Sharpton threatens lawsuit over FL, MI

Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:08 AM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro

Al Sharpton is in Florida and said he is prepared to sue if Florida and Michigan’s delegates are seated as is. He said there are people who didn’t vote because they knew their vote wouldn’t count and “there must be a formula to factor” them in.

“There were many people that did not vote, because the DNC said their vote did not count,” Sharpton said on MSNBC. “Whatever way this is resolved, they must be factored in.”

Sharpton instead called for a re-do of the voting in both states. “There must be a way that people can exercise their right to vote who did not vote.”

Called it “absurd” that Michigan where uncommitted was on the ballot, would get their delegates seated as is.

”If they try to seat as is,” Sharpton said, he and the National Action Network are prepared to file suit.

As we noted in First Read this morning, Sharpton is in Florida to meet with local National Action Network chapters in Orlando, Port St. Lucie and Miami where they will plan to sign up people who will say they didn’t vote because they were “told their vote wouldn’t count. And we’ll do it in Michigan too.”

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I am tired of MSNBC reporting that Hillary won Texas. Most of your shows say Obama did not win. Keith Oberman reported this weekend in Texas (as I was in Houston, that Obama won the Texas Caucus this week and therefore OBAMA WON TEXAS. When are you going to stop spinning the news for the Clinton Criminals and their unseemingly vindictive and do-anything to win ways to get votes.

How is Clinton more electable - she was first lady and that was it.

And as far as a RE-DO - The US doens't get to "re-do" Bush's war in IRAQ, we do not get to "re-do" dropping bombs on other countries, we do not get to "re-do" the economic jam that we are in, and Clinton or McCain do not get to "re-do" the decision to give Bush the Ultimate power that he got to take us into war and absolutely ruin our economy and our standing in this world. This is not hopscotch or jump rope - this is our country. What is this telling our children - that it is okay to do something that we know is wrong because "oh yeah that's right son - you will get to "re-do" your decision". Decisions made to allow a re-do and allow superdelegates to pick Clinton will result in a McCain election. There will not be an Obama VP so stop talking about it. People are tired of Clinton and their shady dealings. That's why Obama is getting the votes. Many will stay at home or vote for McCain in the general if Clinton wins this thing.

h, tustin, california (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 11:49 AM)

It's time somebody speakup and stop Hillary from manipulating things her way. Some people didn't vote, candidates didn't campaign, DNC banned their delegates and a high percentage of voters were uncommitted. How can anyone in their right mind call it fair to accept Hillary's demands. She is basically trying to defranchise a section of the voters and also twisting the verdict of those who voted for her in the absence of a competing candidate. A re-do is the only option. Since when did we care about 10 to 15 million dollars to do a voting thing right? Hillary is clearly trying to steal the election one way or other.

JK (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 12:55 PM)

From what I have seen, Hillary Clinton did not have a problem with the Michigan and Florida primaries being disallowed by the DNC until she saw that this is the only way she could sort of catch up with Obama. Obama did not even stay on the ballot in the Michigan primary, and relatives of mine in Florida said they neither heard nor saw anything of or about him there before the primary was voted. The wisest way to straighten this whole mess out is one of four options. One, let the DNC's decision stand, and not count the Michigan and Florida delegates. The leaders in Michigan and Florida knew the rules for their Democratic primaries. The DNC told them that they could not hold a Democratic primary before 2-2--8. Two, Have the primaries in both states completely redone at the states' expense. This would be the most fair way overall, because bothe Hillary and Obama could present their case to the Michigan and Florida voters; then have the primary. Three, split the delegates 50-50. This might be fair also, because Hillary and Obama are basically running neck and neck. Four, make the Michigan and Florida delegates all superdelegates just for this election, and let them decide on their own. Fifth, apportion the Michigan and Florida delegates according to the current nationwide total popular vote in all primaries that have already been held. Hillary won big in Michigan because Obama took his name off the Michigan ballot. She won big in Florida because Obama did not make much contact in any way with the people there, according to my relatives who live there. I personally think Hillary will not want to do any of these five, and instead try to get the Michigan and Florida primary results as they stand as of now. She knows this is the only hope she has of possibly catching up with or getting ahead of Obama.

David, Clyde, Texas (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 12:55 PM)

Mary, Boston MA.

I live in FL. I have news for you. The TV I receive is Cable. It is not a FL only station. So if Obama ads ran on TV it was from the national media

With regards to Hillary campaigning here in FL. Again you in Boston, and I am originally from that area, have it wrong again.

Hillary DID campaign here in FL on the Sunday prior to the primary at the Lucky Strike Lanes on South Beach.

She was in addition standing outside the lanes holding a sign that stated in part "We want a president that can keep a promise."

Please if you are going to report on campaigning here in FL get your facts straight.

I do not pretend to discuss campaign issues as pertains to MA as it has been a few years since I lived there.

However I do agree that Sharpton should stay out of it and the DNC should abide by the rules that were originally set down.

However I will say as an Independent I would have changed my affiliation and voted but that would have been an exercise in futility since our votes would not be counted. We did have a very important Amendment that was on the ballot. And yes I voted on that because it COUNTED.

Independent Voter, Stuart, FL (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 12:55 PM)

Wow some one let that dog Al off his leash. You go for it Al it is a good big bone for you to chew!

HP Boston (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 12:56 PM)

You can call Hillary a monster,bitch or anything you want to call her. Hillary will not be distracted and distorted in anything you will throw on her because Hillary is a fighter, a doer and the most qualified to become a commander in chief. Hillary is a monster fighter for americans,she is a bitch doer for the americans and she is the champion of change and most of all she is woman with iron fist. We don't need nice words and good speeches to fight the terrorist. We don't need someone inexpirience and need to be trained in the white house and to call a meeting first before he will answer the phone at 3:00 am. Hillary can handle the huge problems that she will inherits from the Bush failed administration.Only Hillary can turn around this country into a great country again. No one else.... so my fellow americans think before you cast your vote .... please think hard and think about the future of your children.

Patrck C. Carteret, NJ (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 12:58 PM)

Florida's not conducted an election in years that could be trusted. The state parties are as ineffective as Katherine Harris is a sleazy crook. For anyone to say the states democratic presidential primary votes should be counted as is is just stupid or biased towards the ruthless Hillary Monster. If Florida pays up to do it again...fine. Then I'll stand back with the rest of the country and see if Florida can run anything but a third world election.

bill, okla (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 12:59 PM)

The Carter Center should be asked to intervene and find a solution. Partisans for one candidate or the other should not be fighting over this. Please urge the DNC to invite the participation of the Carter Center for their expertise and fairness in election solutions.

Nicholas Lefevre, Santa Cruz, CA (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 12:59 PM)

You can't seat FL without a revote...you don't need Sharpton to see that. They have settled on a revote anyway...it just matters how will it be done.

CJ (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 12:59 PM)

The resolution: the votes will be split evenly from both states.

It saves money, it is more than fair. Delegates get seated. We move on.

tommy (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 1:00 PM)

They we're told that if they moved the date up that it wouldn't count, and now are whining because they didn't listen. 2 big elections, and 2 times FL made a mess out of it. I say if it happens again their vote should never count, why should the rest of the country have to listen to this crap because of idiots.

Bill, Milwaukee, WI (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 1:00 PM)

their is a joke about sharpton and jackson form a little boy in idho refuring to what is accidental and what is not .

Dennis Cosby Margate Fl.33063 (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 1:04 PM)

Look. This is very simple.
- Obama has won more Primaries than Clinton.
- Obama has more pledged delegates from Primaries than Clinton (do the math and this is factual)
- Obama has more Caucus wins than Clinton
- Obama has more overall pledged delegates than Clinton
- Obama hs more overall delegates (including Supers) than Clinton
- Obama and Clinton have both won 7 swing states. Of these 14 total swing states, Obama has more electoral college equivalent than Clinton
- By the rules of the part and rule of law, MI and FL were stripped of their delegates. There should be some type of revote or fair system to seat them, but they should not be seated as is since it opens up rule violations in subsequent years and is unfair to the parties. If a revote happens and Obama looses, so be it, but do any Clinton supporters really think that HRC wouldn't cry foul if Obama had won these states? Be rational. Some voters were disenfranchised and didn't vote because they knew the vote would not count.
- Obama has more votes than Clinton in the Primaries
- Obama has more votes overall than Clinton
- Obama has won more contests than Clinton

The process will go on and if Clinton takes a lead, other arguements can be made, but what part of 'behind in the contest' does Clinton not understand. Their manipulation of the story and media is unreal. We've seen the Bush administration spin stories in their favor to go to war and the like. Is this what we can expect in a Clinton administration?

Jeff (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 1:06 PM)

my comment was not as long as many others

Janice, Paducah,Ky. (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:02 PM)

www.seatourdelegates.com

if you think the votes and delegates should count just sign the petition you know why it's against the law to disenfrashised voters if you want you can vote any time an for whom you want DNC or Obamabots can't stop you it even don't have to be on election day if you have a enough on the signatures on a petition... we're getting Duped by Dean(a Obamabot)he knew he couldn't stop the votes in florida that's a rupublican governor and a republican majority ran legislature. the votes has been already counted in florida Dean and the DNC is blacking the delegates Period!i repeat sign the petition

andre W twincities,minnesota (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:02 PM)

Hey guys,shake your anchors and their talking head guests awake!
Anyone who can't see why Sen. Omamba could not EVER be part of the Billary administration doesn't get him -- or his campaign message.

Hillary may try to co-opt his core campaign points "Optimism, Decency, Hope"; she may try to bribe her rally goers with her latest "I may soon have a surprise for you.Wouldn't it be great if Sen.Obama was my Vice President?" Wink, wink.
She may pretend she's winning and hope if she says it often enough, she will create some momentum. Actually, he is the winner to date. (and online professional gamblers are giving odds that he will win the nomination against McCain but that she would not win the presidency if nominated. just an interesting aside)
She may get her billionaire pals like NJ Governor Corzon to try to buy the Fl and MI elections for her, but all this says one thing.

Their core values as people are diametrically opposed. The Loch Ness gal is just trying to co-opt his campaign. But it's nice of her to make clear that she thinks he will be able to answer HER red phone with no problems, as long as it's hers, thank you very much.
Please, please love our country enough to stop playing REality TV's Survivor and give us the "information we need to govern ourselves in a democracy." (Meicklejohn quote to Congress) And please be more respectful of our first African American presidential candidate. The world is watching. MRS JEB

Mrs. John E. Brewer (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:02 PM)

This should not be about race, because Al Sharpton stepped in. Hillary has been pushing for this all long, and if thats the case than she is playing a race card. So please people do not use race. Hillary wanted this and this is what she gets. And yes Fl & Mich broke the rules. Hillary was pushing for this. I never heard not once Obama mention we should count Fl & Mich, real leaders follow rules. Like I tell people Bill had something right about Hillary, she never goes down without a fight, now that's a first for a white woman.

IndepTexas

Mega (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:03 PM)

Rev. Sharpton, wondering what side you are favoring. OBAMISTAS, again, another PILE of "everyone is against us" crap. Sharpton and OBAMA are typical POLS with an agenda. They have conned many of us "little folks, including entire staff at MSNBC.
Obama and minions have a simple agenda: nomination at any cost. Unlike Chris Matthews of MSNBC, I am not a "cadveral-obedience" grouie. Chris, get a life and become a hon-partisan journalist again.
I once favored OBAMA. In seeing his paranoid complaints. his whing, his superior condescenging attitude, I changed.
I am a "minority" member. I do not have to vote for another minority member. BO, too bad, you started believing the MSNBC hype that you were the second coming. You are not. You are gifted POL, nothing more, nothng less.

Esqui (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:03 PM)

Independent Voter, Stuart, FL, what you are neglecting is this: Obama ran national ads, and let them run in Florida. Clinton ran national ads, and had them excluded from Floria. I may not be in Florida, but I know this as fact.

Mary, Boston, MA (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:03 PM)

Jeff, it ain't over till it's over. Our votes will count too.

Paula, Chapel Hill, NC (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:04 PM)

Obama has sent lawyers out where ever he loses...
Ohio, Texas, and Nevada... that's how he won his first election to the Illinios state senate... just "google" Obama first run for illinois state senate... He always has a team of laywers to do his dirty work! "A new kind of poliitcs" yeah, right?!

angela tucci, Orlando, FL (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:06 PM)

All of you who are arguing that Al Sharpton should stay out of it are full of it. All the candidates have agreed not to campaign in Florida and Michigan. But, sleazy Hillary went ahead with full intention to be able to use it later on if she was falling behind in the campaign trail. Now, she's trailing behind HAE wants the votes to count.
Yes, Sharpton should step in and sue if he has to. You can call him whatever you want; at least he's not sleazy like Hillary. He's only asking for JUSTICE...

Fran, Vernon HIlls, Illinois (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:09 PM)

Obama needs Sharpton to fight his battle???? I thought Obama was a leader?? If he can't speak for himself,he can forget my vote.

yolanda alvarez,Fort Wayne,IN (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:10 PM)

I agree with anyone (yes, even Al Sharpton) on the point that is would be outright WRONG if Michigan delegates were seated as is. No other candidates besides Hillary Clinton were on the ballot. So, a re-do MUST occur there. However, Florida is a different issue. All candidates names were on the ballot, and not candidate campaigned there. Therefore, the playing field was completely even, so it is plausible to seat the delegates as was voted on their primary date.

Now one might argue that many voters did not go to the polls in FL because they felt their vote would not count, but you cannot argue that there was a greater number of Obama voters that did not go to the polls over Clinton voters (or vice versa). But, you could still argue that these same voters would have gone to the polls if they had known that their vote was actually going to count (the main basis now of the idea to have FL do a re-do too).

A mail ballot is an interesting idea, and I think it will help provide a little more legitimacy to this entire process.

Randy, Long Beach, CA (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 2:11 PM)

Oh here come the big racist AL SHARPTON, he needs to stay the hell out of my State, FL.. What a joke he is, I was thinking about voting for Obama, fat chance when you have idoits like Al, and Jesse running around. Gee who is he going to want fired now. Al is nothing but a big mouth racist and needs to go away.

cindy, tampa, fl. (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:03 PM)

I don't trust the mail-in system. Who RECEIVES the ballets? Who COUNTS the votes? WHO determines that ALL votes are counted? We already have reports of votes being destroyed in primaries. People have been caught on tape running away with ballets that ended up at the police station. This is scary!! I wonder how things would be going if Clinton had won 28 states and was ahead in the popular vote!

Elizabeth Miller, Norfolk, VA (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:03 PM)

I'm having a hard time understanding why the democratic national comittee gets to tell people when they can vote instead of their state. Seems kinda dumb that their state holds electins but the DNC says "we don't want to count that one - we didn't say you could do it."

Dave (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:03 PM)

LET'S BE FAIR AMERICANS. LET'S RE-DO THE VOTES AND LET THE WINNER BE IDENTIFIED FAIRLY. WE DON'T WANT ANY WHINNING LATER. THIS ELIMINATES EXCUSES.

ROBERT, SACTO,CA. (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:04 PM)

Florida is a no brainer. The votes and delegates must be awarded/seated as is. Both candidates were on the ballot and both obeyed the rules by not campaigning there. Therefore, both were on the playing field/ in the game under the same rules. Howard Dean (an Obama supporter) says this wouldn't be fair because it would be a disadvantage for Obama since Clinton had name recognition. Floridian's are not that politically inept as to not have known who Obama was. There had already been many televised Democratic debates and Obama had already won states prior to Florida's Primary. Florida's Primary must be awarded, as is, instead of costing millions to redo a Primary where both candidates were on the ballot and obeyed the rules. To appease DNC/Howard Dean's mind set, Michigan should revote as a caucus instead of a Primary because in caucuses, Clinton has the disadvantage as uncontestably proven by the Texas 2 step. Clinton's base of working middle class and seniors are limited by the two hour framework of a caucus. This solution would ensure all the voters' voices of both states be heard, wouldn't cost outrageous millions, and would be a fair balance for both candidates.If DNC/Dean still states this wouldn't be fair to Obama, then let's revote every prior caucus as a Primary to be fair to Clinton. The only other fair solution, would be to revote both states as Primaries--but no one wants to pick up the cost. Mail-in ballots is unacceptable, unfair, because seniors are vulnerable to the kind of fraud that can take place through the mail--which unfairly disadvantages Clinton since one of her core bases is seniors. RB in PA

rbrannan cranberry twp PA (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:05 PM)

AL Sharpton

We Dont Need You . Are Your Friend Jessie

Obama Supporter

Charles Ellis Lake Charles La (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:05 PM)

I adore Hillary and Obama so I am really torn about my decision. Florida and Michigan...what's right. Both states screwed up and now we are all filled with conspracies and opinions but the truth is it can't be fixed and all we are doing is dividing our party and making the Republician's look tempting for those undecided. Sharpton or Jackson, hell, it could have Rush and this still would have both the same discussion. World, looking out and always seing black and white is really getting old...move on.

San Antonio (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:06 PM)

No one has brought up the fact that the Democratic Party in Florida had to hold their primary early because the Republican controlled state legislation voted to move it up -
the Dems would not have been able to hold a separate primary , as it is paid for by the State of Florida-
So we have the Republcans to thank for this 'mess'and the DNC, who would not waive the rules knowing this

Ray Dell - Cape Coral , Fl (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:07 PM)

Obama does not need (or can afford)the appearance of race being played in this campaign by anyone especially Sharpton and and Jackson. He should quietly ask them to shut up and have a more neutral party bring up these issues. It's a shame we are still at an era where we need to worry about race being an issue.

Fletch, Honolulu Hawaii (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:07 PM)

This stinks. The Republican governor from Fla is a lame duck. He knew the consequences of his actions. The Mich Gov followed like a rock. greed and Power. Remember, the republicans want to promote HRC so they can beat her in November. Without Obama, HRC is dead meat. Empty barrels make a lot of noise(Clinton's). Al Sharpton does not speak for me but His cause is just whether u like it or not. Jesse, I'm not sure, but Al is going to do his thing and thats good. HRC is behind all the scandalls going on against Obama. She can't win without cheating and you fools are going to help her. HRC Lied about her foreign policy and national security experience. She lied about the NAFTA incident. Liar Liar you pants are on fire.

Caldog (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM)

To Kdicello and all the others who wonder who will be running the Country if Obama is elected or who blame Obama becuase Sharpton has the nerve to exercise his constitutional rights. I have never been a Sharpton fan but he happens to be right on this issue. I doubt he asked Obama's permission to make any statements. To suggest that becuase he spoke out that it in someways indicates that he will run the country if Obama is elected is just plain stupid. Will Limbaugh run the country if McCain is elected President? Hillary knew the rules and she broke them. Period. Use any racial profiling you wish, but Hillary is trying to steal the election becuase she is behind in every category and doesn't have a shot at winning playing far. There is no racism in it. And to anyone who says Obama should wait his turn. THIS IS HIS TURN. And he will be great President for all of the people, even the stupid ones.

Sylvia Perkins (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:16 PM)

If any revoting takes place, then the DNC should be the ones to pay for it. THey are the ones who shut out the voters and only because the race is gridlocked is it even an issue. My state has too many other Important issues to spend money on, then this.

MLJ, FWB, FL (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:24 PM)

I am a republican who voited for Obama. Hilary and Bill and just an extention of the Bush's with a different set of special interest buds. If Hilary wins this primary i will vote Republican - just like every other republican i know. So I the Dem's really want to win they should pick the canidate who will win against the Republicans in the long run. As for Michigan and Floridy - they broke the rules - Hilary and Obama both agreed in the beginning - so if the people in that state want to be counted, they must revote.

Robin, Dallas, TX (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:28 PM)

I want to know why my remarks are not being allowed. My remarks are not nearly as bad as most on this post. I'm not the only one who thinks Obama is a whinney baby and that was the worst thing I said. Why are you excluding me?

Janice,Paducah,Ky. (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:28 PM)

Typical stupid american comments focusing on Al Sharpton, as opposed to the actual issues of what occuring right under your noses. Americans need to wake up,drop your biases and pull your heads out of your a$$e$. Your country, your constitution and way of life are being taken from you, but the easiest method of disarray and distraction is to keep the people everyone loves to hate front and center despite your country crumbling around you. Check out your falling dollar, lost of constitutional rights,corrupted election process, exported jobs,illegal immigration, falling standard of living and the list goes on and on daily. Oh well, we can still blame the blacks.

Danny Charlotte, NC (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:32 PM)

And he will be great President for all of the people, even the stupid ones.
********

Even you Sylvia, even you.

Duh. (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:36 PM)

Al Sharpton has always been a loudmouth moron seeking the limelight. For 20 years, he has been a public buffon. From his 1987 leadership of the Tawana Brawley hoax (15-year old African American girl who was found in dumpster after being missing for four days wound up accusing six white men, including cops, of raping her), which vaulted him into public consciousness, to his less-than searing analysis in 2007 of Mike Nifong, Duke lacrosse players' prosecutor ("I know this DA is probably not one that is crazy. He would not have proceeded if he did not feel that he could convict."), Sharpton has shamelessly made a fool of himself.

In this instance, he shows his fundamental ignorance of how the law works. To sue someone else, a party must be aggrieved. That means, one has to show that, as a result of the actions of the defendant, he suffered harm of some type as a result of some action by the defendant or defendants. Neither Al Sharpton nor National Action Network can show that either suffered harm because some voters in Michigan and Florida didn't vote because they thought their votes wouldn't count.

In the end, it's just dumbbell Al struggling to get noticed yet again. When will idiots like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stop foisting their alleged leadership on us?

Michael M. (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:38 PM)

Being in Michigan I want to say I am not paying for a do over. Everyone knew the positions before moving the primary (MI that they were breaking the rules and the DNC that the delagates would be lost). So why change anything. Don't count the delegates and move on!

Don (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:41 PM)

Wondered when Sharpton would rear up and roar. He should stay far away. There is more I could say but will refrain. God Bless America. You are going to need it if Obama takes hold.

HeartsofGold (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:42 PM)

Al Sharpton needs to stay out of business he doesn't belong in. I am a Democrat living in Florida and I took the intiative to go and vote on January 29th - even knowing that the vote could possibly not count. Why did I vote? Because I knew that something like this would happen. I can't speak for Michigan, but if individuals in Florida decided not to go vote because there was the possibility that their votes wouldn't count, that was their CHOICE to make. All candidates had their names on the ballot here and everyone had the opportunity to vote for the person they supported.

You'd think that after 2 Presidential Elections, the DNC would have realized the importance of Florida's votes. Instead, they chose to play chicken and look at where they are at now...scrambling to fix this fine mess they've gotten us into. Great job, Mr. Dean!

I digress...Al Sharpton needs to mind his own business and let State party leaders fight it out with the DNC.

And by the way, there will probably be individuals out there saying I'm a Clinton fan and that's why I'm arguing the position of counting the votes already cast. Wel, sorry, I voted for Obama, which didn't do too well here, but fair is fair.

Jorge, Miami Lakes, Florida (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:43 PM)

I think that a lot of people on this thread are very closed minded and outright racist. Its not about Obama playing the race card, because he never aligned himself with Jackson or Sharpton.

I think that many of you on here need to face the reality that at this point the race has come down to being played dirty; mainly because Hillary lost her pledged delegate lead and is looking for the superdelegates to put her over the top.

As so many leaders have said; if that happens we can all look forward to another four or eight years of W the II in John McCain.

So stop always making everything a black and white issues and learn to accept that we are all different and each of us has a voice, once we cast our vote.

Seriously, the way that most people act in this world makes me proud that I don't have children yet and furthermore makes me doubt wanting to have any to come into this mess.

Anonymous, Philadelphia, PA (Sent Monday, March 10, 2008 3:47 PM)

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