The battle for PA has begun?

Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:15 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton

From NBC's Mark Murray
The Clinton campaign has announced that Chelsea will stump in Philadelphia tomorrow -- at the University of Pennsylvania.

Folks, the Pennsylvania contest is seven -- yes seven -- weeks from now.

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Mark Murray,
I already said many times: That is because Hillary is a SELF-CENTERED politician who, to ensure she reachs her personal ambitins, do anything to clench the nomination, no matter if it destroys the Democratic Party and gives the GOP a blessing by allowing it to paint the DNC as a corrupt, broken, divided party that cannot control its very divisive candidates.

Ron Hussein Allen (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:21 AM)

I used to respect and watch MSNBC regularly. I used to record every Hardball and Countdown episode on my PVR but I must say I'm appalled by the quality of reporting of late. All the reporters and analysts have Obama tattooed on their foreheads and on their arms.

I can't stand Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann any longer. I never knew the day will come when I will feel more informed watching Fox News but that is how bad it has become with MSNBC.

I can't hold my nose for 10 seconds and watch your coverage of the elections, it's asphyxiating.

Michael (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:24 AM)

Billary would not leave unless she'd be dragged out of the White House. Her Politics of Fear and Smear was successful in terms of winning two or three out of the last 15 contests (...).

Her problem: Even if she'd win, she lost a good part of the democratic base to nobody, Nader or McCain.

McCain was not bad tonight ... I would not feel bad voting for McCain instead of Billary.

Lynn (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:25 AM)

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Where are Hillary's tax returns? Lost among her Rose Law Firm billing records? Obama must press Hillary to release her tax returns --- or he will lose.
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Ed Az (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:26 AM)

Of course the Clinton campaign is going to go straight for Pennsylvania. They don't give a s--t about anything BUT the big states. I wonder if they know that it is all these smaller states that has given Obama his commanding delegate lead.

Mike K, Denver (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:27 AM)

The politics of fear have proven yet again to work. I fear for this country.

JD (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:36 AM)

Howard Finneman is wrong! Hillary did acknowledge Obama in her speech tonight, in a very flattering way too! maybe Howrad was too busy listening to his own voice praising Obama...

Corinne, Oakland, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:37 AM)

Doesn't it tell people anything that the higher educated are opting for Obama??? Duped???

gail hudson, parker, az (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:38 AM)

Can't wait to vote for her in PA! I have tried to post this on CNN but they never approve this message...

Go Hillary

Lisa Pittsburgh, PA (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:39 AM)

Michael, I second your observation about MSNBC coverage. I used to watch Hardball and Countdown every night but have not watched them for a month now due to what you alluded to. I'm glad Hillary is winning again.

Mike, MD (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:39 AM)

I agrre with Michael re. the MSNBC coverage of the elections.. Matthews, Olberman are so enamored with Obama that the spin will always be against Hillary. I have given up watching NBC and its affiliates.

Corinne, Oakland, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:39 AM)

Pennsylvania? Try Denver! Hillary will not concede regardless of the math. She cut a deal with Bill and she held up her end. He'd better make her president or all she'll leave him with is a cigar. She doesn't give two sh*ts about the party or anything else for that matter. I'd wager that she thanks God there are so many stupid working shlubs out there that think Obama is a Muslim (bad) and Bill was responsible for all the good things they've ever known (even if he signed NAFTA into law).

trouble (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:40 AM)

I doubt blacks (I am white) are voting for Obama for the same reason as Hillary. They udnerstand history, and the "fairy tale" is a code for racists in the 1960's, if you will. I have read in which many blacks doubted Obama's candidacy and favored Hillary (all of my black male friends voted for Hillary in Iowa, though they know support Obama) until Bill's aggressive race biating become public.
But Ohio's whites are voting for Hillary by listening to her fear mongering and race biating, thus making themselves racists. Blacks don't even want to be accused in history of voting against a multiracial man. But there are also issues like the war and the economy that blacks feel Obama is best positioned to address.
Now, shut up accusing them of racism while overlooking our country's LONG, UGLY history.

Ron Hussein Allen (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:42 AM)

To (hypersensitive) Michael:
Perhaps they're educated enough to spot a shrill lying fraud when they see one.

trouble (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:43 AM)

Wow, some people are only now catching on to the Chris and Keith comedy show.

I have not watched one second of MSNBC today - CNN only.

It was amazing the other day to watch silly Keith go after Clinton after Obama had lied about the NAFTA meeting. Oops and along comes the written memo, more lies from Obama. Silly Keith continues to defend Obama.

No wonder Fox and CNN wacks them in the ratings!

Fred C Dobbs Sierra Madre, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:43 AM)

A message to Obama:

After what’s happened since last week, you’ve got to start playing Billary’s Game. I know you’re not good at being a lowlife, sleezy rotten son-of-a … but you’ve got to put yourself on an even playing field. You don’t have to lie, just tell the truth, that’ll do it.

mike keene, denver,co (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:44 AM)

McCain v Clinton: Dog bites man. Same old, same old.

HRC has thrown her kitchen sink at Obama. Fine. Hope she's happy. Let's brush it off, and get on to the election. Pennsylvania, it's time to take your balls out of your purse if, God forbid, this thing persists on to you in seven weeks.

iowan (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:44 AM)

Michael,
How do you know "all the reporters and analysts" have Obama tatoos?
Have you studied or researched how the media treated Bill Clinton during his presidential campaigns in the 1990's?
For me, the media seems to favor Bill much more than Obama when you compare this year's campaign to that of the 1990's. You need to also note that much of the reporting on Hillary's activities (mostly negative) is not done by MSNBC, but the NY Times that endorsed Hillary.
Quit naggng.

Bull the Dog (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:48 AM)

Change = fear for many people. I think this is why many want Clinton. They know what's in the future with her: MORE OF THE SAME! Look at the voter demographics though. The higher educated are opting for Obama. Could it be that they can see the positive benefits of Obama's offer of change. That they see through Hillary's facade? The fact that Obama attracts this group really ought to tell people something. Power and divisiveness in Washington is Hillary and Bill's thing. If you believe Hillary will follow through on changing the structure in Washington, then I have a bridge to sell you. Get It?

Gail Hudson, Parker, Arizona (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:49 AM)

Dumbama cares nothing outside or his race or self - he has divided our party

Clinton ' 08

Tee (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:49 AM)

What is wrong with us Democrats. We have two great people running, either of which would make a great President and all the parisans are attacking Hillary or Obama like they are Bush. Clinton, Obama and McCain all are politicans that desparately want to be President.

Gerion (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:50 AM)

Schuster:

Will they be 'pimping her out'?

(C'mon, a guy's gotta be able to take a joke)

iowan (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:52 AM)

The clintons are spoiler and they are ready to destroy the democratic party inorder to get their political ambitions. Americans must not forget about how the Clintons subjected this country to turture during the monica Lewinsky Scandal in whitehouse.
The whitehouse is not for the Clintons but for Americans, They cant got back and create another mess they did before.American should learn a hard lesson.

Sun A (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:54 AM)

Are Americans a fearful people? I see the "politics of fear" working in Ohio. It is interesting that for a nation that considers itself a "super power" is too afraid to make a decision that reflects what it is in need - a leader to move it forward in the face of significant global crises. Afraid to give the leader who is supposedly best qualified the chance to lead and at the same time desiring a new direction, America showed its hypocrisy.

Powell, Canada (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:57 AM)

i will vote maccain if Obama is not the nominee!

Sun A Newjerseyan (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:59 AM)

Cool. We will get to see Clinton's tax returns one week before the PA primary. At least if she really follows through with what she said and releases then April 15th. Is anyone taking bets that she will have a reason to refuse to release them? Of course it is just making people wonder more and more what she is hiding. But better to find out now instead of waiting for McCain to use them against her.

S. Ruff (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:01 AM)

We are the chapions,
we are the champions
No time for losers
cause we are the chapions

...of tonight!

say no to Dumbama

Clinton '08

YYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!

Clinton Machine Mechanic (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:01 AM)

It is past time for Barack Obama to stop playing nice and let loose the dogs of war.
Either that or submit, on bended knee to the Bull Connor, David Duke branch of the democratic party that is being run by the Clinton's and the American feminist movement.

PAW, Oakland, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:03 AM)

So the last few days the media had had a knee jerk reaction to get tough on Obama. You do know that they are always harder on the frontrunner.....continuing the race gives them ratings orgasms.

Stacy, Virginia (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:03 AM)

OBama still needs to answer all the questions that the media are afraid to ask him.......

Rezco

Racist all black church who praises Farrakhan

Racist Pastor who praises Farrakhan and gives him award

William Ayers, OBama's terrorist friend

Nafta/Canada lies and flip flop

John Doe (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:03 AM)

Unless she's lying about doing it, Hillary's tax returns will be out on April 15. Which means out before April 22. Fact Checkers...start your engines!

kravitz (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:04 AM)

9 out of 10 black rqcist voters cannot hold us off

clinton '08

scott golden (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:04 AM)

I have been appalled by the blatant attempt of MSNBC and all NBC stations to try to invoke their love affair of Barry on voters. Chills up their leggs, give me a break. I don't watch their stations any longer. The reporters with this blog are the same way, at least I don't have to hear their voice. They all know Hillary by far is the best nominee, but they are after ratings and most of them are republicans. They need to tell the news and not what he needs to do to win. Maybe when this is over Hillary can tell them how she won.

Ruth, GA (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:04 AM)

so sad now that hillary feels she is allowed to smear obama she feels energized. lets all band together and elect the best smear canidate.

mike ca (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:07 AM)

so hard to kill roaches to but that doesnt mean they should be president.

mike ca (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:08 AM)

Gerion,
The issue is that Hillary Clinton, her husband and the DLC have chosen to revert to their Bull Connor, governor Wallace, David Duke roots.
It is time for Barack Obama to stand as a man or to submit as a slave to the democratic party & the modern American feminist movement.
He did not initiate this war, they did.
Either he stands and fights or meekly submits.
I gather you are one of those that believe that all Israel need to do to have peace with the Palestinians and the Arabs is just give a little more.
Same thing here.
Fight for your rights or submit as a slave.
Decide which side you are on because it is civil war now within the democratic party and the gloves are coming off.

PAW, Oakland, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:09 AM)

The democratic party should be ready for a big disappointmentin November if Clinton is the nominee

Sun A New Jerseyan (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:11 AM)

i think the media has done a bit of a turn-a-round on Obama, since being called out for being too soft. they have started actually asking harder hitting questions of him and to him. However it may be too little too late for Clinton.

Harry, Nebraska (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:14 AM)

Fred C Dobbs Sierra Madre, CA:
Where is the veracity in this story that makes you conclude that Obama was party to this or lied about anything? If you weren't so pro-Hillary you might actually consider the facts...
1. Mr. Goolsbee (an economic, not political, advisor)was approached without the knowledge of the campaign and with no actual authority to speak on its behalf.
2. The memo is supposedly written by the Canadians and represents their consul member's interpretation of what was said. The evidence being presented is a copy of a teletype document, NOT a recording of what actually was said. We don't even know if it's real or something doctored for political purposes.
3. This photocopy was leaked, by an organization that famously doesn't leak, to the Associated Press. It was not leaked directly to the Canadian media which is where most Canadian government documents are normally leaked.
4. The Canadian government is controlled by a bunch of neo-conservatives with close ties to the Bush administration and their advisors, past and present, including Karl Rove.
5. The Canadian government (as well as the Bush administration) is terrified of the possibility that the US might consider opting out of NAFTA.
6. Hillary is smart enough to know the evidence is tenuous but she also knows that most people in Ohio aren't going to examine the details so, just as she did when asked if she believed if Obama was a Muslim, she tacitly allowed the truth get lost in the hyperbole for political gain.
Politics as usual.

Ian (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:17 AM)

get ready... it's a foregone conclusion, January 20, 2009 thanks to the divisiveness of the Dems....

...."I, John McCain...do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Beckie (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:20 AM)

Clinton can be nominated if scandal is what is glorified in American politics.

Sun A newjersean (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:20 AM)

I am so thrilled for our country that Hillary has rebounded and will fight Nobama all the way to Denver. We cannot afford handing our country over to this arrogant, inexerienced man who is all talk and no action.

Patty, St. Louis, MO (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:21 AM)

As for what Obama needs to do: He needs to continue to tell people THE TRUTH, something Hillary and her shills are unable to do. None of them could be believed if they come on TV and say the sky is blue.

He needs to hit her on NAFTA, hit her on her fear mongering. Hit her on healthcare. Hit her on her voting record on Iraq and Iran. Hit her on her unimpressive legislative resume in the Senate, even though she has been there longer than he (hint: no one wants to be seen co-sponsoring her legislation, but people are climbing over each other to co-sponsor his).

I think when people take a long, LONG look (7 weeks is a lifetime in politics) at their respective records and their policy ideas, they will see her for what she is: a losing idea for the Democratic party.

Mike K, Denver (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:21 AM)

Who thought of this ridiculous Texas two step? Why do we have to vote and then return at 630pm to sign a paper and be "counted" again? It doesn't matter who wins the popular vote. What truly matters is who is going to fight the crowd, and find a parking place twice. If every voter were to return to the polls at 630pm to make their vote "really count", can you imagine what a zoo that would be?
Tomarrow, March 5th, Texas has a state wide mandated test that all children from 3rd to 12th must pass to be promoted. Mothers were busy getting their kids fed and put to bed early to prepare for the big day. We do not have time to go twice. Who does?

colleen lozano (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:22 AM)

Thank you Texas, Rhode Island and Ohio for saving us from a disaster.

Go Hillary

Patty, St. Louis, MO (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:23 AM)

N(NOTHING)
B(BUT)
C(CRAP)

CAN'T STOP THE CLINTONS, SO JUST SHUT UP AND GET OUT THE WAY!

MAMBA, ST. THOMAS, USVI (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:23 AM)

I love the roaches comment. Another thing I love is that McCain isn't a radical rightwing nut so it won't be bad when he is President. As an Independent who thought I would vote Democratic I am changing my mind. The Democrats are proving too stupid to govern. I mean look at the nominating process, the wishy washy "super-delegates", the less educated voters who believe Hillary Clinton.

Just a thought. If a man was running for President and his wife was caught repeatedly having sexual relations with other men while he not only overlooked it, but demonized the men involved, would he have a chance of being President?

Stacy, Virginia (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:24 AM)

To Barack Hussein Obama's supporters, you all have been asking Hillary Rhodam Clinton to drop out from the race. NOW after March 4 super Tuesday primary, will you ask Barack to drop out? Or you all still asking Hillary to drop out?

Thank you TEXAS, thank you RHODE ISLAND, and thank you OHIO..
I didnt 4get and thank you VERMONT.

Hello Mississippi, you decide next week.
And hello Pensylvania, lets make it another super Tuesday....If you know what I mean...

Maybe by then .. Canadian's NAFTA with Barack's deal and RAZKO's deal will come the truth... no more denial....

Mr. Din, Las Vegas, Nevada (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:25 AM)

GHILLARY ! YOU GOT MY VOTE IN PA. WE ARE NOT STUPID PEOPLE HERE. OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST OF THE WORLD. LOOK AT HIS BACKGROUND AND HE DOESNT CARE OR EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS. HE MYSWELL BE A REPUBLICAN CAUSE ALL HE CARES ABOUR IS HIS HERITAGE AS A HUSSEIN. SAME AS HIS WIFE STATING SHE LOVES AMERICA NOW...THAT SHOWED ME WHAT TRUE CLORS THEY HAVE. DIDNT CARE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEFORE TILL HE THINKS HE IS GOING TO MAKE IT FOR PRESIDENT. IF IT COMES TO OBAMA OR MCCAIN I WILL NOT VOTE. CAUSE NEITHER ONE OF THEM OUR FOR US! OR THE U.S.A GO HILLARY YOU CAN MAKE IT AND YOU WILL MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT AS YOUR HUSBAND DID.

Sherry Johnstown Pa (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:28 AM)

If it wasn't for irrational white soccer moms, who are manipulated by fear tactics and disingenuous tears, this would have been over a long time ago and we could have been on to the real election.

Mark, Chicago, IL (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:31 AM)

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