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Hillary talks Obama, MI, records

Posted: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:35 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
PHILADELPHIA -- Clinton told reporters she looked forward to reading the much-anticipated speech on race and religion rival Barack Obama delivered today and said it was important to talk about issues of race and gender.

She also expressed disappointment at reports that a proposal for a re-vote in Michigan was in danger of dying and talked about the upcoming release of some of her records.

"I did not have a chance to see or to read yet Sen. Obama's speech but I'm very glad that he gave it. It's an important topic. Issues of race and gender in America have been complicated throughout history and they are complicated in this primary campaign. There have been detours and pitfalls along the way, but we should remember that this is a historic moment for the Democratic Party and for our country. We will be nominating either the first  African-American or woman for the presidency of the United States and that is something that all Americans can and should celebrate."

More: "I think it's important to address these issues of race and gender and I am looking forward to reading it, which I haven't had the chance to do. Bu I think that, you know, these are difficult issues and we have seen that in this campaign. Race and gender are difficult issues and therefore we need to have more discussion about them. So obviously, the more that Sen. Obama and I talk try to about it or try to put it in some context, the more people will feel free to do so as well and I think that's helpful for the country."

Her reaction to news that the prospects of Michigan's re-vote were on life support: "I think that would be real shame. I think that, you know, my campaign has been very public in its support of a re-vote. We have said we would support the people and government of Michigan in trying to do that, which I think is exactly the right thing to do, so I would hope that some last minute compromise would be worked out so that there can be a re-vote and I think there should be a re-vote."

On the release of her first lady schedules: "I think I'm probably the most transparent person in public life," she said, citing the many books that had been written about her. "I understand that the National Archives is finally going to release 11,000 pages of my schedules tomorrow, which, as you know has been totally their prerogative, as their process under law, which they have followed very painstakingly, and I am told that tomorrow they're gong to do it, although I'm told that, I don't know that for a fact. Stay tuned. There will be a lot more. The book and writing and words about me will continue to fill many archives and warehouses across the world."

Clinton's event today began with supporters Valerie Plame Wilson and her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, speaking about their faith in Clinton and in her ability to end the war in Iraq. "This Administration misled Congress and the American people with their misuse of intelligence," said Plame Wilson. "The war has damaged our international credibility and our ability to provide leadership and therefore to collect intelligence that's so critical to our national security."

Plame Wilson said Clinton understands the position the war had put America in and that she had a good plan to help get out of Iraq "in ways that make sense."

The appearance by the two figures, closely linked to the debate over the justification for the war in Iraq, was part of an effort to keep the focus on the war as the country marks its fifth anniversary.

Wilson touched on his own experience in the lead up to the war. "It is totally unfair and misleading to try and characterize George Bush's war as Hillary Clinton's responsibility," Wilson said, before going on the say that she had shown leadership on Iraq.

Barack Obama has repeatedly argued Clinton showed poor judgment by voting to authorize the president to use force in Iraq.

Much of Clinton's speech was a restatement of her plans for Iraq, communicated in a speech yesterday and in previous speeches. She also sought again to draw a distinction between her plans and Obama's plan, after an advisor recently suggested the Illinois senator's plans for withdrawing troops from Iraq might not be carried out if he is elected.
 
"My plans are not a best case scenario or a promise I do not intend to keep. The work I have done in the Senate has laid the groundwork for what I will do as president," she said.

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The most transparent person in public life?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Phew.

Now, about those tax returns and donor lists to the Clinton Library...
Message to Mark Penn and Howard Wolfson:

Gentlemen, start your spin-gines.

Spoken like a true president! A real uniter! Thank you Senator!
"I think I'm probably the most transparent person in public life"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Transparent... yes, but not in the way you think Hillary.   You are the one of the most secretive people around, right up there with George Bush.  But you are right, you are very transparent in that we see you for what you are.  Well, all but those that are suckered in to the lies you have repeated so often that people now believe them.
"I think I'm probably the most transparent person in public life," she said, citing the many books that had been written about her.

I really hate to jump on the lady, given her fair comments re the Obama speech, but her problem, and her husband's, is that they are not at all transparent---they are manipulative and lack integrity and the failure to provide fundamental data lead to the recurring, and unresolved question of:  Who owns Hillary Clinton?

Even in the best case, she cannot help but be influenced by the huge private fortune (as opposed to a sideyard Obama has) bestowed by her public life.  her failure to disclose simply feeds the problem.

I understand why Clinton does not touch too much on the race issue since her campaign has been under scrutiny for some of the border line racial comments that have been made.  I feel Obama's speech addressed the pastor issue and educated many on what some of the real racial issues and the history of how they have plagued this country.  The problem won't go away entirely but I do believe his speech will give him a lift as it came across honest and heartfelt which is more than I can say for anything Hillary speaks about.
What a ridiculous comment about the "many books that have been written about her."  George Bush and Dick Cheney have had hundreds of books written about them; doesn't mean we know anything about what our government did the past 8 years.
"I think I'm probably the most transparent person in public life."
-HRC

That's rich.
I thought that her response on race/gender was good, not a misstep in anyway, which is good to see.

I think, though, that she is being disengenuous on the issue of Mich. revoting as she has been all over the place on that one (the Jan primary doesn't count, we need a revote, count the votes as is, and now apparently back to we need a revote).

I really do hope we can stay on issues (I don't mind discussion on race and gender barriers/politics and it might be absolutely necessary at that point but not to the point that we lose site of the other big issues facing this country.)

Obama 08
How can she say that her plan is not a best case scenario? She does not know what will be going on then. If the military commanders say they need to alter her withdrawal plan, will she not listen to them? We already have a president that doesn't listen to military leaders. We don't need another one.
'..."I think I'm probably the most transparent person in public life," she said, citing the many books that had been written about her....'

Carl Berstein's book called her 'soulless'
That's [retty descriptive

If you're so transparent, why not release your tax returns ?

Why not release the contributor's list for the Clinton 'Library' ?

Why not speak about your REAL ROLE in SCHIP ?

Did you really have anything to do with it ?
or was it Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch who crafted SCHIP ?
Ahh...Obamabots are spreading the false meme that Hillary is secretive!  LOL
After Obama has LIED about his long time relationships with Rezko and Wright - until AFTER he became a front runner.
Of course, the media and MSNBC condoned it.

I don't care how many undemocratic caucuses Obama has won - he's a flawed candidate and many Dems aren't willing to roll the dice on an Experiment.

Plus - walking on Obama's racist eggshells for 4 years isn't enticing.



HILLARY SPEAK: SHAME ON ALL YOU DEMOCRATICS WHO THINK I LIKE TO PLAY BY THE RULES. AFTER ALL IF PRESIDENT BUSH  DOES NOT LIKE THE RULES OR LAWS HE BREAKS THEM.SO WHY CANT I DO IT? SHAME ON YOU DEMOCRATICS FOR THINKING I WOULD EVER FIGHT FAIR!
"’I think I'm probably the most transparent person in public life,’ [Clinton] said …”

Now, there’s a troublesome prospect.  Say it ain’t so, Hillary.
A+ for her response to Obama.  D- for claiming to be "the most transparent person in public life".  

OK, where are those earmark lists, tax returns and the straight scoop on who fund the Clinton Library?

I think the Obama supporters need to stop and think about how there is no way he can win. This will not go away since he has made such a big deal on us believing in his judgement on his speech. So now we have use our judgement and see this man for what he really is.
Crying over records of the past just makes you guys look and sound like immature fools. Will it change anything No.
So face reality your candidate will not win.
The woman is too emotional, extremely narrow minded, is a lousy listener, has no new ideas, is extremely negative,and, has an extremely over inflated ego. Long story short: She is too IMMATURE to be a president of anything.
Looks like she was telling the truth when she said it's the Archives who release the info, not her.  As soon as they were ready and fully gone through, they were released.  So Obama people, stop trying to make something out of nothing and stick to the issues.  You complain when people don't stick to the issues with Obama and instead talk about his paster, why not take the high road now and let's talk about the issues.  You know why you won't?  Because she wins the healthcare issue, she wins the experience issue, she wins ths the economy issue, and both have the same plans for Iraq, so what is left for the Obama supporters, character assassination.  She said her Tax records will be released on April 15th and I take her at her word.  Unlike Obama who says one thing and his aids say he will do another to foriegn governments.  

Sierra, how long have you been a Clinton hater, since the election?  Or are you just a right winger who wants to run against Obama?  Sierra, you and the rest of the Obama supporters who continue to attack her character make me wonder if you guys are really Democrats.  I will go after Obama on his record or if his campaign are telling people the opposite of what he is telling the American people, but I have no doubt that Obama has good character and will not attack him on that, but if you just want to divide the Democrats, then answer me this, why did Obama tell people that he never heard his paster say these things a few days ago, but today he said he did?  What should I take from that?  BTW, it was a great speech.  
On the subject of Obama's speech I must say as a 49 year old white American who is self employed I was truly proud to have been able to see it on T.V. It was a inspiring speech to a person like me from Texas who remembers the days of the first bus showing up at my school. Congrats to him for having the guts to do it.
And yes I voted for him in Texas and am damn proud of it.
Now to our old buddy HRC.
Please do use all a favor and release all of your documents at once or just go home.
Thank you Barack.
Barack Obama sought to establish himself in the black community in Chicago by linking himself to the racist Wright.  He did this gladly for 20 years and got the benefit of it from the black community.

Now he will suffer for it.  He thinks that a 1/2 hour speech can undo 20 years of saying AMEN to the racist pastor Wright. It won't happen despite the MSNBC spinners.

Obama started strong and is finishing weak and he can only thank himself. MSNBC cannot blame the Clintons for this mess.  White voters sitting on the fence are jumping off and not in the direction of Obama.

The polls will show in the coming days and weeks that Obama is lost in America and is not electible.
No need in criticzing Hillary any longer. She is a  mote point. This race is over and it is time to begin discussing Obama's race against McCain.  
I do not think Hillary will pull the troops out of Iraq right away and I would not be surprised if she did not pull them out in two or three years if she is elected president. I think she is moving to the left on this issue, and once in, will listen to Petraeus and the other generals over there.  I am willing to bet money on this.
obamanuts going crazy NOW!!!!!!!
stay calm you guys you don't have to attack just because she is not the candidate you support when did that become the mature thing to do, take example of your candidate and his speech today and relax because ALL YOU are doing is dividing our democratic party and making this VERY PERSONAL. obam represents unity, correct? WELL SHOW IT!!!!!! just because you don't agree doesn't give you the right to belittle anyone or anything. PLEASE STOP THE DIVISION!!!!!
Keep trying to move the goalpost.  
"I think I'm probably the most transparent person in public life."

Too bad you've chosen to keep that "experience" as First Lady so private.
Get the duct tape!
Obama/Clinton
'08 & '12
why don't you cat's at first read post a copy of the agreement that the democratic candidates signed saying florida and michigan were off the table because they would not obey the rules? maybe that would stop all the hen cackling, be sure and highlight the esteemed hillary rodham clinton's signature too.
"I think I'm probably the most transparent person in public life," she said, citing the many books that had been written about her.
----------------------------------------------------

So that makes HER and Harry Potter.
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We are tired of the excuses - where are the records ? Where are the tax returns?
Please tell me how someone can vote for, Hillary?  I need to know!
-secretive
-partisan
-shady campaign tactics
-no experience
-has always been and is mired in scandal

PLEASE TELL ME!
The Clinton campagin was not the first to bring up race in the media as many of the Obama people and the media has told.  It was Michelle Obama in November of 2007 that indicated Blacks needed to wake up - and support Obama.  As is blacks had some type of requirement to support him becasue he was black. The chickens have come home to roost for Obama.  It was their campagin that injected race into this campaign - and blamed Bill Clinton for it.  There was a reason they did this.  The only way they could win SC was to put a divide in the historical black support the Clinton was had.  The media picked up on this - and made Bill Clinton into a racist demon.  Their plan has backfired.  I hope the media - keeps asking the tough questions - why now did he take this racist preacher off his campaign?
It's too bad that Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson support Hillary, especially she authorized the war. Nobody's apparently going to get out quickly enough and without conditions, so all we can do is punish the culprits who killed all those Americans and Iraquis. At least with Barack there's some hope! We've all seen the Clinton show before and we know the smoke and mirrors there; just more divisive government, only with a slightly more progressive twist.
Well it is true, she has no choice but be transparent. At least I know what's in her closet. And she does not preach holier than thou.

Do you guys know even a shadow of Obama's closet?

Some of which are only showing up now. I wasn't in the pew - no wait (after evidence shown) I was there but I didn't agree with Wright even if I stayed in that group for 20 years and had my kids listen to his hateful message. Oh and yes, I can unite. I have a mind of my own. Give me a break!!!

I am glad that Valerie and Joseph Wilson are finally showing up in the campaign. These two are true American heroes.

I dare MSNBC to post this for a change.
The more I see on here the more I understand why I would Never vote for him. Uniter  ya right . You supporters cannt find fault with the issues so you personally attack Hillary and dont even know why.You are a pathetic group and are costing us a lot of votes for this party. You dont want unity in fall is that it??Your doing a great job.Well lets talk about why Obama lied about hearing these things( of his pastor) when before he didnt. Like NAFTA no meeting oh ok there was no talk on NAFTA oh ok yes there was.This is the judgement and honesty we want ,not.How will he help our image in the world when  we cannt even believe him here.How will Farrakhan and Wright help us globally become trusted and well thought of??No
Did anyone get the feeling that she is nervous about the information getting ready to come out?

I think we are getting ready to be "shocked" and "awed"

Obama's speech... WOW...

The people that have negative stuff to say about that speech... simply didn't read it or are not intelligent enough to understand it... WOW!

Michigan and Florida... oh well. My state has a great Governor to thank for this - Funny how both Governors are HRC supporters... HMMMMMMMM!!!!

Obama 08'
She is one of the most transparent because so much has been written about her, fools! That's what she meant.

Now that Obama has Farrakahn and his racist pastor (for 20 years and yet he says he did not know of his hate-filled comments, is he trying to give us all a wink-wink?)pray he never is elected.

Go Hill, Go!  
Obamabots - I ask you, what else must she disclose?  Her bra size? Her pantyhose size? Her average weekly bowel movements?  Give it a friggn break already.
I have to hmmmmmmm on the transparent comment.Americans KNOW that is not true.As for Obamas speech ,it had to happen sooner or later ,and it was a WONDERFUL speech!I think that if Americans will understand the implications of his not disowning the pastor and remaining loyal to his church,it shows that he WILL remain loyal and faithfull to THIS COUNTRY and Americans ,dispite our political screw-ups and our faults!UNITY !,it's a word I use often ,and unless this country unites as ONE unbiased country , we WILL fail at insuring a decent future for our coming generations.And we do need to get back on track concerning the main isssues this country faces as a UNITED country.      
I'm a Obama supporter, and I've been pretty critical of what I thought was race bating coming from the Clinton campaign.  That being said, I really do appreciate her words today.  I thought it showed alot of class on her part.  Hopefully this a sign of things to come, and both sides can calm down.    
****WOMAN FOR HILLARY****

GO HILLARY !!
GO GIRL !!

YOUR THE BEST!
Transparent, really, that's what she thinks, wow.  Just when I didn't think she could be more out of touch with reality.  Probably thinks Bill doesn't cheat on here either.
Hillary can't let an Obama moment go by without trying to wrap herself in it -- the discussion was about race, Mrs. Clinton and you marginalize even that by getting your own agenda in. But, for the most transparent person in the universe (rofl, lol, omfg gasp, aaauauugugugugugughghhhh) this humility is to be expected. Health care reform in America wouldn't be a campaign issue in 2008, it would have been reality in 1993 had Mrs. Clinton been 1/10th as transparent and inclusive as she now claims. The Clintons' recasting of American History so that they play the only key roles in their lifetimes is stunning.
Submitted by: Joan of Arc (Hey, I said I'm her, it must be true)
The over the top Hillary bashing on this blog is getting so completely out of control. It is wrong on so many levels to attack her on such personal terms. I don't think I am alone in my feelings and before I stop reading this blog I would like to know if anyone else feels the same way and what you think we can or should do about it? Thanks
Oh, Hillary, can you say EARMARKS?  Most transparent, eh?  Bet we never see those because she's "so busy."
I respect her so much. She is mature and not a liar like Obama. President Clinton also has done alot for the black polulation and to have Obama turn that into fabrication and lies is not something a future president should do. I especially after watching Obama's speech today would never vote for him. The Republicans would love to tear him apart.
My reason for supporting Hillary Clinton was that if you followed her career she has been consistent in her commitment to public service and would make a more knowledgeable president then Barack Obama who I feel is no where near ready to assume the responsibilities that he would have to face. It has nothing to do with rac.
Obama: Presidential, intelligent, Statesman
Hillary: Whining, spinning, devious Harpy
So the National Archives have finally released her appointment records. Does that make anyone happy? Nope. More blood is needed it seems.  For years the the special prosecutor Ken Starr dug and dug into the Clintons lives.  And she was not found guilty of one dang thing.  So just what are we looking for here?  Everyone makes it seem like the Clintons sat down with Turbo-tax one day and did their returns.  They have to have extremely complicated taxes, and no doubt have professionals doing their taxes. As to prior years I am sure there is nothing to reveal other than the fact that Bill has been a very successful ex=Presidnet. Hillary has been pretty busy lately.  Give her a little slack.  I would bet that her activities as reflected in her appointment schedules show a lot more involvement in domestic and international affairs than either Laura or Barbara Bush, or Nancy Reagan. So what is point?  For 35 years she has been involved in many things which give her a heck of a lot more experience than the average person and I am sorry to say a much broader spectrum of activities than Mr. Obama.

These people are real idiots. Who do they think they're foooling?

"This Administration misled Congress and the American people with their misuse of intelligence,"

If you can find some reason to give Hillary a pass for authorizing the war, why are Republicans wrong for finding some reason to give Bush and McCain a pass?


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