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Clinton camp urges Obama to be positive

Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:55 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
In what may be a sign of an increasingly negative campaign, the Clinton camp held a conference call Thursday to criticize Obama for attacking the New York senator -- using what they called "Republican talking points" and to challenge him to address the issues they've raised about his readiness to handle national security and economic issues.

Communications Director Howard Wolfson accused Obama of "imitating Ken Starr" in his attacks on Hillary, and senior adviser Ann Lewis began the call with a statement that raised questions about Obama's claim he would offer a new kind of politics.

"One day after losing elections in Ohio and Texas, where the debate centered on issues of the economy and national security, the Obama campaign has apparently decided that instead of addressing these issues, they're going to focus on attacking Hillary Clinton. I did not realize that their version of new politics is to recycle some of the same old Republican attacks on Hillary that have failed for years. This new strategy, I've gotta say, suggests a campaign that is unable to make the positive case," she said.

Lewis asked why Obama would not address his failure to hold hearings as chair of a Senate subcommittee on European affairs and to offer solutions on the economy, both issues the Obama campaign has addressed through statements and policy papers.

She said Clinton's rival had been using negative mailers against Hillary on health care and NAFTA for weeks and called his criticisms on trade agreement misleading and "particularly ironic given what we now know" about his economic adviser meeting with Canadian representatives.

In response to this conference call, Obama spokesman Bill Burton replied with this statement: “It is absurd that after weeks of badgering the media to ‘vet’ Senator Obama, the Clinton campaign believes that they should be held to an entirely different standard.  We don’t believe that expecting candidates for the presidency to disclose their tax returns somehow constitutes Ken Starr-tactics... And if Senator Clinton doesn’t think that the Republicans will ask these very same questions, then she’s not as ready to go toe-to-toe with John McCain as she claims.”

On the call, the Clinton campaign also announced having raised $3 million online in the 24 hours following Tuesday's wins, and Wolfson took a stab at predicting which states the New York senator would perform well in in the upcoming contests.

"I think Kentucky, West Virginia, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Puerto Rico are all states where we believe we have a chance to do well in. And then, I think, we've all heard and read about the increasing possibility that there may be some additional activity in Florida and Michigan. And, of course, given the results of the primaries that occurred there, we would feel good about our prospects in those states," he said.

When pressed for more comment on Florida and Michigan, Wolfson restated the campaign's position that voters in those states had spoken and their delegations should be seated and said they were following the conversations about re-doing votes in those states "with interest." He would not comment on the possibility that Michigan could hold a caucus.

The aides were challenged about the fairness of their raising questions about Obama and arguing that he was recycling Republican talking points and Lewis responded that Obama had focused on personal attacks.

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Hillary will take Michigan and Florida.It is not Clinton's faul that Obama took his name of the ballot in Michigan.Yet another rookie mistake.

Move over Obama. The Clinton machine is going to run you over on their way to the white house.

What a load of garbage, I'm so sick of HRC and her lies.

And I voted for Bill twice, but HRC campaigning just like the RNC.
Uh, I don't get it.

She's allowed to get negative but she is asking Obama to  stay positive.

Or, does her campaign strategy again seek to change with the wind?

Don't get me wrong, I would love a totally positive campaign that focuses on the issues.  However, both parties have to abide by that because UNFORTUNATELY too many people in America seem to pay more attention to negative ads (blame yourself people in America who don't research the facts).

Clinton, whose campaign motto should be.  Our message is like the weather in San Francisco; it changes from minute to minute.

Obama 08
So I guess the Clinton Campaign is still PIMPING Chelsea throughout America.  How pathetic.  It's disgusting that the only way the Clinton's think they can win is to PIMP thier daughter out.  Hillary Clinton is a pathetic loser.
Whitewater, Travelgate, Lewinsky, impeachment. Would another Clinton presidency result in more scandals? After over 7 years of the scandalous Bush adminstration, we Americans are sick and tired of being bogged down in scandals.
Is this a joke? How idiotic does Hillary (and her camp) think Americans are? After the vicious attacks she's inflicted on Obama, she's going to complain about negativity?? Maybe this should be SNL's next "hilarious" skit.
Look, we know what they're going to say.  Here it is:

1) "let's just all get along."
2) "we want this to be a positive campaign (Huggable Hillary).
3) "we weren't going negative in Texas, we were just "highlighting legitimate differences on issues."
4) "let's make this about issues, not about personalities."

and, of course...
5) "what ever happened to hope."

NOW, Obama needs to recognize that we're going to hear those 5 things over the next 7 weeks (they're as predictable as the sun rising in the morning).  And he needs to turn it around on her.  

Hope allows you to fight.  Hope allows you to be strong.  Hope allows you to win.

I believe that one of Obama's problems with white men is that they don't think he's strong enough.  You'd never hear this in a mainstream interview, but I guarantee there's talk on the assembly lines of "that woman is tougher than he is."

That needs to end.  He needs to stand up for himself, give her some of her own medicine, and KNOCK OUT the reigning champion.  No more Mr. Nice Guy.  Let the Clinton-flacks whine on this website and be ready for the 5 responses listed above.  But start SWINGING.  She's "tough."  She should be able to take it.
Turns out Obama was telling the truth about NAFTA-gate, but the media let themselves get whipped around by the Clinton camp, which peddled these lies.  Now, it turns out, it was ACTUALLY a Clinton aide, who was heard by numerous people, saying that Clinton wouldn't really do it.  And the government has said the memo about an "Obama aide meeting" was inaccurate.

Media?  Apology please?  I expect Hillary to both reject AND denounce her lies, and apologize for throwing filthy mud that reaked of lies at Obama.


I'm equally disgusted by the gall of the Clinton campaign to suggest that Obama stay positive and not question Hillary on ethics, considering that the Clinton campaign just spent the past two weeks lambasting Obama with disgusting lies and character assassinations...
Clinton Camp must be kidding!! They can lie about Naftagate (MSNBC: PLEASE FOLLOW UP ON THIS STORY!) and ram him into the ground, but they have no right to question her "35 years of experience?" Hey Hillary, it's time for you to GET REAL!
Personal attacks?  Kind of like the way she insinuated that he was Muslim?  And do you really want to bring up Kenneth Starr?  That's just going to remind everyone about the ugliness that was the Clinton years.
Hey Obama, howzaabout questioning Hillary's judgment in making her candidacy about national security and experience issues, when McCain would eat her alive in the general election on those same issues?

That says plenty about Hillary's judgment.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

looks like the Hillary campaign has a scandal on the Horizon, they called the Canadian government about NAFTA... a Clinton, scandal,.. no way!!

I thinks it's cute that Hillary wants to be the only mud slinger in the race. Is it just me or does Hillary Clinton whine allot.. first questions in debate, media bias, Obama supporters are being mean to me, why cant i be the only one slinging mud..  

Has she always been like this??
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

looks like the Hillary campaign has a scandal on the Horizon, they called the Canadian government about NAFTA... a Clinton, scandal,.. no way!!

I thinks it's cute that Hillary wants to be the only mud slinger in the race. Is it just me or does Hillary Clinton whine allot.. first questions in debate, media bias, Obama supporters are being mean to me, why cant i be the only one slinging mud..  

Has she always been like this??
Sometimes the goose crys foul when it sees the sauce coming that it spread on the gander.  The whole "I've been vetted" argument breaks down when you consider questions that were never answered, and, questions since like the '06 and '07 tax returns, foreign money that has funded the Clinton Library, etc.  I thought the standard announced by the Clinton Campaign was we must go as far as the Repulicans will to find out if the nominee can stand up to it.  They are right.  Welcome to the bigs Hillary.  
Where is Obamas mama? Or Daddy for that matter? Is he parentless or something? I dont believe his autobiography?
Drug use, race baiting, "not as far as I know", xenophobia, red phone, ect ect ect........She started it and now she wants to complain?  
Clinton and her campaign staff are a bunch of bullies.  This statement proves that they can dish it out but they can't take it.  Cry babies!  Sissy cry babies!  The Republicans will eat her for lunch!
Boy, is that the pot-smoker's wife calling the kettle Obama!
Senator Obama, what does the Clinton campaign know? Don't take any advice from them. They're idiots, otherwise Hillary would have already had this thing wrapped up. They are mean spirited bullies.  

The "establishment" is now out to get you. Don't take the bait. Fight Michigan and Florida.  Hillary Clinton agreed to the terms last year. She's losing so she's changing the rules. Don't let her.
You got to be kidding me! The Clinton campaign is urging Obama to stay positive???? Obviously Howard Wolfson, Sentor Clinton are living in alternate universe. I am disgusted by their tactics as of late and believe their is a growing coalition of democratic voters who will opt out the voting process come November if Hillary Clinton continues to manipulate her way to becoming the nominee and indeed gets the nomination from all of her dirt kicking, temper tantrum, condescending tactics. Her ambition is blind and she and Howard Wolfson, et. al will be responsible for splitting the democratic party. Mark my words.
I would love to have been in on that conference call. Could you hear the reporters laughing out loud?
When are you going to cover the real story, how Clinton was the one actually telling the Canadians to take their campaign statements with a "grain of salt"?  How you allowed what was a story about the Clintons turned into a story about Obama is the real story, that and media gullibility. You just gave TX and Ohio to the Clintons.  Great work!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home?cid=al_gam_mostview
Oh boy, this has got to be the most stupid comment and positions of all stupid comments and positions. The Clinton camp asking Obama to be positive. This after Hillary and her camp has spent the last few weeks bashing Obama with negative ads and campaign stump speeches. It is difficult to type anymore. I am ROFLA (rolling on the floor laughing my ass off).

Ok Obama, win or lose, the heck with Hillary and the heck with trying to maintain peace in the Dem party. It is time to start doing some heavy bashing yourself and to fling the mud as hard as you can. Reem her a new one Obama. Give McCain as much ammunition as you can on Hillary.  
The Clinton people do realize that Puerto Rico isnt a state right?

And someone should also tell them that those people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

How can she run attacks on Obama, and then have the gall to tell him he needs to remain positive?

After Bill's presidency, i never thought i'd say this, but the Clintons, and mainly Hillary, will be the ones who will bring down the democratic party this November.

Hillary is opitome of hypocrisy!!  She is allowed to use Rovian tactics on Obama, but when Obama just asks to see her tax returns and White House papers relating to her "experience" in the 90's, now he is supposedly the negative one.

You like hypocrisy people, you can have all you ever wanted with a Hillary Clinton White House.

I would also like to ask these poor factory workers who are losing their jobs what they really think Hillary is going to do for them.  She not only didn't create jobs in NY, she lost thousands of jobs.  Not only that, but she thinks people making over $100k are the middle class.  For some reason, I don't think people losing their factory jobs are making $100k a year.
Clinton, whose campaign motto should be.  Our message is like the weather in San Francisco; it changes from minute to minute.
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Clinton's message is do what ever it takes to win. Let somebody else be the nice guy.

Obama has himself backed up in a corner. He can't come out swinging because it will be "silly season".That will make him look like every other politician. So what Obama has to do is stand there and take it like a man. Let the Clinton machine run over you.

If Obama thinks clinton is being "negative" he is clearly not ready to take on the GOP.

Clinton 08
HRC has GOT to be kidding if she thinks that she'll win in November after the way she has disenfranchised more than half of the country.  Since when does the country only count when it's FOR you???  

Anyone that truly believes this lying, do anything to win, cheater should run our country is delusional.  

If we want a Republican in the White House for the next 4 years, go ahead and vote for Hillary.
Does BO have more information than Ken Starr on Whitewater, Travelgate, Lewinsky or is he just throwing the kitchen sink?  And why is Lewinsky relevant to HRC?  

Can he not even come up with an original strategy or is this another "I agree with Hillary" moments?
HRC it turns out was the campaign that tried to reassure the Canadian Gov over NAFTA not Obama. This is coming out now after Ohio, how very convenient...The MSM needs to pick this up and run with it.  If the articles on this have validity HRC's camapign basically told a bald faced lie then tried to pin it on Obama which resulted in likely a 3 to 4 point swing in both states...as for vetted please, tax returns, dodgy contributions, Bill's sudden upswing in stocks, experience in foreign policy total crock she less of a clearance than I soldier graduating from boot camp.  Spin this any way you wish bottom line that NAFTA thing was false accusation and it cost Obama huge tuesday.
Obama needs to SLAM her back and say that comparing him to Ken Starr is a personal slander against Obama, just as comparing him to George Bush was.  

SLAM her back.  Don't let them get away with this.  If you do, you're going to lose Barack.

Obama, please use some of the $150M we've given you and hire a guy who's as nasty a junkyard dog as Howard Wolfson.
NAFTAgate was WRONGLY attibuted to Obama? EXPOSE THIS MSM!  

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/nafta-gate-upda.html

That is was a CLINTON aid winking and nodding?  That the Clinton camp LIED and SMEARED Obama to cover their own butts?  American politics at its best.  Shame on you, Hillary Clinton!  Shame on you!
What a loser Hillary is! She can dish out anything to Sen. Obama and he is supposed to constantly turn the other cheek as he has been doing?
Hopefully, the meek shall inherit the earth. Jesus turned the other cheek  too and he did inherit the earth.
Sierra, his parents are both deceased. Were you quoting someone? Sounded pretty disrespectful.
Mark Murray, I do not usually make requests like this one on the blogs, but you guys over at First Read need to really look into this story about the real story of NAFTA-gate.  The full memo was released today and what Goolsbee is quoted as saying in that memo is exactly what Sen. Obama's position has been all along on the campaign trail.  The story broke last night in the Canadian Press and I would love to know how a story about an aide from the Clinton campaign calling the Canadians and assuring them to take her anti-NAFTA talk with "a grain of salt," turns into a story about Sen. Obama.  You guys in the MSM may have cost Sen. Obama votes in the state of OH and TX for getting this story all wrong, and now you guys need to correct it.  The Canadian Press is ahead of you guys in telling the real story, so I expect our press here in America to do the same.
Hillary, you should be ashamed of yourself.  You can dish it out but you can't take it.  I would suggest we dwell on WATERGATE for a while. I am from Florida and I am set against any type of re-do.  You are dividing the Democratic party, but I guess this does not matter to you because you are selfish.  So far the only foreign policy that I know that you have had a say in was Iraq and you said "yes". All those lives lost.  How do you sleep at night?
Hillary will take Michigan and Florida. Patty,sd,ca

It does not matter. Let her have Florida and Michigan and Pennsylvania. She still couldn't catch Obama in the delegate count and Obama still beats Mccain by 12 points while Hillary runs more even with McCain. The Dem party bosses see the handwriting on the wall. They are just giving Hillary a little time to get the hot air out before the nomination is given to Obama.
Hey Hillary.  When you throw you should be ready to catch.  You have been throwing alot of dirt.  One of you major claims is how vetted you are.  The questions Obama is raising will be raised by Republicans. You are supposed to be able to handle it. Stop scapegoating and release your tax returns Obama has.
Here's the link to the original story regarding NAFTAGate via TPM: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home

First Read, I'd personally like to hear you guys weigh in on this one.
What a loser Hillary is! She can dish out anything to Sen. Obama and he is supposed to constantly turn the other cheek as he has been doing?
Hopefully, the meek shall inherit the earth. Jesus turned the other cheek  too and he did inherit the earth.
Clinton and her campaign staff are a bunch of bullies.  This statement proves that they can dish it out but they can't take it.  Cry babies!  Sissy cry babies!  The Republicans will eat her for lunch!
Andrew Mason (Sent Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:08 PM)

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Clinton has managed to make herself the victim while her people play the bullies.

Too bad, so sad for Obama.

Move over Obama. The Clinton machine is going to run you over on their way to the white house.
Hello Obama campaign, here's a little primer on how to compete against the Clintons.  You may not like this, but here's what you have to do:

In response to the Ken Starr comment, you must immediately hold your own conference call and say with anger and indignation:

We are OUTRAGED that a fellow member of the Democratic Party would dare to attempt to link us to Ken Starr.  We are raising legitimate points about the issues.  If Senator Clinton and her campaign don't want to discuss those issues, that is something the voters should take into consideration.  But to attempt to link our campaign to the slander perpetuated by Ken Starr is slanderous in itself.  We WILL NOT STAND FOR IT.

Come on Axelrod.  Do your job.
Clinton's campaign has been nothing but negative.  She has been attacking Obama since day one, while he remains focused on the task at hand; winning the nomination.

Clinton has also been very "un-presidential" with her complaining.  I'm sorry if she "always gets the hard questions first," but when she's actually in office she will always be the one who gets the hard questions first.  Do yourself a favor Clinton, and stop whining; because there's no room for that in the Whitehouse.
I myself am a liberal Republican from NY. At first I was taken back and got really into the debates and primaries between Hill and Obama. But this past Tues while watching I realized something. That even if I might have thought about voting for Obama or Clinton, what is the point. The fact of the matter is that if they can not unify there party then how can we actually get matter moving in the White House. Between the two I think Obama is very inspiring, but the fact remains that the democrats are divided...once again. I think that she is really just dragging this whole process out. People are interested right now, but come Nov all the republicans have to do is expose the holes that are being seen now in both camps. Keep in mind they are running against John McCain, who is basically a Democrat! I just think that it is a shame that Hillary waited this long to get negative. The party will explode, it is a matter of time.
What Clinton has thrown at Obama is a speck of dust compared to the mud the Republicans will fling. Obama followers who are crying now ain't seen nothin' yet. Hillary's positions are absolutely justified - he isn't prepared to answer the 3 a.m. red phone which was confirmed by Rice, his national security advisor in an interview. Her statement basically was that "neither one (meaning Clinton or Obama) is prepared to answer the phone". Well, she can't speak for Clinton, but I do believe she knows Obama as well as anyone, so if she says he's inexperienced and unprepared that's good enough for me!
I think Hillary Clinton's supporters should look at the negative comments and ads againt Barack Obama instead of crying about Obama defending himself. It is time Hillary's baggage came out as she has insisted trashing Obama.

Go Obama!!!! Bring it all out
I voted for Bill twice, and can't ever conceive of voting for Johnny McWar, but the more I see of the Clinton folks, the less I like them.
Pia,
That all sounds wonderful when we're in church on Sunday.  Jesus never said anything about inheriting American politics though and the meek certainly do not do that.  He needs to fight, he needs to fight hard, and he needs to knock her out.  

The ONLY way you stop a bully is by standing up to her.
So, I see that the Clinton Campaign is repeating the NAFTA accusations even after they have been debunked, Canada's PM has apologised and said it was blatantly unfair to one campaign, and it was Clinton giving reassurances to Canada.
Sometimes the goose crys foul when it sees the sauce coming that it spread on the gander.  The whole "I've been vetted" argument breaks down when you consider questions that were never answered, and, questions since like the '06 and '07 tax returns, foreign money that has funded the Clinton Library, etc.  I thought the standard announced by the Clinton Campaign was we must go as far as the Repulicans will to find out if the nominee can stand up to it.  They are right.  Welcome to the bigs Hillary.  
He says he's going to change things, but never says what or how.
He says we should have "hope," but never says whet we should hope-for.
Then he gets people to chant "yes we can" like mind-controled lemmings, but they never say what they "can" do...
He started attacking Hillary 5 months ago with NEO-CON thrtoric that we heard back in the 1990's and when she hits him back with questions about his own ethics....he whines like a little schoolgirl.
If Obama can't stand the heat he needs to either drop out of the race or stop with the dirty campaigning. This sort of thing isn't any different than the kind of politics offered up by any other candidate.
Change?... MY REAR END!

HILLARY CLINTON FOR THE PEOPLE!


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