Clinton camp wants re-vote in MI

Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:32 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Murray
The Clinton campaign is stepping up the pressure for Obama to agree to a re-vote in Michigan. Of course, trailing Obama in the delegate count, they have a greater interest in having a do-over there and in Florida.

Said Clinton adviser Harold Ickes, who as a member of the DNC voted to strip both states of all their delegates: “The right to vote is the foundation of our democracy. If Barack Obama's campaign stands in the way of a new vote, he will be putting his own political interests ahead of the people of Michigan. They deserve to have a voice and a vote in the Democratic Party’s nominating process. A re-vote is the only way Michigan can be assured its delegation will be seated, and vote in Denver. If the Obama campaign thwarts a fair election process for the people of Michigan, it will jeopardize the Democratic nominee’s ability to carry the state in the general election.”

*** UPDATE *** Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor weighs in: “Considering the fact that Sen. Clinton is currently trying to prevent and delay votes in Texas from being counted because she didn't like the outcome, it's pretty apparent that the Clinton campaign’s views on voting are dependent on their own political interest. Hillary Clinton herself said in January that the Michigan primary “didn’t count for anything.” Now, she is cynically trying to change the rules at the eleventh hour for her own benefit. We received a very complex proposal for Michigan re-vote legislation today and are reviewing it to make sure that any solution for Michigan is fair and practical. We continue to believe a fair seating of the delegation deserves strong consideration.”

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Oh, puh-leeze! The high-and-mighty rhetoric of Icky and Company! If there is indeed a "do-over" in my state, then watch out Hills! You will be "done over"! Obama will take Michigan! And don't try to follow us out to the parking lot, either.

Flint MICHIGAN Woman (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:06 PM)

"...Is anyone else tired of justice being denied on the basis of technicality? ..."
Kathryn in Bham (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 4:39 PM)

Yes Kathryn, I am.
LET THE PEOPLE'S VOICES BE HEARD, LET THEM VOTE IN THE PRIMARY DAMN IT!
LET DEMOCRACY REIGN!

Hillary Clinton for The People, 2008!

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:06 PM)

James Hill, you can't be serious. How is this Obama's fault your delegates won't be seated? Give me a break...if Clinton was so damn inspired to have your delegates seated, where was she and Bill when you were disenfranchised in 2000 and 2004?

I think you need to start with your local office around the corner. Vote them out, Obama had nothing to do with that.

Starchild, Mo (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:07 PM)

The Clintons and the people that work for them have got to be the dumbest people (next to Bush) in America! Your guys voted to disenfranchise the vote in the first place. And this is why my vote went for Obama.

Fay, Fort Worth, TX (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:07 PM)

Um, the Florida and Michigan Dem party disenfranchised themselves. They took a big gamble and lost, period. If they had only stuck with the old schedule, they would be playing in the big game now. Sorry, FL & MI, you can't have it both ways. You lost the bet. Take your ball and go home.

Maighsi, Norfolk VA (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:07 PM)

Just when you thought you've heard it all... this coming from Ickes who voted to strip the delegates in the first place... My head is actually spinning from the tremendous amont of BS coming out of Camp Hillary today alone...(not to mention every other day - but is it me or has today been extra special with the BS..

Truly - how can these people live with themselves and all the deceit they fling around! My wise grampa told me years ago "Every dog has their day" well I wish to hell someone would let the dog catcher loose and put an end to all this nonsense!!

Women for Obama 08 - you go Lisa,CT - I'm on board!

Feisty Redhead IL (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:07 PM)

no one should use so called rules as a reason not to count someones vote when so many have lost there life for this right and we call are selfs americans.

james ,philly (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:09 PM)

Oh well, rules and fair play don't count in Hillary's politics. I have a great idea Hillary for Jester. A funny idea a Jester. Would be the same as the idea of her running the country.

Billy Tx. (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:10 PM)

The word is judgment. Perhaps, BHO did not know Rezco helped him buy his house and land, did not really know what he was inspired of by Wright, and did not know the ideals of preaching hatred, division, and damnation of his country in the very church that he has been associated with for 20 years and is still belonging to, the very church that still vehemently defends these ideals. If you truly did not know of the color of your mentor for 20 years, it calls into question of your judgment. If you know what your mentor preaches, you have the wrong judgment. Is this how you have based your judgment on the war, truly knew all intelligence that clearly demonstrated the facts, or based on your bet? If you knew all intelligence, what makes you so special without any security clearance? If you did not know all intelligence, what makes you so special for making your judgment? There is a fundamental difference between your fundamental belief in having or not having a War, and a decision that you must make and you are responsible to bear its consequences. Your first bet was wrong either way. Your second bet, excuse me, your judgment, was correct in the second instance. 50:50 - better than Bush! On the other hand, although your second bet would have avoided the loss of 4000 lives, your first bet would cost even more lives.

tooth (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:10 PM)

Questions: I have had friends for a long time that i grew up with, lot longer than 20 years that i been with everyday not every sunday.

My friends smoke,drink,curse,cheat on wife and....But i have never done any of what they done.

Why the media,voters and radio believe OBAMA will be like his pastor because what or how the pastor talk.

Remeber think about your pastor you dont talk to him everyday,even every sunday .you chances being like you pastor is slim.

All i'm saying to all of you are you all like your friends if so you all have a promblem.

TR,Pa (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:11 PM)

FLORIDA VOTER WHO HAD DAM WELL BETTER COUNT ! (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 4:45 PM)

I don't get it...the same people who disenfranchised you, did it in 2000 and 2004. They didn't stand up for you then and they left you high and dry again.

How is that a vote for Nader? Start with the folks who keeps screwing it up, evidently they are incompetent. They should have known from 2000 that this was touchy with Florida and they evidently don't give a damn, so start with the office around the corner from you. They should be the source of your anger.

Michelle Zee (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:11 PM)

Let's have Michigan and Florida vote to see if they want a re-vote.

It is ridiculous... break the rules, pay the price. Simple.

James, Wichita, KS (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:14 PM)

For all the angry Florida posts above: Turn OFF your caps button.....it's annoying. And, if you're so angry about the outcome, take it to your own politicans who screwed this up in the first place. Neither Obama nor Clinton had anything to do with this. It was your state's officials that went against the rules and Florida, in particular, the nation has to wonder why a Republican Govenor would want to move up a Deocratic primary????? Hmmm? So, get over it, and vote your state officals out of office and quit complaining to a national audience.......we've heard it once before and the nation knows what a "hanging chad" is, thank you.

Diane from Illinois (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:14 PM)

MEMO TO JAMES HILL - SEN. OBAMA HAS SAID HE WILL ABIDE BY WHAT THE DNC DECIDES, LEARN TO READ AND CAPS DON'T MAKE YOU RIGHT, JUST SHOUTY!

CAPS MAKE ME RIGHT! (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:16 PM)

Why the hell would anyone vote for that obama guy now. Are you obamafans deaf, dumb and blind. He is done. Get it!!

HONESTY in the White House Not Obama he doesn't know what honesty is.
INTEGRITY in the White House Not Obama doesn't have any.
COMPETENCE in the White House Not obama, you must be crazy.
Obama should agree to a re-vote in Michigan.
What is he scared off.... Losing!!

SD (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:16 PM)

<<Sierra, SF (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 4:40 PM)>>

Well look who must have the day off - the moronic ramblings of the cut and paste queen.....Y-A-W-N!!!

Oh, NO YOU CAN'T!

Kevin, Rehoboth (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:16 PM)

For those of you that believe that Obama doesn't want a re-vote in Michigan, you're falling for the Clinton spin. Obama and his campaign have stated that they would go along with the DNC on a re-vote that was both fair and balanced.

Hillary is trying to make it seem like it's Obama's fault that the delegates were stripped away. Like with the Iraq war, she deflects blame instead of taking ownership for it. That's not the kind of leader I want for our country.

Enrique, Chicago (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:17 PM)

Who do you believe will win the redo in Michigan?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1885

.

dblake, Austin (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:17 PM)

Hillary would never get away with being such a sore loser if she wasn't a woman. A man would know when he'd been beaten fair and square...only a woman would continue a campaign and try to win on a technicality.

jojo (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:18 PM)

ssshhhhhhhh... .. the black helicopters are approaching...........Hitler gave great speeches too..

patty,sd,ca (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:19 PM)

Thank you, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!!

It's about time somebody else picked up on something I've been pointing out all along.

**** Harold Ickes voted to strip Michigan and Florida of their delegates in the first place. ****

Now as a member of the Clinton campaign he wants them back!

"They deserve to have a voice and a vote in the Democratic Party’s nominating process."

You took it away from them, Harry! You took it away from them.

Seems a little two-faced to me...we took their votes away from them but don't stand in our way of giving them back!

Pete - Albany, NY (Sent Monday, March 17, 2008 5:19 PM)

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