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The battle for PA has begun?

Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:15 AM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Murray
The Clinton campaign has announced that Chelsea will stump in Philadelphia tomorrow -- at the University of Pennsylvania.

Folks, the Pennsylvania contest is seven -- yes seven -- weeks from now.

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Get real about Hillary throwing in the towel. If she continues to the Convention, it's not going to destroy the Democratic Party. If they cannot sustain each other thru a heated primary (and this goes for either one of them), then they truly don't deserve to represent the Democrats in the general election. We've had more than twenty years to develop heated opinions about Hillary. Only now are we starting to scratch the surface about how effective of a leader would Barack really be. He may be the best candidate to emcee the event, but realistically, can he go the distance of 4 grueling years? If he can't make it thru the primary because liberal democrats want all democrats to continue to fawn over him, how's he going to sustain the conservative republicans when they get their claws into him? This is a question Americans truly need to consider in states that haven't yet voted.
THE SAME HIGHER EDUCATED VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR THE WORSE PRESIDENT IN HISTORY (BUSH) TWICE, ARE THE SAME FOOLS NOW VOTING FOR OBAMA--GET IT!!!!!DAVE ROBERTS
PAW, Oakland, CA;
An interesting perspective. However, that's exactly what the Clinton campaign wants. Make Obama look like he's just another guttersnipe slimeball political animal.
He's got seven weeks before Pennsylvania. He's got to remember what engages his supporters elsewhere and concentrate on that, work the ground game and make Hillary's attacks reflect back on her with a quick but civil response. I would also tackle head-on the issues that gave her Ohio: NAFTA and Rezko. Call her on it when she attacks without proof.
It seems to me all of you who are sitting here bashing either candidate don't really care about truth.  You've made up your minds about who you will vote for and are blind to any evidence that would suggest you've made the wrong decision. All of this in-fighting is going to destroy the Democratic party, that goes for both Obama and Clinton and their supporters.  Of course that's great news for McCain supporters like myself- Go McCain!
It's amazing that some people can be so hateful!  Hillary Clinton should get the nomination because she is the best candidate for the job.

College students are voting for Obama but I would not say it's because they are the smarter or the more educated portion of the electric but rather the most sedated, everyone knows most college students spend a great deal of time parting getting drunk or high.  

"Trouble" ~   "stupid working shlubs", what  gives you the right and makes you so much better than everyone else?  I would rather be a hard working shulbs then a mindless big mouth!

As far as the "Billary" comment, you can't have it both ways.  Obama is constantly reminding us that she was not president and can't use his 8 years in the White House as her record but in the same respect it can't be pulled out and waved around when it's convenient sighting she is more of the same, that is just B.S.   If you want more of the same vote for McCain.

Pennsylvania will be out to vote for Hillary, the air is fresher here and we can see and think clearly as to who is the best person for the job!

HILLARY-08!!!!
FROM WHERE DOES ALL THIS VITRIOL COME? IS IT VIEWED AS THE NORM AFTER THE CHENEY-ROVE-BUSH PROGRAM OF GREED POLITICS, ASSAULTS ON CIVIL RIGHTS AND MENDACIOUS SMEARS AS THE NORM? YES HILLARY CLINTON IS WELL-QUALIFED. LIKELY BARRACK OBAMA COULD PROVE TO BE ALSO. WHY NOT BOTH ON THE TICKET? THEIR SENATE SEATS COULD DEVOLVE TO APPOINTMENT BY THE STATE GOVS AND SPECIAL ELECTIONS COULD BE HELD IN NEW YOR AND ILLINOIS. LET'S EXAMINE THE ISSUES WITH THESE TWO CANDIDATES AND STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS. A LOT OF WORK TO RESTORE ACTUAL DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE DONE AFTER THE RECENT DISASTERS OF THE PRESENT REGIME.
What are the people in Ohio and Texas thinking, Didn't they help Bush get a second term?  My PA vote will be for Obama.  He might not be the best experienced, but he is for the people not the big corporations. We have to ask ourselves if we want the rich to keep getting richer and the poor to get poorer.  I use to think of myself as middle class, but there is no middle class anymore.  Hillary voted to allow credit card companies to raise the interest rates up to 30%. But yet she says she'll help us keep our houses by freezing the current interest rate for five years.  How does that help us.  And her health care program will make her richer and the companies she works with not help us.  Sorry I just had to vent.  Obama gets my vote !!!!!
Notice that Obama's supporters have more education, but they also have more money.  Privileged people can afford to play around with unspecified "change", but the Democratic party is supposed to represent the hard-working (and intelligent) people who have good reasons to be afraid.  Those people recognize that the Clintons' long record tilts consistently toward the "little guy" and the working poor.
Remember, PA.   Clinton is being propped up by the machine including Governor Rendell.  You know, the one who brounght you the back room deals including the 15-54 % pay raise of 2005 which brought about a voter revolt.  He is also up to his eyeballs in the emerging DeNaples / Mount Airy lodge / gambling board scandal.
God, yes, by all means, let's strch this out, so Clinton can run a few more ads that can give Mc Wars some ideas to run ads on her or Obama, later.  That's what this stupid, self-destructive party needs!
It is funny to see people bring up the " highly educated" vote for Obama and blue collar vote for Clinton.  A simple look at history will show you that these people "the highly educated" typically vote republican in the general election. Republicans are friendly to wall street, big buiness and those with wealth. The same wealth the being "highly educated" brings you. I wonder do they not teach politics, or related subjects in school anymore. oh ya only 27% of eligible voters vote anyway.
So apparently Mississippi and Wyoming aren't important enough for Hillary? She's played that card all along and is STILL behind in the delegate count. Wisconsin wasn't important enough, either....remember?
Barack should win the nomination because more people WANT him to win. Does anyone else notice she also keeps saying she won Michigan and Florida? She, along with the rest of them, voted AGAINST campaigning in both states......guess this is like her vote on the Iraq war, eh? And you want someone like THAT in the White House? Get real.
Well all you trolls, and sheep enjoy yourselves!  Go to your bashing stations and have at it.  You have seven weeks to roll around in your angst.
We here in the sunshine of a FANTASTIC SWEEP OF BIG STATES will leave you to your misery.
Enjoy your posting, help each other cope, lighten up!
PHD from Wooster,
I agree with your statment. blue collar workers deal in reality everyday, they know who will fight for them. This is not about race as much as the fence sitting independents would like us to believe, it is about pocketbook issues, jobs, the economy. High minded rethoric like "changing the world" just doesn't sound real anymore after the same message being used over and over again by the Bush White House.
Some how the Obama supporters have gotten it in their heads that Barak will change the dynamics of our social structure by just being the first black president, this is part of the myth the media has constructed. The media has created this
post-modernist belief that we can somehow overcome human nature and all love one another. Virtual reality is now reality, just watch TV and see, everything will turn out OK, just like in the movies.
Reality with kick you in the teeth if you do not watch out.
If Senator Obama really wants to win he will have to now talk issues over promises, it is as simple as that!
How soon we forget how close the Clintons and George Bush have been these eight long years.  Alot has happened.  The war, high interest  rates, a failing ecomony and job loss just to mention a few.   Our young people are speaking out in force to support Obama.  Maybe we should listen to them.  


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