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Bill: Hillary-Obama ticket 'unstoppable'

Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:35 AM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
PASS CHRISTIAN, Miss. -- Bill Clinton told voters on the Gulf Coast yesterday that a Clinton-Obama ticket would be an "unstoppable force" in the general election, and that his wife is certainly considering it.

All three remaining White House hopefuls were off the trail yesterday, so the former president couldn't help but be back in the spotlight. On top of that, Clinton decided to take questions for the first time in more than a month, and perhaps not surprisingly, a voter asked this question -- would the two Democratic candidates join forces as a ticket.

"I never talk to her about this, because I think if you ever look past the next election you might not get past it," Clinton cautioned. But he pointed to his wife's recent comments on the matter, saying he believed she "was very open" to the idea. "I think she answered explicitly yes yesterday," he said. "I heard he also said no, but I think she said yes."

Clinton said that Hillary believes that if there was a way to "unite the energy and the new people" that Barack Obama has attracted with the appeal he said his wife has shown in "small town and rural America, they'd "be hard to beat."

"You look at most of these places -- he would win the urban areas and the upscale voters, and she wins the traditional rural areas that we lost when President Reagan was president," he said. "If you put those two things together, you'd have an almost unstoppable force."

Clinton moved then to take another question, before he returned to the subject, saying he didn't blame either candidate for not wanting to put the matter on the table now. "Nobody wants to give up the top spot until the voters get done voting," he said. "[But] if you got the assurances of ultimate unity, then it's a great mistake for other people to try to shut this process down early. I mean, the last primary is June the 7th. I didn't get the votes in '92 to be nominated until June the 2nd. We don't need to be in any hurry, let everybody vote."

Later in the day, in Ellisville, Clinton revisited the topic. "She believes when this is over, if we can unify the Democratic Party, then we will clearly win because there is so much energy behind what is happening," he said. "Nobody has ever seen anything like this."

But given the Clinton camp's implicit argument that Obama is not ready to be commander-in- chief or handle a 3:00 am phone call, Clinton was asked why then would she consider Obama for the No. 2 spot. "That's politics," Clinton said, not taking the bait, as he would put it. "I think she would be the best president for the reasons I say at every stop... But, you know, he is an immensely talented man. He's brought a lot of energy and a lot of excitement to this race and I don't know who is going to win. It's not over yet, we've got a long way to go."

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The Clinton campaign cannot simultaneously claim that 1) Senator Obama doesn't have enough experience to be in office, and 2)that he should be on a joint ticket.

Even if they are only talking about him being the VP on a joint ticket, they have to realize that the VP needs to be ready to step in and lead the country at a moments notice.

Every time the Clinton campaign mentions a joint ticket, they are saying that they feel Barack Obama is qualified to lead the country.

Why the Obama campaign hasn't exploited this is beyond me.
Yep, that is the Clintons. Throwing feelers all the time, managing expectations. If you can't get the presidency, then get the next highest job. You have got to get to the White House by any means necessary. Who knows, may be President Obama might drop dead from heart attack and Clinton takes over. It has happened. Johnshon taking over from Kennedy. What is eriely similar is the ostantatious comparison done between JFK and Obama, in this case an ominous one, reminding us that perhaps that Obama might experience a fate like his predessor to the benefit of the Clintons. As for Obama taking on the VP role, forget about it. He had rather go back to the senate and, charge his resume and come back to haunt her in 2012. By then, she would have amassed more bagge, more enemies and create more division.
Gimme a break!!!  First you say Obama is not qualified to be commander in chief, oh but we may want to him to be VP? First off, last time I checked Obama is leading in delegates and popular votes, so how are they offering him VP???  Obama should be offering HRC the VP slot but he would never do that because he's so much better than her and he doesn't need her to win.  But you better believe she needs him to win. And furthermore HRC could certainly use his moneymaking prowess as well.  
Hillary Rodham Clinton officially endorsed John McCain, how can Bill CLinton then try to use Barack's name to try and get votes for his wife. This is insane
if obama is going to be on the top ticket. why are you and your wife so greedy and selfish. You dont think Barack is good enough to be president? IS it because his black? What is wrong with you pipo.
Since the Clintons like to through dirt - mostly made-up or twisted 'facts', here are some real facts:

In 1978, with no prior experience, Hillary Clinton started trading high risk commodities futures under the guidance of James Blair, a friend. Blair was also an experienced trader who was outside counsel to massive Arkansas chicken processor Tyson Foods (which had business before Bill Clinton, then the governor of Arkansas.) Hillary did very well, improbably well, even given the fact that a major bull market was going on. One possibility, hinted at by trading records from the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, is that Blair traded for her and manipulated results to put money in Hillary's pocket. For example, a trader might make a large number of trades in a single day, for themself and for clients. Some of them will do well and some will fail. Instead of allocated the trades between various clients as originally intended, a trader like Blair could reassign all of the successful trades to one client (such as Clinton) and assign the losers to himself, or another client. That way, he would effectively pay her the money without worry about laws against payoffs.

At the very end of his presidential term, Bill Clinton pardoned a number of people, including financier and convicted tax evader Marc Rich. It's on Hillary's scandal page because a few months earlier, Rich's former wife Denise gave substantial donations to Hillary's senatorial campaign and the Clinton library. While any wife or husband of a politician should be free to run for office, running while the spouse is still in power creates an immediate conflict of interest, and Bill had no trouble repaying the favor to his wife's contributor.
The interesting part of this story is who else was urging Clinton to pardon Marc Rich. The request was delivered to Hillary personally by none other than Scooter Libby, who was Rich's lawyer and has since been convicted of perjury in the Bush administration's leaking of the identity of arms control spy Valerie Plame. And Rich's application was supported by Israel's then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak. The final twist is that Rich was a suspected middleman in smuggling of Iraqi oil despite the trade embargo. His pardon required him to pay a $100 MILLION FINE before he could return to the U.S. That should give conspiracy folks something to chew on.
Clinton also pardoned Almon Glenn Braswell for mail fraud and perjury convictions. Braswell and Carlos Vignali paid approximately $200,000 each to Hillary's brother, Hugh Rodham, to pitch their clemency casese. Rodham returned the payments after they became public knowledge
This is GARBAGE. Obama is ahead.. Bill is playing the same old politics as usual. And to argue that hey won Democratic strong hold that they would win and Obama would not???
Cali, NY, NJ and the whole eaters NE states he would lose???
Give us a breal Camp Hill
"Thats politics" eh?  So essentially what Bill is saying is that Hill and Bill do believe that Sen Obama is ready to run this country and that her negative attacks against him arent her true feelings, just politics?  Further suggesting the arrogance of this woman and her willingness to stoop to anything to be president. You know it is her turn. Her right. Her entitlement. Yeah rightttt! I guess Samantha Powers was right. She is a monster!
This is nothing but a ploy for Clinton to try and steal voters away from Obama.  Trying to get them to think they can have both if they vote for her.

Don't be fooled.  Stick to Obama!
When will people stop buying the Clinton propaganda.  Obama is winning.  He would have to offer her the VP slot.  We as a nation need to stop letting her people define the endgame.  All states are important not, just the ones she wins.  Delegates are important.  Momentum is only as good as the last state.

Also if he is good enough to be one heartbeat away wouldn't that by definition mean he has " crossed the experience thresh hold" to be Commander in chief?

Her campaign really is politics of the past, we need to make sure we move to the politics of the future by not buying into all of this.  It is up to us!

Obama in 08
This BS has to stop. Obama will not be a vice president to clinton. Presidential-nominee Obama will not put the flawed, hated Clinton as Vice President. More hints, inuendo, triangulation, misdirection by the Clinton campaign is just typical stuff that is why this democratic, 55 y.o, female voter refuses to vote for her under any circumstanses.
At first glance you think … wow, here’s Bill Clinton making the first move to “reach out,” bring the candidates together, and unify the party.  But then … on further thought, you realize that you’re only looking at one more application of the first rule of politics – that there are no rules in politics:  Send a subliminal message to your opponent that if you don’t drop out and join me right now, you’ll be the one responsible if democrats lose in the fall.  Now THAT’s the Bill Clinton we remember. How sweet it would be ... if only it wasn't so cynical.
Bill has never talked to Hill about this? Right. Just like none in the Clinto campaign talked to the Canadians about NAFTA. I surmise from this nonsense that because Obama has the support of urban areas and the "upscale" (another attempt at class warfare?), he would be the # one place on the ticket. The best way to unify the ticket?  Make sure we don't have to deal with more of Slick Willie.  Bill, concentrate on your legal woes.
HELL NO!

There will be no "Driving Miss Daisy" for the sake of "fake party unity". That suggestion , by Bill given the fact that Obama is the one in the lead, is yet another insult and demonstration of his disconnect among African American voters.

Bill Clinton is about to wake up to the fact that a "photo op" with Black people just won't do anymore. We are sick of him talking to us like we are retarded and we don't know why he's making that suggestion. Samantha Powers was wrong to call Hillary a monster. She's worse than a monster. Bothe of them are clearly "LUCIFERIAN"
why hasn't someone asked bill what gave him the experience needed to answer the 3am call?  i can't think of what experiences a governor would have that gives him the world stage experience.  it seems like double standard... HE had the experience as a governor, but obama doesn't?
Hillary wants obama to lose so she can run in 2012.
This is another dirty trick by the Clintons. Anyone who can do first-grade math woudl know that it is almost impossible for Hillary to have more pledged or even total delegates than Obama. She needed a big win to reduce the delegate gap when her two favorite states, Ohio and Texas, voted last Tuesday. She failed miserablly to do so, although the press was fooled to think any win was a win for Hillary.

Now the Clintons are playing the trick, "vote for her, and get him for free." They have underestimated the intelligence of the American people. Obama will be the nominee. What Hillary indicated was that she wants to be his VP. I think Obama is better off with somebody else as the VP, for example, Mr. Bloomberg.

47% of the Americans are sick of the Clintons and want to see them disappear forever. The Clintons only remind people how divisive and dirty politics can be.
Last bit effort to fool folks again!  Intead we need a leader who can inspire be the leader and then a procedure person as the VP, and can have Clinton at that end. OBAMA-CLINTON is something we can consider.

We don't want HILL as President and BILL as unofficlal VP then the official VP is only a 3rd person outside whitehouse.
Terry MacAullife was on Bill Maher & when Maher started asking tough questions MacAullife's video feed suddenly got pulled. Clinton censorship.
well i'm glad that bill has acknowledged that obama could be commander-in-chief as well, unlike hillary.

basically, she's making it so they have to run together.  does anyone else think that hillary is just setting this up so that obama has to be the veep?  with so many video clips of her saying that obama is not ready to be in the number one spot, it'll be difficult for him to stay on top with those clips bombarding him throughout the general.
No, you've got it twisted Bill.  An Obama-Clinton ticket would be uunbeatable!
Oh please give me a break.  What a crock she said she was open to a ticket with her as president and Obama as vice president.  What a hypocrite.  She is more than a hundred behind in pledged delegates and Obama should agree to play second place to her.  I don't think she would be agreeable at all to a ticket that has Obama as president and her as vice president.  What a bunch of self serving drivel the Clintons both keep spouting
Interesting, isn't it?  HRC is trailing with no reasonable chance of catching Obama, so now she's publicly saying she'd love him as a VP. Personally, I'd be so disappointed in him if he'd even consider her as his VP.

The Clintons stand for everything bad that Washington politics represents; power-hungry, unethical, say-anything-to-get-elected elitists. The sadder point is that so many Americans are so easily duped by them...
This is why I have lost the little respect that I have for the Clinton's.  They are trying to force Obama into a corner, so that he has to take the VP position.  They are soooo calculated, they are the definition of "politician". Why don't they "suggest" an Obama-Clinton ticket???
Poor Bill...so desperate to get his wife on the ticket.  

So now she needs to ride another man's coattails to the White House?  Boy...can she not accomplish anything on her own?  

No thanks...Obama knows where his supporters stand...he will not let her anywhere near his run vs. McCain.

Clinton = Rove
Clinton = Rove

Say no to "Rove/Clinton" tactics!


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