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Obama, the day after

Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:16 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan and NBC's Mark Murray
SAN ANTONIO -- In the coming weeks, look for the Obama campaign to seek to start pushing hard against the substance of Clinton's claim that she has more experience than Obama does.
 
"I think that this week she made a series of arguments about why she would be a superior candidate," Obama told reporters during a press conference on his campaign plane. "She made the experience argument that she's been making repeatedly, particularly around foreign policy and her ability to handle a crisis. And so I think its important to examine that claim and not just allow her to assert it, which is think has been going on for quite some time."

Pointing to Clinton's foreign policy experience, he questioned how tangible it really was. 

"I know she talks about visiting 80 countries. It's not clear, ya know, was she negotiating treaties or agreements or was she handling crises during this period of time? My sense is the answer is no," he said.

He also raised questions regarding transparency, saying that it was doubtful that Clinton could make a better argument on ethics and disclosure than him, saying "that's an issue that should be tested." Indeed, Obama's campaign issued a memo criticizing Clinton for waiting to release her tax returns; her campaign has said she will do so by April 15.

"Senator Clinton has also claimed that she is too 'busy' to release her tax returns," the memo reads. "Given the fact she is able to loan her campaign $5 million, you would think the Clintons would be able to hire an accountant. The reality is that she wants to keep this information hidden from voters. The people of Wyoming, Mississippi, Pennsylvania and the rest of the country should wonder why."

And in a conference call, Obama chief strategist David Axelrod, discussing the Clinton campaign saying it would release her tax returns on April 15, wondered why Clinton hadn't released her 2006 tax returns.

In the avail, Obama also blamed the barrage of negative attacks by the Clinton campaign on the reason that many undecideds had broken for Clinton over the past three days.  Referencing Clinton's complaint that the press had been too easy on Obama, he turned to the reporters present and claimed that the press had bought into that argument.

"The kitchen sink strategy I'm sure had some impact. Particularly when many of you in the press corps felt that you had been too hard on her and too soft on me. Complaining about the refs apparently worked a little bit this week, so in addition to my call to ["Saturday Night Live" executive producer] Loren Michaels, hopefully people feel like everything's evened out and we can start covering the campaign properly," he said.

But no matter who won the upcoming contests and where the delegate math will stand after all the primaries are over, even Obama acknowledged that superdelegates will have the final say in the process. "There's nothing that binds the superdelegates to honor what the voters in all these states and caucuses have determined," he said.

And what if party members and superdelegates want both names on the ticket? Obama didn't seem that enthusiastic.

"I've said before I respect Sen. Clinton as a public servant, ah -- she's a tenacious opponent. I think it is very premature to start talking about a joint ticket," he said.

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I would love to see the two canidates on one ticket, my concern is, would this cause a defeat for the Democrats.  They both have various degrees of experience in politics, and some say they are oil and water, but they both want what is best for this country and they both have combined I feel all the qualitites a President and Vice-President should have and together I believe they can and would make a change.  Who should be top of the ticket? Obama, and Clinton would make an excellent running mate.  Let's not lose sight of where America is finally headed, let's not lose focus as to why we need both of these individuals in the White House.  There are no big I's and little u's when so many millions of lives and futures are at state.  They both want the same things for Americans, who cares who drives the bus just so long as we all ride togther.  Unity, Let's not let this opportunity to make Dr. King's dream and so many others dream a reality.
I am surprised and shocked at all the negative reaction coming from female voters.   Hillary is the smartest, toughest, most articulate candidate to come along since Al Gore, and she will surely beat John McCain in November, if given the chance.   So why are all you ladies out there putting her down?   She's had to be twice as good as any man to get to the point where she is now.   And she will surely turn this country around, just like Bill did in the '90's.   They're smart, hard-working people, who want to improve this country.  

And we as women now have the opportunity to see a woman president, to have some equality in pay and in career aspirations and advances, and to finally crash through the highest of the glass ceilings.   Take some pride - don't turn against her.   She's doing the best she can and tirelessly fighting for what she believes in.   And guess what, when she gets to the White House, she'll be tirelessly fighting for you.  Don't squander that chance.  Do we really want another president with no experience?   Did you see how Bush endorsed McCain earlier today - McCain was better off without him.  

Come on ladies - we have a real chance here now.  When do you think we'll be fortunate enough to have another smart, articulate, female leader with all the requisite credentials, energy and experience running again?

Let's do it now!

Hillary '08
Ron from Texas...
You are saying Morals and decency in the same sentence with Obama...Who tried to make a under the table deal with the Canadians and got BUSTED and then tried to lie about it ..caught again
And what about Rezko?
I agree with the AJ in IL comment above. Obama needs to stress how Clinton's choices regarding going to war in Iraq, rather than focusing on Al Qeada in Afghanistan, and her opinions on Iran do NOT prove she has the best foreign policy judgement to be president. I think Obama stressed a very important, and insightful, point regarding foreign policy during the Austin, TX debate with Clinton. On the topic of Cuba, Clinton said she would not meet with Raul Castro or whoever may succeed him and continue the Communist government there until certain changes were made towards giving more freedoms, etc. But Obama said he would reach out to the Cuban leader to attempt to create dialogue and improve US-Cuban relations. Sometimes, as Obama stated, a leader has to reach beyond practing diplomacy with one's own allies, and make efforts at diplomacy with one's enemies in order to achieve a greater goodness among nations. It's easy to have diplomatic relations with your allies, but it takes a true leader to reach out and try to establish diplomatic relations with those who are not your allies (clearly a concept that the Bush Administration has no idea of, and based upon Clinton's responses concerning Cuba, I think she would just perpetuate the same mentality and approach that the current administration has). Obama went above and beyond by bringing the idea of the need to create diplomatic ties outside of one's own allies...an insightful approach to foreign policy and one that I think would make him a better president at a time when our nation needs a leader who can bring positive foreign relations to the world to repair much of the damage that Bush and his lack of a foreign policy created.
Although we are upset that Obama lost Texas and Ohio last night, we hope that he will come out fighting. I can not belive that everyone "forgets" all of bad things that went on when Bill was President. If Hillary is going to take credit for all the "Good" things that happened, she also needs to face the "Bad". My husband is a Republican and I am a Democrat, but he will be voting for Obama if he receives the nomination. If Hillary gets the nomination, I will not vote, and he will be voting for Mc Cain. Obama is a good and decent man, we feel he will bring our country back to where it needs to be. HOPE is not a bad thing. "Shame on Hillary" for the tactics she has used. I am proud of the fact that there is a woman running. I feel a woman could do a good job, "BUT NOT HILLARY". Barack its time to FIGHT.
Questions should be welcomed, I would hope.  What policies would she start if she were to become president?  Has Obama elaborated his policies?  We need to check their speeches and websites to confirm what they really want to do.  Just because you are on a committee, that doesn't mean you know or can take action.  
What many clintonites do not realize is the big states are only a part of the USA and not the USA. The USA happens to be a majority of small states that support Obama. Hillary did well in Ohio and Texas so you have some bragging rights but so did Obama! He ruduced a 20% lead to 10% in Ohio, 3% in Texas and won the Causus. He won Vermont with a much larger lead than Hillary won in Rhode Island. Do not forget this. The race is certainly not over and Obama is still leading, Hillary is stil trailing and catching him is unlikely, so cut the crap. And BTW Obama do not need Hillary to win come November but she CANNOT win without him. Before you come here talking BS please do the math.
Hillary Clinton has been involved in so much dirt, Senator Obama has plenty of ammunition. Problem is can he fire the smoking gun.  Clintons involvement with Vince Foster; probably, resulted in his Death.
Bill Clinton swinging his private parts,shows that Hillary can't control anything.
why is it that only the states that hill wins are the only ones that matter...i guess those states are what make up the UNINTED STATES !!!! get real Hill supporters.........
Barack should not personally bring up the MANY scandals that Hillary has been associated with, but he should definitely have his surrogates doing it.  As a loyal Democrat and high character person he has been reluctant to bring up the obvious negatives that everyone knows make her unelectable in the general election, and that everyone knows the Republicans will focus on.  Part of me almost wants her to be the appointed nominee so that her blind supporters see how foolish they are, but that is too dangerous in this day and age, so it is up to Barack to save his party and this country from the Clintons and the Republicans alike.  I have always been a Clinton supporter until now.  I'd support Barack as an Independent candidate if the party can not win control from the unethical Clintons.  But if Hillary is appointed I will stay home on election day.  Hillary Clinton has no cause other than forcing poor people to buy expensive healthcare and she has no moral compass other than political expediency.  She's from Chicago, New York, or Pennsylvania depending on who the crowd is.  In a debate she clearly says that the only way to ensure universal healthcare is to mandate that people buy it then denies it.  I honestly do not think she is a good person.  She is simply power hungry, and this healthcare "plan" is merely a way she can leave her mark.  I get no sense of compassion of empathy from her ever, especially when she is supposedly showing her sensitive side.  She is a bad actor.
Obama-bots are in major denial. Let me see if I can expose some facts here:
Clinton has won all major Democratic states (blue) - for whatever reason. Period.
A Democrat must hold serve - meaning win all of the "blue" states and also take at least two bellweather states in order to win the Presidency.

Obama has won most, if not all, Republican states (red). This makes sense because "red' states will not vote for the stronger Democratic candidate and also won't vote for Clinton as a rule.
Obama and his cult are embarrassingly wrong if they believe that they will "flip" red states, especially if they can not win any of the major blue states.

Caucuses only count in the primaries. The General Elections is much different - no caucuses will show the true nature of the voting trend of a state.
Get a clue and swallow your pride - a little. Obama has made the case that he must be on the Democratic ticket this fall, only as the Vice Presidential candidate. Clinton/Obama would be unstoppable. You have just a little longer to wait - only because your guy does not have quite enough experience to go up against McCain in a credible way. McCain might steal some bellweather states against Obama, but not against Clinton/Obama.
Think wise before putting your feet in your mouths once again.
Hillary/Bam '08
WHERE ARE THE TEXAS CAUSUS RESULTS?  THE FACT THAT NEW MEXICO AND TEXAS HOLD THEM UP SEEM VERY SUSPICIOUS AND BEHIND THE TIMES.  ARE THEY SENDING THE RESULTS THROUGH WESTERN UNION HORSES? When Obama said, "the world is watching"  he also means to make sure the results are not fixed.
Today is the first day of the end of the Democratic Party. There is no one in the party who has enough juice that will make the Clintons listen. As an Obama supporter, I have been discouraged to watch him cower a bit during the past few days. He cannot go ballistic on her. He needs his surrogates, but his surrogates are too scared of the Clintons. Hillary and Bill will destroy the party in their collective ego driven pursuit of power.
So experience will be the key to an Obama win, well, tell me about your experience Barak, instead of trying to pull down the other candidate, tell me about yours. I agree with Coy Stewart here, this is shaky ground for HIM to stand on.
Senator Clinton has been active on many issues since her college days, you need only look at her record, those who discount it are avoiding the truth.
Can't play 'above the fray' and then get in the dirt, that is called hypocracy my friend, but you do that so well now. A fifteen year frienship is now five minutes of work, hating Nafta and then saying something else to the canadians, saying it is not about race and then calling clinton supporters racists, now there is true hypocracy for ya all.
With her last two weeks of campaigning, the Hillary camp has all but ASKED for an all-out reminder of the Clinton's dirty laundry list, and I can only hope that the Obama campaign and its surrogates are willing to go there.

The Obama list seems rather short and inconsequential in comparison.  Other than being an acquaintance of a man who's being prosecuted, can someone tell me what Barack Obama did wrong with regards to Rezko?  I'd appreciate it, because everything I've read on the subject makes all of you Clintonites look like fools.

Air it out - the DIRTY LAUNDRY.

Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, and the rest of the Democratic party elites get what they deserve after letting Hillary get so nasty.  They are spineless. Everyone knows that the Clintons have a whole trunk full of skeletons that the Repubs have been gnawing on for 8 long years.
There is nothing negative about Obama standing up and showing courage against his opponent's smear tactics. In fact, just from a standpoint of logic and intelligence, Obama has to do this.  If Americans and HRC believe the issue of experience is most important in this election, then Americans need to know about Clinton's experience/s.  Why do we let her off so easily? She never tells the story about her childhood, her school years etc.  Let's ask her questions about her experience. Who is she? Where did she come from? Where did she work? Did she work in the corporate world?  Was she a public servant? What has she done for NY? Where are her health care work papers?  What kind of work did she do in the White House? From where has all her money come from?  What experience has led her to netting 12 million dollars?  Let's ask her the same questions. There is nothing negative about that.  
I love how the addage you reap what you sow is more than true in this instance. For all the lapdog antics of the press to bow down to poor victimized Hill and the dirty tricks and "brillian" she-devil pandering she pulled off from the news to SNL (true comedy at its best) she still did not get what she wanted and that was to stop the Obama Movement For Change or trump his delegate lead.

Funny how someone else's perceived glory is really a triumph for the other side after all.  Isn't that the game over the Hill Hilly was betting on? Well it worked just in Sen. Obama's favor. Hahahahahaha
All I can say is, it will be a BIG mistake for these two candidates to appear on the same ticket. I am for Obama and would have a hard time voting for him with Hillary on the ticket. I have lost total respect for her during this campaign. Furthermore, I would hope he does not decide to appear on her ticket if she were the dem choice. He will not benefit from pulling her cart.
Obama is so transparent.   He wants to go after Hillary's tax returns.   How about his financial records.  He said in the debate tat he made his avaiable....but that ony one years...wheres the other two years prior?   He does have alot nerve wandering into te places he doen't want to go.   To say that Hillary wouldn't get the same votes he would....is some kind of a threat     To me it is saying that you are not a democrat.  Obama needs to fest up and answer questions too.  

GO GO HILLARY

Hillary went nuclear and won 3 out of 4, in the process, lost my respect. I supported the Clintons for 8 years.. through thick and thin. But then I found through the primary process, I like Obama. It had nothing to do with disliking Hillary. It had everything to do with the direction I saw Obama going (talk directly with Iran... confronting our enemies politically is a sign of strength and wisdom, and his character shows he has the capability to do it.) So then, Hillary goes nuclear and smears Obama with negativity... and suddenly, I feel for the first time like a Hillary Hater. Suddenly, I understand why 47% of the electorate will never vote for her. I was angry when I saw the results... not that Hillary won, but how she won. I'm not an idiot, I can see through the smear. Get Real? Dems, Get real. She wins through slander and division... and that now tells me how she would lead our country. How does she expect to pull the world back together when she efectively divides the party? She already starts off with 47% of the electorate against her... to which she will also be fighting for 4 years if she is elected. I believe in Obama's message. and I believe he has the potential to unite the country without muddy politics. Does anyone know a republican who will cross over to vote for Hillary? Doe anyone think Texas will vote for Hillary in the general? And now she has the audacity to consider Obama as a nice running mate. My God, the hubris astounds me. Hillary, Get Real.
Come on, Obama, don't create another "red herring" to distract us from the fact that you have not visited 80 countries and worked with diplomats and ambassadors from all over the world; you have not worked to negotiate peace in Ireland; you did not travel to Kosovo and moderate negotiations there; and on and on, it goes.  Obama can not deny that Hillary's international experience is much deeper than his.  So far, his only claim to experience in this area is that he lived in Indonesia as a child; spoke out against the war in Iraq before he was even in office; and is bi-racial, which he claims makes him able to understand more cultures in the world,  Oh yes, his father was a Muslim, so that gives him credibility with the Muslim countries of the world.  In analyzing Obama's argument, he is using the common logical fallacy, "stacking the deck," which means he is ignoring all the other evidence to the argument and choosing only the evidence that makes him look good.  Come on, folks, let's use our critical thinking skills here!
Obama needs to concentrate on QUALITY of EXPERIENCE. Clinton has EXPERIENCE...on how to handle SCANDALS! Just cause someones been driving the bus longer, DOESN'T mean their a BETTER DRIVER! QUALITY! Practice DOESN'T make PERFECT...PERFECT PRACTICE makes PERFECT...nothing PERFECT about Mrs. Clinton.
Tit for tat, as they say. Two can play this game. Obama has little to fear from the tactics of putting it all out there, as the Clinton campaign keeps trying to generate baseless issues about Obama. Clinton's tactics were moderately successful in raising doubts about her opponent, even though their charges were paper-thin. Up to now, the Obama camp has steered mostly clear of directly voicing their concerns about Senator Clinton's ethics, but the squeaky wheel gets all the grease and all the attention, and when you examine the Clinton ethics, you find a bunch of five-alarm fires. So here goes. It's unpleasant, and some will decry the Obama camp's descent from above it all, but when the irritation persists, you apply the ointment.

This is not my preferred approach. I wish Senator Clinton had a little more talent for math, and would understand that she still cannot win with a purely honest and above-board approach, but there she is, playing the Politics of Fear as if she were one of Bill Kristol's best pupils, and we on the Obama side are going to face fear head-on.

Let's put all of the cards on the table, Senator Clinton. Let's get it all out there on both sides so we can take a good look. We've got nothing at all to hide, so we're not worried. How about you?
Voter's of Wyoming, You're not significant enough for Hillary to grace you with her presence.She will instead, send her VP, Bill( just like funerals)to speak her condolences for the Ass whipping she is about to receive there saturday.Hillary is telling Wyoming,, 4 days in advance, what she think's of their voter's.Mississippi voter's will come next tuesday, you're chance to become Insignificant as well.

Then about 5 week's will pass before the good voter's of Pennsylvania have their say in the Democrat race.Will they choose to be overcome with Fear, will they Not remember Impeachment, will they Not remember, Democrat's losing control of Congress, 2 year's into Bill's 1st term?Will all these Voter's turn a Blind Eye to the Excuse of Not having enough time to release Tax return's, but yet having enough time to go to New York to screw up one of America's favorite lines?Will all these voter's continue to Not ask, where's this 35 year's experience, what 3am crisis moment did You handle personally? Having admired Pennsylvania's voter's for sometime, especially seeing thru the charade of Rick santorum, i have No doubt, they will ask these Critical question's as well as asking Barack about what concern's they have of him.Having been a Steelerz fan since 1970, i know how tuff the Resident's of Pennsylvania are & will continue to be.
Reading the Peter Paul / Hillary Clinton news makes Senator Obama's dealings with Rezko trivial at best. And all this criticism about him going negative...jeeesh...in case you didn't know it, the Senator from Illinoise tried to keep it honorable but the Clinton machine started the lies and innuendos...so what's a man who wants to be a good President to do? He can't fight the lemmings that suddenly appeared in Ohio and Texas..and he certainly doesn't want to follow them over the cliffs!
the democratic primary will now be determined in denver, hillary will steal the nomination using dirty tactics, but she will not have 'won' anything, she won't be supported by her party and will lose the general election, this is not about hillary wanting the dem nomination anymore, it's become more about making sure obama doesn't get a chance to run for president, because hillary knows he could win and the corrupt clinton machine will not let that happen, the american people will be denied the leader they want and need for purely selfish reasons, such is the clinton legacy
The Press should be doing its job !!!  We can't rely on the candidates to expose themselves ... that's the job of the Media ... and they are failing miserably.  Is there any way to start a movement/petition/surge to insist that they get started NOW ?  They have delayed long enough.  We are supposed to have a free and fair press ... where are the investigative reporters??  We don't need more "spin" and "opinions" ... we need reporting that can be counted on to be "honest" and "impartial" !!  Does anyone have an answer??  


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