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The Clinton strategy

Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:35 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
The Clinton campaign held a conference call today to talk celebrate the New York senator's three wins last night, to talk about the importance of allowing the race for the nomination to continue and re-state their belief that Clinton has the best chance of holding up under Republican attacks without getting pushed off course.

Chief Strategist Mark Penn said he would put Wyoming and Mississippi, the next two states to vote, “in what I call the challenging category for us,” because Obama has “some very significant leads,” but he downplayed Mississippi in pushing the campaign's argument that Clinton does best in the states that matter, the blue states and noting that he couldn't remember the last time Mississippi went Democratic in a presidential race.

Top aide Harold Ickes predicted she would do well in Pennsylvania. “I think that we had what might be characterized as a dry spell for the last, prior to last night,” he said. “We think that we have turned the corner in the campaign. We think that the solid results of last night augur well for the future.”

He also noted he would leave the predictions to Penn, before going on to make predictions. “I think that she is going to do very, very well in Pennsylvania, for example,” Ickes said, “and she is going to continue to hold her own in a number of other states, to win some, to hold her own in others. Overall, she'll be adding to her count on delegates, and we expect that by the end of this, she and Sen. Obama will be very close to one another.”

Ickes argued Clinton could put together wins in states like Arkansas, New Mexico, Nevada, Iowa, Ohio and Florida to win enough electoral votes in a general election to clinch the presidency, and Penn said Clinton's strength among women and Latinos would help push her to victory as the nominee in November.

Penn said he believed the questions they had raised about whether Obama was truly committed to changing NAFTA had had a “significant impact” on the race in Ohio. When asked whether continuing to hit the Illinois senator on this and other issues to convince superdelegates he couldn't win in the general election would be palatable to Democrats, Ickes argued the point of the nominating process was to vet the nominee.

“The party is making the most important decision it makes,” he said, “that is who will be our nominee in the fall, and we have an obligation as delegates to that convention, of which I'm one, to make sure that we try to figure out who will be the strongest candidate to take on John McCain and the Republican attack machine, which will turn on full force once our nominee emerges. So this is not a question of trying to damage somebody; this is a question of trying to fully understand all of the particular aspects of each of the candidates.”

He further argued that Clinton had been vetted for the last 15 years and that too much was unknown about Obama. He raised questions once again about the Illinois senator's relationship with real estate developer Tony Rezko, who is on trial for corruption. Penn added that Obama's support had fallen significantly after only a few days of questioning on these issues.

On the issue of the superdelegates who could ultimately decide the nominee, Ickes argued they should wait and watch as the race develops.

“The uncommitted superdelegates, or automatic delegates, are standing back,” Ickes said. “They're keeping their powder dry, and they're watching this process unfold. I mean there's another 12 states to vote, another 600-plus delegates to elect, another three months to go before Puerto Rico finalizes the process, and there's a ways to-- they're watching and waiting.”

Penn would not give further comment on suggestions Clinton made this morning in television interviews that she might consider sharing the ticket with Obama.

The call began with statements by Sens. Evan Bayh of Indiana and Chuck Schumer of New York. Bayh pressed the importance of allowing the race to continue so that more people's voices can be heard. Indiana votes on May 6.

Schumer continued the fighting theme of recent days. “Hillary wins people over,” the senior senator from New York said. “She doesn't do it in a dramatic way. She doesn't do it, you know, with one speech or something like that. She rather just works and works and works and she focuses on things people care about; she knows how to talk to their concerns.”

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How does endorsing John McCain over Barack Obama for president, not once but TWO TIMES, factor into The Clinton Strategy?
The Obama campaign in Mississippi will hold a press conference later today in Jackson calling on U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton to explain derogatory statements made about Mississippi.
In October, Clinton told the Des Moines Register newspaper that "I was shocked when I learned Iowa and Mississippi have never elected a woman governor, senator or member of Congress. There has got to be something at work here…when you look at the numbers, how can Iowa be ranked with Mississippi? That's not what I see. That's not the quality. That's not the communitarianism. That's not the openness I see in Iowa.”
The Obama campaign will call on the Clinton campaign to explain these remarks and a pattern of dismissing Southern states throughout this campaign, according to a press release sent to Mississippi media organizations.
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/NEWS01/80305018
Clinton Strategy:  Cheat, lie and steal.

OTTAWA (Reuters) - The leak of information about Barack Obama's position on the North American Free Trade Agreement was "blatantly unfair" to his campaign, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said on Wednesday.


Harper said the government was mounting an "internal security investigation" to find out who leaked the information, which suggested Obama's campaign had said not to pay too much attention to his protectionist rhetoric on NAFTA.

"This kind of leaking of information is completely unacceptable and in fact ... it may well be illegal," the prime minister told Parliament.

"It is not useful, it is not in the interests of the government of Canada, and the way the leak was executed, Mr. Speaker, was blatantly unfair to Sen. Obama and his campaign."

These people are deeply troubled.

How many times have they said "SHE WILL DO VERY WELL" only to come out with ZERO delegate advantage?

Her first firewall- NH, ended up in a ZERO delegate advantage. Her second firewall- Super Tuesday, ended up with a ZERO delegate advantage- actually a minus. Her third firewall- TX and OH, ended up with 4 more delegates. Now, another firewall is Pennsylvania, where she'll likely end up with .... let me think- ZERO more delegates. Meanwhile Obama remains wide ahead with 156 delegates.

These people are really sick if they can't get it. Or perhaps they assume superdelegates and voters are fools. Obama will win all the states Democrats normally win and then he'll win Virginia, swing states and about two more red states to re-draw the political map.
These people are deeply troubled.

How many times have they said "SHE WILL DO VERY WELL" only to come out with ZERO delegate advantage?

Her first firewall- NH, ended up in a ZERO delegate advantage. Her second firewall- Super Tuesday, ended up with a ZERO delegate advantage- actually a minus. Her third firewall- TX and OH, ended up with 4 more delegates. Now, another firewall is Pennsylvania, where she'll likely end up with .... let me think- ZERO more delegates. Meanwhile Obama remains wide ahead with 156 delegates.

These people are really sick if they can't get it. Or perhaps they assume superdelegates and voters are fools. Obama will win all the states Democrats normally win and then he'll win Virginia, swing states and about two more red states to re-draw the political map.
Isn't Texas a republican state?  These people are unbelievable!
Does Penn truly believe that Hillary can win in the general election with a strong following of women and latinos?  He must be smoking something.
How about some tranparency?  Where's the Clinton's tax return? Seems like they're hiding something. Where's the records from her days as first lady? She said during the debate she authorized the white house to release them,and yet the white house stated they never heard from the clinton camp. Since she loaned her campaign 5million from a joint bank account, that brings into question the Clinton Foundation donor list. Who has donated and how much? What do they expect in return? That money would be in the account of the potential potus. what experience qualifies her to answer that phone at 3am? 35years of what type of experience? It seems like more questions than answers to me.
Hillary's strategy:

1)Create the illusion that she's won something big.

2)Try and create the illusion that she now deserves to
 be in control.

3)Try and cash in on Michigan's RACIST plot to help
 her cheat and get the illegal delegates.

4)Try and form an "alliance" with Barack to steal some
of his voters and delegates "A vote for me is a vote for Obama".  Barack, Don't fall for the "Dream Ticket trick",
at least until you have the rest of YOUR Delegates and
can pick the running mate.

5)On to Pennsylvania, another race-baiting state.

By that time, she will have her media exposure(no pun intended) the voters will be on to her and voila,
More delegates for Senator Obama.
Hillary is not only dividing the democratic party with her tactics, she is dividing the country!
i don,t know why thay don,t just pick a running mate say hilary picked richardson for vp she would win hands down
Hillary should fight in every state.  She should go toe to toe with Obama in Wyoming and Mississippi.  She should get rid of Mark Penn who was responsible for her big state strategy.  Had she fought she could have picked up a number of the twelve she lost after super Tuesday.  At a minimum she would not have lost as many delagates.  Penn statements to the media that Maria Doyle was responsible for Hillary's slide is simply fingerpointing by a paid political hack who accepts no responsibility.  The only way Hillary will lose is if she keeps taking advice from hacks like Penn.  Thank heaven for McAullife and Ickes.  Go Hillary Go.
Is anyone else not amazed at the obvious amnesia of our Country?

Consider just a few points regarding the Clintons of the past:

* White Water Scandal
* Monica Lowensky, Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones just to name a few.
* "Missing" documents suddenly materializing after enumerable requests.
* Impeachment.

Since Senator Clinton claims to be an integral party to to the former President's successes, she CANNOT be separated from his failures.

Now condiser the Clintons of today:

1. Their Senior Advisor, Terry McCauliffe, stated on Hardball today that the Democratic Rules should be followed, thus the Super Delegates should be allowed to sway the Democratic Nomination in the Clinton's favor, despite having NO mathematic possibility of overtaking Obama. "Those are the Democratic rules", he said.

2. 30 minutes later on Tucker, another surrogate, Kiki McClain, said that the Clintons WILL seek to sit the Florida and Michigan delegate, EVENTHOUGH the states acted OUTSIDE of the Democratic Rules.

3. No IMMEDIATE release of either their 2006 and 2007 Tax Returns or the First Lady's logs.

Does it still depend on "What the meaning of 'IS' is?

With suprising gullibility, we may be allowing the Clintons to "high-jack" the nomination!

Do we REALLY like them THAT much?

Are we truly THAT afraid of them?

Are we THIS gullible?

With all of the "FEAR" that was being thrown around last week by Hillary Clinton via her Red Phone AD, MY fear is that we will recover our collective memories MUCH too late, only to say to ourselves, "Oh yeah, those things really did suck!"

Maybe we want the "Glory Days" back again...
Ickes and others should be forwarned that if the superdelegates overturn the pledged delegates this party will lose in November. That will be the last straw for me and I will remove myself from the political process because I will have come to the realization that there is no party that will listen to me. I don't think I will be alone in this thinking!
It amazes me how Hillary, the media, and her supporters consistently and continuously think of her as a fighter.  A warrior is a fighter.  Is she a warrior?  I do agree with you all that she is a hard core-determined fighter.  That is why I do not believe that she truthfully plans on ending the war.  I think that she would like to stay in it for the long haul, regardless of the costs.  Her character and her demeanor backs this up.  She was pissed off when Pres. Bush went to another country to ask their leader to lower the price of their oil.  She said that he was begging.  Does that sound like a person who wants to bring a war to an end before the goal (whatever that is) is achieved?  Remember, Hillary grew up in a republican home.
Yeah Mr. Penn Arkansas,McCain, Florida McCain. Nevada McCain. Ohio a toss up. Iowa McCain. Why He will attract the centrist independents. Hillary will lose the Comander and Chief and Iraq argument.  The economy and an energetic voter base could help.  But without the Obama supporters in full bore she does not stand a chance.  Nice of her an her staff to continue to slam him on issues he has been vetted on.  By the way when ( on or around the 15th April) will we see the tax returns or her verification of experience in the white house.  Come on Hillary lead by example become transparent in yours and Bills financial dealings. All of us non important states will certainly back Hillary. Instead of sipping wine an champagne on the flight yesterday share your experience with us lowly voters.  
We know what the Clinton's strategy is -- more race-baiting.  It is beyond appalling that any Clinton, least of all a Democrat, would be using race-baiting to try to win an election, but that's exactly what the Clintons are doing.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/5/131156/5021/187/469677
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/5/14345/50395/126/469746
Hey Chuck Schumer nice pick on the Attorney General.  With that kind of judgment it looks like we will be invading Iran real soon.


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