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Hillary on the attack in PA

Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:05 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
HARRISBURG, Pa. -- After kicking off her Pennsylvania campaign with a positive speech to an energetic crowd in the northeastern part of the state yesterday, Hillary Clinton brought the fight against Obama here to the capital on Tuesday, hitting her rival on energy policy, NAFTA and Iraq and reprising her campaign's latest attack theme that paints him as a man of talk and not action.

Moments before the event was scheduled to begin in a packed auditorium here, the theme to "Rocky" blasted through the speakers, that classic movie about a fighter that was set in the Keystone State. The New York senator portrays herself as a leader who is ready to fight to get things done.

Today, she began by linking the wisdom of the nation's founders to her campaign.

"Right out of Pennsylvania came so much of the genius that created our government," she said, "and it was a unique combination of the lofty goals and values that kept us looking toward a better tomorrow and an understanding of what it would take. I think we're at a turning point moment in American history right now where we are called upon to look toward the future with confidence and optimism, but to understand what it will take, the hard work to translate all of those hopes and dreams into the reality of people's lives right here in Harrisburg. That is what my campaign is about."

And she continued the hope versus hard work theme she's been highlighting for months now, as she spoke about making a better future for America's children.

"We can't just hope that it happens," she said. "We can't just wish it happens. We can't just gaze heavenward and cross our fingers that it happens. We have to be prepared to work for that future. That's going to require, first and foremost, a new president in the White House."

Clinton focused on the economy and the need to create more good paying jobs and went on to lay out her agenda on healthcare, education and ending the war in Iraq, before turning her attention to Obama.

"Today my opponent is here in Pennsylvania talking about energy policy, and I think specifically talking about wind energy and that's great," she said, "except in 2005 when we had a chance to say 'no' to Dick Cheney and his energy bill, my opponent said 'yes' and voted for it with all of those tax subsidies and giveaways that have been used by the oil companies and others to retard the development of clean, renewable energy. Really when you think about what we have to do, it's not gonna happen just by asking people. It's not gonna happen just by saying don't we all agree. We're going to have to fight to make the changes against the special interests that dominate Washington.

"In Ohio, we just finished a campaign talking about NAFTA and trade. I have said I will renegotiate NAFTA. I will make sure it reflects what we have learned over the last 14 years and my opponent said one thing in Ohio and then his top economic advisor told the Canadian government, don't worry what he says, that's just politics. You know, the same thing happened about Iraq. I've been saying I will start to withdraw our troops within 60 days. My opponent has said that he'll have them all out within 16 months and then one of his top foreign policy advisors tells that foreign press, well don't pay any attention to that, that's just talk during the campaign. I gotta tell you, there's a big difference between talk and action, but if you're going to talk then you ought to mean what you say, so people can count on it."

Monday in Scranton, Clinton never mentioned Obama by name, referring only to "my opponent" when speaking about the differences between their healthcare plans. Today, the campaign telegraphed her planned attacks on Obama by sending out excerpts of her Harrisburg speech to reporters several hours before the senator arrived here, but her actual comments, which came near the very end of her 35-minute speech, were more brief than her prepared remarks.

The experience argument remains central and something her surrogates talk about consistently. Harrisburg Mayor Stephen R. Reed opened the event, saying that experience mattered.

"The Republicans have selected their candidate," Reed said. "John McCain is a good man, and there is zero, zero doubt, ladies and gentleman, the central theme of his campaign will be his experience. We cannot allow us to be vulnerable on this point. We must not allow doubt to determine the outcome. Experience does count. Hillary Clinton has it."

Clinton didn't forget to mention her roots in this state, where she spent time as a child, sprinkling her remarks with references to her family and fond memories.

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Yawn....Next Please !!
For those of you that claim the Clinton Camp contacted Canada you should do some research.

Both the Clinton campaign and the Canadian government, deny that a representative from the Clinton campaign met with any representative from Canada.


ARE WE SAYING THE CANADIAN GOVERMENT IS LYING

and

Obama said nobody from his camp had a meeting with the Canada people. ONLY after the AP ousted him he acknowledge it.

double talk express.

Clinton 08
Why bother with the charade Hillary? Just come out and reveal what you and your embittered old women supporters really feel? You know. Like what Geraldine Ferraro said:
"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman ... he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept".
Some much for that last 10% of black support.

Hillary Clinton. She'll say anything. And change nothing.
[Monday in Scranton, Clinton never mentioned Obama by name, referring only to "my opponent" ...]
--Yet, if she were to make her pitch on the Lifetime network, he would simply be known as 'that bastard'.
She better hope nobody in that crowd got a hold of Greg Craig's memo blowing her dog and pony show act out of the water. Rage on Mad Madame. LOL
Tell the lie enough times and people will accept it as truth.

Sen. Clinton misrepresnts Obama's HOPE as lack of action. In truth, the HOPE is because his inclusive nature will ALLOW action. The gridlock of decades is in jeapordy. Not so with Clinton.
Tell the lie enough times and people will accept it as truth.

Sen. Clinton misrepresnts Obama's HOPE as lack of action. In truth, the HOPE is because his inclusive nature will ALLOW action. The gridlock of decades is in jeapordy. Not so with Clinton.
Then she said, "I am the candidate of choice for Rush Limbaugh because the Republicans want to beat the bejesus out of me. And I am the choice of the Bush white house in Canada. And I am the choice of many indicted millionaires. And I was the choice of Tony Rezko and Norman Hsu. And I was the choice of Vince Foster and Peter Paul. And I am still the choice of Ken Starr because he isn't done with me yet. Everyone wants to see me run for president. I just can't imagine why I'm so popular."
How good are experienced presidents, anyway? Suppose you had to choose between two Presidential candidates, one of whom had spent 20 years in Congress plus had considerable other relevant experience and the other of whom had about half a dozen years in the Illinois state legislature and 2 years in Congress. Which one do you think would make a better President? If you chose #1, congratulations, you picked James Buchanan over Abraham Lincoln. Your pick disagrees with that of most historians, who see Lincoln as the greatest President ever and Buchanan as the second worst ever, better only than Warren "Teapot Dome" Harding. Both served in what was probably the most difficult period in American history, where slavery and secession tore the nation asunder.

Obama 08
Clinton better be careful, NAFTAgate's not done and in spite of denials she's still implicated.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/reportsfromabroad/macdonald/20080310.html
Great, another 6 weeks of attacks from a candidate who has no chance of winning the Democratic primary. Just what this party needs. I think PA will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
And the spin goes on.  What the Clinton years has given us is the Clinton-brand of political water-boarding.  Having to fend-off HRC will make Obama a formidable opponent for Jonny, but he needs to take control of the dialog and set the recoed straight.

Obama in 08
Go Madam President!
Memo to Hillary:  The point of having experience is using it to make the right decisions in a crunch.  You, and your buddy McCain, FLUNKED THE TEST by approving the invasion of Iraq on skimpy evidence of WMD.  Obama, unlike you and McCain, would have made the correct decision had he been President in 2003.  Your declaring yourself and your equally impetuous friend McCain qualified to serve as Commander-in-Chief, and Obama not qualified, is a joke.
Man in one side of her mouth Hillary is running as COMMANDER-in-Chief and out of the other side she is running for VICTIM-in-chief.  Man it makes your head spin.  Now is Obama qualified to be Commander-in-Chief or not. I mean, from what I have seen your experience consists of cocktail parties with diplomats; at least Obama went with Lugar on a diplomatic mission to secure loose nukes in the former Soviet Union. I wonder which is better 'experience' for that 3 a.m. call?  
A large portion of my family lives in Pennsylvania, and they are ALL white educated people. They will NOT VOTE for Clinton. As I stated they are ALL educated and do not fall for the Clintons unethical antics.
interesting to see if the people of PA are going to be fooled by this garbage. getting your passport stamped counts for experience in her mind. i guess laura bush will be running on the "experience" platform in 2016.
She links the wisdom of the Founding Fathers in Philadelphia to her campaign..wasn't she the woman who used to talk to the late Mrs. Roosevelt?  I didn't know that particular lady was from Philly...
z9No dvrewier, I guess than nancy Reagan consulting astrologers...)
Cue up the Rocky music...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGcwX34Yiv4
In his event opening statement Mayor Reed said: "We must not allow doubt to determine the outcome.".......It sounds to me like he's endorsing Barack Obama! Barack, who has worked so hard to create Hope and new ideas for our country. Hillary "monster" Clinton has been busy spreading DOUBT, and as Mayor Reed said: "We must not allow doubt to determine the outcome."
Hillary has no relevent foreign policy experience (other than authorizing the biggest blunder in US foreign policy) and every domistic issue she has been involved has been a disaster (closed door health care).

Is she running on any REAL platform other than the name Clinton-- which is losing crediblity everytime she opens her mouth.

Clinton is either can't do math or she's a theif (how else is she going to win the nomination)!
Still NO nswers from Obama on:

Obama's friend and property deal partner Rezco.

Obama's racist pastor Wright,who praises Farrakhan, leader of Nation of Islam  and traveled to Libia with him.

Obama's 20 years membership in an all black racist church.

Obama's friend terrorist William Ayers.
Still NO nswers from Obama on:

Obama's friend and property deal partner Rezco.

Obama's racist pastor Wright,who praises Farrakhan, leader of Nation of Islam  and traveled to Libia with him.

Obama's 20 years membership in an all black racist church.

Obama's friend terrorist William Ayers.
Still NO nswers from Obama on:

Obama's friend and property deal partner Rezco.

Obama's racist pastor Wright,who praises Farrakhan, leader of Nation of Islam  and traveled to Libia with him.

Obama's 20 years membership in an all black racist church.

Obama's friend terrorist William Ayers.
Once again Hillary falls back on this "experience" of hers. Well lets define experience. Is it defined as that which is obtained while serving as an elected official or is it the happenstance of your husband being a past president of the United States, hosting dinner parties, and being in the presence of other experienced politicians and claiming their experience as your own? If the latter is the case, laura bush might as well jump on the republican ticket for all the "experience" she's gained these last 8 years. Wake up Hillary supporters! This woman is power hungry and will stop at nothing to get it even it includes lying and exageration.
"...Hillary Clinton. She'll say anything. And change nothing. ..."
sickofitall, philly (Sent Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:12 PM)

That sounds more like Obama's m.o. than Hillary's.
All mouth, and no action.
Yep, that's our "Pimp Daddy B"
Is this Hillary's only public appeearance today/tonight?  So she will have to AGAIN avoid congratulating Senator Obama on his 30th win.

Or is it 31 since now Texas has certified the Cacus results and Obama WINS TEXAS.
um, didn't the clintons sign NAFTA into law? oh wait, hillary is running for president now. oh, forget all of that happened, okay? and in 2004 she called NAFTA a "net positive" for america. what? oh, that'll upset the people of PA? okay, NAFTA's terrible now. it's all obama's fault. yeah, he's the guilty one. plus, he's black, right? blacks get all the breaks. and he may or may not be a muslim, right? can't be sure. he'll let your children be bombed at 3 a.m., too. yep, vote for obama and your kids die. geez. the people of ohio and texas fell for it. wonder if everyone in PA will believe the lies, too.
Tell the lie enough times and people will accept it as truth.

**************************

That is what Obama Strategy is. isn't?
New Wave (Sent Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:09 PM):

DITTO. YAWNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!! Next please.
Tit for tat, mark for mark, McCain's experience vastly overwhelm's Clinton's exaggerated claims.

You don't go toe to toe with someone on an issue when that issue vastly favors your opponent.  You gotta find another reason, a reason why that advantage is a disadvantage.  You gotta find a reason why a different advantage is better.

"Experience" is clearly in McCain's column.  Clinton cannot win that battle.

Instead, "change" and "judgment" are clearly not in McCain's column.  Unfortunately, they aren't in Clinton's column either.  They are in Barack's column.

'08bama!
On PA - The vast majority of the state's Democrats live in Southeastern PA (Philly and the burbs). This is Obama country, make no mistake about it, we're not Ohio. The state's going to be alot closer then out-of-staters think.
isn't there a vote going on in mississippi today? oh wait, the clinton's didn't give the media permission to cover it.
yeah, as if she was a trainer of attack dogs before.
Hillary, please attack Obama in Miss. not in PA. You care nothing about the United States of America but about Big States of America, the one Kerry won but lsot the United States to Bush.
I am not sure when will your head empty itself of all the negatives and focus on positives and work on legitimate attacks, such as comparing your opponent's policies with yours.
You are becoming an example of a nasty female politician for women if they easily buy  your arguments.
Why didn't Hillary mention that she didn't say no to Bush's authorization to invade Iraq? I think it's funny to turn NAFTA around on her opponent when her husband is the one who signed it into law.

For some reason Hillary has a hard time taking ownership of policies that she championed. One being NAFTA and the other being the invasion of Iraq.

I trust that the voters of Pennsylvania will see right through Hillary's pathetic attempts to hide from both of these.  
The central theme is good judgement and the future of the nation and the party. The democrats have nothing new to run on with Hillary. The party needs to decide if it wants to elect more candidates to congress and actullly do things or try to run on the divisive politics of the past and return to the partisan quagmire.  
I find it interesting that Obama was not even in the senate when they had to vote for Bush's proclomation.

OBama was not privy to all the information that was shown to Sen. Clinton and the rest of congress and Senate.

Obama was still in Chicago voting "Present" on issues because he wouldn't take a stand on anything.....then when he did get to congress he voted the SAME as Hillery Clinton.

Change???????  I don't think so.  JUst more of Obama's lies.
Nicholas,
You write and talk more like an ignorant fool than someone who researchs thoroughly. Often I check facts before I challenge others.
If you think she has demosntrated honesty, you are way out of touch with reality. Go to www.factcheck.org or some other sites like that. And if she called -- or her campaign called -- and actually told Canadian officals to disregard her NAFTA stance, you call her honest. Maybe your definition of honesty is the opposite of honesty.
From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
Per the Toronto Globe and Mail, in a story that was the lead on the paper’s front page today, that call to the Canadian embassy was actually from the Clinton campaign, not Obama’s:

“Mr. [Ian] Brodie, [PM Harper’s chief of staff], during the media lockup for the Feb. 26 budget, stopped to chat with several journalists, and was surrounded by a group from CTV. The conversation turned to the pledges to renegotiate the North American free-trade agreement made by the two Democratic contenders, Mr. Obama and New York Senator Hillary Clinton.

“Mr. Brodie, apparently seeking to play down the potential impact on Canada, told the reporters the threat was not serious, and that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign had even contacted Canadian diplomats to tell them not to worry because the NAFTA threats were mostly political posturing. The Canadian Press cited an unnamed source last night as saying that several people overheard the remark.

“The news agency quoted that source as saying that Mr. Brodie said that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign called and was ‘telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt.’
"That's going to require, first and foremost, a new president in the White House"

Uhhh, that is a given --- as far as I know.
You know, the sad thing is that someone had to resign over stating the completely obvious fact that Hillary Rodham Clinton is a monster.

Way to take one for the team Powers!
NO YOU CAN'T!! NO YOU CAN'T!!

Clinton '08
She is most experienced in the ugly game of politics. Obama is starting to hit his stride though. He is framing her wild talk - stuff like the idea of him as a VP and the idea he hasn't crossed some kind of threshold (huh? I thought the voters get to decide who crosses?) as it should be: as the politics of old, the past versus the future. I think the argument is on his side. Keep going Hillary. Drive up them negatives. By the way, regarding the article: how about some analysis rather than a mere stitching together of campaign rhetoric straight from the horse's mouth?
Sen.  Clinton hides from nothing........unlike Obama who won't asnwer anything.

He got very upset with the press when they tried to question him on Rezco, and walked out on them.

Obama is all talk and no action.

Pathetic. Amazing that she still gets the turnout that she gets. Bill Clinton 2004: "if you have to choose between hope and ideas or fear, always choose hope" Where was "the monster" on that day?
The fighting Leona debuts in PA - this will wear thin over the coming weeks.  As things quiet down, and the good people of PA start to think carefully, Obama's persistent, rational argument will take hold.

Meanwhile look for a whole new wave of Democratic voters to register.  Even if Leona takes a few more delegates in PA than Barack, that will be more than equalized in NC and Indiana.  Leona doesn't stand a chance.  Barack already leads by 12% of the pledged delegates, and will need only a fraction of the supers to put him over the top.
The next President of the United States (Barack Obama) is holding a town hall meeting in PA right now.  Where's the FirstRead coverage? :-)
I'm still unclear how this math thing can possibly work for her.  Yeah, she's going to win PA, but not by enough to make a real dent in Obama's delegate lead.  Even if they re-do FL and MICH (also states she'll likely win) the margins again just won't be great enough.  

The fact that she's still in it tells me that something incredibly un-democratic is in the works.  There's just no way she can get the nod w/o a ton of non-vote help.  
"...Tell the lie enough times and people will accept it as truth.
Sen. Clinton misrepresnts Obama's HOPE as lack of action. In truth, the HOPE is because his inclusive nature will ALLOW action. The gridlock of decades is in jeapordy. Not so with Clinton. ..."
SL, NJ (Sent Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:15 PM)

Tell us WHY Republicans won't treat Obama the same way they treated Carter? The same way they treated Clinton?
The truth is, there isn't any reason why they wouldn't and it's exactly what they're going to do once the campaign starts for the general election itself.
You make it sound like he has "svengali" like powers over the G.O.P.
But, you're going to find out, and soon, that he doesn't.
They're going to eat this guy's lunch like he was the "red headed step child" of the schoolyard....and ya' know what?
I can't wait to see it, because of all the "smack" he and his supporters talk.
Super Delegates take note; if you allow Obama to walk away from Denver with the nomination, John McCain will CLEAN HIS CLOCK!



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