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Clinton's 'red phone moment'?

Posted: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:32 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
In a conference call with reporters, the Obama campaign pushed back against Clinton's newest ad. The ad, running in Texas, shows children sleeping and an announcer says, "It's 3 a.m., and your children are safe and asleep. Who do you want answering the phone?"

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said, "She had her red-phone moment; she had it in 2002," when she and President Bush voted for the war.

The red phone reference is to an ad run by Walter Mondale in the Democratic primary against Gary Hart.

"We don't think the ad's going to be effective at all," Plouffe also said, continuing, "she's already had her red-phone moment… she answered affirmatively" on her vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq. "She did not read the NIE, so she did not do her homework either."

When asked repeatedly about the ad on the call, Plouffe focused on "judgment."

"Sen. Clinton's red-phone moment in her career was in 2002," he said again. "And she supported the Iraq war, supported president Bush. ... Ultimately an ad like this is going to make people focus on judgment."

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100% correct.  

Clinton's phone rang back in 2002.

She voted to go to war.

She got it very wrong.
Hillary's ad will just remind us again, as if we need reminding, that we were sent wrongfully into Iraq, costing thousands of US lives, while the real battle was in Afghanistan with OBL.  Pointing out her own tragically flawed judgment will not sway undecideds.  
It's 3AM in the morning......does Hillary Clinton know where her husband Bill is and what he is doing? That would be a major distraction and another reason why we don't need a return Clinton engagement in the White House. Old is old and tired is tired and Hillary fits into both categories.

Zach
I think Hillary shot herself in the foot on this one.

She has practically convinced the American people that she is a complainer. I think more people are realizing that she has exercised extremely poor judgement not only regarding Iraq but also regarding her campaign. Hillay in the White House is increasing becoming a disturbing idea.

She is better off as Vice President.

Obama-Clinton, '08
THEN OBAMA HAD A SPINELESS MOMENT WHEN HE VOTED TO FUND WHAT HE IS AGAINST ,OTHER DEMOCRATS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT VOTED THIER PRINCIPLES.  WHY NOT THE ONE THE ONLY THE ALL TIME SHAPE SHIFTER OBAMMA,BY THE WAY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS TO BLAME ALONG WITH THE REPUBS CANT TAKE THE TRUTH DEMORAT>
Hillary Clinton is unquestionably the most qualified candidate in the race.

If the "red phone" rings I trust Hillary to be there to answer it and do the right thing. Her knowledge and experience of domestic and international issues are second to none. She is a most impressive candidate. The Dems are very fortunate to have her. If Hillary were not the Dem nominee, I would vote for McCain because I don't trust Obama. Obama is not qualified to be President.

The U.S. and the world can't wait for the Presidency of Hillary Clinton to begin.

V O T E    S M A R T  !     V O T E    H I L L A R Y !
Hillary Clinton, you didn't stand up to George Bush and Dick Cheney. We saw no leadership back then from you. None.

There was ample evidence available that Iraq had no WMD's. You didn't take the time to investigate. That's not leadership.

Bill Clinton, I know Senator Clinton saw first hand what happened in NYC on September 11th. That does not change the fact that she stood behind Bush and Cheney. Why do you think this Administration is so unpopular? It's because we were lied to.

We are used to our presidents lying. That's why we have a Congress.

She didn't do her job. Neither did John McCain.

No leadership whatsoever when it mattered most.
Another Smackdown from the Barack campaign.His campaign has shown time & again that Nothing will go Unanswered.

Hillary Clinton, you didn't stand up to George Bush and Dick Cheney. We saw no leadership back then from you. None.

There was ample evidence available that Iraq had no WMD's. You didn't take the time to investigate. That's not leadership.

Bill Clinton, I know Senator Clinton saw first hand what happened in NYC on September 11th. That does not change the fact that she stood behind Bush and Cheney. Why do you think this Administration is so unpopular? It's because we were lied to.

We are used to our presidents lying. That's why we have a Congress.

She didn't do her job. Neither did John McCain.

No leadership whatsoever when it mattered most.
If that phone is sitting on the Vice-President's desk, then of course Clinton should be answering it.
Why the heck is she in a suit at 3 am? Is she suggesting she'll not only be ready on Day 1 but awake 24/7 and doesn't wear pjs? For goodness sake, it's such a silly ad--can't they do any better than copying not only a retired 80's ad from Mondale, but also a SNL skit?
Kenn, please take off your caps, i'd rather read you in all lower case, no need to e-shout at us!
Kenn:
Shouting at us doesn't make it any less true that Hillary blew it when it came to her vote to authorize the war with Iraq.

And as a military spouse, I am thankful for anyone who funded the war once the tragic decision was made to go in.  The argument regarding funding the war is a ridiculous one.  Once we are there, do you suggest that we punish the troops by not arming or protecting them properly?  Perhaps if you had a family member in Iraq you would see the stupidity of this argument.
The era of scare mongering tactics for votes is over!
I want the phone to be answered by the American people through an inherently kind and intelligent leader willing to listen, then maybe there won't need to be many 3 a.m. calls. Obama '08
As a Clinton supporter, I must state that the ad speaks the truth. Obama is ill-prepared for the presidency. He was only introduced to America at the last Dem. convention---when he was a state legislator.

Obama can give a speech and has a husky voice (from years of smoking). But, he's not ready for the presidency.

I' a life-long lunch bucket Democrat with 6 kids under my roof---If Hill doesn't get the nod, I'm voting for McCain.
THEN OBAMA HAD A SPINELESS MOMENT WHEN HE VOTED TO FUND WHAT HE IS AGAINST ,OTHER DEMOCRATS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT VOTED THIER PRINCIPLES.  WHY NOT THE ONE THE ONLY THE ALL TIME SHAPE SHIFTER OBAMMA,BY THE WAY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS TO BLAME ALONG WITH THE REPUBS CANT TAKE THE TRUTH DEMORAT>

kenn (Sent Friday, February 29, 2008 11:02 AM)

kenn,

We can't pull the Bush/Clinton/McCain bus out of the ditch without money.
Hillary is using fear as a tactic.  What a desparate move.  We've seen Bush use this for 7 years and it will not work.  P.S. Mondale Lost!
That 3 am phone call must be Bill needing a ride home.Why else would she wait till the 6th ring to answer?
Hey Dirk, I hope with six kids you will reconsider voting for McCain if Hillary doesn't get the nomination. Your kids and mine will surely be involved in a military draft by then, and since you describe yourself as a "lunch bucket dem" you may not have all your kids in a financial position to get an exemption....just a thought!
Hillary blew her "red phone" moment, as so many of you have said in 2002. It rang again on the Iran resolution, and she blew it once more. At this point I wouldn't trust Hillary to take a message.

Another "Hussein" for Obama!
Rick Hussein, KY, sorry that I have to say this, but your comment about the phone call made me laugh out loud!! (I TRY to be objective about ol'Bill...)
Fear mongering... just like the republicans!
She's a desparate woman.
Obama 08!
The red phone may ring but she won't have read any of the briefings prior to the phone call. She leaves that for her aides to do. She'll also make the wrong decision if its more politically expedient.
Rick, Ky...thanks for the laugh.  Your 6th ring comment is the best so far on her ridiculous ad.
Kenn,
There is no need to e-shout to make a point, dont you know that shouting verbally or by email is indicative of losing the argument?.   Slow down, maybe then you will be able to write a coherent note.

Sharon is correct, your argument is stupid.  I was against going there, but I cant see leaving the poor buggars without the proper equipment to protect themselves and to do a good job  which they have.
Wow....we Democrats have been decrying the GOP for running ads based entirely on "FEAR"....any see the latest ad for getting the House of Reps to vote to fund illegal wiretapping and immunity for telecoms???

Now Hillary has decided that Barack Obama will be more likely to let our children be killed!!!

Man, she has really sunk to a new low.
Nothing I have seen from Hillary since Barack started his rise has made me re-consider supporting her. She could have demonstrated positive self confidence, instead she engages in fear mongering. I'm glad now I stood in the snow for an hour, then sat in an overcrowded gym for four more in order to cast my vote for Obama. I made the right choice to vote for him in the caucus. Hillary, you disappointed me.
To paraphrase something said recently; “shame on you Hillary Clinton!!”  Playing the fear card is straight out of the Republican play book and it won’t work this year.  Her campaign is becoming an embarrassment to the Democratic Party.  Texas and Ohio voters, please end the pain.
And if the caller on the other end can't do what she wants......then she'll weep.
John, if Clinton is such an impressive candidate why isn't she doing better? I'm certain that her campaigning knowledge and experience are also second to none, yet her strategic, financial and staffing decisions have not been all that great and have put her is a pretty vulnerable position, wouldn't you say?

She is not exactly an original thinker either, as we see by the revamped add from about 25 years ago that pretty much plays on peoples fears just like, Oh I don't know....the Republicans? I just don't see an argument, so far, that convinces me she would make a very good president at all. Personally, I wouldn't want her anywhere near the "red phone".
People, get over the fact that she voted for the war. So did most other Senators.  Point is...we're there in Iraq and she's the most knowledgeable and determined to get us OUT!  THAT is what we need to focus on.  She voted to go in to Iraq based on the information she was given at that time. Obama's guess was a lucky one...not a good judgment call.
Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said, "She had her red-phone moment; she had it in 2002," when she and President Bush voted for the war.
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So we're back to this argument. You know Obama-ites, every leader, every executive, and every president does things that they may regret later. Now I'm certain Obama will never have this problem because he does have God like qualities, but just by chance he does, he better be ready for the ***t storm coming his way if he ever manages to be in charge of something important.
I think it's great. Goooooooooo HILLARY. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is and IDOIT. Talk is cheap and that is what he is. Go check his record in CHICAGO' Bunch of BULL S., reminds me of George Bushs BULL S. and every body believed him to.
Hillary Clinton represents the people of New York who were attacked on 911.
Back in 2002, we had the President of The United States going around the country telling us we were about to be attacked by Iraq in 45 minutes. The hairs on the back of our necks were still standing up in response to the death and devistation of 911.
It's interesting to note that the G.O.P. ran it's entire off-year-election campaign on the premise that we would wage war against Saddam Huessein in Iraq. Then, aprox. 3 weeks after the vote to authorize force was taken and passed, the Republicans took back the Senate, and won an even larger majority in The House of Representatives than it already had.
So, (and for as much as people say they don't approve of the war now) SOMEBODY approved of it then, and showed that approval by rewarding the Republicans with a big win.
Now, here comes "Pimp Daddy B" telling us he's been against the war from the start.
Okay, let's examine that for a minute.
First off, Obama wasn't in the Senate in 2002, and didn't have the same responsibility that Hillary did. Let's get that straight, right up front.
Secondly, if he was against the war from the start, then why did he repeatedly vote to continue funding it?
That's the part I don't understand.
I'm not necessarily willing to listen to the exacuse that he was "supporting the troops." Because these were supplemental spending measures restricted soley to the War in Iraq itself. He could have shown his support for the troops by voting in favor of other regularly scheduled D.O.D. spending bills.
Furthermore, I don't buy into his thesis that the mistake was already made, therefore it was okay to throw money at it.
If it was a mistake to be in Iraq, then he should have voted "nay" for any new spending measures, and he should have encouraged others to do the same thing.
But, once again, he did not. Therefore he can't claim moral high ground on this issue, and I don't know why Hillary's campaign allows him to get away with this time after time.
All she has to say is that, in the wake of 911, it may well have been a mistake to authorize force in Iraq. But, if a mistake had to be made, it's better to make it in favor of securing the people you represent.
If the truth be known, Obama is too inexperienced, and too green to be commander in chief of our military, and I really wouldn't trust him in that capacity.
Hillary is a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and she was in a position of responsibility as a U.S. Senator when 911 happened.
Whether Pimp Daddy acknowledges it or not, that experience was thrust upon her, it's not something she necessarily wanted nor asked for.
At the end of the day, people have to believe their commander in chief would act in the best interests of national defense if our country was threatened or if The U.S. felt that it's offshore ineterest or allies were in danger.
Barack Obama DOES NOT give me that feeling.

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT 2008
WHETHER YOU LIKE TO ADMIT IT OR NOT, EXPERIENCE DOES COUNT
is Hillary running this ad, or George W. Bush????

good job...SCARE me into voting for you...

to answer the question, I'd want OBAMA to answer!!!!
This is a tough one.... on one hand, I have a candidate that didn't take the time to read the report before sending our people into harms way, but instead, relied on the cliffnotes. and on the other hand, someone spoke out about it with the most insite that I've seen/heard to date...... if the phone rings and Hillary answers it..... wrong number!!
People...Obama WAS NOT in the senate for the war vote.  He would have voted to support the pres. in a time of national crisis. Guaranteed!  
Wake up children!
John: '...Hillary Clinton is unquestionably the most qualified candidate in the race...'


Obama is 'INEVITABLE'

Barack Obama WILL BE your NEXT PRESIDENT

Obama is 'INEVITABLE'

hey hillary,,how was that red phone moment when you voted for Iraq?  that red phone moment any better on Nafta?  did you have a good red phone moment when bush wanted you to vote for war in Iran?  
Politics of fear.

Or is the politics of desperation?
So why didn't someone on the Clinton Team answer the darn phone during the commercial? It would make you think the hypothetical Clinton administration was asleep at the wheel. Hillary, you are looking “silly season” for using our kids to spread fear. Did you use campaign money for your ill advised commercial? The Obama Team will jump all over your stupid commercial with, President Obama’s administration immediately answering the phone and getting the job done. Senator Clinton you have used poor judgment in your stupid commercial and will use it again, I'm sure as Commander-in-Chief and President. Be very, very quiet, Hillary Clinton is hunting for idiots to elect her to a position requiring sound judgment. GO Obama 08!
"...100% correct.  
Clinton's phone rang back in 2002.
She voted to go to war.
She got it very wrong. ..."
Ron, TX (Sent Friday, February 29, 2008 10:58 AM)

Ron, I'm curious to know how you are qualified to make that statement. (?)
You come from Texas, which wasn't attacked on 911.
Aliken to Pimp Daddy B, you have no responsibility to any constituency looking for protection after such a terrible act.
Hillary represents the people who died on 911, their friends and their families. She had a responsibility to them that Obama didn't.
It may well have been a mistake to go into Iraq.
But, securing the people you represent is a "mistake" that every politician SHOULD make, everytime.

whats great is you are all ok with the war as long as they are there ,sounds backwards wasnt the whole election about taking them out and forcing the republicans hand by not funding them WHAT about the other democrats CHRIS DODD a big supporter of OBAMA is he against the troops because he voted his principles Im saying OBAMA made a criticl mistake voting for the war to continue and saying he had too .The bill would have passed without him and with more SENATORS like DODD maybe the dems could have done what they lied about and said they would do END THE WAR not slow it down.  What are you aruing for war or no war or little war or just arguing for the sake of politics, GET THEM OUT OR PUT THEM IN BUT DONT LEAVE THEM SIT THERE.dems and repubs are both resonsible for the war and the continuation how can both even argue the point.OBAMA should have run as an INDEPENDANT if he wanted to get away from the resposibilty for this war by being a member and VOTINGalong with the democratic party.TRUTH HURTS HUH
John, I totaly agree with you.  Hillary is not doing better because of stations like MSNBC drooling over Obama to show that they aren't biggots.  Hillary would have won by a landslide if the biased media backed her or simply didn't spin everything she did to be negative.  I too will vote for McCain against Obama.  Ny voice was not heard here in Florida, but it will in November.  A ton of Hillary supporters I know here and in NY are also going to vote McCain.  I hope the media is happy.  We will have another Republican for 4 years.  At least McCain is more towards the middle.
In the state senate, on more than 4,000 votes, Obama voted "present"
Obama even voted "present" on a bill involving sexual abuse that he had sponsored himself - saying he discovered legal questions after its introduction.
he has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan since JANUARY 2007, and he agrees that Al qaeda is there.

And no OBAMa didn't have the red phone moment. He wasn't even in the senate and had no acess to any intelligence.. He just gave an ideological speeach. THAT"S ALL...Kennedy and Kerry who support Obama now, voted for the war...

So people, don't be so biased that you miss your red phone moment.. MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR AMERICA!!!!
*** UPDATE *** NBC's Andrea Mitchell notes that Obama responded on camera to Clinton's ad. "We've seen these ads before, trying to play on people's fears, trying to scare up votes," Obama said. "But I don't think they'll work this time. The question is not about who will be picking up the phone. The question is what kind of judgment will you exercise when you answer the phone.

"We've had a red-phone moment. It was the decision to invade Iraq. Senator Clinton gave the wrong answer. George Bush gave the wrong answer. John McCain gave the wrong answer."

*** UPDATE *** NBC's Andrea Mitchell notes that Obama responded on camera to Clinton's ad. "We've seen these ads before, trying to play on people's fears, trying to scare up votes," Obama said. "But I don't think they'll work this time. The question is not about who will be picking up the phone. The question is what kind of judgment will you exercise when you answer the phone.

"We've had a red-phone moment. It was the decision to invade Iraq. Senator Clinton gave the wrong answer. George Bush gave the wrong answer. John McCain gave the wrong answer."

Obama will lose in Nov. If Hillary doesnt get nominated, the red phone should be in McCain's hand. He is experienced and a moderate guy who has worked with Democrats a lot and also voted for stems cell research, comprehensive immigration, etc.


And Marbw and Kim from Pasedena is fear mongering for unity by talking about Supreme Court judges. LOL where did the politics of hope and no fear go? Vanished when not needed?


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