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The Lone Star Showdown

Posted: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:20 AM by Mark Murray

The Austin American-Statesman writes that Clinton and Obama “affably two-stepped for half a debate in Austin on Thursday night before bursting into prickly exchanges over which of them is better poised to lead the country after two terms by President Bush.”

The Houston Chronicle says the debate "offered few surprises Thursday as they tangled over universal health care and who would be best able to serve as president on the first day in office. Clinton tried to portray Obama as a candidate lacking in experience to handle the office, but he described her as a candidate embedded in a type of politics that has resulted in gridlock in Washington."

The AP: “It was an unexpectedly gracious moment in a debate that was supposed to be a game changer for Clinton in the run-up to crucial primaries in Texas and Ohio March 4. After losing 11 straight contests to Obama in a race now clearly breaking his way, the former first lady chose the high road and even delivered what sounded to many like the dress rehearsal for a campaign valedictory address.”

The Washington Post: "The Democratic debate began politely but gathered force in the closing portions with pointed exchanges on substantive issues and about the traits required of a president. The forum closed with a flourish, after the candidates were asked to describe how they had dealt with crises in their lives."

The New York Times: "Mrs. Clinton entered the debate with her advisers somewhat torn about how aggressive to be against Mr. Obama, who is enjoying significant political momentum after his string of victories and has a narrow lead in delegates for the Democratic nomination. Some advisers said she believed that simply by sitting on a stage, making her cases side-by-side with Mr. Obama, would reap points because she would look experienced and presidential. But others said she needed to be more assertive in making him seem ill-prepared for the job.”

“As for her actual performance, Mrs. Clinton appeared relaxed at times as she made her case. At other points, she looked as if she could not wait to deliver punches or respond to Mr. Obama’s remarks. Still, little that she said appeared to rattle him."

The Los Angeles Times: "Much of the pre-debate conversation centered on whether Clinton would launch a major offensive to gain ground she has lost to Obama in recent contests among those who once formed the backbone of her campaign, including lower-income and less-educated voters, women, and white men. But, with the exception of the ‘Xerox’ line, there were no new thrusts from the New York senator. Indeed, at times she appeared tentative."

The Miami Herald, not surprisingly, leads with the Cuba disagreements between the two Dems.

The AP’s Fournier: Was that a white flag waving over Texas? Democrats who think Hillary Rodham Clinton needs to do something dramatic - like going negative - to save her presidential candidacy might wonder about her mostly positive, always cautious debate performance Thursday night. The New York senator is not one to surrender easily and nobody should count her out prematurely, but Clinton's kid-gloves approach with Barack Obama raises questions about her strategy headed into two must-win primaries March 4.” 

Roger Simon on the debate: "Stylistically, Clinton seemed to enjoy herself more - - she beamed throughout the evening - - and while Obama clearly had a head cold, I have watched him at 19 of these debates now and I have never gotten the impression he was enjoying himself. Enjoyment is not impossible. John Edwards, a trial lawyer, clearly enjoyed the cut and thrust of debates. But Obama not so much. He prefers speeches (his own and others) to debating.  Still, he made his two key points: First, inspiration matters."

The Boston Globe’s Canellos: “Obama last night was wonky and detailed enough to set heads nodding in Capitol committee rooms, but delivered probably the most effectively boring debate performance in recent presidential politics.” More: [W]hile Clinton did nothing to hurt her chances, she failed to deliver any such game-changing moment. And Obama did not provide one with any serious gaffes.”

Per NBC’s Ron Allen, it was a pretty crazy scene at a place called Guero's in Austin after the debate, where Hillary and Chelsea Clinton were inside the packed Tex-Mex restaurant. Several dozen more people were outside trying to look through the windows. "Madame President, Madame President," people were shouting inside.

Campaigning in San Antonio last night, Bill Clinton praised his wife’s performance, NBC/NJ’s Carrie Dann notes. "I thought it was obvious that I was ready to be president and lead tomorrow," he said. Later, he declared that he "loved it" when his wife lauded Obama during the debate and called for national unity. But the mushiest line came when the press corps got a rare within-earshot opportunity to lob a softball his way. Asked what his favorite part of the debate was, he touched his heart affectionately and said "Oh, her closing. That's my girl."

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It seems no matter what Truth Hilliary says obama there are not enough normal/rational people to listen to her.

I still think she should point out obama's MANY WEAKNESSES and also announce who her VP canidate would be say an AA female or a Hispanic man or women.

Senator Clinton needs to attack obama like he is a disease because he and his supporters will be the ruin of the democratic and 2 party system

PLEASE VOTE FOR HILLIARY
I hope this gets posted by MNSBC.

I support Hilary simply because she is a fighter. She will not get pushed over. Something her campaign failed to highlight. In fact it could have been her slogan.

I was bent on voting the other way if she fails to get the nomination. I truly believe we need her expertise to get us out of this mess. She simply has a great command of the issues and had in fact worked on solving them long before Obama found Change as a slogan.

I am particularly turned off with Obama's supporters along with his wife not to mention his lack of experience in foreign policy. I was starting to feel sorry about being a Democrat.

After last night's debate, I realized why I am one. I did not see hatred in Hilary, I sincerely believe that IF Obama gets the nomination, she will support him in the name of party unity. If she - the one in the line of fire - is able to show this much willingness to unite the party, why can't I?

I've listened to the 'experts' at CNN and just about everyone in the media. No one saw it the way I did. Everyone was busy spinning things and throwing their interpretation of the debate.

She could have thrown mud and made it confrontational, as everyone expected. Certainly would have helped her campaign. But she choose the high road.

Obama run a good campaign - perhaps thanks to 14 former staff of Bill Clinton now belonging to him. Mark Penn and company obviously is in it for other reasons. I have them to blame for failing miserably to highlight why Hilary is the person for the job.

Hilary whatever happens, you have my respect and admiration. Thank you for your patriotism, your hard work. I have learned so much by simply listening to you.

Obama supporters, please do not get so cocky. It is not over yet. More importantly, he will need ALL democrats IF he gets the nomination. If he can't unite and cross that line, what are the chances he'll be able to do so with the Republicans?




This country has been heading in the wrong direction for almost eight years. We either turn it around now or it will be too late. Obama is not the man to do it. Wake up america and vote for Hillary!
Dawn - now you are attacking democracy. You're argument is that Hillary would win, if only the people were smart enough to see she should.

I don't think that's a good argument. I'm an Obama supporter, but I acknowledge that a lot of reasonable people are on the other side of this question. I just happen to believe that a slightly larger number of reasonable people are on Obama's side.
It is almost over.

We have to unite now.

Obama supporters: time for us to show that we can be good winners.

Hillary supporters: you are welcome to join us.
Joyce is right. He will need all democrats. And she will too.

I like what you say Joyce and though I feel Clinton cannot catch Obama, I agree we need the entire party behind the Candidate.

Thanks for your truthful message and I admire your support for your candidate. Just realize it works both ways. I have deep support for mine as well.

Democrats will reclaim the white house with all of our support no matter the candidate. They are both qualified as they are the last two standing. To think otherwise is just being biased.

Obama 08!
Paul Miller, I agree with Dawn. There are not enouph smart people to vote for Hillary. Too many people see Obama as this great savior that will change everything. Don't forget how many smart people put Bush in office and twice at that.
To Joyce NY, NY:

Great post - I could tell your words came from your heart.

I, in good faith, could NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA.  Obama ahd his campaign has done and pulled so many dirty tricks that am am STRONGLY AGAINST.  If Obama gets the nomination, I will not vote for him.  One point you made I do agree with and that is All Obama followers fail to see that with Hillary supporters Obama will not Win or even have a chance.
Joyce Ny...Don't hate congradulate Obama clearly PICKED the right people regardless of them being former Clinton associates....what differance does it make.
Can YOU point out his weaknesses Dawn? Are you in the loop to know them? If there were any large enough to bring up at the debate, or in her stump speeches, don't you think Hillary would? Instead, she tries to smear him any way she can. Nobody is perfect, but I see one great weakness in Hillary. When she doesn't get her way she attacks with a childish abandon. Not very presidential in most everyone's eyes. Except your's of course.
As far as a 2-party system goes, that was for checks and balances. It was to insure that this country was not led down the wrong path. It gave us 2 paths that were side by side. But these days, I am sure you will agree, these paths have spread apart so far that nothing gets done. Bringing the parties(paths) back together is the only way. In no way would it become one party. That would never happen. But, both sides need to realize that we do need to unify as a people or democracy as we know it is doomed. European leaders said, years and years ago, that our democracy would never last. Well, it has so far. And the only way to bring it back to be seen as the greatest republic in the world, is to recognize that we are all Americans no matter what race, religion, gender, or political persuassion.
GO WORK WITH YOURSELF.DONT DESTROY MY PICK AND EXPECT HELP IN NOV> MACAIN 08 A TRUE FIGHTER AND WAR HERO OBAMAS ONLY FIGHTS A COLD NO REAL WARRIOR THERE
There will be no victory without unity.
Appreciate your response MTex. I can only hope other Obama supporters have the same sense as you do. I hate reading the very personal attacks on her. Challenge her on policy's and platform but enough of Bill, etc...

There are people like myself - thanks to Hilary's encouragement last night - who are willing to cross that line. Let's just hope that other Obama supporters do not tick us off any further enough to not follow her lead - that is IF he gets the nomination.

He will need her fighting spirit. Something she'd shown against the Republicans for 20 years along with her own personal struggles.

She deserves respect no matter how close and hotly contested this election had been. Let's not go down mud slinging. Give her credit for her ideas and her resolve.

HILARY YOUR AN INSPIRATION.



Did Bill Clinton really say this:
Campaigning in San Antonio last night, Bill Clinton praised his wife’s performance, NBC/NJ’s Carrie Dann notes. "I thought it was obvious that I was ready to be president and lead tomorrow," he said.

Shouldn't he of said "she" was ready to be President?  Was this a major Bill Clinton gaffe or simply a typo by First Read?
I wish Obama had touched on Hillary's past record to emphasize the negativees of her past, although I understand that is not his way. But someone needs to bring to the American peoples attention more facts on her record which shows her backing down to lobyists and accepting huge contributions for doing so. This has been going on for years.  Obama slightly touched on this when he spoke of the failed attempt to change health care when she was Mrs President Clinton but didn't get into the dirty of it all. Hillary does represent the failed political ways of the past and bowing to the special interests. Why should we believe this will all of a suddent change if she were president?  Wake up America - she represents what we are tired of in our goverment and this is why Obama needs to be our next leader. We need to end this policy to get back to the American dream and lead this country.
Bridget, Ohio - I don't hate Obama, did you read my entire post?

No one can truly predict how PR firms and campaign people will perform - unless you have the ability to see the future. Mark Penn's firm has good and credible reputation.

Bill Clinton also picked those 14, unfortunately for Hilary, Obama got to them first. Regardless, it's water under the bridge now. No candidate - no matter how briliant he or she is - could win without the help of these firms. Plus great funding off course.

Nashville fan - thanks, it is from the heart.

Hilary is a fighter and an inspiration. No matter what happens, I have tremendous respect for her.

"..There will be no victory without unity. ..."
Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 10:22 AM)

...and there will be no unity unless there is fairness.
SEAT HILLARY'S DELEGATES FROM MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA!
I hope everyone that reads these blogs notice the unwaivering support for Hillary, no matter what she does!  Their support stretches from her inability to maintain her campaign finances (instead she spends it on lavish hotels and donuts), her clear flip-flop on agreeing with the DNC to strip Florida and Michigan (now she clearly wants them seated and accounted for), the countless times she misrepresents Sen. Obama's positions, and her ability to be warm and caring about   Sen. Obama, and the people that vote for him (actually she would rather spit negative slogans at him and tell the American people that they need to get real).  Lets open our eyes people and realize that what we thought was a good candidate with a lot of good experience to lead, was just pandering.  Open your EYES!
PLEASE POST:
I have become very active in campaigning in Ohio for Senator Obama and I would like for everybody to know that His campaign staff pass this message to all that volunteer to represent him: RESPECT, EMPOWER, INCLUDE!  All supporters that fail to do this misrepresent him and are hurting and not helping our party. Please consider these words when posting a blog that could alienate our fellow citizens!
I would have titles the debate Senator Clinton versus Senator Me To.  The only specifics Senator Obama ever seems to own up to are the specifics Senator Clinton forwards that he agrees with.  The most important contrast is on health insurance reform where Clinton has a position and Obama "hopes" that given some unspecified program that uninsured people will buy it.  When will the media push Senator Obama to provide a specific answer to a specific question?  An Obama supporters remember that John Kerry was up twenty points over President Bush four years ago.  Don't assume that just because Senator Clinton has avoided going negative that Senator McCain will give him a free pass.
I am an educated professional woman in texas, age 47, right in the clinton demographics.  but i have seen the clintons in the white house and i do not want to see it or that type of politics any further.  i am proud to be teaching my daughter to be part of a process that many of us have not seen for years.  but, let me address your experience issue.  as far as being an elected official, obama wins hands down.  hillary failed at health care once while not in office with a democratic congress.

obama has passed great legislation on ethics, despite the question last night, he has DISCLOSED his earmarks and his tax returns.  he has legislation on for veterans, anti-nuclear proliferation, and is STRONG ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS.  Look at the feminists that support him.  Look at his policies and these things are there

finally, the divisive nature of clinton and the secrecy are things that i cannot support.  

been there done that for 8 years.  ready for change.

GO OBAMA
I cannot and will not vote for Obama. He reminds me too much of George W. Bush.  He is too arrogant, just like W. That attitude leads to disasters like Iraq.  I cannot vote for McCain (100 yrs in Iraq???)  However, I cannot dishonor those who have died so that I have the right to vote.  If she loses the nomination, I will ask for a write-in ballot and vote for Hillary Clinton. Again I cannot in good conscience vote for OBama or McCain.  
Dawn, Pittsburgh, PA (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 9:46 AM)
This race is not over. IF...I say IF Obama wins, Hillary and Bill Clinton WILL unite behind him as Obama would Unite behind her. She will demand that her supporters get behind Obama as Obama would demand his supporters get behind her. I am perplexed at your fear of Obama. Their policies are so close that it is hard for them to debate without agreeing with each other. I also believe that her performance in the debate last night signals that she will not go "scorched earth" She is far too young, has far too much promise, and loves her Party and more importantly her Country too much to allow this opportunity to slip through our fingers. Let us all resolve to see this through and support the nominee of the party. I take great pride in BOTH of these candidates. I have four daughters and three granddaughters and Hillary Clinton is held up in our house as an example of a strong, capable woman and how hard it STILL is to be a strong, capable woman in this Country. But it all comes down to electiblity. We must put forth the candidate who will appeal to the most voters in the general election. We must put forward the candidate who angers the least amount of voters.
In the end. Obamas campaign is more of a "Cult of Practicality" than it is a "cult of personality". He has struck a cord and may be the candidate with a message whose time has come. We would be foolish not to seize this opportunity.
this will not get in your comments as attacks the very bias reporting on obama and hillary.  she cannot beat the media who has never let up bashing her. media picks the winning candidate not the voting of the people.  you have made sure of that
I am an educated professional woman in texas, age 47, right in the clinton demographics.  but i have seen the clintons in the white house and i do not want to see it or that type of politics any further.  i am proud to be teaching my daughter to be part of a process that many of us have not seen for years.  but, let me address your experience issue.  as far as being an elected official, obama wins hands down.  hillary failed at health care once while not in office with a democratic congress.

obama has passed great legislation on ethics, despite the question last night, he has DISCLOSED his earmarks and his tax returns.  he has legislation for veterans, anti-nuclear proliferation, and is STRONG ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS.  Look at the feminists that support him.  Look at the ones that left the Clinton side AFTER they saw the way that his record is being misconstrued. Look at his policies and these things are there

finally, the divisive nature of clinton and the secrecy are things that i cannot support. and i cannot support anyone who has to sound bite falsehoods about someone else's record to get on top.

been there done that for 8 years when they were in washington.  ready for change.

GO OBAMA
You hit the nail on the head Brandon in El Paso.
Joyce -

I appreciated your initial sentiment. I hope that you can understand that I was at the very opposite side of the debate.  I have been an Obama fan for years, and truly believe in his policies.  I was not "against" Hillary - I was simply for a different candidate, as was my right.

But then, I felt that her campaign began to get ugly as it began losing. I felt the plagarism scandal was asinine - let us debate policy, please!  Stop the smear and mud slinging.  And the discussion about seating MI and FL delegates only when it because clear that she needed them - I truly found it offensive. I want a leader who desrves to win, and I began to feel like her campaign would do all it could - lie, cheat and steal if it needed to - to win.

As a younger American, that is precisely why I despise politics.  Her campaign, to me, was what is wrong with our country.  And so I slowly began to be against her, instead of just in support of Obama.  I have been doing a great deal of research on McCain, as I did not feel that I could support a Hillary ticket.

Last night, with her closing which felt so honest to me, I have changed my mind.  Last night I found her to be a human being, and a good one at that.  I felt that perhaps she stood up to her campaign - the ones that felt she needed to be this angry candidate and tear her competition down, isntead of just making the case as to why she would be a good commander in chief.

We do all need to come together, behind our candidate. And I think both sides realized last night that you must stop tearing each other down for we as a party to succeed.

You called us, the Obama supporters, cocky.  There is a difference between cocky and proud, you know. I hope that you can respect our strongfelt respect for our candidate, as we should respect yours.  You hate hearing the personal attacks against her - we hate hearing them against our candidate too, you know.  

I am sorry if you feel that we are going to "tick you off" - tick you off by rallying around someone who has personally touched us, and inspired us, and made us proud.  Please do not minimalize our support of a candidate, understanding that the supporters of the person in the lead are always "cocky" in the eyes of those that are not.  I remember quite a bit of celebration and "I told you so!" after her win in new Hampshire, don't you?

Let's stop the attacks and focus on what matters.  I believe we - all of us, Hillary and Obama supporters alike - are responsible for allowing this campaign to be so divisive.  Let's respect each other and come together.
J Menz - I don't agree. Going negative on Clinton now would be a terrible idea for Obama. First, let's not forget he's winning, so we ought to presume his team knows how to win. Second, frontrunners seemingly headed toward nomination don't need to tear their opponents down.

Especially when it seems that Clinton, too, is taking a higher road. I was impressed with her last night from the perspective that we all assumed she would go scorched-earth, despite how that may impact the party and November election. She didn't do that. She didn't roll over and play dead, but clearly maintained a sense of not wanting things to deteriorate further.

And, yes, I watched only because the Pitt-Notre Dame game wasn't on in my area. But I felt vindicated when I realized that neither candidate really offered a new answer to anything last night. I promise, I'll miss the 20th.

Its just too much - hopefully the general election debates won't begin for a long time, and there will be some effort to limit their number.
I am an Obama supporter, but I am willing to support Hillary if she wins the nomination.  Come on Democrats, we have to be smarter than the republicans and unite together for whomever wins the democratic nomination.  Don't let your own pride and arrogance give the White House to another republican.  I don't think any of us truly wants that.
For those who don't know Obama here's a good read and make an educated decision if you really care about American's future. Link below:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
Last night's debate merely showed that Obama has taken pretty good notes (in prior debates) of Hillary's more solid issue stances. Sadly, that doesn't mean this ultimate "shapeshifter" has either the substance nor the interest in platform follow-through. To see more of the real Obama just link to this authentic and revealing video-clip:


http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BBCF096CA0DA7380ACEFBD9A8640FDF475

(The first brave network to air this video will get the news scoop of the entire campaign and will do a great service for the American people.)
I hear alot about Hillary Clintons experience and expertise even though she has never run anything. Most of this is based on her husband being president. If my spouse were a surgeon, I doubt there were be anyone wanting me to perform their next operation. It really leads one to question what the qualifications to run for president should be.
OBAMA IS FAKE.....HE USES "SLOGANS" AS "HOPE" TO ATTRACT DESPAIR VOTERS.
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM....HE GREW-UP IN A VERY MUSLIM SOCIETY-AS INDONISIA.HE HAS HALF SISTER IN INDONISIA MUSLIM.
AS A CHRISTIAN I WIIL NEVER VOTE FOR A MUSLIM..
Fellow Citizens,
After the comments made by Bill Clinton right before the South Carolina primaries, I was outraged.  I vowed that I would not vote for Hillary even if she and Obama were on the same ticket. I stated that I would even vote for McCain.  But now I've come to my senses and realize that this is bigger than me.  This is the future of our country, and I do not want to see that important duty put into the hands of another republican any time soon.  I continue to be an Obama supporter because I am impressed by his judgement on the war in Iraq and his courage to stand up and speak against it from the beginning.  Also, I truly feel that he has the necessary characteristics and integrity to beat McCain, but I will back which ever one becomes the Democratic nominee.
One being a Clinton supporter during and after the presidency of Bill, I have lost more and more respect for them. I don't buy the fighter baloney because while it exhibts strength it negates itself in devisiveness, stubborness and entitilement. Th4ese are diseases that need to be purged from American Politics domestically and itnernationally as much as possible. I have respect for what many figures of the past have contributed, including the Clintons, but I also recognize when they are stuck in the past. If she were really the right choice, she would have proven herslf through innovation and unprecedented disclosure (inviting more democratic engagement). Hillary has proven to me she is of the past. Part of what need to be in the past is self ambition at all costs. She and her husband have nudged the Democtratic party to the verge of implosion. The only good thing to come from that is that the resulting national catharsis is clearing the way for change. A new more inclusive majority is rising from every corner of America. I have more faith in the ability of this unprecedented new enrgy and participation in changing, in fact saving our countyr than Hillary or any other candidate represents.

Join behind Obama. Plase your ideas on the table with everyone. Hash it out. Save the country and maybe evn the planet....In a world where violence is errupting in just about every corner and true democracy is under threat...who dares say they will not sit down with any leader in the world to negotiate? I don't see the American pig hesdedness that is going to make the world bite us back in Obama. I don't see this in any other candidate either.

I clean campaign will have the most chance at unifying people in the future. That unity will be sorely needed.

Vote for Obama!
Democrats and Independents if you really care about this country, you will not let another republican take control of the White House.  Get over your personal feelings and support the Democratic nominee.
Way to go TEXAN. It's always best, when you're a racist, to announce it openly so people can know they don't need to pay attention to your opinion.

Thanks for your honesty.
The Obama message: Hillary is too divisive, too hated, to unite the country.
This is simplistic and disingenous, and the definition of a negative campaign.
She is divisive because she has been a champion and victor for progressives. Her very experience in the reality of politics has brought the hatred of the opposing partisans. The Monica affair turned the media viciously against her, and they have kept the hatred of the extremists alive and attempt to fan it at any excuse.
Obama is more liberal and has not worked with Republicans as much. He was not part of the "gang of 14" that sought moderation in who would be Supreme Court justices. There are many other examples like this, if you care to look.
He has been a main-line partisan Democrat, IF YOU LOOK AT HIS RECORD, NOT HIM. In office, he will be less able to "Unite" with those who oppose him, and pass real reform (social sec, war, etc).
The less moderate/centrist candidate will not have an easier time with the opposing party. Unless Democrats control 61 senate seats and 2/3 of the House, you need to work with the minority.
Only a moderate and pragmatic politician, like the Clintons have always been, can move the country forward. Please do not give in to the hate of extremists and media personalities full of ego.
both hillary and obamma have thier heart in the right place when it comes to the american people however, i believe hillary won the texas debate hands down. obamma was too much of a monday morning quaterback. quick to point out what's wrong with our country and what he would fix.  everyone knows what needs fixing. the question is HOW are you going to fix it? we need specifics. on the other hand, the one that really lost the debate was campbell brown. she showed who she was favoring by trying to cut off hillary when she was making a point and letting obamma rant on with just rehtoric.
GO HILLARY!
did the obamamama wake up this morning still proud of her country? she'll have to be a bit more patriotic than that as a first lady.
Seat any of Hillary's delegates from Michigan and Florida? Are you kidding me? Her name was the only one on the ballot in Michigan and she's the only one that came to Florida, despite her prior agreement with all the other candidates not to? Yeah right!!!!!
To: Jackie, Minneapolis MN

I wish all Obama supporters have the same perspective as you do. However, there are those that are becoming cocky perhaps by sensing a victory is in the horizon thereby alienating the other half of the Democrats.

In NH, everyone predicted Obama will win double digits. She won in that state despite the polls. If you saw celebration, I think it was called for. She was asked to get out of the race after Iowa. It wasn't being cocky, it was more of a sign of relief and being thankful.

All I'm saying is, her massage - at least to me - last night was let's get behind a Dem candidate - no matter who it turns out to be. She's even reached out to him behind the scene.

I can only hope that the rest of Obama's supporters not sharing your insights do not jeopardize that - IF he gets the nomination - by continuing to throw mud her way. She deserves respect and credit for her ideas and hard work, her resolve. At least be decent enough to give her that.


Jeff - Aurora

This is exactly my question. When did First Lady count as an elected position ? Her experience includes her husbands postions in government both as governor and President.

Obama has more experience as an elected official.

Would passing 5,000 more pieces of legislation in the Senate make him more qualified ? His legislative record is more expansive than hers and she has been there longer

If OBAMA had lost 11 elections in a row, would ANYONE suggest he could still win, that he should be allowed to continue ? NO !! They'd be telling him to get out of the way so the Democratic party can get on with the general election. Then everyone says the media gives Obama a pass. The media gives Clinton a total pass as we all watch her fail time after time.

The one thing we can all observe is her management of her own campaign. The approach to fund raising, the staff she chose (her friends not competence just like Bush). If she cannot manage her campaign how on earth could she manage the country ?



Byron.
Religion has NOTHING TO DO WITH racism.
I said:I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A MUSLIM.It's NOT a racist remark.
Hey if Hillary cannot even manage her finances how can she expect to manage the country's?  Barack is talking about uniting the county, while Hillary is talking about fighting.  She should just let the best candidate Barack Obama be the candidate.  He is clearly the better choice.  He wants to unite our country again.   Also, exactly what is her experience in?  Also, I would like to know what she has experience in.  Is it her marriage which she can't even handle or is it her campaign managing which she lacks money for is it in her money handling which she cannot do?    I feel that she can't even manage these things so how can she manage our country.  I seriously would not ever be able to vote for her because I have no confidence in her decisions and what she would do to our country.  Barack is a worker who will actually help our country.  I have faith in him and his judgement.  He is more honest in every way then Clinton could hope to be.  Clinton is just a political machine that wants power.  I hated the Clinton years and would not want to repeat them again.  We should give a fresh candidate a chance.  I love the fact that he is fresh and will work his hardest to bring our country together.  Please think about this Clinton supporters.  We would love for you to join us in having a real person and not a political machine.  GO BARAK OBAMA!!!  We love you.
Did I really read someone say that people weren't SMART enough to vote for Clinton? Really...

I have two Bachelor Degrees, a Masters in Quantitative Genetics, and a Doctor of Chiropractic. I have written several books and speak on health, wellness and psychology. I have an IQ in the mid-130's and read a minimum of two new books a month. This is not to brag- only to respond to an ironically backward claim.

I am one of Dawn's "not smart enough" people. In fact, in nearly every state, Obama has dominated among those with the highest educational levels, i.e. those who generally pay the closest attention to politics. You can look at the many exit polls for this fact.

In addition, in every state, Obama has gained significant support as the election drew closer and people in that state started paying more attention, whereas Clinton's support remained roughly the same. This also clearly shows that the more people had a chance to study both candidates, their best intelligent judgments led them more and more toward Obama. In addition, the vast majority of editorial boards of major and minor newspapers (not stupid people mind you) are now endorsing Obama after careful review.

It's sad that people become so limited in their beliefs and so narrow-minded that they simply assume the first bullet-point attack they hear is true (as long as it comes from their candidate). Obama was the first African-American President of Harvard Law Review. He teaches constitutional law. He has written (himself, not using someone else) two bestsellers and won a grammy for The Audacity of Hope. In his short time in the U.S. Senate, he has authored more meaningful legislation than Clinton has during her entire time there (check out the Library of Congress to find the facts).

To deride Obama supporters as being less than smart is an insult to Americans. To claim people aren't "smart" enough to vote for Clinton completely disregards the actual facts of the campaign.

Obama has a message and a mission that transcends Clinton's policy statements. His message speaks to the current desires of a majority of Americans. Sen. Clinton is a smart politician with some excellent ideas. But this simply isn't enough in the minds of the majority. More Americans want what Obama represents. That's the simple fact of this primary. Don't insult the intelligence of the Democratic electorate just to defend your candidate.
Hey if Hillary cannot even manage her finances how can she expect to manage the country's?  Barack is talking about uniting the county, while Hillary is talking about fighting.  She should just let the best candidate Barack Obama be the candidate.  He is clearly the better choice.  He wants to unite our country again.   Also, exactly what is her experience in?  Also, I would like to know what she has experience in.  Is it her marriage which she can't even handle or is it her campaign managing which she lacks money for is it in her money handling which she cannot do?    I feel that she can't even manage these things so how can she manage our country.  I seriously would not ever be able to vote for her because I have no confidence in her decisions and what she would do to our country.  Barack is a worker who will actually help our country.  I have faith in him and his judgement.  He is more honest in every way then Clinton could hope to be.  Clinton is just a political machine that wants power.  I hated the Clinton years and would not want to repeat them again.  We should give a fresh candidate a chance.  I love the fact that he is fresh and will work his hardest to bring our country together.  Please think about this Clinton supporters.  We would love for you to join us in having a real person and not a political machine.  GO BARAK OBAMA!!!  We love you.
I can’t believe how easily people buy into the political tactics that Senator Clinton plays. She did not give Senator Obama praise at the end of the debate because she felt that way, rather it was a calculated decision to make HER look better.  Just like that “tear” did before. She is a very smart, calculating politician. Unfortunately for her, people like me are sick of that kind of politics.

Obama is not perfect but I see him as the best chance of changing the “status quo”   in Washington. Mrs. Clinton is a better fighter, but do we need/want a fighter in Washington? I am betting that the majority of people in this country do not. Besides, I don’t think people want this country run by just two families for thirty or so years. Can anyone spell dynasty?  
Please Hillary, if you don't get the nomination, please run as an independant.  You need to save this election from bad and worse.  You are the ONLY one with the common sense, action, hard work and determination to stand up for our country and improve it.  Hopes don't bring change, action does.  And not action for the upper class, or action for oil companies.  Action for the middle class!!!!  Does anyone remember the ninties?  The SURPLUS?  Bill got our budget on track, why would we NOT want him helping out around the white house doing that?  She's SHOWN credentials on foreign policy... I believe obama last night said he "believes he has the judgement" to lead our country.  Well, if i say that too will people vote for me?  I'm sure this country is full of people who "believe they have the judgement" to run our country better... Shouldn't they all run?  There are inspirational speakers out there all over, they can unite people and bring them together... Should they run?  We need someone who has ALREADY shown dedication to the american people, not someone who "believes they have the judgement" to... Please people, please... and if you can't see, we will write her name on the ballot... right next to the slogan SHE ALREADY HAS BROUGHT CHANGE.


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