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McCain gets testy with the press

Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:38 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Bethany Thomas
What began as a typical chat session with traveling reporters on the plane from Atlanta to New Orleans quickly became a testy exchange with McCain. The senator was questioned on the details of a conversation with former presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004 about being his potential running mate. 

The topic came up earlier this morning during a town hall at the headquarters of Chic-Fil-A, where an employee asked if McCain would consider John Kerry as a running mate for this election cycle. 

McCain answered in Atlanta that his and Kerry’s political views are too different. “I just totally disagree with them,” McCain said. “He is a liberal Democrat... I am a conservative Republican. When we had that conversation in 2004, that’s why I never even considered such a thing.”

Pressed further aboard the plane by a reporter as to whether he did in fact have a conversation with Kerry, McCain showed his infamous temper. 

Elisabeth Bumiller of the New York Times asked, “Senator, can I ask you about Senator Kerry. I just went back and looked at our story, the Times story, and you told Sheryl Stolberg that you had never had a conversation with Kerry about being about vice president...”

McCain testily replied, “Everybody knows that I had a private conversation. Everybody knows that. That I had a conversation. There’s no living American in Washington -- that knows that, there’s no one.”

Bumiller: “Okay.”

McCain: “And you know it, too. You know it. So, I don’t even know why you ask.”

Bumiller: “Well, I ask because I just read…”

McCain: “You do know it. You do know it.”

Bumiller: “Because I just read in the Times in May of ’04 you said….”

McCain: “I don’t know what you may have read or heard of, I don’t know the circumstances. Maybe in May of '04 I hadn’t had the conversation…”

Bumiller: “But do you recall the conversation?”

McCain: “I don’t know, but it’s well known that I had the conversation. It is absolutely well known by everyone. So do you have a question on another issue?”

Bumiller: “Well can I ask you when the conversation was?”

McCain: “No. nope, because the issue is closed as far as I’m concerned. Everybody knows it. Everybody knows it in America.”

Bumiller: “Can you describe the conversation?”

McCain: “No, of course not. I don’t describe private conversations.”

Bumiller: “Okay. Can I ask you…”

McCain: “Why should I? Then there’s no such thing as a private conversation. Is there (inaudible) if you have a private conversation with someone, and then they come and tell you. I don’t know that that’s a private conversation. I think that’s a public conversation.”

Bumiller: “Okay. Can I ask you about your (pause) Why you’re so angry?”

McCain: “Pardon me?”

Bumiller: “Nevermind, nevermind.”

McCain: “I mean, it’s well known. Everybody knows. It’s been well chronicled a thousand times. John Kerry asked if I would consider being his running mate.”

Bumiller: “Okay.”

McCain: “And I said categorically no, under no circumstances. That’s very well known.”

The 2004 New York Times piece in question ends in this way: "If Mr. McCain is offered the vice-presidential spot, people close to Mr. Kerry say, the request will come from the candidate himself and not through the campaign's vice-presidential vetting process."

"Asked if Senator Kerry had made such an offer, Mr. McCain said no without hesitation. But asked if the two men had ever discussed it, even casually, he paused for a moment. 'No,' he said finally. 'We really haven't.'" 

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How can it not be perfectly understandable that McCain would be irritated? The only reason the reporter was edging him on was to make a scene, and any actual human would be just as irritated at someone trying to make them look bad.

And all the posters saying, 'oh that's really presidential' or 'that's just the kind of crazy we need' --- We'll have to agree to disagree. Because I don't want someone who just tries to play nice with everyone and says what everyone wants to hear. That's not leadership.

Have you ever noticed that in ANY form of leadership EXCEPT politics, a "good leader" is someone who can deal with unpopular decisions and occassionally be the "bad guy" for the sake of keeping a company/organization/etc on its feet? Why is the President, who runs the biggest company of them all, supposed to be sugar-coated?

But you don't someone who's OK with being the bad guy and isn't afraid to be human. You want someone like Obama, who thinks he's a prophet, not a human, who makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, and who plays to your emotions with speeches and slogans. ---- Like when he spoke to a mostly black audience in Selma, AL on how civil rights marches there allowed his parents to meet and have a child despite adversity and hatred ...... even though he was born in 1961 and the marches in Selma weren't until 1965. But you don't care, the point is his message was inspirational, right?

McCain has a backbone, and I know most of you democrats don't know what a backbone is, so drop by wikipedia and type it in; you might learn something.
'I'm a moderate republican and i think obama should be indidted for doing business with a slum lord..."


When Bush and Cheney get indicted for Constitutional and war crimes.

Moderately honest (Sent Friday, March 07, 2008 2:24 PM)

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Sure ... when pigs fly.
Hey you kids, get off my plane!  And keep your meddling Bumiller away from me.
"My Grandpa used to get like this.  We just left him alone with his bottle of Crown for a while, and he was ok after a while." – Ron Hussein

That’s a nice story, Ron, but do we REALLY want to leave McCain "alone for a while" with his bottle of Crown and his hand on “the button” … or maybe on that red telephone?  
It's OK to lie if you're a Republican.
(Subset of IOKIYAR).  

To the flute who called McCain "a real man":

Hillary is a real woman and I'm not voting for her either.

BTW:  Did you read in the papers, real man/boy, about Dinky the Singing Dingo...

Any relation?

Tim, that's the problem.

Your party is always trying to prove you have backbone. How tough you are. When in reality, what you really have is ignorant, old fashioned ways of looking at the world.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld - backbone? Try stupidity. And profiteers. They should all be in jail.
First the NYT story about an alleged affair with a lobbyist 8 years ago, based all on anonymous sources.

Now this story about John Kerry's solicitation of the man as his running mate 4 years ago.

Maybe if he's lucky, the MSM will be posing questions to McCain about relevent events in 2008 sometime next year, long after they've railroaded their lover-boy Obama into the White House.

And can you blame him for being 'testy'? If I were to ask Chuck Todd about a conversation he had with someone who had asked him to be his roommate 4 years ago, and asked it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...only to interject 'Why are you so angry?'.......Get the point?

Why not press him on relevant issues that voters care about instead of irrelevant rumors from years ago that nobody cares about?

At least TRY to appear impartial, for Christ's sake.
john j/ texas- that might be one of the best articles i have seen that goes right to the meat of this election, it would be well advised to try and get as many people as possible to read it. makes everything seem so much clearer.
From the Hillary Clinton campaign playbook –

The first rule of politics is that there are no rules in politics.  
 Hillary is a real woman, as far as I know.
Kerry is doing what his wife says and is supporting Obama.Obama's wife was on board of Kerry's wifes company.No wonder these guys are so anti Hillary there womwn make them tow the mark and they take it out on Hillary. What a lark!Obamas wife wanted that house she would do anything to get it.Something like this political race.Thus Obama had that knuckle boned moment of bad judgement takeing judgement off the platform of his campaign. Course he can still ascertain he has the right to be the one to be president and in charge of that famous button.OOps pressed wrong one.How many times did he do that while learning?3 I think.What 3 countries will he do in while learning.But not to fear he will unite the rest. They will be to afraid of him to not listen.point that thing somewhere else!!Man he's the greatest!But HE will do it with a smile!!
Moderate Republican out to figure out it is not against the law to "Do business" with a slumlord. People don't get "indidted" [sp] for having done business with slumlords.  
you might learn something.
Tim, Mobile (Sent Friday, March 07, 2008 2:45 PM)

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Add you also check out "Egging" him on,
The only reason the reporter was edging him on was to make a scene, and any actual human would be just as irritated at someone trying to make them look bad.----------------------------------------------
So Timmy perfect, check it out!
YOU Look bad. You should learn a few things too.
Joe Einloth, reporting that someone running for office got miffed at reporters is reportable? The only reason this is posted is because McCain has shown his "enthusiasm" when fighting for legislation in the Senate. All kinds of reports are going to come out that he can be a hothead, so MSNBC is laying the groundwork so that they can say we toald you about here first.
It's B.S., my friend. McCain is the ONLY candidate that goes out of his way to answer everybody's questions from the media, because he wants open access to government. Now when he gets testy, all of sudden it's an issue? Gimme a break.
They probably want to push him to see if he'll cut their access, then they'll write a derogatory story about that.
This is a non-issue, non-story, but I bet somebody now will write a piece on it over the weekend so it gets a little traction on Monday's morning shows.
It matters little. McCain is best option running and the Dems haven't even picked our opponent yet.
No way the American people pick a Senator with 1 yr exp. in the Senate or s Senator that cries when her campaign get's tough. At a time of war? Reprehensible.
Moderate honesty "When Bush and Cheney get indicted for Constitutional and war crimes."

Please do not hold your breath for that.  That is something that will never happen because the facts do not support that theory I know you want them to I know you want them to suffer because you don't agree with them or that your misguided but it's time to grow up and let go of your hate and anger...and come over to the dark side...LOL!  Aint gonna happen and if that makes you mad that makes me happy!


Anyone not angry at how Bush has pissed on the Constitution is either a subversive or a dim-witted tool.

"Aint gonna happen and if that makes you mad that makes me happy! "


Isn't that what you America-hating right-wing nuts live for? Making other people unhappy? You voted for Bush just to punish half the country, and you're too stupid to realize what you've done to yourselves.

It's just the New York Times. WGAF
As it turns out,McCain was correct. On June 11,2004,the New York Times ran this piece:

''McCain Rejects Kerry VP Overtures''

[Thus raising the question that if Bumiller knew this,and from her own paper,why did she ask such a question? Of course,we can rely upon the word of the New York Times,as Jayson Blair and Judith Miller and Paul Krugman can tell you over that of McCain in much the same way that CTV was first believed over that of the Globe and Mail regarding Obama/Clinton].

McCains ''everyone knows'' appears to be factual. From the June 11-14 2004 timeslot,we have articles from the New York Times,Washington Post,USA Today,Associated Press,REUTERS,CNN,SALON,SLATE,FOX,ABC,Boston Globe,San Francisco Chronicle,Chicago Tribune,both right and leftwinged Internet blogs,[China Daily,of all places], and the BBC all detailing the discussion between the two camps.Obviously,when temper reigns,it should be turned against those who deserve it most. The Press,who play their gotcha games with the usual abandon.
Moderate honesty "When Bush and Cheney get indicted for Constitutional and war crimes."
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Please do not hold your breath for that.  That is something that will never happen because the facts do not support that theory I know you want them to I know you want them to suffer because you don't agree with them or that your misguided but it's time to grow up and let go of your hate and anger...and come over to the dark side...LOL!  Aint gonna happen and if that makes you mad that makes me happy!

+++++++++++++++++++++
Anyone not angry at how Bush has pissed on the Constitution is either a subversive or a dim-witted tool.

"Aint gonna happen and if that makes you mad that makes me happy! "


Isn't that what you America-hating right-wing nuts live for? Making other people unhappy? You voted for Bush just to punish half the country, and you're too stupid to realize what you've done to yourselves.

Some of you posters are really pathetic.  McVain or McWar, wanting to indict Obama when there is nothing charged, etc.  I wish when people posted they would bring something of value instead of hysterical rants.  On this topic McCain has a famous temper (as does Bill Clinton).  Is a temper a good or bad thing for a President?   Will this outburst effect his media relations?  It just seems these are the topics that should be debated.
John McSame is a mean spirited old man who has stood by and let real military men be trashed by the chickenhawks in his own party while he does a bear hug with bush who chickened out in the texass and alabamy air national guard...woohoo
Houston: I don't see any of McCains advisers resigning for uttering idiotic comments now do I?[which is as well for Obama,as Powers has been one,long,continued disservice to his campaign].
Did he order Bumiller off his lawn?
POOR POOR JOHN MCCAIN, IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HIT GET OUT NOW WHILE THE GETTING IS GOOD. IT'S A SHAME THE REPUBLICANS AND THAT RETARDED RUSH LIMBAUGH COULDN'T FIND A BETTER CANDIDATE FOR THEIR PARTY OF DISGRACE.
From the Hillary Clinton campaign playbook –

The first rule of politics is that there are no rules in politics.  

Ann Anomaly (Sent Friday, March 07, 2008 2:56 PM)

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Do whatever it takes to win.

Don't hate the player, Hate the game
McCain: “Why should I? Then there’s no such thing as a private conversation. Is there (inaudible) if you have a private conversation with someone, and then they come and tell you. I don’t know that that’s a private conversation. I think that’s a public conversation.”

So, let me see.  He believes in private conversations, yet wants the government to have the ability to tap into private conversations.  So, right now, there really is no such thing as a private conversation, if you use e-mail of the phone.
Well, that's one way to get a headline from the Dems. McLame gets feisty with his BBQ reporter friends.
John McCain, on the prospect of being John Kerry's running mate:

2004 -- "I did not have a conversation with that man!"

2008 -- "I didn't have the conversation with him before I did have the conversation with him."
I didn't know.  I am American.

Oh, that's right, I've killed my TV.

You're either with Big Oil or you're agianst it
Juan McCain is caught in a straight out lie and he still tries to pretend like he’s telling the truth. Talk about a Senior Moment! http://twocanpete.blogspot.com
McCain should have smack the b--ch. The press is always trying to force a story. How is her question remotely relavent to what is going on today?
I listened to that tape and if I had some reporter in face time after time I would lose my cool also. she asked a question that has absolutly nothing to do with the present election, he tried to answer her and she kept interupting , with the same thing. this was the NYT after all, a vicious media  out to cause any trouble it can . too bad they were on a plane, he should have given her a parachute and showed her the door.
So Kerry asked him and he said no in '04? It seems the story should be with Kerry and not McCain. If I was McCain I would have kicked that idiotic reporter off the plane right then and there. He remembers a conversation but doesn't remember the contents and that's the best the media can dish out on McCain?
From the Hillary Clinton campaign playbook –

The first rule of politics is that there are no rules in politics.  

Ann Anomaly (Sent Friday, March 07, 2008 2:56 PM)

Do whatever it takes to win.

Don't hate the player, Hate the game

patty,sd,ca (Sent Friday, March 07, 2008 3:07 PM)


I’ll say it for you, patty … check.

And thank you for summing up so eloquently exactly why we need change.

Checkmate.
Once you read "New York Times reporter", you can just stop. Those reporters are the biggest liers in the planet.
So is McCain a maverick or a conservative republican? I guess it depends on the week.
IS THIS THE SAME -JOHN KERRY - WHO IS BACKING OBAMA RIGHT NOW/// WAIT TIL THEY DIVE FOR KENNEDY, BIDEN AND DODDS - YEP - OBAMA WANTS TO SAY ABOVE EVERYTHING BUT YET WELCOMES THE "GOOD OL BOY MENTALITY" - DO YOU REALLY THINK OBAMA IS ABOVE THIS TYPE OF STUFF - REALLY. POLITIONS ARE JUST THAT - GET SOME KLEENEX - COME TO REALITY HERE BECAUSE OBAMA -CLINTON-MCCAIN /THEY ARE ALL ALIKE.


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