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Obama talks Spitzer, race, FL-MI

Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:11 AM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Hudspeth and Mark Murray
In a media avail aboard his campaign plane, Obama answered questions on a host of issues, including Spitzer's resignation, race, re-votes in Florida and Michigan, and the upcoming campaign in Pennsylvania.

On Spitzer: "Obviously, it’s a tragedy. It’s heartbreaking for the family, but I suspect that it would not have been possible to function as governor, that what he said is right, that he needs to spend time healing himself and his family." Asked in a follow-up question whether Spitzer should be prosecuted, he replied: "You know, I won't offer an opinion on that."

On race becoming an issue in the Clinton-Obama contest: "As I said yesterday, I do think it's unfortunate. It's not entirely unexpected. You know, as I've said before, race and gender issues are very powerful in our society. They've been an organizing principle of our politics since the earliest days of our country. And so it would be naïve for me to think that we could just brush them aside. And I know that sometimes Sen. Clinton and others accuse me of being naïve, but I'm not naïve enough to think that we're going to solve the country's racial problems, and some of these other divisions in the span of six months or a year. What I do think is that our campaign has pointed towards the future, an era where these distinctions are less prominent in our politics."

On the best way to solve Florida and Michigan: "I think [campaign manager] David Plouffe's been pretty clear about this. What we want is an opportunity for the Florida and the Michigan delegates to participate in the convention, to be seated. But ... what we don't think makes sense is, for example, the Michigan delegation to be seated when my name wasn't on the ballot. I mean, I saw an interview where Sen. Clinton suggested that we had competed in this race. I don't know exactly how she drew that conclusion, since I didn't step foot in Michigan and my name was on the ballot. So ya know, the notion that somehow it would be fair for her to obtain significantly more delegates than me in a contest where we both agreed it wouldn't count -- I wasn't on the ballot, and I didn't campaign there -- just defies logic. I think you could ask my 6 year old whether that was fair, and she would probably be able to say not that isn't."

Obama continued, "Our campaign has been in conversations with the Michigan delegation, the Florida delegation, and the DNC -- and talked about what options are out there. And I think they're gonna be explored over the next several weeks. We're not gonna make the final decision on it, and I'll abide by whatever rules the DNC lays out."

And on Pennsylvania: "The public poll most recently showed us down 20, and that was true in Texas and Ohio as well. It’s been true in other states. So that’s why we campaign. So we will go there, we will campaign vigorously, we will spend money, we will have staff on the ground, I will spend a lot of days in Pennsylvania. I think there’s no doubt that Sen. Clinton is heavily favored there, but we’re going to compete actively, and we’re going to compete actively and we want to try to win the state like we tried to win every other state. You know, we have not selectively said which states are important. We think they’re all important, and Pennsylvania is important. Now we do think the other nine states afterwards are also important, so we’re going to be spending time there as well, but there’s no notion whatsoever that we are ceding Pennsylvania. We’re going to try to compete there as hard as we can."

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To Who's Sane -

Are you suggesting that those who support seating the Michigan delegates as they stand AREN'T less logical than a six year old?

For christ sake! The argument that these delegates should be seated without a revote is completely asinine! Clinton's claim that this was a 'fair' election is absolutely ridiculous and furthers the notion that her campaign will throw all logic out the window in any effort to get ahead.

I have a very difficult time respecting voters who are in favor of the tactics currently being employed by Clinton and her advisors with respect to Florida and Michigan. I'm all for questioning the democratic process and making it work for you as a potential nominee but there has to be some logic behind these arguments and, in Clinton's case, there's just not. At this point, she looks petty, ridiculous and childish - not the least bit presidential. She's grasping at straws and dividing the democratic party as she does it.

Obama '08
Today's talking points from the Clinton campaign are a Pastor's past comments.  

Soon they'll flash those kindergarten write-ups.  How low can they stoop?
I think Hillary and her schizophrenic campaign are a real blight on our party, and I truly hope that Obama and his family continue to weather all the nastiness with the grace and humility he has shown since starting this race.  As a woman, I do not identify with Hillary Clinton at all.  She is not the sort of person I would like to be, and I would not want my daughters to grow up to be like her either.
Can't wait for Obama to get to the oval office. He can appoint his six year old daughter chief of staff. That will be a big change from the past where adults usually held that position. It will all be such fun.
Originally, I planned to vote for Hillary. Then she started talking. Hillary thinks she can change all the Democratic Party's rules to her benefit. If the Party allows this, something stinks in the back room.
Obama is my choice and I am that white woman of a 'certain age' who is supposed to 'belong' to Hillary. Sorry, the grouping of Americans by race and gender just isn't working Hillary. Why does the media continue to buy into this.
As a white man from Pittsburgh PA, I would like express my remorse at the current state of affairs as I “reject and denounce” the recent comments of Geraldine Ferraro.
I have been very impressed with Obama and believe he is a decent person. My wife and I have followed him and his campaign closely. We have listened to every major speech and interview and have also donated to his campaign. I have never in the past been interested in or involved with politics. We believe Obama is truly a beacon of hope in this world. His message is truly inspiring and has moved me to regain a bit of hope for the future.
While following the campaign, I have been bothered by what I saw as cheap attacks from Hillary Clinton. She has continued to attack Obama in unfair ways, twisting his position, words and events to her perceived advantage.  I believe Obama has been above this and he has tried to honestly present his position without this kind of unfair and misleading attacks.
Nothing prepared me though for these comments from Ferraro and the lack of response from Mrs. Clinton. There should have been immediate outrage from across the country from men, woman, black, white, Republicans and Democrats. These are some of the most racially charged, ignorant, and disgusting comments I have ever heard put out into the national debate. I would have been sick to hear someone like Rush Limbaugh say this. I just couldn’t believe I heard this from the Clinton Campaign.
To suggest that Obama owes his success to his race is to suggest that every educated black person in any position of importance is not as talented as a white person but that they owe their position to affirmative action. This is the same as to suggest that any woman in a high position is due to her looks. It is a way for ignorant people to belittle other’s accomplishments based on their race or gender.
The Clinton campaign has belittled the entire Obama constituency by suggesting that we only support him because he is black. Obama is a highly educated, eloquent, and talented. He has written two books and inspired millions. I for one am impressed by his character and his message. My judgment has not been affected by the “advantage” of his being black. It is sad to see that race is still being used to prejudge a person not on their accomplishment but on the color of their skin.  
I had begun to hope that the country and the world were becoming more enlightened.  I saw the success of Obama as a testament to how far we have really come. Truly we still have a long way to go. The ignorance of our country’s racist and sexist past continues to shadow the future.
Mark, Cary, NC & Keith, Wayne, NJ

Query:  What more is there to learn?  - and by the way, when will the news and you concern citizens return the favor  - attend and/or buy tapes from all the other candidates' churches and/or pastor  - and query  - what are their messages  - and where are the "black folk".  Everyone knows that the most segregated place in America  is church on sSunday morning and while you are querying Obama  - query McCain and ask him to daily  "renounce and reject"  Pastor Hagee who clearly preaches against Catholics  - and then turn to Catholics who believe you only get to heaven if you are a Catholic  - JUST  QUERY FAIRLY!!!!  If your mind is made up  - which it appears to be  then stop with the negativity  - we really get enough from HRC  0 she does not need your help!!!!
When the primaries started, I thought of voting for either democratic candidate in the general.  After Clinton's tactics, she's proven to be a devisive force who uses Bush/Rove tactics to win.

If she wins, I'm voting for someone else.

Obama, finish off this primary so we don't have four more years of partisanship and uncertainty.
Split Michigan/Florida delegates 50/50 and move on this would get the nation closer to the allocated 2025. and have the candidates continue the race from that point going forward.
I'm french. Obviously, we approach racial issues very differently here in Europe. I, we, the French media, are fascinated by Obama not because he's black but because he's brilliant.  
I want MSNBC to give THESE COMMENTS major press.  This is the stuff that the American people "want to hear" and "need to hear".  Talk about his comments on your "Politics Fix", "Meet the Press" and other shows.  Tell Tucker and Joe to really focus on the focused response that Sen. Obama gave.  
Some good news for Hillar in Pennsylvania, where two new polls show her up by double-digits. Link: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/03/clinton-up-double-digits-in-pa-where.html
Well said, I can't fault his reasoning on this matter
DO YOU WONDER WHY HILLARY MESSAGE KEEPS CHANGING.HILLARY IS NOT STUPID.MARK PENN GET PAID 4.3 MILLION FROM THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN FOR A REASON.PENN DOES INSIDE POLLING.HE HAS TARGETED EVERY GROUP WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO FIND OUT THERE FEARS AND THE MESSAGE HAS FOLLOWED.OLDER VOTERS OBAMA IS A DRUG HEAD.LATINOS OBAMA IS BLACK HE WILL NOT TAKE CARE OF YOUR NEEDS FIRST OBAMA WILL TAKE CARE OF BLACK PEOPLE.WHITE WOMEN OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN PICKING ON ME.MIDDLE CLASS WHITES OBAMA CAN NOT PROTECT YOU.OBAMA WILL BE A WEAK COMMANDER-IN-CHEIF.JEWISH VOTERS OBAMA IS A MUSLIM.HILLARY IS NOT SORRY FOR ONE THING THAT HAS COME OUT OF HER CAMPAIGN.SHE DOES NOT WANT OBAMA TO BE ELECTED THIS TIME.THAT IS WHY SINCE FEB 5TH HER AND MCCAIN HAVE HAD THE SAME TALKING POINTS.HILLARY IS LAYING THE GROUND WORK FOR A 2012 RUN.HILLARY WILL THEN SAY SEE ALL YOU DEMOCRATIC NOW YOUR HAPPY TO VOTE ME!
John Doe, if you want the media to be fair, tell them to ask HRC about Paul v. Clinton.  Research the topic and see for yourself.  There is a very interesting video as well.
It seems to me that the Clinton Campaign is once again trying to paint Senator Obama as the Black Candidate with this Geraldine Ferarro issue.  As an white 59 year old Obamican (who's mind is young, but who's body got older), I see Barack as Barack...a very talented young man who has a very compelling vision for this country.  I think his election will go a long way to helping us see each other as people.

My feeling is that this campaign is a "win-at-all-cost, damn the party, I just want to win no-matter-what" for the Clintons.  I have to believe that all (or at least) some of Ms. Ferarro's statement was a coordinated effort to bring race back into the race, i.e., Obama becomes the Black Candidate and Whites are not going to allow a Black man into the White House.  By separating from the Clinton campaign, Ms. Ferarro will now be able to lash out at Obama about race thereby keeping race in the race.  If by chance I may be right, this will divide the Democratic Party further...damaging it so badly that it could not be fixed again.  
Barack Obama is the voice of reason in this insane contest. H. Clinton has divided the party so very deeply that I can hardly look at her. Truth is not her forte. I am sorry that I am of her generation.

Women for Obama!
I just can't wait for April 15th, I want to see whats under the Clinton's tax veil!  Oh and the other day I watched a documentary that MSNBC did on all 3 candidates.  I watched Hillarys and quite honestly it scared me!  I mean she stuck by Bill the entire time and who knows how many times he cheated on her.  It looks more and more that she stayed with him for the power.  This just proves the logic that she will DO and say anything to win the power.  I mean back when they were campaigning for Bill as Gov. there was joke that when Hillary was coming in from the front door Bills women would be sneaking out the back!  How could a woman want to stay with a man who has cheated on her for years?! ANSWER HUNGER FOR POWER!
Florida and Michigan...as ME from Santa Ana said, seat them and split the votes 50:50.  Chuck Todd from MSNBC predicts that this is how it will fall out anyway.  If votes are split 50:50, look at how many millions of dollars it would save in campaigning and setting up elections...brilliant!
It is very frustrating that the spin on the racial issue tries to portray it as a negative thing. I do think that both race and gender play a role in the positions of these candidates. The fact that Obama does have a biracial family that is comprised of an African-American father DOES give him the advantage of bringing validity to his rhetoric on hope and change...the same way that the struggles that other historical public figures overcame gave them a voice and a platform. This is not only a time in our country where we are all searching for change/hope and a new direction, but we are eager to show the world that we HAVE in fact overcome our segregated and prejudiced past. That is what gives such power to both Barack and Hillary and is bringing out the next generation of voters in large numbers.

That is a fact and that is not playing the race card. In this time in our country we have continually moved towards bridging the divide and creating more of a blended culture than a melting pot - which is evident in all aspects of today's culture, from fashion and food, entertainment and the media to the work force and now in this very high-profile race for the White House. Barack prides himself on the fact that he is a patriot for change and hope and embodies what those ideas stand for. I am disheartened that when the subject is brought up by his oponent he chooses to treat it as a negative. You cannot use it both as your platform and as an attack from other side.

Let's quit playing the 'politically correct' crap and get down to the meat and potatoes of running the greatest nation in the world. It takes more than hope and change, more than a record of overcoming obstacles and more than an iron fist to do that...we need to challenge ALL of the candidates to get down to the basics!
This is what being presidential sounds like. Experience without character and integrity and true caring for your people and country isn't experience in any way of life I care to concern myself with. Give me judgement, heart, inspiration and hell yes HOPE!!! Thank you Sen. Obama.
They have asked him about his pastor. In one of the debates he said he rejected the pastor's support. Then Hilary made a stink about how SHE would "denounce" him, and Barack said that if she thought"denounce" was a stronger word, then he would be happy to concede the point to her, and to "denounce" AND "reject" the pastor. Everyone laughed and cheered. Guy is smooth!
Last time I checked the First Amendment applied even in the churches.  So Pastor Wright is as free as those attacking him to say what he likes.

In any case, he isn't running for anything, I don't think.
if there's a do-over in MICHIGAN and FLA, it ought to be much MUCH later down the line, giving candidates time to re-do the campaigning. and debates ought to be featured as well.
Dear President Carter and Vice President Gore:

This following is an email I sent to the DNC. I sincerely urge each of you would get involved in this situation.

[QUOTE]If the democratic party doesn’t understand why votes count, in Florida no less, then we are truly, truly lost. Do we need Jimmy Carter to come and oversee elections in THIS country now? What the hell!?!

I don’t care what Florida’s republican politicians did to tick off the DNC. I don't care what any politicians did to tick off the DNC. Voters deserve to have their votes counted. Voters in Florida went out in record numbers and VOTED in good faith.  Voting is the cornerstone of democracy. And what a pathetic way to rationalize giving Obama an advantage - not counting votes in Florida. Where have I heard this before?!?

This is voter suppression, and I don't care who is suppressing it or what their excuses are - IT IS WRONG, and we all know it.

I wish Al Gore would jump in and take charge of this issue. He may be the only person with the credibility and neutrality to resolve this situation.

Besides, do you think voters in Florida and Michigan are going to be fine with being disenfranchised and vote for either democrat in November? Can we PLEASE stop shooting ourselves in the foot and savaging our own party and principles?!?

When democrats start playing fast and loose with votes so openly, something has gone very wrong. I think Howard Dean is being a complete ass about this. He should be more concerned with making sure voters are heard than shutting them out with stupid gamesmanship and "rules."  It's NOT the voters fault all this BS went down the way it did. They showed up in good faith and VOTED.

I’m starting to think McCain deserves to win if Democrats are this hopelessly stupid and lost.


Respectfully,


Teri B . . .[/QUOTE]

[B]You can email Carter and Gore at: [email]carterweb@emory.edu[/email] and [email]info@carthagegroup.com[/email] [/B]

No matter which side you're on in the battle, if you're a Democrat, you know better than this, because we know what it's like to suffer because votes were suppressed and dirty-butterfly-ballot-tricks were used.

Seriously, have we completely lost our souls?


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