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The Delegate fight: Re-do on June 3?

Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:13 AM by Mark Murray
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The Florida Democratic Party’s mail-in primary plan could be unveiled as early as today. According to one memo obtained by the Washington Post, Election Day would officially be June 3. "In a document obtained by The Washington Post, dated yesterday, Florida Democratic Party Chairwoman Karen L. Thurman urged Florida's Democratic members of Congress, along with Clinton and Obama, to consider the vote-by-mail proposal carefully. ‘Because of the unprecedented nature of the national race, a situation that previously was a relatively minor, party-insider issue now has the potential to result in irreparable damage for years to come,’ she wrote, before detailing at length a mail-in-primary process.”

“Under her timetable, fundraising and a public comment period would begin today and end April 12, about when ballots go to production. Overseas and military ballots would be sent out April 19. Fifty temporary election offices would be set up May 1 in poor areas to ensure access to voters with mail difficulties. On May 9, the bulk of the ballots would be shipped out, and the election would officially be on June 3, a day shared with Montana and South Dakota."

The AP adds, however: Florida's nine Democratic congressmen voted Tuesday night to oppose a mail-in vote. Thurman urged them to reconsider.” Clinton's Florida surrogates and the Obama campaign also oppose the idea.

Meanwhile, in Michigan, either a state-run primary (paid for by private donors) or a mail-in primary is still on the table. "State Elections Director Chris Thomas said Wednesday that he had not been contacted about the primary alternative, but he said the Legislature would have to approve a law allowing the state to accept private funding for a primary. If such a law were approved, he said, ‘The issues involved are no different than trying to run any other election.’”

“That said, it is probably too late for a primary to piggyback on the May 6 school election, meaning a new June primary would have to be held if such a do-over to the state’s disallowed Jan. 15 primary is in the cards."

On NPR this morning, Clinton called the Jan. 15 Michigan primary a "fair" election. When asked by interviewer Steve Inskeep how it was fair when Obama's name was not on the ballot, she replied, "Well, that was his choice, Steve."

Former Edwards spokesperson Jennifer Palmieri writes in a Politico op-ed that Democrats ought to be patient during this protracted fight. Why? If Clinton can't prove she can bring change against Obama, she'll fail against McCain. And if Obama can't prove he'll be a better commander-in-chief than Clinton, then he'll fail against McCain. So she argues the two Dems need more time to get their change/commander messages refined.

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In the many years that I've lived in this state it hasn't been possible for Florida to organize and follow through with an election properly that is prepared for years in advance. Now, those politicians that would most benefit from the DNC backing down on a rightfully enforced penalty on the two states would like us to believe that Florida could properly and accurately oversee a hastily thrown together mail-in vote (which is illegal by state law as so many have already pointed out) with no precedence and no preparation. The states violated a rule and should pay the price. I voted knowing full well that no delegates from my state would, or should, be seated.  The only reason turn-out was so high was due to a property tax amendment that, although popular, is yet another insane idea of Florida politics.

Where were these politicians and their "desire for the will of the people to be heard" when Clinton thought herself to be a shoe-in for the nomination before Feb 5th? Not a single peep from anyone in the MONTHS that passed between the penalty enforcement and the time when suddenly FL and MI became potentially useful again. Remember, every candidate signed off on the penalty being enforced. Not a single one raised an objection at the time. The Clinton camp has no interest in the will of the people or the voters' rights, it's only an issue because it may benefit them in their quest to continue the rotating monarchy of the last couple of decades. You can't claim to be serving the best interest of the people if the only reason that you're arguing is for self-interest.
I think it was the repubs in Fl. snuck that rule through. There was more turn out than before. Dems tried to get no count rule out and couldnt. Once again Repubs mess up Dems. in Fl.
Hillary won give her the count wont hurt Obama and he did campaign there so only fair Hillary gets her count. The delegates wouldnt catch her up but I think she deserves them.
You really can't say that the wins in Florida and Michigan were fair, just because there were uncommitteds in Michigan and votes for Obama in Florida, because many stayed home, since the rules were they weren't going to count. Neither is a winner take all state for the Democrats, so delegates would be apportioned some way or another. My earlier suggestion gives Clinton the lead, I think in Florida, and close to 50-50 in Michigan. My second suggestion would give Obama the lead since he leads by more delegates in more contests, but Hillary would get delegates, too, to build on. The latter would be more fair, and the first suggestion would be okay, too, without a revote.


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