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Mark Murray, NBC Deputy Political Director

Domenico Montanaro, NBC Political Researcher



First thoughts: Who's the front-runner?

Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:04 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Victoria Riess
*** Who's the front-runner? So, the weekend campaign between Clinton and Obama has been a discussion about a Clinton-Obama ticket, how to pay for a Florida-Michigan re-do, and the commander-in-chief question. So who's the frontrunner? Obama, at least this past week, has lost control of the campaign's narrative. The Clinton campaign is now fighting the campaign out on its turf, despite being behind a nearly an insurmountable margin on the pledged delegate front, 1373-1232. Just look at how little coverage Wyoming and Mississippi are getting and how much focus is being put on Pennsylvania, even over other big states like North Carolina. And nevermind the incredible lift the Clinton campaign continues to get from the folks at "SNL." This last opening skit might actually have been written by the Clinton campaign; it was striking in how on-message the skit was for Clinton. It was the third week in a row the comedy show has delivered for Clinton. Bottom line: the Clinton campaign appears to have wrested control of the campaign narrative, while Obama's camp continues to be in reactive mode. The Obama folks will say it's the media's fault, but as we've said to others who blame the media for these perception swings -- the media can only cover what the campaigns deliver.

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd offers his first read on the possibility of primary re-do's for Florida and Michigan and whether Sen. Hillary Clinton's image is hurt by campaign bickering.

*** Size matters? Similarly, when did all the states Clinton won (save Oklahoma) matter, while just about half of them (including Saturday’s contest in Wyoming) matter for Obama? For one thing, isn’t counting California and New York a bit dubious? All things considered, we bet that every Democratic presidential candidate this cycle except for Gravel and Kucinich would probably carry those two Dem-tilting states. Also, if primary performance guarantees general election performance -- and history isn’t so sure it does -- then Clinton would have advantages in a battleground state like Ohio, especially among women and low-income Democrats. But what about asking the opposite question: Why is the biggest name in Democratic politics, Clinton, failing to win caucuses and primaries in smaller states dominated by longtime Dem activists, many of which hold important Senate contests in November (like Alaska, Colorado, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, and Virginia)? As Harold Ickes told NBC News in late January, after Clinton won New Hampshire and Nevada, the Clinton-Obama contest is a race for delegates. Not just delegates of big states or medium-sized states or small states -- but all of them.

*** Do unto others...? Another example of how the Clinton campaign is dominating the campaign narrative: What would be the Clintons’ reaction if Obama -- trailing in pledged delegates and number of states won -- floated the idea of Clinton being his vice president? Just asking…

*** Florida and Michigan: It looks like it's not a matter of "IF" there will be some sort of re-vote in Florida and Michigan, but when. Clinton surrogates were all over the place this weekend promising to raise whatever money was needed to hold re-votes; the Obama campaign hasn't exactly jumped at the chance to sign on to this idea because they know a re-vote is a potential chance for Clinton to legitimize her big-state resume argument (even if her victories are very narrow), as well as extend the nomination fight. And this is the most important piece of this push for a revote. It freezes superdelegates for even LONGER and keeps the Obama camp from being able to push too hard to end this and rally superdelegates to his side.

*** Watching that popular vote: Also, a revote in Florida and Michigan gives Clinton the opportunity to catch up in the popular vote count, an important talking point to undecided superdelegates. Without Florida and Michigan, Obama's popular vote lead is approx. 600,000 votes. By comparison, with Florida and Michigan, Clinton leads. And with re-votes, she could cut Obama's popular vote lead to approximately 100,000 or even less -- which out of 40,000,000 votes cast would be considered a virtual tie. By the way, one of the reasons the Clinton campaign needs those two states to count so badly is the 53 combined superdelegates in them. Clinton will win a LARGE chunk of those supers, because she stuck by the two states in their feud with the DNC. In fact, Clinton could net more superdelegates out of Florida and Michigan than she nets pledged delegates if she wins both states.

*** What about July or August? As for timing of the re-votes, why aren't the states looking to the end of July or early August, when the two states hold their congressional primaries? Sure, it's outside the June 10 DNC deadline for holding delegate contests, but won't the DNC  provide an exemption? Seriously, Michigan has a scheduled congressional primary for early August, meaning taxpayers wouldn't be paying any more money to add a presidential primary line. And Florida has their congressional primary scheduled for late August (which could be moved to late July by the state legislature), so the contests there could easily be moved up at the cost of nothing to the taxpayers.

*** A big Dem win: The most significant political development of the weekend was not in the presidential race but in an Illinois GOP-held district. The Dem victory here (Bush won it by 55% in 2004) is a HUGE psychological blow to the House Republicans, who are already struggling on the perception front on the idea they can win back control of Congress. This is really going to hurt on the fundraising front for the NRCC.

Meanwhile, do note that Obama cut an ad for the Dem, Bill Foster, while McCain did the same for the Republican, Jim Oberweis. Does this signal, at a minimum, how long Obama's coattails could be -- at least in Illinois? By the way, will this Dem victory start getting more folks talking louder about what we suggested above: that Dems who worry more about House and Senate races are much more interested in running with Obama than Clinton because of his ability to potentially swing more House seats (increased black vote in the South) and even tip a few Senate seats. We've heard from GOP strategists who can't believe Obama isn't benefiting more from insiders on this fact, because they certainly fear that Obama could cost them more House and Senate seats than Clinton.
 
*** On the trail: Scrantonicity! Clinton holds a rally in Scranton, PA; McCain has media avails in Phoenix and St. Louis; and Obama, in Mississippi one day before the primary there, stumps in Jackson. Bill and Chelsea Clinton also campaign in Mississippi. And Obama’s military advisers hold a press conference in DC to argue that he has the experience and judgment to be commander-in-chief.

Countdown to Mississippi: 1 day
Countdown to Pennsylvania: 43 days
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I’m feeling badly for all our young people who have responded so energetically to Barack’s message that we can change the quality of our political conversation.  We can, but not in the course of a single election.  We have the bad luck to face a candidate in our own party that epitomizes everything we’ve come to hate over the past few decades.  The question now is how to deal with it strategically and still be able to look in the mirror when it’s over.  If our superdelegates continue to act like lily-livered gutless wonders it’s a question we will have to answer.  

We’re having this debate in my own household.  I’m of the opinion that you can’t stand still with your eyes on the horizon while someone is kneecapping you for seven weeks. You’ll only wind up a pygmy.  The Hilarity McClinton campaign is cynically using the idealistic impulses of Barack’s supporters against them.  Attack by repeating empty assertions over and over and then when he responds asking “but what about the politics of hope?”  Despicable.  

You can hear the disappointment from a number of Barack’s young supporters whenever he talks about responding in kind.  Look kids, if you make it that easy for these cynics to peel you off they’ll just keep doing it.  They’ll say anything they think will work because they don’t share your vision.  They’re determined to get their girl into office and everything and everyone else be damned.  So, how do you fight someone who exploits decency as weakness without losing your soul?

You can be sure there are plenty of veterans in Barack’s campaign that are begging their candidate right now to turn them loose.  Hilarity is asking for it with this ludicrous claim that she is fully vetted while Barack is not.  Problem is she’s asking for a strategic reason, because she knows there is no other way to come out on top now except to drag both campaigns into the mud.  She’s lost this election on merit already, so she has to go old school, even against her own party.  They have no long term strategy anymore; they’re just making it up as they go along.  

I agree that Barack himself needs to try and stay on the high road as much as possible, but he can’t ignore what they are doing either.  Never underestimate the supreme gullibility of fifteen percent or so of the voting public.  They’ll swear up and down they hate negative campaigning and then turn around and respond to the most ridiculous smears and unsupported empty assertions you can imagine.  We just saw it happen. Trouble is there are enough of these mushy-headed voters to swing elections, so we can’t just cede them to a candidate willing to say anything.  The sad truth is that the political high road usually ends in a cul-de-sac.

We also have a large number of potential Barack supporters, particularly in my generation,  that want to make sure a nominee is willing to stand up and fight back when necessary, or they won’t feel comfortable heading into the fall campaign.  These are the people Hilarity is working on now.  I’m not sure how many of Barack’s younger supporters are familiar with this ‘tough liberal’ strain in the party, but they will be critical to winning this fight.  Of course, you’re not supposed to trash your own party and cozy up to the Republican nominee to demonstrate your toughness.  She’s way out of bounds now, but they just don’t care anymore.  

Ideally you have surrogates not directly connected with the campaign do the heavier lifting, as Bill Bradley was doing the other day.  That hasn’t been happening nearly enough, and I’m not quite sure why.  It may be that the campaign is afraid of turning off the best and brightest among us.  Now that a third of our superdelegate rescue squad seems to have gone missing in action at the worst conceivable moment, this won’t be pretty.  

I know many of you don’t have the stomach for this gutter warfare, and I hope you never do.  You may want to just look away for awhile and we’ll see you in September.  I hope.  As for me, my eviscerating pen has been laying right here on the desk this whole time, and I’m ready to pick it up.  Superdelegates, where are you?  Your party is about to self-destruct and you’re freezing up on us like so many deer caught in the headlights.  Only you can call off the carnage now.  Right now!  MOVE!!!!!
Barack should just resign from the campaign today. There is no way he can withstand the Clinton political machine. If Hillary cannot win at the ballot box, she'll take the entire primary elections to court. What we're going to see is a huge court fight over Michigan and Flordia delegates, lawsuits about "quetionable" votes in other states with cheery picked recounts in certain districts (sound familiar?). Obama should just pack in it now for the good of the Democratic party.
Am I the only one that thinks that allowing Florida and Michagan a doover is absolutely retarded? I don't care if 1.7 million people came out to vote, those 1.7 million people knew that there were no delegates and how do you account for the rationale people who stayed home because they knew that the delegates was not being counted? I am just saying...
These stupid diversions the Clintons are pushing are more slickly placed into a narrative for the 24/7 news channels.  Heaven forbid we slog through the details on how the Clinton camp was likely responsible for the Canadian fiasco, and how that bit of misinformation likely cost Obama critical votes in Ohio.

Nevermind the fact that Obama WON the TX Caucus, which, I believe gave him a net delegate win in TX, AND pushed him over the 'threshold' in the popular vote there, as well.

MSM isn't picking the stuff up that the blogs in the trenches are.  Why isn't this being scrutinized a little bit more?
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/a_heartbeat_away.php
Joe Vogel at the Huffington Post has an interesting perspective on all of this.  He suggests that 1627 is the new "magic number".  Since there are a total of 3253 pledged delegates, then the majority is 1627.  Whoever reaches this number first is in essence, the majority holder from the people's perspective.  The superdelegates would be hard-pressed to overturn the people's choice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-vogel/1627-is-the-magic-number_b_90675.html
When this campaign started I was genuinely excited. It was energizing to hear Obama speak of bringing change to Washington. Lord knows we need it. But the Clinton's, with their endless political strategizing, scheming, and underhanded tactics have once again turned me off. I don't care who becomes President. I don't care if they elect my neighbor's dog.

Thanks Clinton's for dousing the flame of hope.
The media has GIVEN Clinton control of the message more than anything that Clinton could do herself. Yes, it is the media!!!
This is a disgusting display of how crooked and corrupt American politics have become. We need a complete change, including getting rid of the Democratic Party.
H I L L A R Y C L I N T O N . C O M , of course. The next President of the United states and one of the greatest leaders we have ever had.
Chuck:

Hey did any of you notice that last week Barack OBama won more delegates than Hillary Clinton? (193-192)

Doesn't it seem like it should be at least mentioned?

And, hey you could even add that Obama actually won more delegates in Texas than Hillary Clinton did!  Wouldn't that make a credible news story?  

Or are you on deadline to write something more about your friends at SNL, who rightfully should get more mention in the press than the landslide in Wyoming?

What, do they start giving you guys nitrous mid-way through the campaign?
Barack is and will remain the frontrunner. He has won the Democratic primary. But the party doesn't have the leadership to call it at that and so Hillary is allowed to continue on this suicidal path taking down everything in her path, Barack, the party & herself, and clearing the way for President McCain.
Senator Hilary Clinton is the most secretive and divisive politician in America. “The Clinton campaign has publicly admitted that the only way they can still win this election is by tearing Barack Obama down.  They have called their attacks the “kitchen sink strategy,” and Senator Clinton herself has referred to it as “the fun part” of the campaign.  The result has been a constant barrage of attacks about Senator Obama’s record that they know full well aren’t true.  And yet they repeat them, over and over again, day after day, in an attempt to deceive the American people just so that they can win this election.”
“Washington [Hilary Clinton] has played too much politics with the issue of war.  It’s what got us into Iraq in the first place.  It’s why so many brave Americans have lost their lives.  And it’s why the real Commander-in-Chief test in this election isn’t about some TV ad, it’s about whether the American people will be able to trust in the judgment and the honesty of their next President.”  

Their “kitchen and sink strategy” will not work this time in Pennsylvania and any other place.

Let Americans go to USA Today and Washington Times to see what the
Clintons are up to:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-03-06-clinton-library-foia_N.htm?loc=intersti
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080307/NATION/15653289/1001

Why is press not pursuing the story? The media should pursue the story so that Senator Clinton will be fully vetted.

George
If Hillary steals this nomination, there will be no longer be a Democratic Party. Don't think for a minute that the super delegates can prevent 2000 Obama delegates from walking out of the convention if the Clintons continue their thrust with or without the help of the mainstream media (including SNL).  This is not a threat, merely a prediction:  The misbehavior of the Clintons will cause seismic shifts in the political landscape and the spawning of a real third party will manifest.
Obama '08
Your analysis about who wins which states is so right on! Primary Season is contests BETWEEN DEMOCRATIC COMPETITORS! But the General Election is a contest BETWEEN TWO OPPONENTS - ONE DEMOCRAT and ONE REPUBLICAN! To try to equate the two does not make sense. The Democrats will come together in November to OPPOSE John McCain in traditional BLUE DEMOCRATIC STATES like NY, CA, MA, NJ, MD, MN, etc. no matter WHICH candidate won these in the Primaries. If people think Obama can't win NY in November over McCain then we really are in a heap of trouble! But, the difference is that Obama has pulled in many Independents and GOP people. He has a better chance, therefore, of winning some of these Purple States like Missouri and Iowa - and Red States like Virginia and Colorado and Kansas. And on Friday the all-powerful Democratic head of Philly's "Committee" - Rep. Bob Brady - made this exact point. He said EITHER DEMOCRATIC COMPETITOR will EASILY win PA in November over our OPPONENT MCCAIN! But he said Democrats are FAMILY - these Primaries are family "squabbles" - BUT in NOVEMBER, the DEMOCRATIC FAMILY will COME TOGETHER AGAINST OUR GOP OPPONENT MCCAIN! So everyone KNOWS Obama will win the BLUE DEMOCRATIC STATES like NY, NJ, MA, and CA - but he can also EXPAND the appeal to bring in Independent and GOP voters in PURPLE and RED STATES for a victory over McCain in November!
I want to urge every Obama supporter, in particular those who have voted for him to e-mail the DNC.  We want a fair election.  Re-do's by Florida and Michigan should be paid for by Florida and Michigan if they are held again. Tell the committee you'll not vote in November if Mrs. Clinton underhandedly is given the nomination.  I don't want McCain but want a fair election process more.  Clinton cannot win the nomination without negating the majority of voters.
Thank you Hillary Clinton for not giving up. Because of you, every vote in every state counts. For the first time in decades, the primary election is finally meaningful to EVERYONE .. the way it should be. A few years ago, our governor was the policitian a la mode with no real experience and everybody voted for hm. Look where our state is today in total economic chaos. I refuse to support another politician a la mode ... Go Hillary
I agree wholeheartedly about negative campaigning. Hillary points out Obama's duplicity and it is negative campaigning. Obama's spokesperson calls Hillary a Monster and it is not negative campaigning. Duplicity is something which needs to be considered as to whether a candidate will actually fight for what they are claiming.  Being a monster has never before been brought into the decision making process as far as I know.

I agree that Obama is taking the high road.  Calling her a MONSTER is much better than doing the sexist thing and calling the _itch word.  Add that to Michelle Obama saying she wanted to scratch Bill Clinton's eyes out and this is turning into a strange campaign.  
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com
HRC and the Democratic Power-Elites are Persistent if nothing else. If they can’t steal the election with the super delegates they’ll take it by whatever means necessary.  I almost felt sorry for all the true believers who voted in the Democratic primary only to find that thousands of their votes could be nullified by a party boss or a well connected snot nosed college kid. Now after it appears that Obama would actually take the super delegate race the party bigwigs plan to change the rules again and let two scofflaw states vote after they were told they couldn’t. It’s crying shame.
Obama is the front runner but the Clinton clan has roots like an oak. SNL is to the Clintons as FOX is to Bush/McWar.

Obama is getting nipped and nibbled to death. The Clintons' aren't even concerned with Hillary's image now. They're just BENT on tanking his.

Who is the frontrunner? They only try to tackle you if you have the ball. Obama has it firmly in hand and the Clintons have no prob fouling the heck out of him to fumble.
It's really not Obama who is having a hard time 'withstanding the Clinton machine' or 'fighting back'.  I think he's wise to ignore her (still).

Mrs. Clinton does not understand that people not only like Obama (meaning his politics, style, and substance), but also that, as would no doubt be doubly reinforced in November, the country is rejecting and repudiating HER (meaning her politics, judgment, integrity, style, and substance).  If she keeps trying to shove herself down our throats (which is what her negativity is), she will continue to get the same treatment from voters.  I am of the opinion that there is nothing she can do, long term, to convince voters that she is somehow magically trustworthy, or even 'experienced' in ways that set her aside from any one of maybe 500 other American political leaders.

Short term, can she and her stooges (you've gotta admire a guy like Carville who stays with it, though you can see he hardly can--but the rest:  Lanny Davis?  Gimme a break) keep doling out the 'gotchas'?  Seems like thin gruel.  And, if the journalists are not willing to really dig in, follow the money, etc, we will keep seeing, short term, these 'spin moves' and will eventually get sick of them again.  So, should Obama join in?  No.  He shouldn't have to do the work for the rest of us.

A few fundamental questions:

1.   Who owns Hillary Clinton?
2.   What do each candidate's life choices tell us about them?  (No, not just legislative accomplishments...if that were the standard NO member of congress over the past 20 years deserves consideration)
3.  When it comes down to 'us' or 'her', which way will Clinton jump?  Not a close call here.

Obama has won and should stick with what got him here.  Cries for 'fighting back' or 'toughness' on his part (not yours, mine, or the slumbering press) are just bait which has no reason to be taken.  He is winning (start noting this about Texas, by the way).
Still not reporting of voter fraud in Texas and Ohio? Why is First Read ignoring this story? Still not reporting the Canada Connection? Why is NAFTA-gate still big news in Canada? Maybe because they see plans afoot to influence our election. No one would ever suspect sweet and silent Canada. They have their agenda, too, and it's time US media stopped sleeping through this election as they did in 2002-03!
With all due respect, I think it shows concerns on Clinton's part that she needs to reach out to Obama and float the notion among teh general public that she can neutralize Obama by offering him her VP slot, while Obama flat-out says he will not be a candidate for VP.  I know the Clintons would like the media and the public to think that they control the message right now but I not necessarily think that is the case.  And give Obama credit for winning Wyoming (handily) and for hopefully winning Mississippi tomorrow -- he derseves it.  Lastly, remember that the SNL skit had Hillary Clinton advising PRESIDENT OBAMA, not the other way around.  
That's really rich Julie "Rodham"!  How dare you say that Obama should quit when he's WINNING!!!  People who support Hillary have bought into the most manipulative campaign ever.  She might as well be running to be McCain's veep with all the ammo she is giving them to use against Obama.  She is the one who is tearing apart the democratic party!  Quit now Hillary!
For months now, MSNBC has been an extended wing of the Obama campaign machine. It is too bad that you feel frustrated when SNL turns up for Clinton.
HRC reminds me of George W. Bush in that both will do ANYTHING to win. I guess that is why  American politics  have been dominated by these two families since 1988!! This notion of allowing Florida and Michigan to have a "re-do" will certainly set a terrible precedent. It will result in complete chaos in future elections because why should ANY state follow the rules if the penalty will later be retracted and the state will be allowed to vote at the end of the day? HRC is pushing for this because it is the ONLY way that she can take the lead in the popular vote and this would pave the way for  the politico superdels  to feel  "OK" about putting her over the top. If Obama hangs onto the lead, the superdels will be apprehensive about " going against the will of the people", so we have to make sure that he loses that lead. It looks as if once again the state of Florida will play a critical role in allowing  someone to "steal" the election. I thought that 2000 was bad enough. I really don't blame Florida though because we will always have this type of chaos with politicians like George W and HRC because they will literally do ANYTHING to win.
Julie...I find your blog interesting.  Why should Obama pack it in when he is in the lead?  He has more delegates, more popular votes, and has won more states.  What logic are you using?  It sounds like the irrational, delusional Clinton logic that also says that Obama should take the VP job.  The Clinton supporters need to know that Obama is in this for the long haul.  He has and will fight the good fight.  The Clinton machine is responsible for the division in the Democratic party...no one disputes that fact.  If by some chance Clinton steals this election she will not be elected President.  The young voters will not vote, the Independents will vote for McCain, and the anti-Clinton Democrats will do one or the other.  It is obvious to the casual observer that the Clintons are in this race for the Clintons alone.  The don't care about the American people.  If they did Hillary would stop lying and start running an honest campaign.  Of course, she knows that if she does that she would lose because Barack Obama is more qualified than she is, has more experience, and actually has integrity.  I'm so sorry you drank the Clinton Kool Aid.
Regarding the "Mulligan Primaries" of Michigan and Florida... it seems like it would be unfair to move towards a mail-in primary as that is not the way the first was conducted, which would favor Clinton. It seems unfair for a caucus for the same reason, as it would favor Obama. With the entire discussion focusing on how the PEOPLE of Florida and Michigan should be heard, it only seems fair to allow do-overs in these two states to allow the PEOPLE to be heard, but to disallow the Superdelegates from those two states to cast their votes. This in my opinion would be the fairest way to conduct these do-overs. Clinton (and her superdelegate supporters from FL and MI) would be happy that they would have two more states to win (most likely) especially with the popular vote. This seems like the onyl fair way to do it...
I hope Obama agrees to just seat the Florida delegates as they are and then they can split Michigan 50/50.  He will still be winning.  It will end the wait and he will look even more of a concilitator.
The Clinton's do not want the votes there....they want the Superdelegates to not do anything until they can scramble like crabs in a bucket.
OBAMA IS NOT,NOT,NOT ELECTABLE IN NOVEMBER.....
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MILLIONS OF INDEPENDENTS WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN IF OBAMA IS ON THE TICKET
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 R E M E M B E R  M E..........
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Julie "Rodham" Cleese - couldn't disagree with  you more.  Hillary is REALLY turning off some lifetime democrats, myself included.  If she is the candidate, rest assured, I'm staying home - in all good conscience, I cannot, and will not vote for more of the same.  She is the one destroying the party and thanks in part to her nastiness I changed parties.  

BTW - I'm one of those over 50 white women she is so convinced are firmly on her side.  

PS - Bill can take a flying leap too while I'm at it.
and that's OK with you, Julie?
Why should Barack resign when Hillary is the one destroying the party? That makes about as much sense as Billary for president.
Barack Obama should just quit.  If he has not been able to deliver a knock out punch to Hillary by now how the heck could he possibly beat McCain?
Obama has divided the democratic party..what they set out to do..i believe Oprah and Obama got together,conjured a plan to start a movement and people fell for this..this is a presidential race not American Idol..this Obama needs to pullout for the good of the country
Has anyone noticed that the people coming out for Obama are Kennedy, Kerry, Hart, Dodd all tried to win the presidential election but did not.  Doesn't that say something about Obama's endorsements?
HILLARY CALLS OBAMA A EMPTY SUIT,YET THEY AGREE ON MOST OF THE ISSUES.SO MY QUESTION IS DOES THIS MAKE HILLARY A EMPTY PANTSUIT?
Julie from "Rodham",

You should just pack up your keyboard and find somewhere else to post that nonsense! The only person who needs to leave the scene is Hillary crooked Clinton.  Just because Obama is doing his best to stay above the fray and not reduce himself to ignorant tactics, doesn't mean he can't hold his own.  I think the Clintons are only ruining themselves and further dividing the Democratic party.  If this witch someohow steals the nomination, the Republicans will surely win in November.  Mark my word!

OBAMA '08!!!!!!!!!
"the media can only cover what the campaigns deliver"

This quote from the above article is a sad commentary on the state of the U.S. news media.  The media is lazy and only covers the things that they are spoon fed by the campaigns.

Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Victoria Riess...you should be better than this.  How about doing some real reporting this week instead of just repeating empty Clinton rhetoric.

Obama in '08!
I don't think the Democratic party has any control over this election.The mud slinging began many months ago---the only difference is the media and Obama treskies were slinging the mud---and having a darned good time.Now Obama is feeling a little heat and does not seem to handle it well---hence his statement that Hillary was for torture.Not a very good lie.Personally I have been turned off by the whole election and the blah,blah,blah---this vote counts,this vote does not count.Whatever will be will be---in other words my dears I don't give a damned.No more media blabbering will take my time or attention---it is all garbage.The greaybeards already know who the nominee will be.An hour or 2 caucus has left too many out of the process.I worked on the election in MI and it was very crowded and we were very busy as so many came to vote,and it was a snowstorm day.Absente ballots were at an all time high.I am angry that Obama wants to disenfranchise our votes--but I understand why he doesn't--for the same reason he took his name off the ballot.So many of you from all different states have also said FL and MI should not count---reminds me of that saying when then they came for the jews I said nothing ,etc.-----when they deny you your vote who will be there for you?    
The idea that voters in the DEMOCRATIC party could be discounted by that same party in inconceivable to me.  I am a lifelong democrat, and I firmly believe every vote should count.  The Democratic party must find a way for Florida and Michigan to be included and representative of the voters.

I received this article from a jewish friend and would like to know if this is something the media has investigated.


Obama Dodges Farrakhan Issue

Ronald Kessler

March 5, 2008



It’s one thing for Barack Obama to have a minister, friend, and sounding board who supports and admires Louis Farrakhan and whose church gave him an award.



It’s another thing for Obama to dissemble about it.



That’s what Obama did recently when he told Jewish leaders in Cleveland, “An award was given to Farrakhan for his work on behalf of ex-offenders, completely unrelated to his controversial statements.”



In fact, the award, named for Obama’s minister Jeremiah Wright Jr., was given for “lifetime achievement” and for Farrakhan’s “influence on the African-American community.” The presentation of the award last December and the accompanying article in Trumpet, Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ magazine, never mentioned ex-offenders.



On the contrary, the article in the November/December issue of Trumpet begins by calling Farrakhan — who refers to Jews as bloodsuckers and whites as blue-eyed devils — an “icon.” It ends by saying that he “truly epitomized greatness.”



The article quotes Wright heaping praise on Farrakhan, whom he helped in organizing the Million Man March in Washington in 1995. Wright lauded Farrakhan as one of the giants of the African-American religious experience in the 20th and 21st centuries.



“When Minister Farrakhan speaks, black America listens,” Wright said. “His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening. He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest.”



Hailing Farrakhan’s “integrity and honesty,” Wright went on to say, “His love for Africa and African-American people has made him an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change, and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose.”



Obama has said he found religion through Wright in the 1980s and consulted him before deciding to run for president. He prayed privately with Wright before announcing his candidacy last year.



After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, Obama issued a statement purportedly addressing the issue. However, Obama ignored the main point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Farrakhan and that Wright’s church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader.



Instead, Obama adroitly said, “I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan. I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree.”



In fact, not only is Trumpet owned and produced by Wright’s church out of the church’s offices, Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.



Entranced by Obama, the media largely ignored the story.



Having gotten away with sidestepping Wright’s adoring comments about Farrakhan, Obama went further on Feb. 24 when he spoke to Jewish leaders in Cleveland. This time he flatly said that the award was because of Farrakhan’s work with ex-offenders. To date, no news outlet has pointed out that Obama’s claim is false.



While Tim Russert asked Obama during the last Democratic debate about Farrakhan’s support of him, he never pressed him about his relationship to Wright. In his comments to Jewish leaders in Cleveland, Obama continued to tiptoe around Wright and what he stands for. As in the past, without specifying how he disagrees, Obama said he does not “necessarily” share Wright’s views, which include blaming America for the 9/11 attacks because of what the minister calls its racist and violent policies.



Obama told the Jewish leaders that the award to Farrakhan “showed a lack of sensitivity to the Jewish community.”



That is an understatement.



If John McCain’s minister, friend, and sounding board gave an award to white nationalist David Duke, would Obama have said the gesture showed “insensitivity” to blacks, or would he have issued a searing condemnation expressing outrage?



Obama went on to explain away Wright’s anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state’s support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his claim that the award to Farrakhan was made because of his work with ex-offenders, Obama made that up out of thin air. Wright’s statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way.



Wright has equated Zionism with racism and has compared Israel with South Africa under apartheid.



“The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now,” Wright has said. “Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”



Those views run parallel to Farrakhan’s, who has said that there will be “no peace for Israel, because there can be no peace as long as that peace is based on lying, stealing, murder, and using God’s name to shield a wicked, unjust practice that is not in harmony with the will of God.”



Much as most of us would appreciate the symbolism of a black man ascending to the presidency, what we have in Barack Obama is a slippery politician whose closeness to Wright underscores his radical record. Aside from showing poor judgment, it is inconceivable that Obama could be so close to Wright for more than two decades and not share at least some of his views.
Pretty much what it all comes down to is this:  the only way Obama wins if if Michigan and Florida don't count.  Indeed, if these two states had voted at the proper time, say on Super Tuesday, this thing would have been over a long time ago and Clinton would be the presumptive nominee.  So, just how silly and biased has the press become?  Well, the narrative is that Sen. Obama is noble and good for wanting to exclude Florida and Michigan and Sen. Clinton is evil and calculating for wanting to include them.  Alice, it looks like we fell through the looking glass again!
I agree with Tim Russert....if Hillary's saying out of one side of her mouth that Obama has no experience to be POTUS, but on the other side say he would make a geat vice president(one breath away from Oval Office, folks) then the HYPOCRACY has hit a new high mark.  Ya cannot have it both ways madam.  IF Hillary grabs the nomination, she'll be under tremendous pressure to name Obama as VP:  Obama, when he wins the nod, is under no oblgation WHATSOEVER to name Hillary to his ticket-------she absolutely knows this and is trying to appease all the negativity she's generating right now.  OBAMA 08
It's clear Clinton appeals to those who see themselves as the Victims of society.  too bad about all those women who can't let go of their injuries long enough to understand that they won. To still feel so victimized is more a comment on them than the realities of the workplace. I'd be embarrassed to support her.
P.S. I had no idea SNL was so OLD! Of course, I haven't watched it in years because it hasn't been funny in years.
Has Hillary experienced a mental episode this past week?
First, she lied outright to the people of Ohio about NAFTA. Don't think McCain won't exploit that. Also, how can the people of Pennsylvania trust her(or any of the rest of us)?
Then, she endorses McCain - several times. Does she really believe that 35 year experience bit she is promoting? That should really fly in the general election.
Finally, she demonstrated her complete lack of allegiance to the Democratic party and a total lack of integrity and ethics regarding her actions about the Michigan and Florida situations.
Oh, and what is this joining of forces to be on the same ticket? If you were Obama, would you want to be the one heartbeat between Hillary and the presidency? She is apparently so obsessed with becoming president that she is willing to subject her daughter and herself to continuing humiliation in front of the world.
Hillary is starting to become like Nixon.
Julie "Cheesehead", you've got to be kidding, right?!
Who Is the Front Runner?

Kind of a dumb question is it not?

Obama is the front runner. He just won in Wyoming, will win in Mississippi, leads in both the pledged delegate count and popluar vote, will do well in PA and win most State primaries that follow. If Michigan and Florida have a do-over Obama will win or break even in Michigan and stay close or break even in Florida.

Obama will be the nominee of the Dem party. If the Dem party allows the Clintons to steal this nomination Obama voters by the thousands will  abandon the party and shatter any chances of Hillary beating McCain in the General election. And you can take that to the bank. A movement has already begun to be sure that the Dem party gets this message.
Perhaps Barack isn't responding to Clinton's Desperate and Dirty political tricks because he doesn't need to. Like you said Obama has "a nearly an insurmountable margin" of delegates. But the media is enjoying Clinton's show, as proved by the unncecessary reference to something as insignificant to the race as SNL, so they're keeping this foolishness going. It's a such a shame that well run political campaigns have resorted to this foolishness in order to entertain people because that's all it's accomplishing. Barack will be the Democratic nominee. Hillary needs to pull out and put her support behind him to increase the chances for a Democrate winning the Presidency. But it's unlikely that the Clinton's would do something classy and sensible like that.
IDIOTS!!!  HOW MANY OF YOU CANNOT SEE..HILLARY WON TX (A REPUBLICAN STATE) BECAUSE REPUBLICANS VOTED FOR HER TO BLOCK OBAMA. REPUBLICANS HAD NOTHING TO LOSE EXCEPT THE ELECTION IF THEY HAD PLAYED FAIR. CAN WE SAY POLITICS AS USUAL...AGAIN.
HOG WASH !!
The Clintons should be forced out by the DNC after Sen. Obama wins MISSISSIPPI and Pennsylvania !!!
Julie "Cheesehead", you've got to be kidding, right?!


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