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'Most secretive politician in America'?

Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:34 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan and Domenico Montanaro
The Obama campaign is stepping up the rhetoric. Campaign Manager David Plouffe went so far as to call Hillary Clinton the "most secretive politician in America today."

The tough talk underscored not only the negative shift in tone of the Obama campaign in the past 24 hours, but just how contentious this fight for the nomination is becoming.

Part of what the Obama campaign would like the focus to be on is ethics -- something adviser David Axelrod said they would be glad to have a debate over. But the Obama campaign may be a victim of time, since an argument on ethics could be tough to steer with the ongoing Rezko trial.

"I think that you know Sen. Clinton has talked a lot about disclosure in the last few days,” Plouffe told reporters. “Sen. Clinton is the most secretive politician in America today. This has been a pattern throughout her career of the lack of disclosure.”

Echoing Axelrod, Plouffe said the campaign would be more than willing to tangle with the Clintons, appearing to suggest that if needed they would raise issues like Whitewater that plagued the Clintons in the 90s.

"As it relates to ethics and transparency,” Plouffe said, “we're surprised that they would want to have an extended conversation about contributors and land deals and ethics issues. I don't think that's a lengthy conversation that's probably going to work out very well for them.

"So we are obviously not going to allow these attacks to go unanswered, and we think things like who has the strongest ethics, who has the chance to really bring about reform, who's going to be the most open with the American people that that's a real distinction," he said.

He added that because the Clinton campaign couldn't win on pledged delegates, it would try to devise "alternative nomination strategies." He added that the Obama campaign would fight back and "raise questions on things like disclosure, like ethics, like foreign policy."
 
He added that Clinton "exaggerated her experience and can't name anything she's done."

"The only thing she talks about, by the way, is a speech she gave in China,” Plouffe said. “She criticizes us for giving a speech. There's an exaggeration there. Her experience, they believe, is just conferred on her; we have to prove ours somehow. She is not a candidate with deep experience on these matters.”

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4HT  QUARTER PLAYOFF>>>> ...Hey Obama, don't forget Monica Lewinsky....
LOL why not just call it what it is...the media has their nose so far up this ladies behind it's amazing they don't aphyxiate when she farts.

How is it that she has gotten a free pass on her papers from the White House especially when she goes on these morning shows and make outlandish claims about her experience that she didn't have a clearance to be involved in the talks.

Hell, if Bill was disclosing this much information to her without clearance during pillow talk, what the hell was he giving Monica the one who was actually putting in the work, as far as classified information.

She hasn't been vetted not with rumours of her having communist ties, working for the Black Panthers, flunking law school and the bar exam.

This lady has rode on her husbands coat tails all the way to the White House. She has no experience this is just a distorted and twisted version of nepotism.

The media is going to give this train wreck a free pass, come on guys pull your heads out and do your jobs, she's not the first lady anywhere, she's just another lying politician.
Say no to Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton.  USA is not a Monarchy.

Go Obama or McCain !!!
The Clintons have fallen into Obama's trap. Now the can of worms will be opened for all to see and be reminded.
Obama has been playing Billary as fools and they have so far failed to see it. He has not only shown us all what the Clintons stand for, he has also made them look like kindergarteners in politics. They were warned! Remember the Chicago style politics? These people are so blinded by their selfishness they do not see how big the pit they've fallen into is. Plus you have that buffoon governor of PA trying to protect himself from going to jail over the Peter and Andrea Paul issue. I was a Hillary supporter but would sit on the fence if she wins this nomination, period!
Too bad Hillary had to play the "kitchen sink" strategy.  She seeems to have set the game rules, so I guess we'll show her we can play, too.  Isn't she the one who said, "This is the fun part."?  Have fun, Hillary.  We've only just begun.
I'm almost ashamed to be of the same gender and race as Hillary Clinton.  I hope the American citizens who vote will see through her nasty little smears and innuendos and recognize her for the dirty little sneak that she is.
I think the people of Ohio are stupid or gullable. Oh, yeah...I forgot..duh...most of them are poor and uneducated. They say they want change. They say they are tired of being ignored.  They say they want more jobs. If Hillary is the nominee, the Republicans will destroy her.

You see....it doesn't matter if you don't believe in Obama. The real issue is which Democrat has the best chance for the White House.  Poll after poll after poll show's Obama would be far more competitive than Hillary Clinton.  As of yesterday evening, even Karl Rove gave a mini presentation of how well each Democratic candidate would fare against McCain.  Obama would beat McCain.  

The people of Ohio won't get squat if McCain wins.  Haven't they had enough after 8 years.  Oh yeah.....their just stupid and uneducated. Now wonder Hillary won.
hillary fight for the people? yeah if you consider corporate law to be that.
Hey, Hillary, can we talk about that $170,000 donation you kept from the company that has dozens of sexual harrassment claims against them?  How about Whitewater?  How about your abject failure during your tenure as First Lady to accomplish ANYTHING on health care reform?  How about all the money that the drug company and health care lobbyists have been giving you?  Can we talk about that, huh?
Part of Hillaries race batting is using attack adds and darkening the pictures of obama and widening his nose.  There was a piece in dailykos on this.

BTW who is Peter Paul that has a lawsuit on the Clintons for fraud?
I am not really surprised First Read. I was a strong Hillary supporter last year and evenmockedmy buddies for supporting Obama.
A friend of mine challenged me to research on Hillary. I was shocked to uncover so many things that I did not imagine about her, and she tried to portray hersef as a candid and caring candidate in public. I found so many inconsistencies in her speches. Many of her attacks on Obama were refuted by fact checking sites like Fact Check.org. And her 35 years experience includes many scandalous activities.
So, I am not surprised if she is called the msot secretive candidate. Maybe she will follow Bush's actions and spy on us Americans.
It all boils down to this - If you want real, dramatic change, vote for Obama.  If you want real experience vote for McCain.  If you want a co-presidency, vote for Hillary.  The argument that Hillary offers change or the most experience simply doesn't fly.  
Hillary should change her campaign slogan to; "Buy one, get one free" since I can't tell Bill from Hillary anymore can you?
Sounds like a huge amount of sour grapes going on for the Obama supporters.  Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the rules are changed for Mich. and Florida, what can we say to other countries.  Oh by teh way when you are loosing, change the rules so things work out in your favor.  Ha Ha. Please help the United States of America. World Leader that's a laugh!
As long as the top two Dem candidates bash each other, the eventual loser is writing the campaign ads the Reps will use in the national election. they will say this is what memebrs of their own party think of the Dem nominee. I truly wish this would get cleaned up but we know HC will do or say anything to get elected and BO is "changing" before our eyes to compete with her. Sad indeed.
Hillary must be absolutely exposed for the entire world to see for who she really really is...together with her husband. This is crunch time and no holds barred for the Obama campaign. Obama just cannot let Hillbilly get away with all these mischievous and unfair campaign practices. Imagine that they even had to go to the extent of engaging the Canadian Government to do their dirty works for them. Remember that Bill has a strong financier from Canada and then look at the timing of the leak as well as the timing of the said interview with Obama's Campaign Advisor upon the instigation and invitation of the Canadian Government: this is unprecedented in international politics. It must expeditiously and thoroughly investigated and findings made public in a matter of days as well. That is the only way the Canadians can redeem their shattered image. Since the leak had an immediate impact on the American elections, it is only fair that the outcome of their investigation also has an immediate healing impact on the same elections...not afterwards please. All these high level stuff happened within just a matter of days and Obama had no chance at all to debunk anything.
Common Obama, put aside your gentleman gesture for once please, this is a man's fight now. In no way should Hillary be preferentially treated as a woman, but only as a Contestant which is all that matters now.
Also notice that in her phone Ad, the phone rings 6 times before she even picks it and still has nothing to say when she picks it-perhaps she is waiting for Bill to advice her first. If she is so great on national security, why didn't they arrest Osama during their presidency but instead bombed a pharceutical plant in Sudan? Why did they let the Rwanda genocide, the worst ever that world has ever experienced, happen? The American people have a right to know what her precise words or advice were in these two situations and many more like this!
Now Americans can fully understand why African leaders rig elections and commit all sorts of atrocities with the view to winning at all costs. But thank God that Hillary is not an African.

First anyone doing their taxes on the level of the Clinton's income, put off doing them to the last minute so they get the interest off the money they will be paying.

Second, releasing the returns will only yield negatives, Obama will look for anything, no matter how miniscule, to put a negative spin on.

So yeah, if I was in Clinton's shoes, i would put the whole thing off till April 15th.
Senator Obama-Please release the emails related to your deals with Tony Rezko.  Please release the real dialogue between your campaign and Canada related to NAFTA.  And finally, please tell us why you now feel you have the experience to be President of the US when you very clearly told the press shortly after you were elected to the Senate that it would be wrong to run in '08 as you certainly would not have adquate experience to be president.  I'd like to see you spin that, Sir.
What is the sum total of Hillary's 35 years of experience or John McCain's for that matter that has benefitted us? They are part of the old guard that doesn't recognize the needed changes in how this country is run. The problems we face have grown out of the inept governance of these old guard politicians who translate what they have done as positive experience for this country. If so, why are we in this mess? Also, what will Bill Clinton do as the First Man? Who will really run the country if Hillary is elected? Two presidents in the White House who are married...Hmmm. Who will manage their egos?

Obama is the fresh approach needed in this changing world! He is the one candidate who can make a difference for us ordinary citizens.
It is obvious that Hillary is trying all means to get on top. she is playing politics. the people should easily see that. American should open their eyes and see the truth. well i think they know the truth but hiding from fact.
Go OBAMA
like he said the world is watching.( am watching from far)
You have my special support.
Obama tells you what you want to hear! And he's obviously a whimp! You can tell in his tone of voice. Hillary showed that she is a tough woman, tougher than him. Lets face it we need change in America but we dont want the world to think that were a push over either. Watch any debate and he stands there like a lost boy. Lets face it America he is still green behind the ears to run the country. Give him some time in his senate position and he will get smarter. And maybe if he doesnt self destruct himself in this election, we can use him later!

Plus, he talks about the war vote! Only because he wasnt there to vote! If he was there he would have felt the pressure like EVERYONE ELSE DID AND VOTED TO GO TO WAR!! You so called Americans forget your own out cry in the begginning of the Sept 11th attack. Now you all sit there and condemn it! War is real and its not a game and I think the American people thought that this would end overnight! Wishful thinking!
I am a Democrat but actually I feel sorry for Mr Bush. Because just like I stated above everyone has bailed on him, even his own party! Americans want quick and easy answers and what it really takes is hard work!

And one more thing for all you lame heads! There is not to many people that make six figure or higher salaries due there taxes until the deadline. DAH!!!!!!!!!!! And I wouldnt either!! The Clintons will show there finacial status just like most Americans, April 15Th!!!
The Hill-Supporters need to get a clue. Hill and Bill have TONS of dirt. They have opened a HUGE can of worms and thats why she is now trying to say lets talk ticket.
Obama camp has been nice but now its time to close the door.
has anyone looked at NAFTA memo again?? Seems The Clintons were the ones doing the wink-wink
It is obvious that Hillary is doing everything to win. all her speeches is just to get delegates. its not from the heart.American cant you see the person thats going to make great and positive changes?
like he said the world is watching.(am watching from far)
  GO OBAMA.
hope you get there.
I live in Delaware and when our primary was going on, the only negative material I received was from Obama, he sent us two negative ad's about Hillary by mail, nothing about his own ideas. I also got one piece from Hillary explaining her Health care reform policy. Who is negative, what is Obama about? Look into Michelle Obama's dealings.
I cant resist this one I'm sorry: Hillary did get a couple of 3:00 Am phone calls while Bill was president." Yo Hillary this is Bill I will be home as soon as Little Bill's Work is done." please forgive me for that stupid joke but that is another show of lack of judgement on her part . To stay with an Habitual Cheater just for Political Gain.
Oh! Yeh! It's frightening to make a wrong decision while awake...(Iraq?). claiming to make right decision @ 3am???
THERE'S NO SECRET ABOUT WHO CLINTON THE DUMPSTER DOG HAS JUST GOTTEN OUT OF BED WITH AT 3 A.M., FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT'S NOT INFORMED: IT'S OVERDOSED ORCA, RUSH LIMBAUGH! WHO'S ADMITTED FEARING OBAMA'S CANDIDACY (CAN'T BEAT HIM IN G.E.), AND HAS EMPLOYED HIL-LIAR-RY (NO PROBLEM BEATING IN G.E.)  TO DO THE REPS. DIRTY WORK! ORCA WANTS DUMPSTER DOG TO BLOODY OBAMA! TUNE IN TO FOX NEWS.COM AND LOOK UNDER MOST VIEWED VIDEOS! HIL-LIAR-RY HAS SOULED OUT TO THE REPUBLICANS. HER NEW CAMPAIGN STRATEGY: IF YOU CANT BEAT EM, JOIN EM!
If Hillary win, this would be great for Bill. That way he could engaged in sexual misconduct without the scrunity
wake up America!! the question is how many jobs have Senator Obama help bring to chicago as a state senator or u.s.a. senator? can somebody please tell me about it. Remember these words " it's not what  the country can do for you, it's what obama has done for his state. nothing, that's exactly what's he's going to do for you. the republicans don't have anything else to throw at Hillary, for the last 15 years she has endured everything they got.Obama will not be able to stand the heat coming at him from the republicans.
Hillary is secretive? LOL. The newsmedia loves Obama. All you have to do is read all of the articles and watch the news.

Hillary "slings mud" at Obama
Obama up's his "criticism" at Clinton.

Hillary "lies".
Obama "misspeaks"

Hillary "goes negative".
Obama "heavily criticises".

Hillary "spreads fear" by reminding Americans that there is a real terrorist threat.
Obama "gives hope" by embracing the idea that there is no threat to America? Really?

Hillary "covers up" something by not releasing tax returns.
Sorry, would like to put something in here about Obama but no one in the news media will even talk about Obama's involvement with political fixer Tony Rezco.




Hillary is secretive? LOL. The newsmedia loves Obama. All you have to do is read all of the articles and watch the news.

Hillary "slings mud" at Obama
Obama up's his "criticism" at Clinton.

Hillary "lies".
Obama "misspeaks"

Hillary "goes negative".
Obama "heavily criticises".

Hillary "spreads fear" by reminding Americans that there is a real terrorist threat.
Obama "gives hope" by embracing the idea that there is no threat to America? Really?

Hillary "covers up" something by not releasing tax returns.
Sorry, would like to put something in here about Obama but no one in the news media will even talk about Obama's involvement with political fixer Tony Rezco.




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All anyone has to do to find out Hillary's record in the senate is to go to the  library  of congress website, Y ou'll find out that she did introduce a lot of legislation but none of it went anywhere (no sponsors or support). Now, look a little further at Obamma's record. nuf said.
Hillary.  Experience?  When she campaigned here in Iowa, all we heard was that she had 35 years of experience serving the america public.  Not once was any of that experience detailed.  Please, Ms Clinton, give us an exact accounting of what and when and for how long so we can judge for ourselves how much experience you have.  Just listening to sound bites that you have experience in no way allows us to judge.  Oh, by the way, the same could be asked for from Obama.
the Obama camp should take a look at the past of Obama. he lied in his own auto- biography, so he isn't mr. clean by any stretch of the imagination. he hasn't shown anything he's accomplished that is so special. it's time to get our jobs back in this country and start working on what this country used to be. UNITED !!!!! Obama does not have the background to do it. WE better wake up America.
 under bill clinton we as a nation went from  factory work to info and service to make money. we are now 80% service. jobs are gone so who is going to pay for this mess. wall street gave money to hillary. then she turn on them. so what do you think she will do to us.    
As far as i can see the "Rezko/Obama scandal is a non-issue. Last time I checked property sales did not come with a financial disclosure form that laid out the sellers current financial obligations. You simply traded the funds and signed the deed over. If the Obama's were implicated in buying massive amounts of property than that would be one thing. But a strip of land adjacent to their property to expand their propety? How desperate and pathetic is the Hillary campaign. Let me just tell you that as a life long Republican I will be supporting Obama because he is the only canidate with any form of integrity left.


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