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Obama defends 'liberal' label

Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:30 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
AUSTIN, Texas -- In the shadow of the state capitol that provided the United States with one of the most conservative presidents in recent history, Obama last night railed against the charge that being "liberal" was a bad thing.
 
"Oh, he's liberal,” he said. “He's liberal. Let me tell you something. There's nothing liberal about wanting to reduce money in politics that is common sense. There's nothing liberal about wanting to make sure [our soldiers] are treated properly when they come home.”
 
Continuing on his riff: "There's nothing liberal about wanting to make sure that everybody has healthcare, but we are spending more on healthcare in this country than any other advanced country. We got more uninsured. There's nothing liberal about saying that doesn't make sense, and we should so something smarter with our health care system. Don't let them run that okie doke on you!"
 
Nearly 20,000 people came to see Obama speak at a chilly outdoor rally with the backdrop of the state capitol, bare trees and a plump moon rising in the night sky.
 
Obama told the crowd that he loved Austin and reminded them that he came here soon after he announced for the presidency. And his love may be for good reason. His chances in Texas appear to be looking brighter, per a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll that shows him pulling even with Clinton.
 
Going on the offense against McCain and Clinton, Obama reprised his argument about negotiating with foreign dictators in what appeared to be an unnamed allusion to his statement in Thursday's Democratic debate that he would meet with Raul Castro without preconditions, something which McCain hammered him for Friday morning.
 
"I have said earlier in this campaign I would meet not just with leaders we liked,” Obama said, “but leaders we didn't. Not just our friends but with our enemies, and I was told by Washington, ‘Oh you can’t do that! You can’t do that. That would be naïve, that would be irresponsible.' John McCain’s been repeating this line over the last couple days, and I have to remind John McCain and Hillary Clinton of what John F. Kennedy said, that we should never negotiate out of fear, but we should never fear to negotiate.”
 
He also told the crowd that McCain was "lassoed" to the policies of George W. Bush.  Explaining why he was "tough enough" to run against McCain, he delivered his winning line of the night.
 
"I wouldn't be here if I wasn't tough,” Obama said. “Nobody gave me…Listen I'm a black guy named Barack Obama running for president. You can’t tell me I ain't tough. Shoot!"
 
The crowd screamed loudly while Obama went on the attack against McCain, and he shouted out to them, "Settle down Austin!"
 
If the argument that a cult of personality has developed around Obama's campaign, tonight's event in Austin was a case in point. People in the crowd held up large cardboard signs with his face painted on them. The shops along the streets had posters with Obama's face and the word "HOPE" on them. 
 
Obama acknowledged the criticism of the enthusiasm that's risen in recent weeks. "And ya know what? Well they make fun of you all too by the way,” Obama said. “They make fun of you guys. They say, ‘All these people who are following Obama they're delusional. They just like pretty words, they don't really understand what's going on.’ Lets get real.”
 
He started his remarks with an acknowledgment and moment of silence for the officer who was killed yesterday in Clinton's motorcade. Telling the crowd that he had taken a picture with the motorcycle detail that had also protected him just a day earlier.
 
Tonight's event wrapped up a three-day visit to Texas. Obama heads to Ohio tomorrow to try and close the lead Clinton enjoys there.

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Obama is a liberal. Expect your taxes to double if he's President.
OBAMA ON THE ATTACK! OBAMA THE VALIANT FRONTRUNNER!
OBAMA DEFENDEDING HIS WORDS!  OBAMA SPEWING HOT AIR INTO THE FRAGRANT NIGHT SKY.  OBAMA WAXING POETIC WITH HIS WORSHIPERS AT HIS FEET. GET YOUR KOOL AIDE HERE!
OBAMA SO HIGH IN THE POLLS HE CAN SEE JESUS FROM UP There!
OBAMA ON THE ATTACK! OBAMA THE VALIANT FRONTRUNNER!
OBAMA DEFENDEDING HIS WORDS!  OBAMA SPEWING HOT AIR INTO THE FRAGRANT NIGHT SKY.  OBAMA WAXING POETIC WITH HIS WORSHIPERS AT HIS FEET. GET YOUR KOOL AIDE HERE!
OBAMA SO HIGH IN THE POLLS HE CAN SEE JESUS FROM UP There!
The Clinton campaign has a way of playing games with history. Both Clintons have given President Johnson credit for signing the 1964 Civil Rights Act, to dispute the relationship between accomplishments and inspirational speakers. What they failed to mention was that the same Civil Rights Act was actually introduced by President Kennedy in 1963 after he was inspired by the leadership of Martin Luther King Jr., Fred Shuttlesworth and others here in Birmingham. It was President Kennedy's exceptional leadership qualities that allowed him to take what was, at time, a bold initiative. Barack Obama has those same leadership qualities. He can as others can not.
Fired Up!
Here's a post by Grassroots Mom on how she made an informed decision to vote for Obama, by studying what the candidates accomplished in the Senate last year.
I Refuse to Buy into the Obama Hype (now a supporter)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
Liberal, not liberal, who cars!! Most important is experience or not experienced!  This world is too fragile with too much anti-american sentiment. You cannot trust an inexperienced person such as Obama to handle foreign affairs. We are already starting to lose our strongest allie against Terrorism, Britian, because of the possibility of Obama getting nominated.  He might help the economy, might help healthcare, but his foreign policy inexperience is going to fuel the Islamic extremists to attack us again with even more force than 9/11. The war on Terrorism and victory in Iraq needs to be put back on the front burner or America is going to be more vulnerable then ever.  
All you fools who have drunk the kool-aid will now be gladly handing the presidency to McCain.  Thanks to you all.
Playing Latinos and African-Americans against each other, a scheme where every one looses, is part of the cynical politics of the past, which Barack Obama has come forward to replace.
Why should I vote for Obama?



Sirs: It is not enough for me to see Obama on stage with his millions of adoring fans I want to know what he has done on the following so that myself and others should know why we should vote for him:



1. What has he accomplished in aide for farmers in the states of Illinois and Kentucky?



2. What if any is his stance on the elderly?



3. What have been his major accomplishments in the senate when it is reported he “took a walk” 134 times for major votes?



4. What is his belief on the welfare programs?



5. What are his credentials for Commander in Chief and what is his experience in foreign policy?



6. Where does he stand on the sex offender reform in regards to letting non violent offenders has a second chance in life?



7. What are his plans for the major unrest in Iraq when the troops are pulled out? What type of assistance does he foresee for the people left behind?



8. Please be specific as to what is the “Change” he is telling everyone he will bring about as I can find nothing specific as to what it is.  



9. In his plan to “meet with our enemies”  what specifically does he plan to do and how does he plan to accomplish this?



10. What are his views on Medicare, social security?



11. How does he plan to turn around the economy?  His plans seems to do nothing but raise taxes up sky high.



12. In his flip flop answers he ahs stated he does not have a universal health care plan and then when he went to Texas he all of a sudden does have a universal health care plan so is his health care plan universal or isn’t it?  His answers to this are unclear.



13. Specifically what has he done for the people of Illinois as I have heard many black people complain that he has done nothing for them at all.







14. What plans does he have to stop out sourcing our companies?  It was reported in Youngstown that he came and gave empty words, did nothing to stop the our sourcing of jobs from Maytag and left the people full of false hope.  Does he have any kind of record that stops out sourcing of jobs from anything he has done previously?



15. He stated in his debate with Senator Clinton that our troops have no guns, no ammo and had to get weapons from downed Taliban fighters to fight the war, what would he do about situations like this?  Would he be willing to go out there and check on this report?  What has he done for the soldiers to date, what is his record with them or bills and legislation he has drafted and passed to assist them?



16. Why is refusing to give the people of Florida and Michigan their delegates?  Are we not 50 states and not 48?  Does he feel it is right to leave out 2 million voters?  Why is he against letting their votes stand and be heard?



17. What actually is his patriotic belief when it is reported that he salutes the flag sometimes?  As commander in Chief would he carry on this tradition with our troops and salute the flag when he feels like it?



18. What does he believe about the deficit?  What are his plans for reduction of it? About turning around the economy?



19. Where does he stand on children’s education?



20. What is his stand on international trade and specifically the Mexican trade?





These are just a few of the questions but over debate after debate he has never specifically addressed any of them.  He always says what Clinton says, ok so where does HE stand?

Sincerely

JoAnne
Obama, will have to deliver one day, and hpoe and change has nothing to do with knowledge.
"And ya know what? Well they make fun of you all too by the way,” Obama said. “They make fun of you guys. They say, ‘All these people who are following Obama they're delusional. They just like pretty words, they don't really understand what's going on.’ Lets get real.”

We aren't making "fun", we are dead serious when we say they are delusional.
Obama, give it up already!!
I absolutely *love* how Obama can square up to his opponents and confront their lies and distortions, as in this article. Adjectives like "liberal" and "secular" have been turned into pejoratives, and it's great to see Obama reject that and embrace ideas, rather than labels. Same with the lapel pin flag dust-up... the unhelpful distraction is to focus on the symbol; Obama focuses on the thing symbolized. Yay, Barack!
1. I have read in which several posters pretended to be fact checking. They tell you to "check your fact" but they themselves do not include their sources. Be careful folks because these people may be utilizing propaganda (see "Leigh" (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 at 3:09) for illustration; notice this comment poster FALSEY claims that Muslim Americans are helping fund Obama's campaign, while asking readers to do fact chcking)
2. If you truly care to get candidates' legislative records, please go to thomas.loc.gov or www.votesmart.org (enter your candidate's name). PLEASE BE MINDFUL of propaganda on the web; so when you see a supporter of a particular candidate posting his/her candidate's legislative and other records WITHOUT the source(s) or including the other candidate's record(s), this is BIAS (see "Laura," Sammamish WA (Sent Friday, February 22, 2008 at 3:22 PM); notice the record is posted in a manner consistent with biased reporting). What you get is a record that is either distorted or certain portions are OMITTED to incite voter feelings/perceptions. DO NOT TRUST THESE PEOPLE AS RELIABLE SOURCES.
3. If you are unsure whether the information you read from various posters is true in the absence of sources, do a "reality check" by Googling at www.google.com or, more appropriately, visit www.snopes.com, www.factcheck.org, r www.mediamatters.org. If you trust the comments of others with no sources to back up their claims, YOU ARE BLINDLY ACCEPTING THEIR PROPAGANDA, and this will do disgrace to America and only helps promote IGNORANCE and INTOLERANCE.
4. I urge voters to refuse BIAS, IGNORANCE, and HATRED to influence and intimidate them into choosing a particular candidate. Follow your heart, not the mind of a zealot. Logic always prevails over incited emotions.
Now let me clarify several common misconceptions about either Hillary or Obama I am hearing on First Read and other blogs:
1. The implication that Obama said Latinos have "taken away African Americans' jobs" is FALSE (Hillary is the one who implied that Latinos/immigrants took African Americans jobs away). The transcript of the Los Angels debate can be found at http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2008/02/transcript_of_d.html .
2. It is difficult to comprehend why people continue to argue Obama is inexperienced in comparison to Hillary. I am labeling this "propaganda". Look at Hillary's "35 years of experience" claim at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18391632 to give yourself a look at her "35 years experience". In reality, Hillary only has 7 years of experience in public office (the argument that her 15 years as a corporate lawyer and First Lady title in Arkansas and as former president Bill Clinton's wife should count is absurd).
To look at Obama's record in elective office, go to http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=9490 . Notice that he has a total of 12 years in public office (in Illinios as a state senator and as a U.S. Senator). NOTE: You can enter Hillary's (or John McCain's) name at that same site and click on "Biographical" link.
3. I cannot fathom why people continue to spread malacious lies regarding Obama's background (that he is "Muslim"or a "fraud") other than to say that such people leveling these allegations are clearly bigoted and are attempting to play the politics of fear as part of their propaganda campaign.
For a list of debunked/false allegations against Sen. Barack Obama, visit http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp or http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html . You can also go to http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/401/political-smears.html for a background on the anti-Obama smear campaign.
NOTE: You can research on anti-Hillary or anti-McCain rumors, but what you get is far fewer debunked allegations than the serious and hateful accusations against Obama.
4. On health care, I have previously stated that neither Oama's nor Hillary's plans will cover EVERYONE but attempt to significantly improve our health care system. Please give yourself a look on this issue at http://www.factcheck.org/clinton_vs_obama.html . Also, read the following article http://www.newsweek.com/id/111811 .

To fellow readers:
Please do not claim to be checking your facts! Please wise up and help educate our generation and the generations to come. To create a truly democratic and united, not divided, world, please HELP CONQUER IGNORANCE, ILLITERACY, AND PREJUDICE. If we truly love our country and believe in our abilities to create a harmonious and compassionate United States and a global community of peoples of all cultures coexisting peacefully, we have to stop spreading ignorance and hatred.

To bigots:
Turn off your propaganda machine! Take your hopeless messages of bigotry and intolerance elsewhere and leave MSNBC ALONE! Unless you cannot cease spreading false, vicious rumors or promoting a culture of ignorance and injustice, you may want to form your own forum or join the Nationalist/Nazi Movement. I am sure your cause(s) will only be taken up by insane and heartless individuals with no confidence in themselves and their country(ies).
Since when did the term "liberal" become a four letter word?
Electing Obama will be the most profound positive feeling for the Earth since landing men on the moon. Oh, to be proud of our president, for the first time in too many moons.
Since when was 'liberal' a bad word? It certainly need not be defended.
Um,George Bush is anything but conservative. Please stop playing this game and bring truth and accuracy to your profession. Your opening paragraph suggests you might be better suited to writing for Hollywood, or perhaps all of this IS made up.
For the last year or so I've been an Edwards supporter, but I gotta admit it:  Obama is speaking loudly and clearly about issues that mean something.  I am officially switching gears and going with Obama. Let's give him a real mandate for change, and vote in significant majorities in the House and Senate. GOBAMA 2008!
HOPE = High on Populist Entitlements
Liberal is no good, when you make big
government, when you spoil the lazy
ones by just keep giving, by having
no judgements for public workers,
by not controlling medicaid......
Since when did campaign posters = personality cult? Every candidate has posters with their face on them.
a campaign needs three things: message, strategy and execution--I left out money because if you have message, strategy and execution the money will come.  That's why Sen. Obama and his team have so far outstripped the Clintons, despite Sen. Clinton starting this campaign on the fifty yard line while Obama wasn't even in the stadium.  Win, lose or draw, Sen. Obama's campaign will be one for the textbooks.
I think it is ridiculous the way that people throw around the word liberal like it is an insult or an indicator of a soft person with little back bone and less brains.

The word liberal is defined as a person who is a reformer or progressive.  What else could we possibly want or need in this country at this time???

Keep it up Obama!  You are talking for the silent majority as well as the not so silent liberals.  My parents are life long republicans and have become independant in the last 2 elections.  Now they are voting dempcratic!
"I'm a Black guy named Barack Obama running for Pr president, you can't tell me I ain't tough,
shoot"
"we should never negotiate out of fear, but we
should never fear to negotiate"

I really feel this man is on the right track. Ch
ange and hope are the stuff dreams are made of
but we've been living through 7years of Bush-mare
s. Bring home the troops, take care of our healthcare issues and shut down the special interest groups
. For the people, by the people. That's where were headed with Barack Obama for President.
I think it is ridiculous the way that people throw around the word liberal like it is an insult or an indicator of a soft person with little back bone and less brains.

The word liberal is defined as a person who is a reformer or progressive.  What else could we possibly want or need in this country at this time???

Keep it up Obama!  You are talking for the silent majority as well as the not so silent liberals.  My parents are life long republicans and have become independant in the last 2 elections.  Now they are voting dempcratic!
McCain's wagon might be losing a few wheels lately. I really want Hillary Clinton to 'bow out' so we can start going 'full out' against the neocon party. As a Dem, the infighting is a distraction. I(Dems) am 'itching' to take on John McBush after this Dem thing is wrapped up(sooner rather than later).
HOPE = Handing Out Populist Entitlements
See web definitions for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:liberal&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title"> liberal</a>, especially "(1) Used by Mises "in the sense attached to it everywhere in the nineteenth century and still today in the countries of continental Europe. ..."

Likely the American Continental Army during the Revolution were liberals in the European continental sense wanting to rid themselves of a king. British liberals had previously tried this but wound up with a Lord Protector in Cromwell. Conservatives at that time were known as Tories.

The GOP under Lincoln likely were liberals since they were abolitionists. Confederates [before Southern Democrats, now southern Republicans] were conservatives during that time.
O Bomb-a, Liberal is communist by another name, Government Health Care is communist. O Bomb-a represents nothing in regards to freedom, liberty and justice. The foolish who support him, are supporting the very ones who will have their heads! O Bomb-a, Hell-ery and McCain each represent the end of freedom, liberty and justice and the America.
FIRST!
Being a conservative these days isn't a compliment either if you use Bush, Cheney, Bill Kristol or any of the other idealogues that have been dead wrong on oh-so-many issues.    The demonizing that originates from right-wing radio trickles through to the moderate republicans echoing all the way down the line.   Let's talk about issues, not labels.
it a shamefull act of your people that show bias against sen mccain and hillary itis beyond dignity and fairness,i stop watching you because your reporters almost all of them a bunch of liers and not atrue reporters.shame of you.
eli
"CHANGE" IS A POLITICAL SLOGAN.
"HOPE" IS ANOTHER POLITICAL SLOGAN FOR THE HOPELESS.
"DREAM" IS A WORD FROM ANOTHER CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER-MLK-BACK IN 60'S WITH LBJ PRESIDENT.IT TOOK LBJ TO MAKE THE DREAM REALITY.
AS AN INDEPENDENT VOTER I"LL VOTE AGAIN REPUBLICAN.I DIDN'T WANT TO THIS TIME,BUT I DON'T HAVE A REAL CHOICE.THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES DO NOT INSPIRE ME.
I just recently changed my registration to Democrat so to be able to vote for Barak here in Pa. in April. I am a 68year old white male.  I and my wife donated to the Obama campaign.  This is only my second donation to a political campaign in my life.  Yes We Can!!!!!!!
I do not want mandatory health care.  I think the quality of coverage from both doctors and clinics and hospitals will suffer.  I would rather the government control the prices so I can chose and pay.  If you can't afford health insurance at a reduced rate then, it should be provided--that's why I support Obama.  Besides the Clinton plan will never be approved by enough Republicans--like Obama said you have to have a plan that can make it into law; not just sound good.  Remember, she tried it before when the Republicans said no, she never tried again.  Besided, she doesn't have health care for the citizens of New York.  He has it for the citizens of Illinois.
HOPE! we out it we are not a nation. We are American first than we are Black, Caucasian, or any ethnic group or religion second.
We should be American black or white or American African or Mexican.
we should not be African American, nor Black American, but American black.
Iam Proud to be first generation American Haitian.
HOPE! we out it we are not a nation. We are American first than we are Black, Caucasian, or any ethnic group or religion second.
We should be American black or white or American African or Mexican.
we should not be African American, nor Black American, but American black.
I am Proud to be first generation American Haitian.
I don't think the label "most liberal" means anything.  The Republicans, though no longer technically the majority party, still seem to control the agenda and what gets passed.  If the Democrats get something through over their objections, the President (who never vetoed anything in his first term) is quick to veto it.  So how can anyone be "too liberal" in that environment?

I love the line about I'm a black guy named Barack Obama running for President. You can't tell me I ain't tough.  Go, Barack, go!
I think Obama is lassoed to the policies of John Kerry and Ted Kennedy to mention two.  I also think he is lassoed to the tenets of the Trinity United Church of Christ.  I was appalled to find out that he is sponsoring legislation, the Global Poverty Act that would mandate $845 billion over 13 years to countries were people make less than $1.00 per day.  Folks that .7% of our GDP.  Wonder what countries that would include?  Where will the money come from???
Precisely which "conservative" president from Texas is this article referring to? Surely not GWB. An out of control deficit, environmentally destructive policies and a fear/testosterone addled foreign policy are NOT the hallmarks of a conservative. Once more, the term "liberal" is to be admired, not vilified. After all it has been liberal policies that have made this nation the greatest in history. If anyone believes that a gigantic army, or great wealth made it so, you have not learned the lessons of history. Policies such as the New Deal (created the middle class), social security, medicare/medicaid, publicly funded education, clean air/water regulations are a short list of what set this country apart from others in history with great wealth and armed forces. Heck, if the conservatives had there way, we would not have fought the Revolutionary War (they wanted to stay loyal Brits). Starting with Reagan, so-called conservatives have converted this country from the leading importer of raw materials/exporter of finished goods and the leading creditor nation into the leading debtor nation. Thanks for nothing.
I am obama.....

Tell me what you want to listen?

100% satisfaction!
Obama's parallels of himself to JFK are a bit much. After all, JFK was a hawk on foreign policy who stood down Castro and Kruschev during the Cuban missile crisis (a naval blockade that included a young John McCain, by the way). JFK didn't prevail in that conflict by setting a timetable for withdrawal.  And JFK was a tax-cutter too.  The tax cuts he implemented as president were, as a percentage of the overall economy, actually much larger than the Bush tax cuts of 2002.  One more note: Prior to submitting his candidacy for president to the American people, JFK had served for 12 years in the House and Senate with a long list of accomplishments to show for it, and prior to that had been a decorated war veteran who risked his life for the men under his command.  Perhaps that doesn't take as much character as it does to go to high schools and brag to teenagers about one's youthfull cocaine use; but hey, these are different times we are living in, and the need for "change" appears to be great.

(P.S. Any chance you lefties at 'First Read' are going to let in a negative blurb about your lover-boy Obama any time this election year? Just wondering.)
Since both candidates claim to be ready on day one, I would like to hear exactly what it is that they would do their first day in office. At the debate, it would truly help me make up my mind if the moderator could ask them what they would say in the first five minutes of a meeting with Raul Castro (Obama), or what specifically they would do on their first day in office.
Barack Obama is an man very much grounded in reality (skim through his biography if you have any doubt), yet has an appeal that connects with the very best in each of us and power to galvanize to take action for a better tomorrow. For me that is great leadership.

For starters, look at the way he has run the campaign from the decidely POSITIVE DEBATES to his highly SUCCESSFUL FUNDRAISING strategies through grass roots ORGANIZATION BUILDING to PRUDENT SPENDING OF CAMPAIGN CASH to creating a groundswell of interest among a large number of voters who would otherwise be sitting in sidelines. And all this, from a man starting from nowhere and being a complete underdog.  

Hillary is finally coming to terms with Barack's integrity, judgement, influence that is working across voting blocks, and most importantly his basic approach to solving complex problems.

The three most important issues that are of great interest to me are: Education, Healthare, and International relations. In each of these areas, Obama has fresh approaches that are far more likely to succeed:

- Barack's health care plans to address the root cause of current health care, which is to improve affordability.

- On education, teachers are most important partners in turning a highly educated and competive work-force of the 21st century. Obama's plan calls for rewarding teacher accomplishments.

- On War and peace, he is bold to explore smarter ways to engage troubled nations like Cuba and Iran through active, direct engagement and some humility.


Hillary is intelligent and knows her graceful exit and supporting a stronger candidate will do more good to the party.  She can be a strong running mate and if that doesnt' work can be good policy advisor for Healthcare in Obama administration.

McCain has absolutely nothing new to offer and will be a piece of cake come November.

Anybody who doesn't understand by now this guy is the Real Deal is just clueless.
SLIGHT REVISION!!

Precisely which "conservative" president from Texas is this article referring to? Surely not GWB. An out of control deficit, environmentally destructive policies and a fear/testosterone addled foreign policy are NOT the hallmarks of a conservative. Once more, the term "liberal" is to be admired, not vilified. After all it has been liberal policies that have made this nation the greatest in history. If anyone believes that a gigantic army, or great wealth made it so, you have not learned the lessons of history. Policies such as the New Deal (created the middle class), social security, medicare/medicaid, publicly funded education, clean air/water regulations are a short list of what set this country apart from others in history with great wealth and armed forces. Heck, if the conservatives had there way, we would not have fought the Revolutionary War (they wanted to stay loyal Brits). Starting with Reagan, so-called conservatives have converted this country from the leading importer of raw materials/exporter of finished goods to just opposite. And they also switched the US from the leading creditor nation into the leading debtor nation. Thanks for nothing.


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