Bill heckled again

Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:28 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
ERIE, Pa. -- Bill Clinton has gotten used to this by now.

Early on in an event in Northwest Pennsylvania, Clinton was beginning a regular line in his speech comparing the state of the nation now to when he was president in the 1990s. A young man then started shouting at the former president, repeating "1991 Bilderberg." After a moment or two, Clinton stopped trying to speak over him and acknowledged the heckler.

"Look, this is the deal, folks," he said. "All these people that are paranoid about the world come and scream at me everywhere."

The man said that if Clinton heard him out, he'd leave, so Clinton did so. But as he shouted about Bilderberg, NAFTA and the Trans-Texas Corridor, the crowd drowned him out with boos.

Eventually, Clinton rather calmly addressed the remarks of the heckler. "You said you would go if I answered the question," Clinton said. "All right, here's the answer."

He said he did attend the 1991 conference of global players at the invitation of Vernon Jordan. "To the best of my knowledge, NAFTA was not discussed by anybody in my presence," he said. "I was talking to people who happen to be from Europe who did not give a rip about NAFTA."

Clinton then gave a general defense of his role in NAFTA, saying he tried to get labor and environmental standards into that agreement, "but I couldn't because it was already negotiated when I got there." He also said that as president, he enforced trade laws more than the current Bush administration has.

"I had a very good time talking to those Europeans about European affairs and what was gonna happen to Russia, but I was not somehow polluted by it into sacrificing Americas economic interest," he said. "America did a lot better when I was president than they have in this decade and that is the truth. Now goodbye."

And with that, he waved him off.

Clinton enjoyed an otherwise rousing welcome in Erie during the visit, which he said brought back memories of a trip during his '92 campaign.

"When we started our bus tour we pulled into Erie at about a quarter to two in the morning and there were still 5,000 people waiting for us," he told the nearly 2,000 who waited about 45 minutes for him at East High School today. "I thought to myself we are gonna change this country and now we need to change this country again."

He then referred to the current race, acknowledging record turnouts and financial contributions. "We got almost two million new donors, many of them of very modest means who give over the Internet. People wanting to have a piece of their country's future."

He did not refer to last night's contest in Mississippi.

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And still, Hillary gets a complete pass on the NAFTA issue. It was either a good agreement worth signing into law or it wasn't.

Ian (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:40 PM)

Why do the Democrats keep raising the Race Issue?
I think it is to appeal to those voters who are prejudiced and will vote accordingly. FERRARO SHOULD SHUT UP AND GO AWAY. (P.S. Ferraro's comments ARE expected to help Hillary in PA, unfortunately).

sick of Hillary dirty tricks (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:43 PM)

It is ashame that people will heckle others. We need to return to some level of civility. That means rallies are not the best place for asking questions. If you have a problem, then you look for an opening. From this report, it sounds like Clinton was nice enough to take the time to answer the question. The only really fair place that someone should be interrupted is by the justices of the Supreme Court when presenting arguements (that is provided they have enough intelligence to ask questions; I doubt that the briefs filed can answer all the questions all the time).

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:44 PM)

Under Bill Clinton, democrats lost control of both houses of congress, significant numbers of governorships and state legislatures. The Clintons did more to empower republicans than anything the republicans could think up on their own.

Now Hillary Clinton is demonstrating her willingness to kill the democratic party forever rather than admit defeat to a smarter, better, more inspiring leader.

Democrats need to wake up to the serious dangers these two megalomaniacs pose to our party and our nation.

SUZANNE (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:45 PM)

Ask him what he thinks about Eliot Spitzer.

Monica's ex- Cigar Supplier (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:46 PM)

Even with the mistake of NAFTA, he's still the best President that I've seen in my lifetime!

Todd, Vicksburg, Mich. (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:46 PM)

I'm an Obama supporter and haven't been a fan of how either Clinton's have handled the campaign these past 13 (or so) months....not 1 bit....but, this time Clinton sounded like the Clinton of the 90's...the one we always knew and loved...he handled that heckler very well. It's unfortunate for Hillary that she doesn't possess the lingual skills as Bill does. I don't think the Clinton's have deserved much credit at all through this whole event, but Bill gets a +1 on this one...and that's coming from an Obama supporter/contributer/campainer...

O8'AMA

Sean, Atlanta, GA (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:46 PM)

Who wants to ask Hillary about Tata Corporation. They are an India-based company who teaches companies how to export their jobs to India. Hillary rails against NAFTA and free trade in Ohio and PA, but she actually helped Tata to move to Buffalo, stating they would bring jobs to Buffalo. When cornered on the impact, she stated sheepishly the effect was only 10 jobs. Just another politician spewing lies. Tell a friend.

Scott, Seattle WA (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:48 PM)

You da man Bill.
They can wail and cry but your superior intelligence and charm are ever ready. And no you are not responsible for all that is wrong with the power hungry lunatic some call a president, and all his evil doers. There are so many of them and they are everywhere. God loves stupid people he made so many of them, he shoulda been a woman things would be better. If God was a woman there would be no 80,000 charge for sex. She could just have you die happy, always leave you weak and smiling!

HP Boston (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:49 PM)

LoL, I like how they keep talking about all of their "new donors" and money raised by ripping off Obama's strategy. Why didn't they stick to $2,000 a plate luncheons from the special interests they always have and always will represent?

She says Obama isn't ready to lead because he lacks experience, but rips off his campaign to keep her head above water in this race.

If the media was really bias like HRC supporters claim, then they would compare and contrast the organization and management of both campaigns and use it as representation of their possible leadership styles.

Mister Anderson (The Matrix) (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:50 PM)

Please take a minute to read!

I want to first take a minute to congradulate Mr. Obama on his victory last night.

I think is very sad that people are starting to throw race cards around. I thought that we wouldn’t resort to this type of immature behavior. I believe I am saying this to my peers as I am 30 years old. What are you telling us? What are you telling your own children? grandchildren? We NEED you to step up and put those feelings aside.

It is my thought that the people that are voting on race or gender… should simply not vote at all. As I said, I am a 30 year old WHITE male and my vote is for a CHANGE… Mr. Barack Obama. I have recently asked myself (numerous times) if I am making the right choice (as we all should) – and I believe I am.

Let me ask you Clinton supporters a couple questions –
What is wrong with believing we can accomplish CHANGE? That is may NOT be just words. Clinton has shown that she does not have the "change" that we need... and that is a FACT!
What is wrong with dreaming – isn’t that what we grew up doing? Why are so many people affraid to do that. It is as if we are all cattle being poked around... ... not this time!
What is wrong with NOT continuing down a known path (a path that will only hurt us)?
What is “experience”? We have seen what “experience” can do… … same ol’ games!

Ask yourself these questions… … but better yet… ask your kids or grandchildren these questions.

But for the LOVE OF GOD… put the race and gender aside!!!!!

JFK is turning over in his grave… this is not how we should be acting!!!!!

Chad, Grand Rapids (Bring It) Michigan (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:52 PM)

Americas first black President didn’t say a word about Mississippi last night- what does that say?

Howard Dean,

After the last two days its become clear the the race for the nomination is turning into a race war. In each contest Barack Obama’s percentages of the African American vote has gone up to where in Mississippi it topped 90%. I don’t believe like some would suggest that the party will come together once one of the candidates wins. This race baiting is not about the issues, but is a emotional attack toward a group of people that have faithfully supported this party in every election. This will destroy the party.

I would like to know where the leaders of the Democratic Party are when we’re watching the party being destroyed. Where are you, Al Gore and the Super Delegates when it matters? Missing in action?

Here’s a list where the leadership could have made a difference.

1. Bill Clintons playing the race card in Iowa and South Carolina.
2. Geraldine Ferraro’s racially charged comments on black vs white. Why did you and other leaders not condemn those remarks immediately? Why wasn’t she removed from her post in the Clinton campaign immediately? There is no excuse for those remarks.
3. Then there is the ”as far as I know he’s not a muslim” remark from Senator Clinton.
4. The photo of Senator Obama in tribal dress that was leaked to the press.

This leads me to think that there is no leadership in the Democratic Party or they’re missing a moral compass.

I believe the Clinton campaign has decided since they can’t have enough of the African American vote that they will drive a wedge between black and white Americans. I now have come to believe they would destroy the party for their own personal gain. Shame on us for sitting by and watching the politics of self destruction play out before us.

Six more weeks of this.

Why don’t the Super Delegates take charge and back the candidate of their choice. No, it’s way to easy to sit by and see which way the wind is blowing. That wind is going to blow John McCain right into the White House.

Shame on us.

David Hunter
A 64 yr old white guy from Oregon.

david hunter Bend (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:52 PM)

I think my comment was not posted earlier:
Chuck Todd,
Allow me to express my views on Geraldine's use of sexism and racism in her criticism of Obama. Normally, I respect others' opinion of any sort.
When I read Geraldine's statements on Obama's race and her false claim of victimization, I wondered aloud whether she has ever studied history.
Does she realize that Sept. 11, 2001, isn't necessarily the worst terrorist attack in America and that lynchings of over 3,400 black Americans and more than 1,200 of their white allies collectively constitutes the worst terrorist attack in America? She must understand that if she wants to play the gender card against Obama by labeling Obama or any of his supporters "sexist," she is rekindling memories of the 19th and early 20th centuries in American history, in which black men were tortured and even killed/lynched merely for disrespecting white women. And if she thinks that sexism is given too much attention over racism, she must have forgotten the horrific history in which black Americans (and I am a white man) suffered and died at the hands of white men and their brainwashed white women. So, Geraldine needs to be careful, as the politics of race only helps to rekindle memories of African Americans' past Holocaust-like (albeit much small in scope than the 6 million Jews killed) sufferings in the name of group superiority and even Christianity, the same ways the Nazis justified killings of innocent human beings.
Of course, sexism is an ongoing problem in almost all human cultures, not just America. If Geraldine believes she is a victim of sexism at the hands of Obama or his supporters, she must truthfully demonstrate that without leveling absurd allegations and playing the race card in the effort to help Clinton. She needs to be reminded that an overwhelming majority of blacks are supporting Obama because they were reminded of their history and disenchanted by Bill and Hillary's race gamemanship and the use of racially charged codes known to African-American community that has suffered for so long under slavery and the Jim Crow years (the only reason I am able to come up with to explain why whites in some states are preferring Clinton even though they are not the victims of slavery and Jim Crow are continuing bigotry and ignorance).
Geraldine must also realize that young people are supporting Obama because they are armed with facts about the history of our nation and are rejecting a culture of bigotry and ignorance displayed by their seniors. Of course, there are young people who have been instilled with the values of their ignorjant and bigoted parents and lack of an objective education.

Bull the Dog (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:52 PM)

Two million new donors. Let's see the paper. This is what I do not respect about the Clinton campaign, they blatently lie when the general public has no recourse for disproving the lie. Another example is when a couple weeks back Hillary was saying every two seconds, "Bill didn't wrap up the nomination until June in 1992", she failed to mention that the primaries started a lot later back then.

I just wish power didn't corrupt everyone who gains it, I used to love Bill Clinton, now I believe he and Hillary are a destructive force in this country.

Signed,
An old, poor, pennsylvanian white woman.

Gilda (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:53 PM)

Two million new donors? Really? Don't know - I'm a little skeptical of that one.

Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:53 PM)

2 million new donors?

Really Bill?

Why hasn't this been publicized?

turnip (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:54 PM)

And why would any one want to speak of Miss iss ippi the state is a snake pit! Do they have bath tubs and showers in ppi? or is that ppewwwwww

Take a whiff (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:54 PM)

CLINTON CAN COMPARE HIS ADOPTED RESIDENCE NY TO WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT IN THE 90s. LIKE THEN, THE GOVERNOR IS EMBROILED IN A SEX SCANDAL LIKE CLINTON WAS. NEITHER HIM OR HIS WIFE COULD AVOID HEDGING ON THE QUESTION OF SPITZER'S RESIGNATION.

AMIN KHAN NY NY (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:54 PM)

HP Boston (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:55 PM)

IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT HILLARY LIST " BEING INSTRUMENTAL IN THE PEACE PROCESS' IN IRELAND AS ONE OF HER CREDENTIALS FOR THE PRESIDENCY. THE IRISH SEEM TO DISAGREE THAT SHE PLAYED A PART IN THE PROCESS. IT APPEARS THAT LIKE HER HUSBAND SHE THINKS THAT BEING CREATIVE[LYING] ABOUT HER CREDENTIALS IS THE REAL QUALIFACATION

AMIN KHAN NY NY (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:00 PM)

CLINTON PARDONED RICH CRIMINALS JUST BEFORE HE LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE . HE SHOULD BE BOOED

JASON LANGER , washington (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:03 PM)

A better heckler might have included "Rwanda" and asked about Clinton's decision (and influence on congress) to keep US peace keeping forces out of the third world ---- allowing the Rwandan government to slaughter 800,000 innocent people in genocide. Clinton even admitted later that just a few thousand soldiers could have saved 500,000 lives, but I guess he and his supporters believe the only people who deserve human rights are Americans. Can we chalk that up to "learning experience" on Hillary's qualification board? Or can she pick and choose which of her husband's decisions apply to her?

Just Curious (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:08 PM)

When are you going to fire Geraldine, Bill?

wapitig8r gainesville, fl (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:08 PM)

You know, in spite of how much I now hate Hillary, I must confess I still love Bubba boy. Even with his SC transgression ...I blame that on Hillary.

Shelgirl in Brooklyn (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:09 PM)

It's great that they got two million new donors. My question is how come it took Obama to come up with a successful grassroot fund raising when Clinton has been around longer? Idea may matter more than the experience? Another thing is that if Senator Clinton includes two term presidency in her resume, doesn't it make her running for the office this time a third term? Just a bit apprehensive about the possible concentration of power.

IG, Haverford, PA (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:11 PM)

Another instance of Bill Clinton, Professor of Revisionist History 101. Nothing 'is' ever his fault.

Don Campbell, Midland, TX (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:12 PM)

Why the he// is he talkin bout HIS presidency if he's stumpin for Hill?

laughaday (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:14 PM)

Beware Bill...continuing to push Hillie and help the smear campaign against the next president is going to bring your speaking rates way down.

bill, okla (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:15 PM)

Really .. who cares?

bob (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:16 PM)

Hillary can't do it without Bill.He campaigned in texas on Hillary's behalf more frequently than Obama and Hillary combined

Athenama, Boulder , Co. (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:17 PM)

I applaud former President Clinton's handling of this situation with tact and civility. While I disagree with his (and many of his wife's) positions on cetain issues, I think he handled himself admirably. I condemn those members of the crowd who booed the heckler after the speaker they came to really hear had given him (the heckler) the opportunity to speak. What has happened to courtesy in this country? Kudos, sir, for your class act!

Mondell Dillard, Jr, Andrews, TX (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:18 PM)

More of the Obamanazis in evidence! It is almost scary to see the nature of his sheep-like following. If anyone dares to oppose Barack, they are shouted down and decried as racists. I have seen, first hand, his supporters come in and disrupt peaceful caucuses in San Antonio, Texas. Obama's tactics are no better than anything Karl Rove ever came up with. When will America wake up and see theis would-be emperor has no clothes?

Steve, San Antonio, TX (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:19 PM)

Thanks for the 22 million jobs Bill - not to mention the budget surplus, appointing the cabinet that "looked like America" and the fact that the US was respected around the world. Peace in Northern Ireland and Bosnia earn you kudos too.

But especially thank you for the greatest First Lady of my lifetime and our next President - Hillary Rodham Clinton.

csh, IL (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:19 PM)

Bill's a liar.

American Voter (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:19 PM)

It is so bitterly ironic that women continue to vote for Hillary. This is the wife who enabled her husband to commit perjury against a woman. She enabled and supported her husband in his abuse of power to prevent abused and harassed women from exercising their rights to sue for justice. She allowed innocent women to be vilified and tarnished by the media. She was his accomplice! It is simply tragic that women continue to support this dysfunctional and destructive couple. They have done more insult and injury to women than practically any pair in US history. How you can continue to forgive and forget these misdeeds is beyond all logic and reason.

TJK, Towson, MD (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:23 PM)

Just ca'nt wait for K. Olberman, your rateings should be huge after today. At least for his show, happy days.

doug (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:25 PM)

Bill, you were my hero in the 90's... You had no morals, but you were a good president... It was a prosperous time, and we held good standing in the world.

I began this campaign solidly in Hillary's corner, defending her every chance I got - until the 'Shillary' came out, along with the negative ads, and phoney implications, 'as far as I know', etc...

It's time for you both to enjoy your retirement... Let a new generation take over, with new fresh ideas... The old style of 'crash and burn' politics has got to go..

If Hillary can't keep her campaign positive, focusing only on issues, as Obama has tried to do, she had no business continuing.

She has very little chance of pulling this race out, but rather than making a graceful exit, it appears they're going to have to pull her, kicking and screaming from the convention. Where's the class in that?

The more I see and hear from her, the more it justifies your roaming eye... Who wants to go home to that?

Old, white Grandma in Obama's column... (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:28 PM)

I'm surprised First Read does not contain a reference to the continuing-to-develop story of how Hillary, not Obama, apparently gave assurances to the Candadians that she wasn't for real on attacking NAFTA. THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL. Clinton being heckled on NAFTA just underscores how feeling are running about NAFTA in the industrial areas. It was a big deal in Ohio, and the world should know the truth about what happened with the Canadians. See NEWSER, on line from Candada that the envoy has been urged to resign. If the Canadians are right, she not only was duplicitous on NAFTA, but is continuing her attacks on Obama on this matter.

Jack Burgess, Chillicothe, Ohio (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:29 PM)

Sounds like Bill Clinton handled this heckler just fine. I'm glad, however, that the crowd showed the heckler what they thought of his interruptions.

WAC, Gig Harbor, WA (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:30 PM)

Let see if this gets posted:

STAND UP PROUD PEOPLE DO NOT VOTE FOR HRC IF SHE WINS THE NOMINATION BY CHEATING.

What HRC fail to understand is that if she wins by cheating that not will she not only lose the white house, it is that she will lose to a republican because no ONE Africa American will vote for her.

That said she needs to clean up her act and her campaign.

She can not win the white house without the votes of the African American Denocrats.

Let her think about that for a moment.

It is obsurd that she would even think that they would vote for her, as she plays dirty and she owes too many people, tryhing to sway them by stating that yiu may get both if you vote for her.LOL!!!

Yes she will dig up dirt on the superdelegates & blackmail them to get her way.

Let this simmer, as we all know the African Americans are tired fo being cheated out of every thing & everything that their forefathers have endored all of their lives for.

Let see what happens if this comes to past.

I say to hell with the Clintons it will be as if GWB had not left.

Go Obama '08

BIGOLDTEXAN (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:31 PM)

The heckler was a plant. Why do they keep showing up heckling him when he's not the one run for president??

Hillary and Bill are nothing more then two old sly foxes that keep manipulating people and their supporters are too blindsided to see it.

Hillary supporters please snap out of your trance.

Bill didn't do anything for black people. Black people who were doing well already, did better. If you were a black student on welfare, you had to drop out of school and get a job. So, the result of that was, you ended up black, poor and still uneducated limiting the chances for you to advance.

The Clinton administration wiped out the middle class and that is the truth.

Neenahfox, MI (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:33 PM)

What's different this time, it was Chelsea doing the heckling.

Mo Roberts, Baines, KY (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:33 PM)

Does Bill (and those few people listening to him) actually KNOW he's not the one running?

Diane from Illinois (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:35 PM)

Way to go, Bill. There's a whole lot of heckling going on by the Obamatons but nobody wants to hear the answers.

fairness (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:37 PM)

Hillary's experience is a total FRAUD voters! She never even held a security clearance so it’s impossible to say she was a foreign policy player. She DID NOT have a seat at the table and probably never has even seen the "red phone"!! Take it from someone who holds a clearance...SHE'S A JOKE!!!

Yesterday, her "experience” was debunked by the people who actually did play a key role in the Northern Ireland situation and who won a Nobel Peace Prize for it. She was never at that table either folks.

It also came out that her so-called Somalia peace experience was actually a troop entertainment trip with Sheryl Crow and Sinbad! No role played at all except celebrity status.

NYT reported that the little girl in Hillary's 3 am commercial is almost 18 now and is actually a huge Obama supporter and may be a delegate for him too!

Hillary is a LIAR. We can't respect her candidacy when she’s a completely fake politician wht completely fake supporters like Spitzer out there.

At least Obama stands for better politics, honesty, and unity instead of division. Obama 08.

Kevin (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:42 PM)

An obama fan I am sure. Paranoid Clinton hater who thinks the whole democratic process is anti obama.

Go Hilliary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dawn, Pittsburgh, PA (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:42 PM)

Ah, the good part of this story: you/MSNBC reported both sides! Keep this up and you will remain better than FoxNews.

Ryan, PA (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:48 PM)

I really starting to thing that this is all apart of his gemic. He get's these people to HECKLE and that makes the crowd want to defend him. No matter the candidate, no matter if your undecided, once you have witnessed and inappropriate confrentation you find your self wanting to defend the guy. Once your defending a candidate, even if your a tricked into it, it very tough to change your mind. That has always been their strategy, give people a reason to want to defend them. Hillary does it all the time.

I say this because this only happens to Clinton, and it only happens once they begin campagning in a new state.

IsItJust Me (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:49 PM)

Typical Clintonian response, blame a Bush for their failures. Listen to Bill Clinton, oh I was president and NAFTA was drafted by GHW Bush so it went through. Ever heard of the word VETO!

Bill Clinton's response is similiar to Hillary's Clinton's response on her Iraq War vote. Hillary blames GW Bush for her vote!

When things were good in the 1990s both of them are jumping at the bit to claim responsiblility, but when when things were bad both of them downplay the bad and look to blame someone else.

AJ, IL (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:50 PM)

HOPEFULLY, WE CAN SAY "GOOD-BYE" TO MR. CLINTON..."Now good-bye to you, sir!

Fight hard Barack...and, make the good-byes to Mr. and Mrs. Clinton sooner than later.

Larry in Union, KY (Sent Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:57 PM)

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