Clinton calls on Obama to accept MI re-vote

Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:30 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton, Michigan

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones and NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
DETROIT -- Clinton today stepped up the pressure on Obama to back a re-vote in Michigan, calling it a crucial test of whether he means what he says or not.

"Sen. Obama speaks passionately on the campaign trail about empowering the American people. Today, I'm asking him to match those words with actions to make sure the people of Michigan and Florida have a voice and a vote in this election," she told local members of the AFSCME union, which has endorsed her. "I have accepted the plan for a new vote in Michigan, proposed in draft legislation and approved by the Democratic National Committee. In fact the DNC put out a statement earlier this morning making clear that the proposal fits within the DNC rules. It is fully within the party's rules. I call on Sen. Obama to do the same."

Clinton said 600,000 voters in Michigan and 1.7 million Florida voters were at risk of being shut out of the Democratic process. "I think that's wrong and frankly it is un-American and we cannot let that continue," she said. "This goes way beyond this election and it goes way beyond who's running, because no matter where you were born or how much money you were born into, no matter where you worship or the color of your skin, it is a bedrock American principle that we are all equal in the voting booth."

Michigan has 128 pledged delegates, but the state has been stripped of all of the because it broke party rules by moving up its vote. Clinton won the uncontested January primary, but Obama's name was not on the ballot.

The comments came shortly after her campaign held a second conference call in two days to accuse her rival of standing in the way of the Democratic process, because the state's proposal for a re-vote can not go forward until he signs off. "This isn't about political gamesmanship," spokesman Phil Singer said on the call. "This is about counting votes."

"If the Obama campaign tends to allow voters in both Michigan and Florida to be disenfranchised, that's their prerogative," Singer continued. "Our belief is that the voters in these states should be counted and their voices should be heard."

Clinton needs a re-vote in Michigan and needs to do well in it to gain more delegates, add to her popular vote total, and convince superdelegates she should be the nominee.

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Comments

I heard Obama say that ALL the people in this country MATTER... Words MATTER - PEOPLE matter!!

Voices need to be heard and UNITE this country
AS ONE !!!

WHY THEN IS HE OBJECTING TO A RE-VOTE in FL or MI????

WHY does he consistantly say one thing yet do another!!

WHY cant people matter in this country!

THIS IS AMERICA !! WORDS SHOULD MATTER..

Mad as Hell (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:36 PM)

ANYONE BUT OBAMA.

How dare Obama lump every priest,rabbi, pastor, with his racist pastor.

GREAT JOB AT INSULTING EVERY RELIGION DURING HOLLY WEEK.

ANYONE BUT OBAMA

OBAMAS SOLUTION WHITE AMERICAN IF YOU ELECT ME ALL YOUR SINS WILL BE FORGIVEN

patty,sd,ca (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:36 PM)

Hillary never cared about a re-vote in Michigan until she was losing. This is the only reason she is getting involved in this. The DNC made the rules, they should stick to them.

But then again, Liberals never follow the rules anyway.

jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:37 PM)

Why does she keep trying to make it sound like its Obama...

Other news outlets are reporting from people in the closed door meeting, its the legislature and county officials, who are not voting for this.....

This is rediculous, that MSNBC keeps letting her spin the facts.

Pay attention people, this is bad!

DeniseGA (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:38 PM)

Just another ploy by the Clinton's to try and steal the nomination. Everyone knew going in that the delegates would not count, now they want to change the rules to benefit the Clinton's campaign. I am an Republican who will vote for John McCain.

Robert, Sacramento, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:38 PM)

It's not his fault, you monster. You're a deceptive divisive politician who will say anything and do anything to win.

The Facts (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:39 PM)

Are the superdelegates from Michigan and Florida going to be allowed to cast votes at the convention? If anyone should be disenfranchised, it should be them.

Chris, MI (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:40 PM)

Go to politico, they are reporting the real news. MI Senator saying that the vote had not changed, and there is no new support for this.

My God her campaign has no morals!

DeniseGA (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:40 PM)

Is anybody else getting really tired of the Clinton campaign flip-flopping, honestly it's just absurd at this point! How can anyone support a candidate that will say absolutely anything to make themselves look better in print, and only back it up with rhetoric. Time and again the Obama campaign presents intelligent positions, and Clinton can only fire back with partisan drivel aimed squarely at her automatant supports. If the party loses in November they have only themselves to blame.

mat m. (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:41 PM)

Please Senator CLinton,

We're a country at war, mourning this infamous day that you helped create. We can't take anymore lies or distractions.

adam/Brooklyn New York City (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:41 PM)

Robert, Sacramento, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:43 PM)

Hillary will spin this anyway she pleases...
She learned well about the art of lying from her husband.

Can anybody prove Hillary wanted a recount of Michigan voters when she was winning???????

I've searched for a while and cannot come up with proof, which means we have to take the words as written...

Hillary Clinton wants a revote only because she is losing....

Anybody care to debate me about that one?

jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:43 PM)

Patty, no need to yell. What the heck is Holly week?

Put everyone back on the ballot to include Dodd, Biden, Edwards, Kucinich, Richardson, et al. Geez, I'd kinda like a do over of the last 30 yrs of my life but it ain't happening any time soon. Gosh darned petulant brats them politicians!!

Phred, NH (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:43 PM)

Clinton closing in on Obama in NC
Raleigh, N.C. – Hillary Clinton has cut Barack Obama’s lead in North Carolina to one
point, according to the newest survey from Public Policy Polling.
Obama leads 44-43 in the state, after leading by four points in a similar poll conducted by
PPP two weeks ago. Clinton has particularly made gains with female voters, with whom
she now has a slight lead after trailing in the previous poll.
“Some folks in the national media have been treating North Carolina as if winning it is a
given for Barack Obama,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “The
reality is that the state is pretty close, and either candidate could emerge with a victory.”
Recent PPP polls in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Florida have shown Obama struggling in
the wake of the recent controversy surrounding his pastor.
The survey also found Richard Moore gaining 17 points from a poll two weeks ago to get
within a 44-34 margin of Bev Perdue.
“That’s the power of television,” said Debnam. “Richard Moore’s new ad, launched in
the last week, has clearly caused some movement in the polls.”
In the Democratic race for US Senate, Kay Hagan continues to hold a double digit lead
over Jim Neal. Hagan is at 22% to Neal’s 11%, followed by Duskin Lassiter at 5% and
Marcus Williams and Howard Staley with 3%.
PPP will have a new poll every week between now and the primary for the major
Democratic races in North Carolina.
PPP surveyed 521 likely Democratic primary voters on March 17th. The survey’s margin
of error is +/- 4.3%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed and weighting, may
introduce additional error that is more difficult to quantify.
Complete results are attached and can be found at www.publicpolicypolling.com.

kevin,fl (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:44 PM)

I say LET THEM VOVE. Hillery, You only received 55% of the vote when nobody else ran against you in Michigan earlier, how do you think you are going to do better than that now running against a real canadate. I say again Let Them Vote and let Clinton get really embarased.

Real Thinker (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:45 PM)

It's not his fault, you monster. You're a deceptive divisive politician who will say anything and do anything to win.
The Facts (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:39 PM)

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You are talking about Obama right. I agree he is a racist monster.

Clinton 08

patty,sd,ca (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:45 PM)

Pure propaganda. Clinton seems like a faint whining voice growing more distant at this point.

Blake, Denver, CO (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:45 PM)

They both agreed to sanctions before the start of the primary. Where was Hillery then?? Of course she wants a vote now because it will help her.

The sanctions against MI and FL were lame but those were the rules at the start of the game. No changing the rules in the middle of the game.

joePA (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:46 PM)

THANK YOU SENATOR CLINTON ! MY VOTE COUNTS JUST AS MUCH AS YOUR DOES AND MY VOTE AND MY DELEGATES MUST COUNT 100%. NO MORE AND NO LESS. I HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, 14TH. AMENDMENT. NO STATES SHALL DENY TO ANY PERSON WITHIN IT'S JURISDICTION THE "EQUAL" PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW. ie. THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND HAVE THE VOTES "COUNT".WE WILL TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT IF YOU WISH TO. THIS IS AMERICA AND WE HAVE RIGHTS AND WE WILL FIGHT FOR OUR LRGAL RIGHTS, WHAT EVER IT TAKES. PERIOD !

MAD AS HELL FLORIDA VOTERS (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:46 PM)

So would revote in MI an FLA disenfranchise voters in other states who followed the rules. I would go along with a revote in both states if they have way to prevent double voting by people who voted Republican the first time because the first 'didn't count'. Best solution is simply 50/50 the delegates, let them participate and move on.

Van Missouri (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:46 PM)

It does not matter if you are for Obama or Clinton...

But voters need to be heard in this country. This is what this country is all about.

Democracy! LET THE VOICES BE HEARD!
VOTE ! It is our god given right as Americans!

Domocracy in America? (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:46 PM)

Clinton is using two arguements...

1) She wants people to have their votes count.

2) She wants Super Delegates to overturn the votes of the people and give her the nomination.

Standard Clinton double-speak.

She doesn't give a damn about the people. Just herself.

BL, Cincinnati OH (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:46 PM)

I am very very sorry for my horrible comments.

patty,sd,ca (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:46 PM)

come on Mr. for the people, for hope and change and unity. A new poll in Florida today learned that 24% of dems would not vote in the general election or vote republican if the votes are not counted and the delegates not sat. They have a plan in Michigan- Last week YOU Mr. Obama said as long as the DNC agrees it was fair to have a re-vote- WELL? Is this more of your words?

kevin,fl (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:46 PM)

Like Glen Beck says--Hilary--

TOO BAD

Your leaders-- not Barrack Obama-- broke the rules. Blame them --not Obama.
In fact, FIRE THEM,,IMPEACH THEM,, WERE IS THE VOICE OF THE VOTERS IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA--ARE YOU COWARDS? CAN'T YOU PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT IS DUE--WITH YOUR STATES' LEADERSHIP? I AM EMBARRASSED TO CALL YOU MY COUNTRY-MEN-WOMEN-- BECAUSE YOU, THE PEOPLE OF MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA HAVE NO GUTS!

YOU SIT THERE AND CRY, "UNFAIR, MY VOTE SHOULD COUNT!"
AND I AGREE--IT SHOULD-- BUT WHO REALLY DISENFRANCHISED YOU?---YOUR STATES'--LEADERSHIP--

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING MARCHES IN THE STREETS OF FLORIDA AND DETROIT LAST NIGHT, MARCHERS FROM PEOPLE WHO SHOULD INSISTED THE STATE LEADERSHIP WHO GOT THEM INTO THIS MESS RESIGN FROM OFFICE--IMMEDIATELY--OR PAY FOR A NEW ELECTION FROM THEIR OWN POCKETS-- THEY SHOULD BE IN COURT FOR THIS TRAVISTY.

SO STAND MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA AND TAKE IT TO THE STREETS; OTHERWISE, SHUT-UP AND SIT THERE AND TAKE IT!
FROM YOUR STATE POLITICIANS! YOU MADE YOUR BED--SLEEP IN IT-- OR FIX IT!

THIS WOULD NOT STAND IN THE STATE WHERE I AM FROM.

Wake up Michigan (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:47 PM)

Please, please stop the bickering. All the media need to focus on defeating Republicans n the fall election.
-Trevor Wynne
Washington, DC
www.atimelikethis.us

Trevor Wynne, Washington DC (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:48 PM)

Patty from SD, CA, how many priest have admitted or have been found guilty of molesting children, thereby costing the Catholic Church millions of dollars. I would rather have a racist pastor than a pedalife priest if I attended church, which I don't.
Robert, Sacramento, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:43 PM)

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I don't call a priests that molested children to be my mentor and defend them and try to justify their "anger".

patty,sd,ca (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:48 PM)

Our votes and our delegates had better count. Your vote is not any more important or less than mine.

Mary Andrews,Miami,Florida (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:48 PM)

patty, what makes you so hateful?

I hear intelligent, thoughtful Americans all over the place in admiration of Barack Obama's speech. They are all seeing the big picture, which is that we have to unite after generations of ignorance.

Once again, after the Clinton Monica years and the Bush Iraq invasion years, the world will laugh once again at how stupid Americans are.

You're example A.
HP, Boston - example B.

Clinton supporters - morons. You people wouldn't dream of raising the bar, now would you?

You're not alone - most of the media can't seem to do it either.

Would love to see change (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:48 PM)

Seriously, all this talk of disenfranchisment is disturbing. SERIOUSLY. This is disengenious. Why is the press not addressing this? This is not dienfranchisement, this is a group of people who are punishing some of their own for breaking rules that were all agreed upon by all parties concerned. Disenfranchisment means your right to vote has been taken away or that you are otherwise not allowed to vote(see felony conviction). Voters in both MI and FL will have the opportunity to vote and have their votes counted in General election. To insist on changing the rules in the middle of a contest is the hieght of unsportsmanlike conduct.

Ryan Walsh, Orlando, FL (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:49 PM)

These 2 states broke the rules. Why isn't the media reporting the names of the people responsible. Why aren't they blaming the states for disenfranchising the voters? Obama was no on the ballot in Michigan and did not campaign in Florida. I think the fact that these 2 things did not take place and that a primary costs an incredible amount of money should be enough to tell these 2 states better luck next time and don't move your dates up. You agree to the rules and we follow law and rules in America.

Rod, SC (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:49 PM)

Okay everyone, HER HIGHNESS, Hillary CLinton has spoken, and she DEMANDS to be crowned!!!!

Everyone must bow down to QUeenie her Majesty and do as she orders!

This is HER ELECTION!! HER TURN! SHE deserves it!!!

RULES SHULES!!! We are talking about BILLARY CLINTON the QUEEN! And DAMNED you if you try and get in her way!!!

We should just all back down and let QUeenie HER ROYAL MAJESTY have her thrown!! This isn't about any of us, it's about her RIGHT to RULE this country!!

HOW dare ANYONE try and stop her!!! Come on now, we all know delegates, votes and states don't matter!!!

We are talking about the QUEEN Royal MAjesty Billary!!!

Now, after we crown the Queen, I will call on Billary to explain to all the children, voters and people around the world, why RULES don't matter and how the First Woman President, LIED, CHEATED and STOLE teh election!!

This one will go down in HISTORY!!!!!

Obama 08

IOWA (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:50 PM)

I'm a strong Obama supporter. He's been honest and intelligent throughout his campaign. The Michigan Democratic party fouled up bad in holding their primary early. That being said, I hope he goes along with a new vote...let the chips fall where they may. He's been fooled and trapped by a scheming Hillary, but there it is. I believe most Americans have already made up their minds on who is their candidate, Michigan included. This is an historic election. We'll see what Americans do. And remember, "Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

Bonnie (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:51 PM)

a revote would be a slap in the face to the Democratic parties in states that followed the rules. florida and michigan knew the rules, knew the consequences and defiantly gave the DNC the finger. if they want to count in the future, they need to elect lawmakers who are willing to follow the rules.

thursday (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:51 PM)

Read Obama letter on CNN which was sent to the Clinton camp. It clearly shows there will be ligation with this revote because MI has an open Primary and Republicans and Independents voted in Jan thinking the Dem Primary did not count. Some may have wanted to vote in the Dem primary and will not be able to now...so we are bound to have lawsuits flying after the revote

You cant' change the rules in the middle of a tigth race...sorry Hillary...Field Goal, Touchdown, Game Over...Obama Wins

Gail, Dayton, OH (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:51 PM)

Geeeez Hillary, stop it with trying to divide the people in Michigan with their legislaturers as you've done with your own party and the ethnetic groups in our country. If you were ahead, you wouldn't be in Michigan trying to beg, plead and steal this election. You left your name on the ballot because you were posturing for this moment. You knew last year the votes in that state didn't matter. Americans are intelligent enough to see how you would run this country. Hillary rule......

Sylvia Mason, Las Vegas, NV (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:52 PM)

As a Michigan voter, this is patently unjust. The vote will not be accurate now, many democrats voted in the Republican Primary because they were told their vote would not countin the Democratic Primary. Conservative talk radio has put the idea out there for all Republicans than can stomach it to vote for Clinton to keep this contest going. If there is a 2nd vote, this will not be accurate. Levin and Grandholm among other top Democratic state leaders should be accountable for this injustice and I hope all Michigan voters remember this in future votes.

Jan, Dowagiac Michigan (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:52 PM)

The people of Florida and Michigan have not lost a single vote.

Note one.

They have not voted in a government election yet!

They have voted with their local Democrats club.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. But what was done was the opinion of people within a portion of the DNC was taken away, the opinion of who they would put up to the American people as a candidate. This is not a government election. It's a group, club, association, etc.

This is more like the local Mickey Mouse Club changing thier airtime without permission and beening penalized by Walt & Co.

BUT NOBODY HAS LOST A SINGLE VOTE.

YOU WON'T LOSE YOUR VOTE UNLESS IT IS TAKEN AWAY IN NOVEMBER 2008!

Don't forget to yank your chad...

RH Oregon (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:52 PM)

Patty, I read your comment.

HOLLY is a plant. HOLY is what you are not displaying in your comments.

Bob, ID (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:53 PM)

Holly Week. Must be some retroactive Christmas thing. Is it the week one MUST have the dead Christmas tree out on the curb and the lights off the house?

Obama/Biden '08

mad in Madtown (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:53 PM)

Reviewing the Florida and Michigan crisis, I suggest one go to http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/09/hillarys_brier_patch.html to get a head start on this. There was also an article somewere on the web exploring this issue, and it points out that Hillary intentionally stated that she'd abide by the DNC's rules and that Michigan "won't count for anything".
The point is that if Obama does not lead her in the popular vote, she won't have to concern herself with Michigan. But because of the present outcome -- that Obama is the likely nominee given his 150 plus delegate lead -- Hillary wants to not only overrule the DNC as its major candidate, but also put aside her previous stance and change her view in accordance with this current outcome so that she may attempt to win the election by painting Obama as the self-centered candidate standing in the way of voters.
In effect, Hillary seems to be employing the same strategy as Karl Rove. I am certain that if she was the likely nominee (and she was considered the inevitable candidate prior to the start of the primary seasoN) and led Obama in the count for the pledged delegates, she won't have to do anything about the situation in Michigan and avoid being labeled "hypocrite" for agreeing to abiding by the party's rules but then claiming the rules "disenfranchise" voters when the outcome of the primary voting season is not in her favor.
I hope her supporters will wise up and do their own analyses and support their arguments with facts, not hatemongering and fearmongering.

Ron Hussein Allen (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:53 PM)

They are all politicians so who wanted what is not important at this point. All Americans deserve to vote and have it count. Have we learned nothing from 2000? How short our memories are.

I was all for Obama last year but questioned his ability to be President early on and switched to Edwards then Clinton. She has my support all the way. I do my research on who I vote for...I just do not listen to the media. I believe that Obama is just all talk...his supporters see him through rose colored glasses. "The best speech ever" I have heard people say. Are they insane? Do they not get it? He was saving his a** like every other politician would do. He was just taking the focus off of the real issues. What experience does he bring to the table? What has he actually DONE? Why did he not make the race speech to his Pastor of 20 years?

If Hillary does not win the nomination, I will have no choice but to vote for McCain. He should pack his bags...it is so obvious that the Democratic Party is going to fall apart. They will not even let all of the votes count! It would have been paid for with private funds! Thanks Howard Dean...for the first time I will vote a Republican into the White House.

Yet to Vote in Raleigh (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:54 PM)

I think that classic Clinton pun was when she said that it was not her fault that the other canidates took their names off. I felt like I was watching a spoiled child who was trying to defend herself with something blatanly unfair. For an educated woman she sure has looked dumb on this one. Let's get down to the running of the country and facing the issues that need to be faced. Is there not anyone who is concerned about the economy or the war of about the misuse of Nafta. Also let's see those income tax reforms. The Clinton's have always changed the subject to get us to forget about the important issues that face America.

karen Bourland Overland Park Ks (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:54 PM)

I really don't know what to say...I really believe that she has gone off her rocker. I can't believe she looks so UNpresidential.

I'm fine with whatever Barack decides to do on this. As a Barack supporter, I'm curious to know what Michigan voters really think about this...it seems one could support a fair primary (to me that would be letting anyone willing to register under the current Michigan rules being allowed to vote).

She looks increasingly desparate and unlike what Bill Clinton said, she is not wearing well.

The callers on Air America are pointing out all her temper tantrums. It is hysterical (I hadn't quite thought of it that way).

Obama, calm under fire
Clinton, has a temper tantrum when things don't go her way.

Has it really come to this?

Lisa, New Britain, CT (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:55 PM)

So now Obama is "unAmerican" because the state party can't come up with something legal and legitimate?

This coming from the same person who claims the ability to separate significant states from insignificant ones based on what they can do for her?

Out of my sense of moral duty, I will be one of the 20% of Democrats not voting in November if Hillary Clinton is our nominee. I realize politicians split hairs a lot, but she has resorted to blatant lies and deception to win. Who is she really doing this for? My money is not on the American people.

CitizenJ (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:56 PM)

Hillary Clinton's utter hypocrisy regarding Michigan is appalling. Whatever happened to her statement a few months ago that Florida and Michigan were non-contests ? Reading some of the blogs here, it is quite clear that many people don't really care for the facts at all. It's sad.

Opinion, Winnipeg, Canada (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:56 PM)

Wow. Lots of hate here folks.

I understand that people are enthusiastic in their support of one candidate or another, but come on! Democrats attacking Democrats? The "party of hope & change"? Rrrright.

(I'm looking at you patty,sd,ca)

I've got no love for Hillary, but I would never call her a name (racist?) for which I have no proof. If people think Barack Obama is a racist, let's see some proof of that.

http://thepajamapundit.com/

the Pajama Pundit (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:57 PM)

Quote from Patty:

"GREAT JOB AT INSULTING EVERY RELIGION DURING HOLLY WEEK. "
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Whew! Good thing this wasn't Holy week...then there'd really be a problem here...

Joe - STL (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:57 PM)

Clinton only wants a revote because she won the illegal election. If she was ahead right now, and Obama had won the illegal elections in Florida and Michigan, than she would not be pushing for a revote. She is something else. God help us if she ever becomes President of the United States. She cannot even run her own family.

Tom, Merced, CA (Sent Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:58 PM)

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