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Hillary wins three of four

Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:05 AM by Mark Murray

With 99% of precincts reporting, Clinton won Ohio, 54%-44%.
With 99% of precincts reporting, she won Texas, 51%-47%
With 98% of precincts reporting, she won Rhode Island, 58%-40%
And with 86% of precincts reporting, Obama won Vermont, 60%-38%.

USA Today’s Page writes that Clinton “rejuvenated her flagging campaign and broke rival Barack Obama's long winning streak Tuesday with victories in the Ohio and Texas primaries. The results mean that their nomination battle will continue at least to the next big primary in Pennsylvania next month - and perhaps longer.”  

AP's Fouhy: "A primary season notable for its prediction-defying twists and turns lurched into new territory yet again, with Ohio and Texas testing Obama's momentum and organizational muscle against Clinton's gamble that Democrats were not yet ready to dismiss her pioneering candidacy."

The Boston Globe: "Clinton breathed new life into her presidential bid last night with key victories in the Ohio and Texas primaries, ending Barack Obama's month-long run of momentum and adding yet another twist to the historic contest for the Democratic nomination."

The New York Times’ Nagourney writes, “[Clinton’s] victory in Texas was razor thin and came early Wednesday morning after most Americans had gone to bed. But by winning decisively in Ohio earlier in the night, Mrs. Clinton was able to deliver a televised victory speech in time for the late-night news. And the result there allowed her to cast Tuesday as the beginning of a comeback even though she stood a good chance of gaining no ground against Mr. Obama in the hunt for delegates.”

The Times’ Pat Healy adds: “For Mrs. Clinton, the battle ahead is not so much against Mr. Obama as it is against a Democratic Party establishment that had once been ready to coalesce behind her but has been drifting toward Mr. Obama. The party wants a standard-bearer now to wage the war against the newly minted leader of the Republicans, Senator John McCain, who enjoys a head start with every day that the Democrats lack a nominee of their own.”

The LA Times: “In winning New Hampshire a few weeks ago, Hillary Rodham Clinton declared, ‘I found my own voice.’ But it was a much different voice in the closing days before Tuesday's voting that carried her to victory in Ohio and Texas… Gone was the misty-eyed Clinton who scored points showing her human side. Gone was the gracious Clinton who, just two weeks ago, drew thunderous applause for expressing her pride in running against Barack Obama. The new voice was angrier, sharper and far more negative toward Obama -- a voice that at one point bellowed at her rival, ‘Shame on you,’ as she pushed back against what she said was an unfair attack.”

The Washington Post: “Clinton still faces daunting odds in her bid for the nomination. Obama began the day with a lead in pledged delegates that will be hard for her to overcome in the 12 primaries and caucus remaining, despite the results from the four states voting yesterday. But her advisers said that the big win in Ohio alone would force a serious look at both candidates and that the race was far from over.”

The New York Post dubs Clinton "Comeback Queen."

The New York Daily News calls her "The Comeback Gal." "Clinton's victories snapped Obama's winning streak and assured her a healthy share of the day's delegates, although Obama was expected to remain ahead in the delegate race."

The Boston Globe's Canellos says Obama "ended the day with two stubborn opponents: Hillary Clinton -- vowing to continue her campaign after big victories in Rhode Island and Ohio -- and a long-delayed but growing media backlash against his candidacy. The second one may be more threatening than the first."

Per NBC’s Sarah Demarest, Clinton told NBC's TODAY that she would continue on to Pennsylvania and go all the way, citing that in recent history no nominee has won the presidency without winning the bellwether of Ohio.

How much did race and gender factor in Ohio? The AP: "One-fifth of white Ohio voters said race was an important issue to their vote, and those who did voted three in four for Clinton. That compares with the one in five Democrats in Ohio who said gender was important to their vote, and they voted six in 10 for Clinton."

The Politico’s Ben Smith looks ahead. “The campaigns bring their well-known strengths and weaknesses to Pennsylvania: Obama will likely have the momentum of two friendly, smaller contests this month in Wyoming and Mississippi, and a formidable lead among the pledged delegates chosen in primaries and caucuses, one that even a defeat in Pennsylvania won't erase. He will also arrive with solid support from African-American, well-educated, and younger voters. But Clinton will bring a proven resilience, the support of the local political establishment, and a message that played well in the industrial Midwest of Ohio - a state parts of Pennsylvania closely resemble.”

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Somebody said politics makes for strange bedfellows. Clinton and Limbaugh are enjoying a cigarette together right now.
When was the last time Hillary congratulated Obama in a speech on his wins?
I'm SO happy the people of Texas and Ohio were smart enough for vote majority for Hillary!!!  She is the candidate that can beat McCain.  Her hard work has paid off and she is going to turn this ship around.  My husband is in Iraq and I trust her to responsibly bring him home.  I think Obama will be a great VP or with more experience antoher run after Hillary's 8 years but I don't trust him to turn the war, economy, and all of the other issues around in this country.  It didn't take much too much negativity from the media to turn people against Obama so we democrats are lucky to find out how fickle his support is now rather than in a general election.  His whole platform for running for President is that he was against the war. OKAY!  He didn't have to VOTE against the war.  He just got to give a speech which he is very good at but you can't run an election against the republicans on that and you can't run the country based on that.  
Massive Republican cross over, from urging of Conservative Radio (Rush), to keep Hillary in it.
Serious ballot problems in high Obama support areas like Clinton supporter Stephanie Tubbs-Jones' district.
Blantant use of false lines and fear tactics.

Congrats on your "wins" Hillary.  Let the mud slinging continue for months.

Cincinnati, a huge Republican city (about 75% R vs 25 D) now has more registered Democrats than Repubs after all the cross over to vote Hillary to keep this battle going after urging of Rush Limbaugh for the last few days.  Too bad all those hundreds of thousands of Repubs voting for Hillary will not be doing that in November.

Congrats President McCain!
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THE CLINTON ATTACK MACHINE WILL REALLY GET NASTY NOW.
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It's time to give Hillary her due.  The press has acted like a win in a small caucus is as important as a win in a big-state primary.  That's just not the case but the media likes to talk about Obama winning 11 in a row...  so what?  How many of those states are going to help the Democrats win in November?   Very few because they'll be going for McCain in most cases.    

The Texas prima-caucus shows just how flawed the caucus system is for establishing the public's will.  Almost 3 million people voted in the Texas Democratic primary, which Hillary won by at roughly 100,000 votes.  In contrast, no more than 120,000 people will have voted in the Texas Democratic caucus, which Obama will win.  Why will he win?  Because Clinton's elderly supporters and parents with kids couldn't come back later to vote again.  No problem for Obama's college kids and the 20s and 30s supporters without kids.

Anyhow, I think primaries should be the determinant if it comes down to a delegate draw at the convention.  The primaries are where everyone can vote over the many hours each polling place in open, not just at an evening meeting.  

Hillary won California, New York, Massachusetts, Texas, and Ohio, all of which will be key in November.  She also won Florida by a lot(the names of ALL the Democrats were on the ballot there, unlike Michigan).  This shows me she's the one who should be going up against John McCain in the fall.

Go Hillary.  Run hard for the nomination and ask Obama to be your running mate.
Hillary may have won this battle, but she will not win the war.  Hillary is trying to steal the nomination through fear, lies, and election fraud in New York, New Hampshire, Nevada, New Mexico, California, and most likely Ohio.

Most of Obama's supporters will show her "what time it is" at the polls for the general election, with our lack of support for her fraudulent campaign tactics.

What I find most strange is that even though Barack closed the double-digit leads she had in the polls in Ohio and Texas, she curiously was very confident that she would win Ohio.  Is it because her thug in high places--Strickland, made it possibe through rigging the votes?  

Hillary obviously doesn't like caucuses because they can't be rigged to her advantage.  Thivery may have gotten her this far, but she will not get they gold!

OBAMA  08
That is exactly right, we all move on.

As an Obama supporter, my morale was pretty low late last night and then this morning.  But suprisingly, I feel pretty OK now.  We also live on to fight another day.

I am proud of my candidate...I have been all along since I decided for him at the end of January.  I think he may need to tweak his message and show more toughness (like Barnacle just said on Morning Joe) but  I still think he's ultimately the better candidate for America.

He made great gains in Texas and he had a strong showing in Ohio but did appear to be hurt by the advertising there.  That is concerning....if the campaign goes very negative, I think the Dems will lose strength overall.  I am VERY wary of that.  That is the politics as usual that we all rail against.

I think both candidates have their strengths but they need to be careful for the general.  Its my feeling that if the election turns on national security (ala the 3 am phone call ad), then you can entirely justify a vote to McCain over Clinton.  That's a problem.

I also think we have to be wary of talking down certain ENTIRE states as insignificant.  If Clinton continues to talk this way, she should not be surprised if the popular vote is supressed in those "insignificant" states.  If we are so insignificant, why bother to vote?  Language IS important.  I feel the same with red. v. blue.  Shouldn't we (as Dems) be trying to win traditionally red states?  Isn't that what change is about?  And won't blue states be likely to go Democratic anyway?  (Isn't that why they're called blue?).  Yes arguments can be made either way but its disengenious to discount entire states as Clinton and some spin-masters have done.

I wish both candidates well, I'm not unhappy that they live to fight another day.  I just wish that we could go forward with something substantive, constructive, and positive.  I think the American electorate will continue to turn out the vote for that...(and I caution that negative campaigning will just give the country to the Republicans).

Howard Dean and the DNC, please continue to stay on course with playing by the established rules and please do what you can to help it stay positive.

And to the Barack Obama folks (the candidate and the campaign), hang in there and stay tough (you've already proved you can hang on and that you're tough and I support your strong leadership...let it continue).
Can Barak please make this argument, either himself or through surrogates:  IF Hillary says that the superdelegates should exercise their independent judgement as part officials, then shouldnt they step in NOW to end this before we hand the advantage to McCain.  Obama is ahead, and will remain ahead, in pledged delegates and popular vote, so NOW is the time to use the superdelegates. For the good of the party.
Hillary may have won this battle, but she will not win the war.  Hillary is trying to steal the nomination through fear, lies, and election fraud in New York, New Hampshire, Nevada, New Mexico, California, and most likely Ohio.

Most of Obama's supporters will show her "what time it is" at the polls for the general election, with our lack of support for her fraudulent campaign tactics.

What I find most strange is that even though Barack closed the double-digit leads she had in the polls in Ohio and Texas, she curiously was very confident that she would win Ohio.  Is it because her thug in high places--Strickland, made it possibe through rigging the votes?  

Hillary obviously doesn't like caucuses because they can't be rigged to her advantage.  Thivery may have gotten her this far, but she will not get they gold!

OBAMA  08
GO HILARY, YOU'LL MAKE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE GUTS AND GRACE BESIDES KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.
Analysis: two tough foes ahead for Obama
Posted by James F. Smith March 5, 2008 12:23 AM
By Peter S. Canellos, Globe Staff
WASHINGTON — Barack Obama woke up yesterday morning with hopes of vanquishing his last remaining rival and claiming the Democratic presidential nomination. He ended the day with two stubborn opponents: Hillary Clinton — vowing to continue her campaign after big victories in Rhode Island and Ohio — and a long-delayed but growing media backlash against his candidacy.
The second one may be more threatening than the first.
Despite breaking Obama’s string of 11 victories, Clinton is likely to gain only a modest boost in delegates and will have a hard time erasing his lead in delegates. And the Democratic party leaders who make up the party’s ‘‘superdelegates’’ will feel pressure to validate the will of the people, meaning that Obama remains the front-runner for the nomination.
But for the first time in his improbable rise, Obama himself became the main issue in the campaign — and the voters’ response wasn’t encouraging.
Obama had built up a 75,000-vote lead in early voting in Texas, only to see Clinton erase it with a strong comeback in the last few days; exit polls showed that late-deciding voters chose her over him by a 2-1 ratio.
A last-minute Clinton TV ad questioning Obama’s ability to maintain national security may have helped her; so too did his own mishandling of a controversy over his aide’s alleged comments to Canadian officials suggesting Obama wasn’t serious about renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement.
Clinton, in what may be her first memorable phrase of the long campaign, accused Obama of giving voters the old ‘‘wink-wink’’ — promising something he didn’t intend to deliver. And Obama suddenly was on the defensive.
''It seems clear that Clinton had the better of the last few days of the campaign,’’ said Dante Scala, political scientist a political science professor at the University of New Hampshire. As a result, he said, Clinton is unlikely to face as much pressure to withdraw from the race, setting up another potential showdown in Pennsylvania on April 22.
The long wait for Pennsylvania will give both campaigns a chance to rearm themselves with money and issues. But compared to previous chapters in this drawn-out epic of an election, Obama election year, Obama will almost certainly be receiving greater scrutiny than Clinton.
For two months, the Illinois senator dominated the national zeitgeist with his ‘‘yes, we can’’ message of hope and change, a phenomenon celebrated in YouTube videos and T-shirts. But his recent return to earth coincided with the settling of the TV writers’ writer’s strike and the reemergence of late-night comedy shows as a political force.
Comics are quick to impose a story line and make it stick: Their jokes spring from common knowledge about the candidates — John McCain’s age, Clinton’s marital troubles, Mike Huckabee’s frequent professions of faith.
‘‘Saturday Night Live,’’ the granddaddy of all political comedy shows, chose to build its Obama narrative around the idea that reporters were completely in his thrall. And its skits — on both Feb. 23 and March 1 — presented Obama as an amiable guy inflated to hero status by a worshipful media.
Clinton, by contrast, was presented as annoying but indefatigable — a scrappy underdog whose complaints of unfairness got laughed off by the media. As if to drive home the point, comedienne Tina Fey used the Feb. 23 ‘‘Weekend Update’’ segment to deliver a thinly veiled exhortation to young women to quit Obama and get with the Hillary bandwagon.
‘‘In less than a minute, the SNL skit crystallized Hillary’s complaints [about unfair media treatment] and upgraded them from mere media inside baseball to the conventional wisdom,’’ said Matthew Felling, the former media analyst for CBS.com.
Clinton was quick to seize on the skit as proof of her point — mentioning it in last week’s debate in Ohio and then flying to New York for a long cameo on the show last Saturday.
The SNL appearance, followed by a stint on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart on Monday night, seemed to clear some of the gloom from around Clinton; her poll numbers began improving late last week.
Still, her wins in Ohio and Rhode Island and her battle for Texas only put her where the polls had had her a few weeks earlier, before Obama’s campaign blanketed the states with ads and staffers.
Rhode Island and Ohio were her turf, and she held it. She can feel relieved to be going on to Pennsylvania, but Obama remains the main focus of the race.
If he can handle it.

Go Hillary--destroy the party before the Republicans can get to it--If Superdelegates give this to her I will stay home on election day out of disgust! Obama will need to get down in the mud with the secretive, nasty Clintons to win this!
Love you Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island!
Go Hillary Go!
I say a Hillary-Pres./Obama, Vice President would be the balm of a ticket.
Great revenge on the media that has failed to question Obama and pushed the wind behind his back.
Even now they try and minimize her victories as much as possible.  

Have you noticed that affluent voters support Obama and the media is affluent.  Get the connection.  The media ARE Obama supporters.

We the working class people of America, WE the 49+ women of America and we the senior citizens of America, WE want Hillary as President.

Blacks are voting for Obama because he is black.

We are voting for Hillary because she is most qualified.  And thats just the plain truth.

Obama can be president in 8 years and train as Vice President under Hillary.

And by the way the 1 million 300,000 people that voted in Florida do count!!! We voted for Hillary!!!
Just a warning to you Obamanites, if we catch you destroying Hillary Clinton signs, like you did in Texas we will contact the local law enforcement. The next time we will be "watching" so you may want  to think twice before you start destroying our campaign material.
Dems know how to shoot themselves in the foot very well. Considering that Obama and Hillary agree on 97% in regards to issues it scary that this nominating primary is going to be dragged into the convention while McCain just sits back and throws everything at them. Include Florida, Michigan and the elusive Superdelegates....What a mess!
Hillary & the Media are going to steal this election. From day (1) Hillary was the favorite, now they're calling her the "Come Back Gal/Queen". She hasn't won anything. Why is the media asking questions about Obama unable to win, isn't he still leading in delegates. The Math is simple 1 + 2 = 3, Hillary is not in the lead. Hillary was favorite to win Ohio & Texas from day one and by double digits, so this isn't any surprise.

Obama it is time to treat Hillary as a man no more Mr. Nice Guy.
Hillary & the Media are going to steal this election. From day (1) Hillary was the favorite, now they're calling her the "Come Back Gal/Queen". She hasn't won anything. Why is the media asking questions about Obama unable to win, isn't he still leading in delegates. The Math is simple 1 + 2 = 3, Hillary is not in the lead. Hillary was favorite to win Ohio & Texas from day one and by double digits, so this isn't any surprise.

Obama it is time to treat Hillary as a man no more Mr. Nice Guy.
Hilary's dirt politics won voters last night. Thanks Ohio and Texas for splitting your party. If Hillary wins the nomination John McCain will eat her lunch on his way to the white house, and the world will be a worst place for it.
51% in TX and 54% in Ohio? That is not even  what she needs to win (58%) in all 3.
I would prefer that since some states are more receivable to politics of fear than facts, Obama needs to increase his tat for tit war with Clinton and portray her as merely standing in the way of the Democratc Party. You can not hope for change "we can believe in" when what your opponent does is impede the nominating process by wining deceptively and aggressively.
Sour grapes from the Obamamorons.  Sorry.  Guess not everyone has taken a gulp from the well of kool aid!  Congrats Hillary!  
All I can tell is how inefficient and awkward the electoral voting process of democratic party is. It costs the moral, it costs the money and it drags every democrat voter's feet. If Obama can claim winning by collecting all of small caucaus states, trust me, America is an endengered species, we will not be able to fight any war (economic, terrorism and others) at world stage going forward.

I was a Dean democrat in 2004 and went against the war, but I fear the netroots movement is like High Tech bubble, once it is burst, all of the young voters will be crushed and confused without deep understanding of the history. High tech provides speed, efficiency and wide spread coverage with SUPERFICIAL understanding of the meaning and consequences. It has no rationality!!!
If Clinton is the Democratic nominee, the Democratic Party will split, with young people, progressives and the college educated moving to the Greens. The Green Party is already growing where I live. If Hillary had the foresight to see this happening, she would secure her place in history by playing kingmaker, and handing the nomination to Obama. That would be a powerful moment, but I doubt she has the good judgment to make it happen. She will destroy us.
Here is what we know.  Obama is still up by more than 100 delegates after last night.  She didn't win.  She broke even.  You can call ohio a win for sure but Obama is going to actually cross that out with his Texas results when all of it is tallied.  I would argue that he won texas based on what we see.  I have to tell you that the Obama knew this was coming and is already fired up about the next states coming.  Hillary will have her day of media frenzy over her wins but lets be honest.  She still doesn't have the math to justify her being nominated and Barack does.  It is ok.  The party will suffer.  If Hillary continues as she is this will give Mccain the entry he needs to the White House.  We knew this before yesterday and we know it now.
WAY TO GO HILLARY!!!
I THINK YOUR ABILITY TO STAY IN THE RACE WHEN ALL THE PUNDANTS AND THE OBAMA BUNCH IS TRYING TO GET YOU TO DROP OUT ONLY SHOW YOUR GREAT STRENTH.  A VERY GOOD THING FOR A PRESIDENT TO HAVE.
MY FAMILY LOVES YOU AND WE CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT.
NH Democrat, Texas is a 'red' state idiot.  Hillary complained that Obama was winning red states and now you're hanging your hat on a red state.  

America loves a fighter who can come off the ropes again... and again and again. If there is nothing else good you can say about Clinton... she does not cave in! Whether its a Republican Congress, {who were ALL receiving Government paid (socialistic?)healthcare... (see www.cheneycare.org)in 1994}.... or the vitriol that was spilled by Republicans during her 1996 attempts to pass some reasonable national childcare plan(so that Welfare Moms could actually afford to go back to work). Or NOW in a fight for Democrats who believe that as John Lennon once said, "...there are NO problems, ONLY solutions"!

And THEN when she is down & out in her 2nd "no win" political contest, gets up again and NOW goes on SNL & the Daily Show....and makes fun of herself!

All of this must really boggle the minds of people who say they hate Clinton... for no other reason than they were told by right wing nut jobs that they SHOULD hate her - and NOBODY can give us a good substantive reason! It is a blind hate that has NO place in our Party or in our Country!

To be able to see through the hate, to have the courage to fight against the meanspiritedness, to take on the likes of Rush and Coulter is no different than why we fought the Facists in WWII and the racists of the 1950s a & '60's... and now the fear mongers of Cheney/Mccain/Bush/Wolfowitz et al!

THIS after all is why we are Proud to be Democrats for Obama OR Clinton!

Clinton/Obama '08, Obama/Clinton '08
Geoff said, "then shouldnt they [superdelegates] step in NOW to end this before we hand the advantage to McCain.

YES, YES, and YES.

This is ultimately going to be decided by superdelegates. So, start stepping up NOW.

It's all warm and fuzzy to say that this vigorous contest is 'great'...but at this point, the Republican nom is tied up--and we're doing McCain's work for him...and at a HuGe financial cost, as well.

I'm not even going to try to presume to tell the superdelegates how to vote--but the party would benefit if they all just spoke up NOW and got it over with.  Clinton and Obama can 'make nice' after it's all over, but MANY of their supporters will not be willing to forgive so easily.  That hurts the party.  And that means we could have another Republican president!!
CONGRATS HILLARY!

You did it DESPITE being outspent 2.5:1 in commercial time.

You did it DESPITE Obama getting the endorsements of several unions, leaders and that fat Oprah.

You did it DESPITE being at the receiving end of an unfair and blatantly biased news media.

No candidate either republican or democrat can be elected to the White House without winning OHIO and you won it hands down!

You won all the big states that DO matter. You have the lead in popular vote and will win the next key state of PA and win the nomination.

We need a fighter like you to make USA strong and respectable. Not a wimp like Obama who does not even know the name of the Russian President.

I just made my next contribution to Hillary! Go on and win the Presidency.
America loves a fighter who can come off the ropes again... and again and again. If there is nothing else good you can say about Clinton... she does not cave in! Whether its a Republican Congress, {who were ALL receiving Government paid (socialistic?)healthcare... (see www.cheneycare.org)in 1994}.... or the vitriol that was spilled by Republicans during her 1996 attempts to pass some reasonable national childcare plan(so that Welfare Moms could actually afford to go back to work). Or NOW in a fight for Democrats who believe that as John Lennon once said, "...there are NO problems, ONLY solutions"!

And THEN when she is down & out in her 2nd "no win" political contest, gets up again and NOW goes on SNL & the Daily Show....and makes fun of herself!

All of this must really boggle the minds of people who say they hate Clinton... for no other reason than they were told by right wing nut jobs that they SHOULD hate her - and NOBODY can give us a good substantive reason! It is a blind hate that has NO place in our Party or in our Country!

To be able to see through the hate, to have the courage to fight against the meanspiritedness, to take on the likes of Rush and Coulter is no different than why we fought the Facists in WWII and the racists of the 1950s a & '60's... and now the fear mongers of Cheney/Mccain/Bush/Wolfowitz et al!

THIS after all is why we are Proud to be Democrats for Obama OR Clinton!

Clinton/Obama '08, Obama/Clinton '08
HIllary should send a big box of the best cigars to Rush after yesterday.  

But of course the best thing that happened is that the democratic nomination party jus got a little longer and the longer you libs out there seem to like it, the stronger my guys get.

Congress could not get anything done in the last two years and now they will have a fight for the White House as well....

Just keep going libs.....
My guys will be back before you know it!
You cannot win the general election w/o winning either Ohio or Florida.  Just look at why Bush won both times.
Clinton has won both states with large margins.  
There is no question that part of the equation now has to take into account the size and importance of the states that Hillary has won in what will happen in the fall election. Simply go through the list and it is clear she has to be seen as at least an equal to Obama, if not the front runner to those interested in winning in November.
There is no question that part of the equation now has to take into account the size and importance of the states that Hillary has won in what will happen in the fall election. Simply go through the list and it is clear she has to be seen as at least an equal to Obama, if not the front runner to those interested in winning in November.
Yes, Rush has so much power that only a couple of days talk got so many of his republican listeners to vote for Hillary.
Just like weeks and months of railing against McCain got the republicans to not vote......oh, wait - that didn't happen did it?
Yeah, he's a real political force alright.
I told my daughter before I left for work this morning that Hillary can't win for the losing.  Some people will die before they say something positive about her.  I knew the blogs would be ringing w/ indignation that she wasn't stomped out of existence yet.
She didn't win because of 'dirty tricks' or 'vote manipulation', any more than Obama lost because of Resko or his unexpectedly poor handling of the Canada flub.  She won because she won and he lost because he lost.  It's a divided electorate and will most likely result in a split ticket.  Let everyone else vote and move on.  
It's really funny that the people who hate her with the most (usually baseless) vitriol are actually doing her the most good.
Like McCain, she performs best when she's the underdog.  Obama not so much.  In fact, he looked downright surly last night.
Guess being out of all that rarified air and down w/ the rest of us common people isn't so much to his liking.
He'd better get used to it tho as it appears it's not even close to over.
The so called SUPER DELEGATES need to step in and stop being scared of the Clintons. This tearing down of the democratic party has to end.

Hillary cannot win without the SUPER DELEGATES and if they decide to over rule the votes of the people and become a dictatorship, every elected official in their district will not get re-elected.

Obama "08"
DE, Texas demographics are changing everyday and quickly.  I am not saying that the Dems are going to win in November but you might take note of the Hispanic and "Texas woman" vote there last night.  Remember Ann Richards.  Texas was a "blue" state years ago and is dayly heading back to that hue after a long and sad venture with the Republicans.
The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is now working FOR Hillary, to get her nominated, knowing they can tear her past misdoings to pieces, knowing she's UNELECTABLE---and, as ususal, the STUPID Democratic Party is going along on this self-destructive road.  To have an elderly, uncharismatic speaker being backed by the most unpopular president in a generation would seem to be a gift from God to the dems, right on a silver platter; if they lose this one---and they will if Hillary gets the nomination---they couldn't win an election to dogcatcher.  If HIl gets nominated, I'll hold my nose, announce to the room before I go in and vote, "I'm voting for a person I can't stand only because the other one I can't stand even MORE!" and vote.  But if the dems run Hil and lose, I'm joining the Space Alien Party and voting for Kucinich, or the Greens, and voting for Nader, or for Daffy Duck, or somebody more meaningful than a guaranteed loser like Hillary. And if John Dubya Mc Hundred Years' War is elected and starts the draft to build the army Bush broke, I'll take my draft-age kids North and vote Labor in the Canadian election, eh?
Go John! Look for a McCain landslide in November.
There were a lot of GOp'ers that did vote for Hillary, since our candidate was already set for the general election.  I voted for Obama myself, I could never vote for anybody named Clinton after the shame and embarrassment we had in the 90's.

But when you asked those same people would they do it again, they all said "no way".

Rush Limbaugh was right on the money as usual.  It is better to destroy the Clinton's then Obama.

For all his socialist talk and anti-military standing, Obama does seem to be a nice guy....

Hillary, on the other hand, is a mean nasty little woman that will stop at nothing short of destroying her good name and her party to get to the White House.

If they end up as a shared ticket, this will be the nastiest tag team in recent memory.  Hillary will give Obama an office at the Capitol building and Bill will move into Vice President Cheney's old office in the west wing.
Congrats to Senator Clinton She is my Hero. I trust her with my Money and my Kids. When her Husband was President my Life was good  I could take my Kids to the Movies. I had Money in the Bank.  She has always been a strong Advocate for the Children and I like that.  Plus she is a Strong Woman and I admire that.  She looks like a Commander and Chief  to me.  The Men that hate her are just insecure this is a Male Dominated Society. Men have run this Country for 100s of Years and look at the mess we are in.  War everywhere too much Testosterone running loose.  Black People only have a Act that was enacted in 1965giving them the right to Vote.  I believe Clinton will push Legislation to make my right to vote Law. My Family is Predominately Male and Military my Dad and my Brothers all served.  Mrs. Clinton was behind the scenes when Bill was the President and we all know he did not make decisions with out her input.  I am going with the experience and  I believe she will bring change.  I do not vote for someone based on their Race. I have 3 Sons and they are young Black Males and they love Hillary.  My 18 year plays Video games if he hears her voice on the TV he comes a running and calls up all of his Buddies and tells them to watch her. Before my 18 year had his 18th Birthday he said he could not wait to Register to Vote so he could Vote for Hillary.  So on his 18th Birthday he Registered to Vote.  Go Hillary from the Howard Clan we love you.
The press is missing the big stories:
1) where is Hillary's tax return and why is she hiding it?
Hillary refuses to offer an example of commander-in-chief experience because she is providing the subliminal message that Bill admirers can feel secure that at 3AM he, the experienced and de facto one of the commanders-in-chief, will answer the phone while she sleeps.
Winning means lies about your experience - the Clinton campaign strategist could not give one example of Hillary's national security experience. She doesn't even have top security clearance. It also means lies about your opponent works. The Canadian government said Obama was not saying one thing in public about NAFTA and something different in private and the Canadian government apologized about the distortion. Winning means telling Americans to be hope does not matter. Winning means Clinton does not have to release her tax returns as have Obama and McCain. Winning means changing the rules with regards to MI and FL. She claims she won those states even though Obama was not even on the ballot in MI. Wow - this is who the Dems in OH, TX and RI want as their Commander -in-Chief. If she does win and becomes the next President, nothing will get done in Congress because the Dems will definitely loose the House and Senate just as what happened when Bill was in the White House.
Keith in MD,

Mental image I'd rather not have!!  

Congrats to Capt Rhetoric (Obama) for capturing the votes in Vermont.  Congrats to Senators Clinton & McCain for their respective victories.  Congrats to the voters who cast their lot with their respective candidates.  More than the candidates, those who voted are the true winners!!
Dems know how to shoot themselves in the foot very well. Considering that Obama and Hillary agree on 97% in regards to issues it scary that this nominating primary is going to be dragged into the convention while McCain just sits back and throws everything at them. Include Florida, Michigan and the elusive Superdelegates....What a mess!

juan,ft lauderdale, fl (Sent Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:39 AM)



It is a mess. As a Republican, I had real and serious doubts about winning in November. After last night, things are looking much brighter. Even a ticket with both Obama and Hillary on it (can anyone really believe that Hillary would ever accept being the VP on the ticket? Not a chance.) would not hold up well. With all the mud-slinging to come, it would actually look ridiculous.
COME ON MOMS AND DADS ISN'T IT TIME WE LOOK AT OUR DAUGHTERS(NOT JUST SONS) AND SAY WHEN YOUR GROW UP YOU CAN BE PRESIDENT---THESE 20 SOMETHINGS DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STRUGGLE FOR EQUAL RIGHTS/PAY FOR WOMEN. THANK GOD FOR WOMEN WHO LIKE HILLARY WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS AS PEOPLE. SHE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR ALL OF US JUST AS SHE HAS IN THE PAST-SHE IS QUALIFIED AND SHE WILL MAKE A STRONG OUTSTANDING PRESIDENT.
 W E  H A V E  C O M E  A  L O N G  W A Y

GO HILLARY!!!!    
If obama is DNC nominee then I will vote for McCain and if Hilary is DNC nominee I will vote for her
....but if she choses obama to run as Vice President then I will vote for McCain again.

I do not trust obama on issues any loonger. i persoanlly feel he has slandered our party by not being firm in his own beliefs and taking a stance - I never know what he is thinking therefore I don't know how he would support/vote on issues that are crucial.

It is a mistake we have carried him this far.
Did anyone else notice how Clinton plagarized from John Edwards in her speech last night?  Is an endorsement forthcoming?
I hope that Wyoming and Mississippi realize he's just talk.
His speech on the war is meaningless since he hasn't tried to vote against funding it or have had any hearings on Afghanistan. Too busy running for President to do this?
Hillary has attend 2 of the senate arms committee hearings and she to is running for Prresident, what can't he multi task? Thats what a President needs to be able to do.


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