos eBillary checks before they come back insufficient funds.
Hillary Clinton she is not being honest in her motives to be president.  This rings particularly as hollows as it has always seemed to me that she felt all along that she was entitled to the presidency.  This entitlement shows the yuppy attitudes of some very spoiled people from another Clinton era. Obama is right we need to go forward and not relive and all too idealized past presidency which; if we choose to remember; had some very serious problems and did virtually nothing or the "little guys", or anyone else while being impeached for three very long, sad years.  Keep going Obama. Please not another BUSH/CLNTON nightmare.
What has Obama done for the State of Illinois since he has been in office.  Nothing but travel to Africa and other place for what reasons.  It surely did not help the State of Illinois in any matter.  You can just imagine what he would do as President of the USA.  Nothing..........  Go Hillary!
Hilliary has Solutions for America while obama has speeches for America.

If my fellow Democrats are stupid enough to fall for this routine so be it. I will NOT be there in November for you and I suspect a lot of other Democrats will not be either.

Micheal D.,
What you don't understand, is that the majority of us intelligent people are just that - intelligent!  We are very willing to put our hopes and country behind a candidate that wants to take the backroom, dirty dealings out of politics and give us some honest answers.  And I believe if Obama doesn't know all the answers (which by the way, NO ONE does), he will turn to experts in the field and get the best advice available.  What you fail to understand is that we are so sick of the sly, deceitful, scheming Clinton's, that we are that willing to put our faith in someone who at present is a breath of fresh air and appears open and honest to the American public
How pathetic, and typical of Hillary's scortched earth style
First let me say that Linda from San Diego - you are a bigot. You belong in the republican party.

Next, why are so many Clinton supporters so bitter. When Obama was 20 & 30 points down you didn't see this type of hate being spewed. In addition, unlike Linda from San Diego we are all Democrats who want the best for our country. If Obama wins, Hillary will play a key role in the senate OR as VP. If Hillary wins same thing for Barack.

Get a grip on yourselves. I think it's sad what I see going on. The most important thing is for Republicans to loose this election.

Think about it.
Obama policy and accomplishments: Please see his website. Read. Read. Read. It may take you a while. There is a lot of DETAIL. He has been in public service LONGER than Hillary. He has passed several important bipartisan bills (ethics, campaign finance, government contracts, Katrina legislation...). If you're one of those buying into Clinton's "talk" you're just as guilty. Do your own research for goodness' sake!
Sen Clinton just doesn't get it.  The American people are tired of the bickering and the slander.  We want what is best for our families not direct verbal accusation with whom you are running against.  Sen. Obama sticks with the issues at round tables and meeting with people, then he gives motivation speeches, it is not just speeches but of course Sen. Clinton would like us to believe that.  Sen. Obama only comes at Sen. Clinton when she attacks his campaign rightfully so.  If she would leave the knit picking alone and loose some of the drama baggage she would be alright but she paints a risky picture of scandles and drama.  Sen Clinton show the people what they want as far as your tax claims and the papers on the White House years and perhpas you can save yourself and campaign.  Not too much to ask since you need the peoples votes.
Just look at how successfull Obama's campaign has been. He has the most intelligent, hard-working, capable staff and volunteers running a historical campaign. Isn't that a microcosm of the things he could accomplish as president? I am impressed regardless of political affiliation!
Every campaign has its 527's. It's just not as common to set one up to fight a primary campaign. Quite telling don't you think? They can't get any new donors so they have to figure out a way to allow their richest existing fanatics to keep her sagging campaign hopes alive. It also indicates to me that Hillary is more than willing to destroy the Democratic Party to become president rather than accept the obvious.
Wow Hillary finally runs a decent ad!

By the way in 24 hours Obama has had more than 70,000 NEW donors and has brought in more than $5 Million...
I can't believe that the advertisement they are going to run is about JOBS!!!!  We here in Buffalo will drive the 2 hours to Ohio and let them know the truth about Hillary's ability to create jobs--

Borrowed from a post by Jim Kelly (NY Conservative Campaigns) on http://buffalonews.typepad.com:

In her first term running for United States Senate, Clinton promised those suffering in Western New York ... Economic Development, More Jobs and to Repopulate this Region of NY.

Clinton was to do so by "Promoting" Western New York State to American Business! Clinton Promised Western New York 250,000 NEW jobs by the end of her first term (Promising to Promote WNY to American Business Corporations)....

End result.....by the time Clinton was running for her second term, Western New York LOST another 25,000 Jobs.

TO: Michael D., Charleston, SC

Do your homework he is just a couple of thing Sen. Obama has done to bad there is not enough pages on the Blog to list them all but you said no one can name one so here is two for you.
Education: He increased the maximum Pell Grant award to $5,100. As a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, Obama helped pass legislation to achieve that goal in the recent improvements to the Higher Education Act. Obama has also introduced legislation to create Teacher Residency Programs and to increase federal support for summer learning opportunities.

Health Insurance: In 2003, Barack Obama sponsored and passed legislation that expanded health care coverage to 70,000 kids and 84,000 adults. In the U.S. Senate, Obama cosponsored the Healthy Kids Act of 2007 and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) Reauthorization Act of 2007 to ensure that more American children have affordable health care coverage.
Women's Health: Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.
At this rate 100 years war McCain will have more integrity than Clinton! The party will have to step in and stop her, this isn't what being a Democrat is about.
A 527 run by a republican will flame out the shooting star that is obamamania...they have no obligation to tell the truth nor do they answer to any political campaign so they cant be silenced...can't wait for the one that nails mccain on his sanitized POW experiences and flip flopping on the torture issue
We are no longer a nation of losers!


Why is Hillary Clinton losing the battle against Barack Obama to become the Democratic Party’s nominee for president?  It’s all boiling down to which candidate has the best set of leadership skills for the 21st century. More Americans choose his set and reject hers.

We truly do deserve the government we get.  And in this cycle, America feels they want, need, and deserve the leadership of Barack Obama.  “It’s the People, Stupid,” who believe the time is right, and this is why so many of them, for the first time in a long while, are working nonstop to get him elected.  Rather than being a “cult leader,” as the Clinton campaign so absurdly suggests, Barack Obama is in truth a “catalytic leader” because his is a transformational leadership whose mission is making the world a better place for the public good. The phrase was coined and described in the work of Dr. Jeffrey Luke of the University of Oregon.  Professor Luke founded The Luke Center for Leadership: www.lukecenter.org. It seems Barack Obama has the very type of leadership style we need at this very moment of world history.

According to the Luke Center, “catalytic leadership style is based on a vision, building partnerships, collaboration, and passion.”  It’s Obama’s leadership style that is representative of turning the page from the fights, divisions, and the blame game of the past to a brighter future of cooperation, unity, and real solutions for the 21st century.  As a nation, we are ready and “fired up” because, rather than remaining stunned silent like deer caught in the headlights of our drivers-in-chief, we, the People have finally gained our wits.  As such, we know we’re the deciders in ’08 and, at long last, we reject the George Bush-McCain autocratic style of “forcing your will upon others, not consulting with opposing voices, and falling prey to the supposed collective wisdom of a coterie that never disagreed with you” -- http://weneedobama.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-profoundly-catalytic-leader.html  failed policies and the Clintonian bureaucratic style of egocentric calculation, secrecy, and aggressive “gotcha, must-win-at-all-costs” failed strategies.  The 20th century Bush-Clinton dynasties have failed us and must end!  America is turning the page because Yes, We Can!



I cannot fathom why the "Obama has no substance" meme keeps getting repeated by people.

Was I the only one to listen to his 45 minute policy speech last night?

Andy,
Can I get an Amen!
You have some crazy person from California saying Obama is not electable and us supporters of Obama are dillusional. Have you not seen a McCain speech. Obama will run circle around him. McCain is no different then Bush. Fear Fear Fear! If McCain thinks he can beat Obama with Fear and Smear, McCain is the one who is dillusional with Linda from Cali. Does any of these peopl see the numbers. Obama had over 600,000 votes in Wisconsin while McCain had a little over 200,000 votes. I forsee the biggest landslide victory that this country has ever seen come November. Obama 08!
For those who say Obama has no substance - go to his site.  It's all listed there.  

We need someone to unite our country - once united we can solve our problems
527...swiftboaters!
Here we go again!  I hope the American people stand up and be counted...over and over...in primaries and in the Presidential Election that we WILL NOT TOLERATE the same old politics anymore.  You attack...you get NO VOTES.  If WE make this clear... speak like a statesman, on ISSUES, Don't put the other one down, tell me how you will DO IT BETTER, like the statesman you are, that will be representing the United States of America, ACT LIKE YOU HAVE CHARACTER, MORALS, and SELF RESPECT!  
MCcain has already lowered himself to this BS.  He will be like BUSH, ROVE, and CHENEY.
It is so embarrassing how much our politcal system resembles bullies on the playground!  The whole world is watching...and it makes us look like a BIG JOKE!!  could we please act like RESPONSIBLE ADULTS FOR ONCE!
God it's SICKENING and SO PATHETIC!


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