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New poll: Clinton up in PA

Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:00 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
While a new poll among Pennsylvania voters shows Clinton leading by 18 points, both Obama and her lose to McCain in head-to-head match ups. According to the Strategic Vision (R) poll, which will be released tomorrow, Obama fares better in a contest with McCain.
 
In the Democratic contest in the Keystone State, Clinton leads Obama outright in Pennsylvania, 56%-38%.

But in hypothetical match ups for the general election, McCain is ahead of Obama, 47%-44%, with 9% undecided. Against Clinton, the Arizona Republican leads 48%-42%, with 10% undecided.

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Just wait until Pennsylvanians meet him!  That margin will surely shrink.
Once those in Pennsylvania get ahold to the Clinton lies, that will change!
Clintion is obviously the weaker of the two candidate in the general election.
It appears that McCain has outsourced his campaign to Clinton judging from the damage the Clinton campaign is doing on the democratic party.
I can hear that margin closing the closer Obama gets to Pennsylvania.
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Remember the Pennsylvania primary is NOT the Democratic 'Super Bowl.'  It is just another of a dozen remaining primaries.  North Carolina with its 115 delegates comes soon after PA.  The SUPER BOWL is the convention despite Bill Clinton's hawking PA.
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Ahh, Pennsyltucky with your poor, old, white, uneducated electorate (it's not racist, it's just demographics). You're all Mrs. Clinton has left to count on. Of course she is up-her racial division strategy is perfectly suited to Rendell democrats.
guess the kitchen sink strategy is working.

too bad there is NO WAY she will catch up with Pledge delegates and popular Vote.

So either Hillary will ruin obama's chances of winning in the Fall or rip the party in half.

Clintons are smart: They know that Hillary winning the nomination is small.  Only way she can be president is if she hurts obama enough so He can't win in the fall and try again in 4 years.


Bad News:  She will always be Hillary Clinton the Great Divider.  
Kind of puts the lie to Clinton's assertion that she can win PA in the general if she can win it in the primary, doesn't it?
so what?

are things getting slow at MSNBC?

Don't worry things will pick up in April.

when is the next debate?

Clinton 08
Looks like another primary vs. general election fallacy!
Watch how quickly this will change once Hillary is out of the picture and Obama gets to go head to head with McCain. McCain does not have the intelligence, the tempermant, or the debating skills  that Obama has in his little finger. McCain is being given a free ride at this time because the rightwing media is protecting him and the liberal media is watching the fight between Hillary and Obama.Once Obama strikes a McCain nerve, it will be all over for John.
Wow, this is going to be a tough battle in the general election as well.
So it turns out that according to Hillary's stated logic Pennsylvania is a state that doesn't count because it is going to the Republicans in November.  Rememeber that superdelegates when you are deciding.
See, the problem with the primary setup in Pennsylvania, is that Clinton is a Democrat.  Obama is also a Democrat.  Democrats are going to vote Democrat pretty much either way.  A few vocal bad apples won't vote Democrat if its not their candidate, but it all balances out one way or another.

See, so what you end up with, is which candidate gets more independent votes.  THAT is the KEY and always has been the key to winning the general election.  Obama fares better with independents.  Independents flock en masse away from Clinton.

That's why this whole "I won CA!  I won NY! I won NJ!" schtick from the Clintons is hillarious.  Sure you did, but that doesn't mean Obama would LOSE them in the general election.  He'd probably win them by even LARGER margins because he gets such heavy independent votes.
Exactly.  This is why Clinton's argument that "but I can win Pennsylvania" doesn't hold water.
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com
At some point the Democrats might take a look at themselves and ask why in the world they are losing to a double talking fossil. Apparently people are deciding to stay with the devil they know as opposed going either one they don't. The Democrats may have already done McCain's work for him.
WHY is ALL the focus on Pennsylvania?!?!?

WHY is the media only reporting the Clinton SPIN and having her campaign pick and choose which states "count"?!?!?

There are 10 states left, which include Indiana, North Carolina and Oregon, and Obama is favored to win all 3.

Why aren't you reporting that!?!?!?  Are you afraid to be labeled "biased" by Saturday Night Live?  Don't you realize, they're playing you on a string and are laughing at how they're shaping your every move.

GROW UP, get tough and report the FACTS, not the HRC spin!

As an avid Clinton supporter, it really pisses me off that as of late it seems that she only cares about certain states.  EVERY state should matter!  She has not shown consideration to all states like Obama has. Sure, Obama, may have a better chance in certain states over Clinton but instead of sending your husband or daughter to that state, try campainging in the state yourself.  Hillary needs to get a clue, Obama has only himself and has been far superior to Clinton when it comes to campaigning.  He cares about every state, and does not undermine Clinton supporters like myself.  I wish that for once, other Clinton supporters would wake up and get behind our candidate for the "RIGHT" reasons, and not because SHE is a WHITE WOMAN.  I mean, is Hillary where she is because she's a female???  Biggots in this country need to catch up to the 21st century.  

Look how far we have come as a nation.  100 years ago, women did'nt even have the right to vote, not to mention African Americans were severely discriminated against.  Today, we have both, running for President. We should come together as a Nation, rally behind our candidate and congratulate the winner when appropriate.  

As for Ferraro, she's a Bitch!  Glad to see her go.
Ok, all you hard working men and women from Penn. take a look at this.  This is a record of a hard working man who talks the talk and walks the walk, from helping end poverty to crime fighting to veteran benifits--Obama is the man.  

Hillary on the other hand doesn't seem to have done much to anyone--except herself.  Don't believe me--look at her senate record then compare it to Obama's!!!

Oh, and to that women who said "Obama is luck to be running for President and it's just because he's black" --remember he's half white too, Ferrarro.

Who's the best?  Obama's the best.  Take a look you sad Clintonites and you'll see that Obama did more in 8 months then most senators do in a lifetime of service.  That's the kind of president I want working for me.

The following information gathered from the Library of Congress on the Legislative experience Junior Senator Hillary Clinton and Junior Senator Barack Obama. Please Feel free to check these records for yourself and draw your own conclusion.

Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term, which is 6 years and another year campaigning, has authored and passed 20 twenty pieces of legislation in her term of six years into law. These bills can be found at (wwwhomas.loc.gov).  Senator Clinton has passed.

(1) Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
(2) Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
(3) Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
(4) Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
(5) Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
(6) Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
(7) Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
(8) Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
(9) Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
(10) Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
(11) Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
(12) Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
(13) Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
(14) Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
(15) Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive.
(16) Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
(17) Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
(18) Assist landmine victims in other countries.
(19) Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
(20) Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

She has a nice list, but note that these are The Fact's straight from the Senate Record; Therefore, it is not made up.

Now, It is time to post Senator Obama's record from the Library of Congress.I have to mention that Senator Obama's list is too substantive, one is coalesced to categorize. Since its alot, remember you can go to the Library of Congress website, and check it out yourself, but I am just summarizing his first 8 months.

During Senator Obama's first 8 eight months of elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

He introduced 233 bills regarding healthcare reform,
125 bills on poverty and public assistance,
112 bills on crime fighting,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
In his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
(1)the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became LAW,
(2)The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became LAW, (3)The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate,
(4)The 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became LAW,
(5)The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill that is in committee just to name a few.

In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record.  Read the facts and not emotion.
Why shouldn't Hillary be ahead? Her campaign has become all about being white. All recent exit polls show her white voters having racist tendencies. They are 75% against Obama, saying they would not vote Republican, while Obama voters are not nearly as negative about Hillary and say they will support Hillary. This trend developed just before March 4 and owes its roots in radical right radio talk shows. Clintons have not rejected or repudiated anything. Combined with Ferarro's comments you have a perfect storm for racism and sexism driving voters to Hillary.
Hillary will win PA, and its a democrats only primary. After all, Hillary and Obama are trying to win the "democratic nomination" correct?
For all the Hillary bashing, she continues to win everytime she's counted out.
Only the so-called "smart" Obama supporters know how bad she is, the rest of the country and the 12+ million who voted for her don't know anything.
So much for the liberal making over 100k.
Oh yeah Clintonistas. It is just so clear that if hillary wins her parties primary in PA she will win it in the General. Obama has 6 weeks. He will close that gap and even if he does not win he will gain delegates and popular vote and Senator will be no closer to the nomination but she will have eroded her party and helped McCain.  Maybe he will pick her for his VP. No one will have helped him win more than she.
Not surprising! With Hillary practically endorsing McCain and throwing her infamous "kitchen sink" at Obama? That´s Hillary´s strategy:

       If she can´t win(and the math says she
        can´t), then she has to destroy Obama!

That makes it easy for McCain! Thanks to Hillary!These are the fallouts from what I now dub
         "THE HILLARY DISEASE"

             characterised by

          1) WARPED LOGIC
          2) LACK OF CONSCIENCE
Democrats find themselves in lose-lose situation

March 12, 2008
BY ANDREW GREELEY
Once again the Democrats seem determined to steal defeat from the jaws of victory.

Consider the possibilities after the Pennsylvania primary. Let us assume that Sen. Hillary Clinton wins it. However, Sen. Barack Obama still has a lead in election delegates and a slim advantage in popular votes.

There are two courses the party can take. They can leave the final choice to the so-called "superdelegates" whom the party has chosen to represent office holders -- mayors, governors, senators and such like. Having read the polls and noting that Sen. Clinton consistently loses the general election to almost any Republican candidate, the superdelegates, many of whom have no great love for the Clintons, tip the scales in favor of the Senator from Illinois.

What happens in this course? Many women who believed that it was "time for a woman president" are furious.

Sen. Clinton was a competent woman with great experience and a tough fighter for women's rights. All through the primaries she has been beaten up by males, both political and media males. They paid no attention to her "moral" rights to the nomination and left the decision to political hacks, mostly men. Moreover, they have not granted the voters in Michigan and Florida the right to express their support for Senator Clinton. The election has been stolen.

The opposite choice has two possible scenarios. The first is to change the rules and let delegates from Florida, selected against the rules, vote. Ms. Clinton is nominated to great acclaim. In the second scenario, Sen. Clinton wins a fierce and close battle among the superdelegates with many charges of dirty tricks and dubious promises.

How do the losers react?

If it was time for a woman president, many also believed it was a time for an African-American president. Sen. Obama was not only black, he was a brilliant young man with wide experience in American life, a charismatic speaker, and a gentleman who would not throw the kitchen sink back at Sen. Clinton. With help of Mexican-American voters who hate African Americans (and vice versa), the white power elite has stolen the election from a candidate who would have won easily if he were white. Bitter Blacks would go fishing on election day and the youthful supporters of Sen. Obama would return to their computer games. The Democratic party would implode for the next decade.

The Democrats need both massive African-American support and a gender gap among women to win a presidential election. Is there any way they can appeal to both against Sen. John McCain? Will not all Democrats rally against the war and the Bush recession? Given the bitterness of the primary, especially of its final battles, this does not seem likely. Nor does a joint ticket of both senators seem probable. Sen. Clinton clearly feels that she has the right to be president. She would hardly accept the number two spot. Unless he has lost his mind, Sen. Obama knows better than to get trapped in a Clinton White House.

Thus Sen. McCain, bad health and all, becomes president, the war continues and so does the Bush recession.

How did the Democrats get into such a mess? One must look back to the 1972 election and the "McGovernite" reforms which are responsible for both our kinky, kooky primary system and the ideology of victimization. That election was a disaster for the Democrats, though the convention was perfectly balanced among women and blacks and had rid itself of such white ethnics as Richard M. Daley and George Meany.

Can Anyone in Hillary camp, explain to America, why is that that when she steps foot in a State, her number's go Down & when Barack starts campaigning in that same State, his Number's go up?

Here, i'll give ya a headstart.When voter's finally see & hear her in person, they say, O My God, no way do i want her as President.

When they Finally get to see & hear Barack, they say, hey, this guy just may have what it takes to be President.

Last Clue Hillarious supporter's," DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER"
Obama fares better? This is funny, both are losing to McCain, so it now comes down to "who loses better"?
Dear MSNBC, Show some sense of balance. Give Hillary her due. Even when MSNBC reports that Clinton does better in a poll, there is immediately a negative comment trying to downplay the positive result.
Hm...where else have I seen this bias? hm...
General election polls reflect things as they currently are as opposed to predict the ultimate outcome. Guess what Dems, the race for the nomination is supressing your support nationwide. Keep this up until August and we can begin to guess what the utlimate winner will face - especially if the loser's core support feels so alienated that it decides to stay home or vote for someone else.
So Clinton is favored in the primary but more people would vote for Obama in the general? Doesn't that weaken her argument that she is better suited to win the general based on her success in a handful of large states?
How does this make sense?  if she is winning over Obama, then how can Obama do better against Mccain than she can?  I must be missing something?  Please explain!!!
the only reason the [R] polls give obama a better chance of beating macain is because they know HILARY will beat him and they think they have a chance to beat obaba
I guess this answers your previous question.  So even if she wins doesn't mean she can win the state.  Put a stake in that arguement it is done
Only three points between Obama/McCain, Obama could have raised that...BUT...wonder what those numbers will look like after Hillary pounds Obamas character for 6 weeks...She's McCain biggest cheerleader.
It's still not 65%.  He'll pull closer in the next 6 weeks.
In Miss., Obama got 91% of the black vote and only 21% of the white vote. OUCH!

So much for "transcending race" and being a "once in a generation candidate".

Obama is racially polarizing, no matter how big his smile is.

Goodluck Sen. Clinton. I am hoping you win big time in Pa.
Your experience and determination are what we nned to change this country.


www.hillaryclinton.com

First Read,
Why don't you report the endorsement Obama received from the Flag Officers of the U.S. military?
A bigot who cries out loud in false disbelief that Obama is against the flag of the U.S. will now be in belief that he is a patriot (it is, in my personal view, nothing but a symbol of patriotism and to require people to saulte it is like a dictator forcing people to to reaffirm their loyalty to the regime, and remember flags are designed by artists and not true patriots).
http://www.barackobama.com/2008/03/12/obama_receives_endorsement_of.php
And this is why you have to take ALL the electability arguments for the general with a huge grain of salt...thanks FR for the insight.
"Do not know if you have seen this email but it is worth a read. I received it a couple of weeks ago from a friend in South Dakota.  I asked my husband about its content as I was not familiar with a lot of it (being from Canada) and he told me that it was pretty accurate as far as he is concerned.
If this is the case, please send it to everyone you know.  After listening to Hillary last night saying her "victory speech", I still have nausea.  If she wants to play dirty and handle the truth carelessly about Barack, perhaps it is time she gets a little reminder.  She will continue this negative campaign to win and we must all fight back in any way we can with the real truth about her.  Let's also see those White House documents that she and Bill keep hiding and her tax returns she is so hesitant to come clean about.  Sometimes you just have to fight fire with fire and unlike Barack who they are trying to destroy with distortions, the Clintons can be brought down with the truth.
We cannot afford to lose the best candidate for president because of smear campaigns from a power hungry woman who wants the prestige of being the first woman to be president.
Hopes You Have Forgotten
Hillary hopes you have forgotten. Have you????

Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her "record," which she says includes
her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or "co-president" - and her seven years in the Senate.  Here is a reminder of what that record includes:

- As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million.  She told both Bill
Bradley and Pat Moynahan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would "demonize "anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party.  (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.)

- Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced to withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as "my worst
mistake."

- Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to
be withdrawn.

- Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively.  Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

- Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security.  When
Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by
White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. (FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene Confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee in 1996 both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone.  After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office,
after serving seven presidents for over thirty years.)

- In order to open "slots" in the White House for her friends the Harry Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be
awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for "gross mismanagement" and their
reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House
funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.

- Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing the "bimbo eruption squad" and scandal defense:

---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit.
---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor.  After $80 million
dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.
---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.
---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.
---- And Bill was impeached by the House.
---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, "I do not recall,"  "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" 56 times under oath).
- Hillary accepted the traditional First Lady's role of decorator of the White House at Christmas, but in a unique Hillary way.  In 1994, for
example, The First Lady's Tree in the Blue Room (the focal point each year) was Decorated with drug paraphernalia, sex toys, and pornographic ornaments,  all personally approved by Hillary as the invited artists' depictions of the theme, "The Twelve Days of Christmas."

- Hillary wrote "It Takes a Village," demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint.

- Hillary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in.  Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support.

- Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen.
- In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the "woman card" by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her.

- Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars.  (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.)

- As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation.  She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.

- Hillary's one notable vote, supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed.

Quite a resume, isn't it?  Sounds more like an organized crime family...

Make sure America remembers.  Pass this on."
Vote WAR, vote McCain!!!!!!!  He's more hawkish than the Bush administration and would love nothing more than to spend 4-8 more years waging war for FUN and PROFIT.

I dare America to admit to the world that were are a militaristic society that doesn't belive in Democracy.  Go for it.
Chuck,
I believe that the reason for McCain's rise in the polls in PA is largely due to the fact that the Democratic candidates are bussy cat fighting and they (especially Hillary) have hurt the party's image.
This should be a warning to Clinton more than Obama that she is doing much harm not only to herself but also to the Democratic Party with all the negatives and her stay in the race in spite of Obama's large delegate lead as well as his lead in the popular vote, and that there are only 10 states left for rabs. Voters are taking notice of Clinton's self-centeredness and self-righteousness.
TO ALL AT MSNBC;  I JUST SAW OBAMA'S PASTOR WRIGHT TALKING IN HIS CHURCH ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON.  HIS COMMENTS ARE SO OFFENSIVE I AM STUNNED.  HE ALSO COMPARES OBAMA TO JESUS.  HE TALKS ABOUT FORMER PRESIDENT CLINTON AND ACTUALLY USES BODY LANGUAGE IN HIS ATTACK ON BILL CLINTON.  IF ANYONE THINKS THAT GERALDINE FARRARO'S COMMENTS WERE RACISTS AND HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD DISASSOCIATE WITH HER, THAN
IF OBAMA AND HIS WIFE, MICHELLE, HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF THE TRINITY UNITED CHURCH FOR CHRIST UNDER THE TEACHINGS OF PASTOR WRIGHT, THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO DISCUSS THESE TEACHINGS IN FULL AND IN PUBLIC.
PASTOR WRIGHT'S COMMENTS ABOUT WHITE AMERICA ARE AS DIVISIVE AS ANY POSSIBLE BELIEF.  AFTER SOME OF THE COMMENTS OF MICHELLE OBAMA'S, I CAN SEE WHERE SHE MIGHT BE SPEAKING HER BELIEFS BASED ON HER RELIGIOUS COUNCELING FROM PASTOR WRIGHT.  

THIS IS REALLY SERIOUS AND I WILL BET THIS WILL NOT BE POSTED.  I WATCHED THIS ON FOX NEWS 3:00 PM PACIFIC TIME SHOW.  I AM STILL IN SHOCK.  THERE WAS
A FILM CLIP OF OBAMA REFERRING TO WRIGHT "HE WAS MY PASTOR".   I BELIEVE WRIGHT HAS JUST RETIRED.  SO DO THE OBAMA'S STILL GO TO THIS CHURCH AND WHAT ARE DO THEIR BELIEFS REFLECT THE TEACHINGS OF PASTOR WRIGHT.
TWENTY YEARS IS A LONG TIME TO HAVE PASTOR WRIGHT AS YOUR FAMILY MENTOR AND ADVISOR.  

What goes up must come down. Look at what happened in two weeks prior to Texas and Ohio.  Now Obama has six weeks to gain in the polls.  I'd say that gives him a good chance at breaking even. However, Obama is going to have a "land-slide" victory in North Carolina.  I'd say the Clinton locomotive is about out of steam. And, as Obama slowly pulls away, gets more and more of the popular vote, gets more pledged delegates, and sooner or later it becomes apparent the Hillary has shamefully, and decietfully--lost--then she will be sorry she acted like a spoiled little brat who didn't get her way--I can her the tantrum from here. . .

I also predict there will be no dream team; not after Hillary said McWar would be a better comander and chief, not after Hillary said words don't count (then had someone fired for saying "MONSTER;")not after the complete the "VP" condtradiction.  Common, who would want a snake for a bed-fellow (spitzer/hillary?)
When you think about it, the comment is not so far off what Hillary has been saying all along, "He's not fit to be Commander and Chief, He's just speeches. . ."  No wonder Hillary didn't have a real problem with a racist comment from her buddy--Ferrarro.

Enjoy the polls

Hillary will win in Pennsylvania, by a big margin.  She's the much better candidate.  Obama has no experience, and shows he is very weak under pressure.  He will only be good in about 8 years.  Right now, he's a very poor and ill-prepared candidate.  He's just ambitious and rather arrogant.  He should drop out and agree to be Hillary's running mate.  Then maybe he'll have a chance in 2016.
Clintons are racist in terms of using race when it gets them white votes.  Any way you cut it, they are racists, just not in the traditional sense.
Look at the numbers ... Clinon's plan is working!

She knows she messed up. She cannot win and she knows she won't get the nomination. Her plan is now to divide the Democratic Party and come back to 'save' the party in 2012.

The superDs should be able to see through that and stop the bleeding.
TO ALL THOSE OBAMA SUPPORTERS, YOU'RE TAKING THIS WAY TOO PERSONAL.
Check out the poll on the PA Democratic Committee website: www.padems.com  Obama is far, far ahead on every count.  Again,this poll is on the PA DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE site
Is it just me... Or does...

Bill = Heckle
Hill = Jeckle

Out with the old & in with the NEW!

Obama 08 - Yes we can & yes we will!
WHAT'S NICE is that the folks screwing US at the pump-can afford ALASKAN CRUISES.


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