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The delegate fight: Obama wins WY

Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:02 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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Per the AP, “Sen. Barack Obama captured the Wyoming Democratic caucuses Saturday, seizing a bit of momentum in the close, hard-fought race with rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for the party's presidential nomination… Obama had 61 percent, or 5,378 votes, to Clinton's 38 percent, or 3,312 votes, with all 23 Wyoming counties reporting. Obama won seven delegates and Clinton won five.” 

In a front-page piece in Sunday’s Washington Post, Dan Balz writes that Clinton’s wins over Obama last week in Ohio, Rhode Island, and Texas appear “to have convinced a sizable number of uncommitted Democratic superdelegates to wait until the end of the primaries and caucuses before picking a candidate, according to a survey by The Washington Post Many of the 80 uncommitted superdelegates who were contacted over the past several days said they are reluctant to override the clear will of voters. But if Clinton (N.Y.) and Obama (Ill.) are still seen as relatively close in the pledged, or elected, delegate count in June, many said, they will feel free to decide for themselves which of the candidates would make a stronger nominee to run against Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in the fall.”

The remaining superdelegates will likely be swayed by electability more than anything else.

On the Florida and Michigan front, Al Sharpton is heading to the Sunshine State today "to compile lists of residents who skipped the January contest because they thought their votes would not count. He plans to have those residents sign affidavits saying they would be disenfranchised by the seating of the Florida delegation, in the event the Democratic Party allowed that to happen."

Will Florida wind up being a mail-in primary?

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And Obama won TEXAS. When does the media start reporting that???

As an Obama supporter I am becoming increasingly frustrated with Obamas lack of Fight. Hillary again is winning because she is making him out to be soft.
THIS IS NOT GOOD.
So Hilarity thinks it’s a good idea to vouch for the Republican nominee while kneecapping the Democratic frontrunner?  Yeah, I really trust her to look after the best interest of the party.  This traitorous vapid pants-suit will reap what she is sowing in the end.  If our leaders are foolish enough to trust her, the entire party goes down with her and deservedly so.  

Forget everything I said about respecting Hilarity.  That’s all over now.  She’s earned nothing but contempt with this sorry excuse for a campaign.  You cross the line when you start helping the opposition and hurting your friends.  She is plainly unfit to hold the highest office in the land.  Or the second highest.
This seems to be the pattern. Obama wins and wins suprising everyone. Hillary wins 2 or 3 big states and then loses again repeatedly. All the while she bashes her own party member for the opposition.

Is a mad scramble for anything that sticks really the "experience" that the American people want/need? If experience were truly all that, then McCain would've known that you don't denounce/reject the man speaking before you at your own event. Not to lose it over a simple reporter's question. Hillary would have created a strategy that didn't consist of "well, how about this one"?

Please let this show that the experience argument is groundless, and if you support Obama please challenge that everytime you hear it. Turn the page please
She just stated the facts, his experience is nil and why not take an upper road and say McCain is experienced, why try and lie about something thats so real. People are taking everything to seriously, this is politics get over it.
Jaycee:

Please keep in mind that it was Obama who tried to say that Hillary was like McCain first.  He paints them both as pro war (which is clearly not the case).  In that context, I think it made sense for her to fight back.  If Obama wants to compare her to McCain, he has to be prepared to take the good with the bad. Hillary is clearly more prepared than Obama on foreign policy.  She also has better domestic policy proposals as well.  On Iraq, we really have not idea what Obama will do after hearing from his top foreign policy advisor that Obama does not intend to follow his existing plan for Iraq.  In that case, what plan is he going to follow?
I agree with jaycee. Hillary made a BIG mistake by endorsing John McCain.
Right on, Jaycee.  Hillary has burned her bridges behind her and deserves to be trapped on a hostile shore.
Obama '08!
Dredbear in Texas
Hillary has lost all credibility as a trustworthy statesman. Sliming Barack while endorsing John McCain! I say no thanks to Senator Clinton.
Hey Chuck, saw you on teevee. You're so good with all that "delegate stuff", certainly you must understand that this is a RACE FOR DELEGATES.  As such, Obama clearly won Texas.  Please inform Domenico and have him correct this column.
My biggest gripe right now is with the media coverage.  It's not that I want them to go after Hillary more or take it easy on Obama, because that would be unfair.  However, I do want them to both be treated equally.  If Barack was down by 140+ delegates and offered Hillary the VP spot, the media would be all over it saying how absurd that was.  However, when the Clinton campaign does it, the media not only covers it as a realistic possibility, but also as the answer to everyone's dreams.  Please.  If Obama is ahead in pledged delegates, states, and popular vote, why would he happily jump in the backseat and give up the presidency to Hillary in the hopes she puts him in the number 2 spot?

Furthermore, why has the media not reported what Barack said in Wyoming on Sunday after the victory?  "You will not see me as a vice presidential candidate."  It gets no clearer than that.  Barack will not be Hillary's VP so it's a little ridiculous to have Hillary and Bill offer the spot to someone that doesn't want it.

As far as the Wyoming and Texas races, Barack will come out ahead in each delegate count.  Here's the thing, though.  If Hillary does win Pennsylvania, what's next?  After that, she's likely to lose the remaining 10 contests.  Does she really think she can go into the convention on a 10 state losing streak with an increasingly negative campaign and a growing delegate deficit and convince the super delegates that she's the one who should run the party?  Unlike that Clinton campaign, I urge everyone else to think ahead.  Seriously, think ahead.  Obama will not get out after Pennsylvania, so what happens then?
Senator Hilary Clinton is the most secretive and divisive politician in America. “The Clinton campaign has publicly admitted that the only way they can still win this election is by tearing Barack Obama down.  They have called their attacks the “kitchen sink strategy,” and Senator Clinton herself has referred to it as “the fun part” of the campaign.  The result has been a constant barrage of attacks about Senator Obama’s record that they know full well aren’t true.  And yet they repeat them, over and over again, day after day, in an attempt to deceive the American people just so that they can win this election.”
“Washington [Hilary Clinton] has played too much politics with the issue of war.  It’s what got us into Iraq in the first place.  It’s why so many brave Americans have lost their lives.  And it’s why the real Commander-in-Chief test in this election isn’t about some TV ad, it’s about whether the American people will be able to trust in the judgment and the honesty of their next President.”  

Their “kitchen and sink strategy” will not work this time in Pennsylvania and any other place.

Let Americans go to USA Today and Washington Times to see what the
Clintons are up to:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-06-clinton-library-foia_N.htm?loc=intersti
tialskip

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080307/NATION/15653289/1001

Why is press not pursuing the story? The media should pursue the story so that Senator Clinton will be fully vetted.

George
He is soft didn't you read his books. This man is not a fighter. He just gives good speeches. The people around him are scary with there views about Isreal, I know I can't vote for him and I decided this long ago when I did some real fact checking not just his website or MSNBC.

Some people on this blog our flip-flopers for shame!
My vote will count for anyone but Obama.
I hope that the Obama camp take the time to thank Bill Clinton for his endorsement.
Recently while in Mississippi, Bill Clinton stated that Obama would make an excellent vice president
The last time I looked, the first question one asks when looking for a vice president is "Would she be able to take over the presidency?"

I would, however, like to point out that Bill, as usual in his arrogance, neglected to consider the will of the people
As of today, the peole, the American voter, seems to believe that Barack Obama is not only qualified but the better choice to beat John McCain
I;m not voting for Hillary Rove Clinton no matter what. First her campaign signs an agreement not to seat the delegates from FL and MI.  She gets behind in delegates and all of a sudden it wouldn't be fair not to allow those delegates in.  She links Obama with Bush, says he full of hot air, steals speeches but would make a great VP.  AND HE'S AHEAD IN THE RACE!  She is putting everything and anything out there.  She seems to like McCain.  I think she should hook up with him. She's pathetic.
It is important to remember that even in the second position Hillary Clinton would bring the chaos, dysfunction and potentially corrupt contacts of William Clinton and the Clinton Foundation with her.  People have forgotten how bad his administration was in fact, as against compared to second Bush.
Hail Obama I know he will win despite Arican's thought that votes will be rigged in favour of Clinton because of his colour
Nj: Just because Obama won't get in the mud with Hillary doesn't mean he has a lack of fight. From the beginning his message was TOGETHER we can change politics. He's trying to take the high road. OUR road needs to be at the polling place. The rest of the primaries need to make a loud statement on his behalf. Don't underestimate the vote. In the 14th Congressional District of Illinois, we gave Dennis Hastert's republican seat to a Democrat for the FIRST time in MY lifetime and I couldn't be more excited. If we TRULY want change, then we must stand up for it at the polls and send Washington and Hillary  a message loud and clear. We will NOT tolerate this mean-spirited vendictive campagin you are running. Together, yes we can!
AL SHARPTON HAS THE RIGHT IDEA --- SUE TO PREVENT FLORIDA VOTES FROM BEING COUNTED.  The Democrats set the rules; they should live by them (even though the Clintons never do think the rules apply to them).  
Thank you Hillary Clinton for not giving up. Because of you, every vote in every state counts. For the first time in decades, the primary election is finally meaningful to EVERYONE .. the way it should be. A few years ago, our governor was the policitian a la mode with no real experience and everybody voted for hm. Look where our state is today in total economic chaos. I refuse to support another politician a la mode ... Go Hillary
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com
I hope Sharpton sues these cheaters all the way to the Supreme Court. I'm not a big fan of his as a rule, but on this one he has every right to be upset.
Obama, is doing great i think yes he does have to speak up more to the clintons i still feel that he is running against bill but he will do fine
Yep! Hillary suffers from SCS (Spoiled Child Syndrome). I expect to see her and Bill holding their breaths and turning blue for FL, MI, and super delegates.  Wah! they won't play the game my way - I'm taking you down with me.  Only the large states count - Nobody who counts lives in WY, ME, ....
Obama lets his surrogates and obamanoids do his dirty work---he looks above the frey?Not so fast---he is doing plenty of mud throwing since the media was shamed into giving him a small peek.
obama
please allow her for vice president post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Yeah Obama won Texas... then Hillary won Iowa, oh that's right, how quickly we forget that the Obama camp, after Hillary winning more delegates, said this was all about the popular vote. He's a liar and a hypocrite, and Obama supporters are as close to the exact case-in-point reason as to WHY democrats, nationally, are laughed at for their uncanny abilities to snatch defeat out of the hands of victory. This ardent, yellow-dog democrat is going to make the same stupid, childish antics of the Obama camp. If he's elected, I'm sitting out in November or voting Mccain. Everyone has been reporting the idiotic Obama supporters saying that... yeah, that's the party of the future. We help our party by voting for the "other man" you stupid democrats supporting Obama, it is YOU - not Hillary dividing the ticket. If Obama is "selected" because of undemocratic caucuses, and being unable to win one single democratic stronghold.

Alaska, Utah, Wyoming, Kansas, South Dakota, North Dakota, Idaho... yeah, those are all going to be in play this November, right? Give me a break.

Now let's compare that to Hillary's victories.

Arkansas - went Republican, easily going to go for HIllary. Tennessee - Hillary wins by 18 points in a state with an extremely large portion of African Americans, very close race in November.

OHIO AND FLORIDA - Well, maybe winning Florida in 3 separate elections will shut Obama up finally. She won the early voting, absentee voting, the inital voting, and now the mail-in voting. Ohio... we wouldn't have lost Gore or Kerry had they been able to carry Ohio.
BUSH BULLY PERSONALITY!HILLARY BULLY PERSONALITY!HILLARY,S BATTLE CRY,SHAME ON YOU DEMOCRATICS FOR NOT VOTING FOR ME.I WILL THROW A FELLOW DEMOCRATIC UNDER THE BUS IN FAVOR OF A REPUBLICAN.
Yawn Jaycee, despite your well written missives for obama the fact is that America, even dems, will not elect an empty suit, devoid of any substance, well except Bush of course
Obama is a bane, and reading these useless posters and posts above show why Democrats are incapable of winning. Hillary is this party's potential savior, and you're all flat out stupid.
I agree Jaycee.  When the election cycle started I often wrote that I supported Obama but also respected Clinton.  I am an Independent who leans Democrat but this nomination and the Clinton's remind me every day why I loathe the Democrat label.
Sadly instead of just being cycnical about the party I am finding myself angry and disgusted by the voters.  I remember thinking this way when Bush was able to convince the American public that Iraq and September 11th were linked.  If I were selfish I would be a Republican.  Their party represents my self interests best, but I have always thought that as a Nation we rise and fall together and that it is important to govern in a way that lifts everyone.  
There is an old idea that everyone begins as a Democrat, because of idealism, but that when we grow up we become Republicans.  I am starting to understand that sentiment.  It saddens me and I don't like what it says about me too much.
Yup, Hillary Clinton sure attacked Obama when she made his advisor have that meeting with the Canadians to tell them Obama doesn't mean what he says about NAFTA.  Plus I'm certain you must be right that the Clinton Machine set up Samantha Powers so she would say that Obama doesn't really mean what he says about Iraq.  Then the Clinton controlled media had the nerve to expect that Obama would, like, answer more than eight questions. Let's not forget the Hillary Clinton attack dogs that are telling American citizens in Michigan and Florida that they should get to re-vote.  What a bunch of kneecappers those Clinton's are!
There is no question but that our news media is either lazy, pro Clinton or both.  Why else do they continue to claim a BIG win for her in Texas.  At the very least they MUST admit it has not been decided or tell the truth that is in delegate count, the only one the counts just ask Al, Sen Obama is winning the state.  To continue to claim otherwise really is doing a disservice.  It certainly reminds me of the run up to the Iraq war where even though there was a GREAT deal of evidence to the contrary they continued to repeat the same lies from the present administration.  SHAME on you then and SHAME on you now!  
Everytime Obama wins a state, Hillary shrieks as though sunlight entered her cave. I’ve seen people obsessed with winning something before, and that’s ok only to the extent that they don’t cut your brake lines or run a circular saw through you on the way to the finish line.

Her desperation is so sickening and scary. How is she different from the other extremism we are witnessing around the world? No, I don’t want that maniac answering the red phone, and for god sakes, keep this menopausal freak away from the red buttons.  
Jeesh, this is looking like spring training in the MLB. Wait 'till its over!
Obasma supporter who is frustrated, don't be.  He can't attack her right now.  Just be patient.
I will not vote in Nov. if Clinton is given the nomination by super delegates.  I've always voted. can't win it fairly.  This past week by stating only she (joke, joke) and John McCain are capable of being commander in chief;  has shown herself, regrettably to not be forthright in a tough situation.  She is damaging the party and the process.  
I really think you're right, he needs to get tougher, but at the same time not stoop to her level.  His message is one about change and he can't preach that and doesn't do that.  He is an inspiration to me in many ways, and this is one of them.  Its not many people that can maintain integrity and credibility in the face of such degradation of character by another.  This is a sign of Strength not Weakness, and he's banking on the innate goodness and insight of the people to realize this. He has drawn a clear contrast between himself and the "Monster"!
WILL THESE PEOPLE ON THIS FIRST READ BLOG PLEASE GET SOME MANNERS?  THEIR LACK OF RESPECT FOR HILLARY CLINTON IS BEGINING TO BE DISQUESTING.  HILLARY IS A GREAT LADY--A FORMER FIRST LADY--A GREAT STATE SENATOR-- (just ask the people of her state NY, THEY ELECTED HER AND RE-ELECTED HER, BECAUSE SHE DID A GOOD JOB.)  EVERYBODY HAS SKELETONS IN THEIR CLOSET. hILLARY IS OLDER THAN OBAMA,  SHE IS ALLOWED A FEW MORE.  TAKE A BETTER LOOK IN OBAMA'S CLOSET -- YOU MAY BE SURPRISED AT WHAT YOU FIND,  INSTEAD OF WALKING AROUND SO STARRY EYED OVER HIM.  
 
Did anyone catch the "Clinton News Network's"(CNN) coverage in Wyoming?  With 78% of the vote counted, Wolfe ask the field coorespondent if she had any sense of how the process was going.  The numbers on the screen indicated a decisive lead for Obama (59-40%). They both laughed comparing the process to a "bingo" night, and said there was no way to tell how the election was breaking.   Come on, please.

Are they that ignorant, or do they just think their viewers are stupid?
I could not believe what I was hearing when HRC stated that even John McCain had more foreign policy experience than Barack Obama on national TV.  I thought they were on the same side.  I hope the Dems realise that she puts her ambitions above the party winning in 2008 and end this thing by voting her down.
Obama didn't win Texas and this is good.
It is sad how ignorant the US has become by jumping on the Obama Bin Laden bandwagon.  These people are going to regret what they are doing by backing this guy, he is a joke; he should not be allowed to operate a hot dog stand let alone run for president.  The country and Democrats will see what a mistake they are making, we need to let the educated people make the decisions in this country.
Nj,

While Hillary's attacks are sharpening up Obama and his lethargic and inexperienced team and advisers, that's precisely what's needed before the fall.

By the way McCain is miles worse a campaigner than Hillary. Look for Obama to call out these overt GOP attacks as racist in the fall.

The attack dogs will just say: "If BHO wins, al Qaida will be celebrating on the streets".

The real problem for Obama will not be McCain or Hillary as a person, but how to win over or these middle aged white women in NJ, MA and OH.

His assumption that they will vote for him because they are democrats is not good enough, he would need a woman (Sebelius or even Hillary) on the ticket to do that.
Wait a minute - Obama won Texas!  He did!  That is a big state, too - one of the biggest.  Hillary did not win the Caucuses there, nor did she win Wyoming.  Yet I notice that MSNBC wrote Obama off early the other night because he didn't get 60%.  Whoops - he got 61% and a majority of the delegates.  Please stop writing people off before the votes are all counted - didn't we learn anything from the Gore debacle in Florida?

If Obama wins, he wins.  Not all of us care about Hillary's "opinion" of what she did.  Quit reporting the Spin and give us the "truth."  thanks.
I think one of the most interesting news stories came out of Afganistan on NPR.  Soldiers who were proficient in  farming were sent in quietly to help Afgans modernize their farming practices.  Given Baracks incredible organizational skills, can you imagine a presidency that would incourage this type of diplomacy through activities such as these.(I'm quite sure Bush had nothing to do with this). We could change the world.  Kind of like bringing back the Civilian Conservation Corp.  By the way, I live in Wyoming , conservative, Republican Wyoming, and the turnout was 10 times the previous turnout for an election, and everyone seemed completely energized for Barack. I also want to express my admiration for Chuck Todd - very fair reporting.  
Obama wins Vermont, Texas, Wyoming, and soon Mississippi. Isn't Hillary suppose to drop out after losing Texas?
I think we should calculate the delegate count on the DEM side  as a winner takes all delegates and see  if  one person's lead pulls away from the other.  Then go with it.  
I think we should calculate the delegate count on the DEM side  as a winner takes all delegates and see  if  one person's lead pulls away from the other.  Then go with it.  
Did anyone see the "Clinton News Network's" (CNN) coverage of the Wyoming coverage?  When it was clear that Obama was winning (59-40 with 78% of the precincts reporting) Wolf and the local correspondent laughed how there was no way to make sense out of numbers and compared the process to a "bingo night".  Looks like they've bought into the Clinton spin machine lock-stock-n-barrel.
Those who are indicating that Barak lacks "FIGHT"  need to realize that he is successfully STANDING against the following:
Sen Clinton
Former President Bill Clinton
Even Chelsea Clinton
Sen. McCain
President Bush
THe entire Republican Party
The Biased Media
Despite the above....HE is still standing...this guy is as tough as they come!
I couldn't have said it better myself, jaycee.

I never thought I'd reach this point, but I cannot and will not support Sen. Clinton if she somehow manages to dirty up this primary season and steal the nomination.

But the bigger picture is that Obama needs to fight back RIGHT NOW. He seems to be sitting back and waiting for the contests to be over, but he can't afford to do that. As Hillary has proven time and time again, if you give her an inch, she'll take 100 miles.

Obama needs to take control of this election again, or I'm afraid that Clinton's "kitchen sink" (ie. lies, mud, and dirty tricks) are going to be successful. And, I'm afraid, that will be the nail in the Democrat's chances of winning this fall against a very, very unspectacular McCain.


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