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More on those Clinton schedules...

Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:46 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Jim Popkin
Hillary Clinton's calendar entries are full of unexplained private meetings on key dates when she and President Clinton were fending off a variety of scandals, the newly released White House records show.

Take Jan. 21, 1998. That's the day when most Americans first learned, courtesy of the Washington Post, that President Clinton had had a relationship with Monica Lewinsky. Mrs. Clinton's calendar entry shows that she left the White House at 7:25 pm that evening and returned 25 minutes later. The National Archives, which released the 17,484 calendar pages today, has excised the reason for the brief trip and the names of any of the people whom Mrs. Clinton may have met. The Archives, working in consultation with President Clinton's representatives, cite privacy concerns in blacking out all details of the trip.

Dec. 22, 2000 also remains a bit of a mystery. That's the day when Mrs. Clinton and the President met in the White House with a New York rabbi who successfully lobbied President Clinton to commute the sentences of four Hassidic men who had been convicted of massive fraud and conspiracy. The commutations were extremely controversial at the time, and photos of the meeting exist. And yet, there's no mention of it in Mrs. Clinton's daily log. The calendar simply lists four separate "private meetings" in the Map Room that day, with no names attached.

On Jan. 4, 1996, the calendars also record four "private" meetings that the First Lady held with her chief of staff, Maggie Williams, and undisclosed others. That's the same day that one of the First Lady's aides discovered a stack of Mrs. Clinton's law-firm billing records in the private quarters of the White House. Whitewater investigators had been searching for the subpoenaed documents for months. 

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Well, these are doctored versions of her schedules. I'd beleive that as a public official (wife of the leader of the nation), all perinent records should be released, with SSNs and other confidential details erased out. But the names of the people and all other details should have been released to help guide voters in their effort to elect a creditible and efficient leader.
What, she is not accounted for 25 minutes in 1998? WOW! Give it up for the Associated Press investigators for catching that!
Are these the same reporters who were sleeping when Bush/Cheney came up with all kinds of stories for going into the war with Iraq in 03? Hm...selective investigation I suppose. It's ok, no one said life was fair.
<sigh>

I hope I'm not the only one that doesn't miss the Clinton years!

I gotta vote with my heart AND my head.  Clinton just isn't the one.
You knew it would not be a full discloser... she is hiding a lot!

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Well I hope this goes to show Clinton supporters how underhanded and dirty they like to play the game. I mean Bill was a cool Prez, but he was also followed by scandal and deciet. Clinton's have an agenda. No one vountarily puts themsaelves in the hardest most scrutinized job in the world for another go round unles they know that the pay off is gonna be great. They are fighting so hard b/c they know what awaits them on the other side. And they saw how easily Bush manipulated the public and kept(stole) power for 8 years. They want a piece of thta action as well...... So no Obama is not perfect, but he does not seem power hungry and ready to destroy the party for his own welf serving greed. He seems genuine at times inexperinced, but a quick study and one who can actually learn from mistakes not just make them and say who cares I still have the power and America should still follow me.
Do you see why Obama is the only choice for Democrats?  This back-checking of appointment records, and the yet un-released Clinton 2000-2007 tax returns and Presidential Library donor lists will dominate the campaign until November if Clinton is the nominee.  Throw in the civil war that will ensue if the superdelegates steal the nomination for her, and it won't matter how many "senior moments" memory lapses McCain will have.  He will sit back and watch Hillary self-destruct.
She was always the presumptive nominee, going back to last summer.  How can the most politically astute couple in history lose it like they have done?  It goes back to character.  Keeping the same core values without regard for which way the political winds blow.  We have experienced dozens of logic-defying statements from the Clintons during this campaign, without any sense of what Hillary really stands for.
I'll take a novice, yet morally sound Obama any day.
As an Obama supporter, I do want to go on record of not needing info. on private matters that involved when she found out about her husband's affair.  I grieved for her that day and I continue to feel sympathy for her in that regard.  I'm sure it was a very stressful time for her (and I mean this genuinely).  I'm not going to pile onto that.

OTOH, I'm sure there are other things redacted for less innocent reasons and she opened the door on this by choosing to run as the "experience" candidate.

Woman for Obama 08
Jan. 21, 1998: Went to Baltimore to buy small concealable weapon. Met with lawyers about divorce, not feasible. Bad for planned presidential run in 2004 (maybe 2008). Swung by the Watergate Apartments. That little tart wasn't there. Went back the WH and threw ashtrays all night at Bill.
great investigative reporting--- Only on Msnbc will you find this witch hunt-  We should be talking about obama and his judgement and the fact that the black panthers endorsed him today and there is a link on Obama's web-site.  Cmon Hillary we love you!!!
well that hussy haveing private talks with her husband. The nerve. Obama's wife wouldnt do that often she cannt leave her resko house. hmmmmmmShe does clear his calendar and flies him home for valentines day.She says He will be home for pta's and recitals. Thats her price for her blessing to him to rin.On her terms she says. Hope he used mouth wash onplane she says its bad. Hope nothing bad happens on a pta day.
Oh SNAP!!!!!   MORE secrecy from Billary!!!!   Imagine that!!!!

Everyone ALREADY knows that Billary is a LIAR!!!

What is REALLY FUNNY is how all the HRC supporters are all soooooo upset about what Obama's Pastor said, and yet they seem perfectly FINE with the idea that their girl Billary is the BIGGEST LIAR in this entire election!!!!   Funny how they are soooo concerned about things that did not even come out of Obama's mouth, yet they don't give a fig about all the BOLD FACE LIES that keep coming out of their girls mouth!!!!!  

Nothing has changed in this election.  The people that support Billary will continue to be LIED to and not care, and the rest of us will continue to support Obama, the candidate with the most votes, most states and most delegates.  And we will watch him become the next President of the United States.

You Billary people must really be in denial.
Listen up and open your eyes Hillary followers and believers, isn't eight years in the white house enough for Bill and Hill? Tell your candidate not to be so selfish. Let's give Obama a chance to prove his capabilities. He's young and more energetic than the old Hill who desperately wants to be "commander in chief"
Obama himself on the other hand (who has no limits relating to national security) has not released all records of his activities in the state senate (he claims he cant find them or they were not kept), has just now released earmarks for 2005 and 2006 that reveal potential ethics violations, has just now released prior year tax returns with questions now arising about his home purchase, and has not released earmarks for 6 of the 8 years as state senator.  
Barrack Obama touts himself as the only presidential candidate not corrupted by Washington politics but his earmark records contradict that because he tried steering millions of federal dollars to his wife's employer and the company of a top campaign donor. Recently released earmarks reveal that he requested $1 million for the hospital that employs his wife Michelle and $8 million for a military contractor with a board member who has given hefty sums to his campaign. The $1 million was requested in 2006 to build a tower pavillion at the University of Chicago Hospitals, where Michelle Obama was vice president of community affairs. Michelle had already benefited from her husband's flourishing political career with a huge salary increase that went from $121,910 in 2004 before he was elected to the Senate to $316,962 in 2005 just after he took office. Obama requested the $8 million for weapons technology manufactured by a contractor with very close ties to a major fundraiser named Jams Crown, a billionaire who also serves on the company's board. Crown is also on Obama's national finance committee.
What sucks about this issue, for Obama, is that he loses his electibility and judgement arguments.  Plus now he looks like an everyday politician.
Soon Hillary will be up at 3am calling Barack Obama to ask him what its like to be President of the United States.
Hillary didn't want to do "things that, like, you might not think were safe." But the 1st Lady didn't mind Monica doing those things.
Let's hear more on  Paul vs. Clinton.

Obama '08
I like the double standard from the Clinton camp. They trash Obama for standing by his minister for talking trash but ignore Hillary standing by her man for boinking trash. How could she or her supporters possibly claim better judgment and trust? At least Obama wasn't sleeping with the offending party and hasn't sought to blame a "vast right wing conspiracy" for the Reverend's misdeeds.

When is Hillary going to denounce and repudiate Bill and announce that he no longer part of the campaign or her fake marriage for that matter!
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When I heard these documents would be released.  I was very elated.

When I heard they would be released by he Clinton Library.  I thought that they would be a very closed release.  

Bottom line, I did't think we would learn much.

Very disappointing to say the least.
What does 25 from 10 years ago have to do with the problems we face today?  This is ridiculous for MSNBC to complain about Sen. Clinton's schedule.  I bet NBC/MSNBC will go on and on for days about tidbits of time not documented - and continue to brush over Rev. Wrights racist rants!  Obama's character is what we should be talking about!  He is also associated with a Rev. Meeks who is almost as bad.  And that new pastor of Trinity is already talking trash.  This is a PATHETIC attempt to make up some more biased "totally in the tank for Obama" news against Sen. Clinton.

Here in North Carolina, people are waking up to Obama and they don't like what they see.

Please report the news and don't nit pick about 25 minutes from 10 years ago.  How silly!!!
Cannot figure out why the Clinton camp and supporters are so upset with the research of Clintons documents. Aren't they the ones who had boasted of her experience, aren't they the ones who attacked Obama for being on the Pew while the pastor was delivering the speeches? At least Obama was honest and did not try to fool us. We need a leader who is brave enough to face the truth and make USA greater.

Hilary camp knew well in advance and accepted Florida and Michigan will not count, why make such a fuss about it now.

Being a Republican, I doubt whether Hilary is fit. I want a change and my vote will go for Obama otherwise I will stick with McCain.
Tell Obama to release his records - and those of his wife - when he was in the Illinois state senate!  He probably wants to give a speech for hours telling us what he was doing since he believes that we are too dumb to figure things out or to read anything on our own.  

Obama really thinks that his preachy speeches are the solutions we need.  He also thinks that the can simply talk his way out of anything.
"Transparency?? (11,000 out of 2,000,000? redacted?)

Well, crap, Hillary, I MUST believe you 'cause I'm so dumb and saw it on some damn screen! You must thank heaven for idiots every night."

I really don't want to talk to HER, but my God, where are YOU! This is no game!

Yes! - she always gets clearer: the ultimate liar & distortionist who considers Americans to be nitwits (TV?)who will shallow anything... (oh, excuse me, Bill)

... or are so filled with their own hate and bigotry that she can merely provide to spigot. Come on, be honest, how many of them, on their own, came up with the  "spewing hatred for 20 years" idiocy?? Can we be real?

She is the revolting opposite end of the spectrum we need.  Welcome to the new Clinton American Constitution:

- guilt by association (or sleazy innuendo; and total absence of evidence, geared to those who hate - if that is you, sleep in it);

- it is unpatriotic to question the government to the full extent of the rights allowed by the Constitution's Bill of Rights  - but GIVE ME MY GUN! 'cause that's what I WANT (I had relatives die for the Constitution, as did you, and you should remember)

- The "old saw" 'the company you keep' (any bigotry anywhere here?) is as worthwhile as honest information. (Seems to me I heard somewhere 'by their fruits you will know them', not by the judging, not by bookcovers, not by anything that isn't true.) Please look at the fruit of Barack and Hillary.

Oh, I could go for pages.

In all HONESTY and DECENCY for the sake of this nation, if you DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT - SHUT UP.

How amazing a time that we have a Barack Obama to choose.
Voted for Billary twice.  Defended them with all my heart.  Endured  all the arguments and vitriol -- took all anti- Cintons to task...  Then, Marc Rich happened. That was "it" for me...and for my husband.  We were so loyal to Bill and Hillary.  But the Marc Rich pardon was our punch in the gut.  That was Billary telling us "screw you-- stupid lemmings.".  Older and much wiser now.  Yep, have the same advanced degrees we held in '92 -- just more years and wisdom.  We have the ability and humility to admit our mistakes.  Guess that's why Billary is so eager to pander to, and exploit, the "downscales" .  Sad.   The Clintons have no shame.    AND -- WHY is Chelsea working for a hedge fund (AVENUE) at this time in our history?   Doesn't that say all we need to know about the true Clintonian values?  
Monica Lewinsky is not the story today.  Waht is the story so far is that these 12000+ pages have yet to reveal that "vast foreign experience" Hillary has been claiming around the globe.  So far all the reporters have found are the normal functions of a First Lady meeting with a head of state for a social visit.  So much for the idea that Hillary was traveling the globe as a "Special secretary of State."  Never happened.  

No reports as yet she sat in on Cabinet meetings or foreign crisis meetings.  That is disappointing.  Not that she didn't attend any of these meetings but rather that she didn't.  I would love for Bill Clinton to have have had to answer what Hillary who did not have decurity clearence attended meetings.  

Now all week we have had the Rev. Wright stuuffed down our throats as to his relationship with Sen. Obama.  WEEL LOW AND BEHOLD Hillary's college thesis which her and Bill ordered locked up in the safe of the President of Welsley University because it allegedly contained words of criticiism about Sen. Patrick Moniyan and they did not want him offended is now released and found not to contain one word regarding Sen. Pat Moniyan.  So what was she hiding in the safe.  That her thesis praised the radical theology of Saul Alansky. That this Marxist was her hero and that she believs his theories concerning a Marxist future for this nation should be put into effect.

Well Sen. obama has given his speech regarding the Clinton attack on his church and his church's Pastor.  WELL IT IS NOW HILLARY'S TIME TO EXPALIN HER HERO'S SPEECHES AND QUOTES.  Time for her to tell Americans especially Middle Class Americans why this man was her political hero.

"...Saul Alinsky died in 1972. He was a Marxist grassroots organizer who spent much of his life organizing rent strikes and protesting conditions of the poor in Chicago in the 1930s. However, unlike Christian socialist and activist for the poor Dorothy Day, Alinsky's real claim to fame was as strategist for anti-establishment '60s radicals and revolutionaries.

Indeed, Alinsky wrote the rule book for '60s radicals like Bill and Hillary Clinton, George Miller and Nancy Pelosi. He considered Hillary Rodham to be one of his better students and asked her to join him in his efforts as an organizer of radical leftist causes. But Hillary had other fish to fry on her climb to national prominence.

Alinsky had a true genius for formulating tactical battle plans for the radical left. He wrote two books outlining his organizational principles and strategies: "Reveille for Radicals" (1946) and "Rules for Radicals" (1971).

Alinsky and his students Bill and hillary clinton and Nancy Pelosi rejected God and instead praised the accomplishments of the DEVIL.

"..."Rules for Radicals" begins with an unusual tribute: "From all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins – or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer."

The devil challenged authority and got his own kingdom, and that goes to the heart of what left is really about. ***That of course is to get power any way you can, including lying, cheating and stealing. The ultimate rule is that the ends justify the means."***


" Alinsky is interested in the middle class solely for its usefulness: "Our rebels have contemptuously rejected the values and the way of life of the middle class. They have stigmatized it as materialistic, decadent, bourgeois, degenerate, imperialistic, war-mongering, brutalized and corrupt. They are right; but we must begin from where we are if we are to build power for change, and the power and the people are in the middle class majority.
Saul Alinsky"

"Life is a corrupting process from the time a child learns to play his mother off against his father in the politics of when to go to bed; he who fears corruption fears life."
Saul Alinsky

"History is a relay of revolutions."
Saul Alinsky




Altogether, Alinsky provides eleven rules of the ethics of means and ends. They are morally relativistic:

"The practical revolutionary will understand Goethe's 'conscience is the virtue of observers and not of agents of action'; ***in action, one does not always enjoy the luxury of a decision that is consistent both with one's individual conscience and the good of mankind."***

"The second rule of the ethics of the means and ends is that the judgment of the ethics of means is dependent on the political position of those sitting in judgment." Alinsky elaborates his meaning on this point, saying that if you were a member of the underground Resistance, "... then you adopted the means of assassination, terror, property destruction, the bombing of tunnels and trains, kidnapping, and the willingness to sacrifice innocent hostages to the end of defeating the Nazi's. Those who opposed the Nazi's conquerors regarded the Resistance as a secret army of selfless, patriotic idealists ...." Rules for Radicals is therefore concerned with how to win. "...[I]n such a conflict, neither protagonist is concerned with any value except victory."

***"The third rule of the ethics of means and ends is that in war the ends justifies almost any means."***

"There can be no such thing as a successful traitor, for if one succeeds, he becomes a founding father."

Rules for Radicals teaches the organizer that he must give a moral appearance (as opposed to behaving morally): "All effective action requires the passport of morality."

The tenth rule of the ethics of means and ends states "that you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral arguments ... Moral rationalization is indispensable at all times of action whether to justify the selection or the use of ends or means."

Rules for Radicals provides the organizer with a tactical style for community organization ***that assumes an adversarial relationship between groups of people in which one either dominates or is dominated.***

"The first rule of power tactics is: power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."

"Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat."

"Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this. ***They can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."***

Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

"The threat is generally more terrifying than the thing itself."

"In a fight almost anything goes. It almost reaches the point where you stop to apologize if a chance blow lands above the belt."

***"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."***

One of the criteria for picking the target is the target's vulnerability ... the other important point in the choosing of a target is that it must be a personification, not something general and abstract."

"The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength."


Saul Alinsky urged the active and deliberate "conscious-raising" of people through the technique of "popular education." Popular education is a method by which an organizer leads people to a class-based interpretation of their grievances, and to accept the organizer's ***SYSTEMIC SOLUTIONS*** to address those grievances.

Rules for Radicals stresses organizational power-collecting: "The ego of the organizer is stronger and more monumental than the ego of the leader. The organizer is in a true sense reaching for the highest level for which a man can reach -- to create, to be a 'great creator', ***"TO PLAY GOD."*** Alinsky considered Hillary a terrific "organizer" and wanted her to become his protege. She declined. She had bigger fish to fry. ***She learned her lessons well. She and Bill have employed Alinsky's tactics probably better than anyone else.***


ARE THE VOTERS OF PENNSYLVANIA READING THIS.  ARE THEY GOOGLE SEARCHING HILARY'S THESIS?  ARE THEY RESEARCHING THIS MAN SAUL ALNSKY AND THAT THE CLINTON'S AND NANCY PEOLOSI ARE BASING THEIR ENTIRE POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY ON?  

THESE ANTI AMERICAN MAXISTS MUST BE STOPPED.  fEAL  FREE TO E-MAIL THIS TO ANYONE YOU KNOW THAT LIVES IN PENNSYLVANIA AND ASK THEM TO SEND IT TO 10 OF THEIR FELLOW VOTERS.  
Has Obama released detailed reports accounting for every minute and every name of people he talked to during his time in Chicago's community service, time served in Senate, and financial transactions (at least with Rezcko). Anyone know where his tax returns are posted?  Until Obama can prove his past was completely positive and legitimate we really can't nit pick on Hillary's records.  I'm trying to understand all the praise for Obama can anyone blog about a website, etc that lists his actual accomplishments or specific reasons why he can successfully lead our country to a better future (not just want "Change").  I know he is an eloquent speaker, and I don't deny he appears to be very intelligent and ambitious.  However, I also see just another shady politician who knows how to side step issues, make poor judgements,   contradict himself, and do what he needs to for convenient political gain - and still come across as Mr. Wonderful
Another witch hunt!!!! This time by the`same press that has given Osama a free pass. It is Insulting to the American people to say the least.  Now Mr. News
Director where is the calendar for Osama meetings with
terrorists friend and Renzko, and Larry Sinclair and
his Mentor and this other pastor today?  what about his trips abroad to terror sponsored countries,  NBC
MSNBC CNN and others operating licenses should be
pulled and yours voices silenced. I have an assignment for you, go to the Trinity Church records and tell us how many times Osama sat there cheering to
the hate spilled by Mr. Wright. This will be A CHANGE
WE CAN BELIEVE IN

funny obama supporters are the complete opposite of what he is suppose to be. do you think i could vote for someone who cant even buy a house he can afford..anyone looks at that house knows its a yard not a lot. who do you think maintains it? and if you think his speech made rev wright go away...check the polls. and wait for more of crazy uncle's speeches to come out.
"We should be talking about obama and his judgement and the fact that the black panthers endorsed him today and there is a link on Obama's web-site." -- Kevin,fl

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No, we shouldn't be talking about something that's non-existent.  Obviously you have absolutely no idea how a Social Networking Website works.  First of all, it wasn't a link.  You're talking as if he linked to some radical website.  Just like Myspace or Facebook, ANYone can set up their own "page" on a SN site.  Obama happens to have thousands of pages on his Website.  The page you're (mistakenly) talking about was REMOVED as quickly as possible.  So... end of story.  Stop trying to stir things up and continue to fan the flames.  
I THINK THAT MRS.CLINTON IS THE BEST ONE FOR THE JOB
AND I THINK SHE WILL MAKE A VERY GOOD PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A AND IM SORRY BUT SOME OF YOU PEOPLE JUST NEVER LET ANYTHING GO THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST THEY HAVE TO BRING IT UP ALL THE TIME AND IT IS GETTING OLD LEAVE IT GO CAUSE IM SICK OF PEOPLE PUTTING HER DOWN BECASE SHE IS DOING SOMETHING GOOD FOR ALL OF US AND I WISH HER ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD SHE IS A GREAT PERSON TO ME IN MY EYES AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY FOR ME THANK YOU AND IM PRAYING FOR YOU HILLARY YOUR FREIND FAYE
On the surface, I questioned why the media was focusing in on the fact that Hillary was in the WH during these encounters, and she was well aware of all the other sexual encounters her husband was having... in the White House... on Government property... while conducting Government business, yet she lied about it, and even denied that these encounters took place.  And that the rape charges against her husband was just some sort of conspiracy.    So, yeah.. we already knew all this stuff.  

But then I saw this story from a different perspective.  No matter how much her husband hurt her, no matter how much he would look straight into the camera and tell the American people "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," no matter how much he disgraced the Oval Office, she could not "disown, denounce, and reject" him, or his actions.  She could not believe the other sexual harassment claims from other women.  After all, Bill is her husband, a member of her family, so she has to stand by him.  How could she possibly disown him, regardless of the harm he caused her, or regardless of how much he lied to the American people, or regardless of how shaddy things he may have done.  She could not, would not, disown, denounce, and reject him.  
Kevin from Florida, who cares. The next rant will be Angela Davis is stumping for Obama. What is she 70 years old now. Give it a rest. The right wing conservative rant is tired, worn out and just plain cowardly sounding.
Yo Pennsylvania, Tomorrow is the deadline to have your voter registrations postmarked for submission!!!!!! Lets get out there and finish hillary off so I don't have to see one more picture of the lies coming out of her mouth when I open MSNBC
Unless you want four more years of corruption, lies, troops getting killed, and rediculous gas prices. there is only one choice and that is OBAMA.
Please Hillary Supporters..... Remove your head from your a$$ and get on the bus.
Sorry but the Obama people are in denial. Mr. Obama is slick enough to be George Bush with a tan. Who wants B.O. for  president.  How could Mr. Obama, who was raised by his Euro-American mother and grandparents (who he says he loved) sit in that church for twenty years listening to that racist crap. He shows off the pictures of his African grandmother that he probaly met once and keeps the people who raised him in the closet.  His grandmother couldn't have been that bad since he chose to live with them instead of going with his mother to help people in Indonesia. Wake up he is not the great black hope he's just an oportunist.
The release of the first lady's schedule is not a very meaningful move because we already know that due to confidentiality, many spots would be blocked.  So, we actually would not know whom Hillary called in time of crisis.  We also would not know how deals were being arranged because we only see "Private Meeting" shown.  What's the point of those document.  Neverthelss, it shed some light on how it might quality her as commander in chief.
IS THIS WHAT YOU LECHERS HAVE BEEN CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO SEE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS, IF SENATOR CLINTON WAS HOME WHEN BILL WAS FOOLING AROUND.  LET'S SEE, I THINK MY GRANDSONS WOULD SAY, "YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF SICK -----!  LET IT ALONE! WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO GLOAT OVER SOMEONE'S MISERY?  EVERYDAY I BECOME MORE DISGUSTED WITH THE NEWS MEDIA. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU.  THERE IS SUCH A THING AS KARMA....

BARACK OBAMA MAKES A CAREER ENDING MISTAKE!
I have an example for you. It's a little drawn out, but hear me out because it makes sense.
When I was in the military there was a list the commander would keep on the board where everyone could see(and there was much command-to-soldier speak of abiding by it), it said "OFF LIMITS AREAS". These were areas that soldiers were legally prohibited by the military to go(and in most cases, for the protection of the soldier).

Included on that "OFF LIMITS AREAS" list was anyplace that publicly (or even to a large congregation behind closed doors) displayed or preached any type of racially motivated extremism and/or any other kind of "audacious" and over the top style of hate breeding.

Now I'm quite positive that our military units very very quickly added Obama's Church to their "OFF LIMITS AREAS" lists, after the other day when the news came out about Pastor Wright and how he not only "G*d D*med America" to hell, but also blamed the USA for 9/11, and so completely slandered(with utter racism), the former First Lady(and 2 term senator, and Candidate for President) of these United States of America.

Note: The Commander in Chief of the Military is the President, and the President sets very high standards for the conduct of our Armed Forces.

Now hear this: American citizens rightfully enjoy the freedoms of our Constitution(provided by the many hundreds of thousands of Americans who paid the ultimate price(as in death)fighting for their country's freedom), and are given the right to speak freely, and to seek the religious counsel of whatever institution they believe in, and this is a TOTALLY AWESOME founding principle for the USA.

But for a person who seeks to be the #1 Patriot of the land, the person who is trying to become the Commander in Chief and President, this person(family actually) simply has to hold the highest standard of Unity and respect for all people in the land. In other words, associating with an extremist organization for 20 years, completely disqualifies a person from being the President, and rightfully so I might add.

Obama has failed the test of ultimate loyalty to America(by dedicating 20 years to a hate breeder), and therefore cannot become the #1 Patriot of America. Think about it, it's impossible.

Also, Obama's timing for making this colossal mistake could not be worse, as if he were to be selected for the Primary, he would be up against a person that is a highly decorated American War Hero and 5&1/2 year POW (Senator John McCain(since 1987)) (see his wikipedia entry for Military Accomplishments here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#Militar y). Democrats everywhere are gonna realize this sooner or later, and when they do, they will realize that Obama cannot win. If Democrats get on the right track, and select Hillary as the Democratic Candidate, she at least may have a chance against McCain.

What makes me so embroiled with my comments is that the nation has vested SO MUCH into Obama and he has completely and utterly failed us. It's a shame to all of those who are credible.
This is old news- Obama lied when he said day one he never was in church to hear the hate talk then in his speech said he was sitting in a pew and witness sermons that expressed hate.  He also lied when he said no one in his campaign talked to the Canadians.  Boy you Obamians have a short memory.  Talk about "good Judgement".
Americans already understood that she was overstating those 'day one' qualifications and her role.

I think that she was an honorable First Lady, however neither she nor Obama, nor any other president for that matter-- to include McCain have any actual on-hands Foreign policy experience that would qualify them as "day one" ready. Such is akin to a man or a woman saying they would be great parents 'day one' because they had experience being a child. The only qualifier of who would possibly be the best 'day one' is to look at foreign policy judgement. With regards to the last piece of major foreign policy the facts clearly attest to Obama being the only of the three remaining candidates that had the better judgement. Clinton and McCain clearly are operating under our Old School politics of Ego;that the USA can do what it wants,when it wants. Evidence clearly shows that we as a young country underestimated a civilization called Iraq, and needlessly too many innocent people on both sides are dying, and too we have made the situation worse.
Well, Well, Well, we finally know the truth about NAFTA. At last count 60,000 people don't have jobs and yet Hillary swears that she did not lobby for NAFTA to be approved. Just one more of a series of lies that are being told by the Clinton Campaign.

I hope all you jobless americans can read the truth and realize that there have been many tricks played by the Clinton. Oh. One more question, when were there so many deleted paragraphs in her Whitehouse papers. Also, when Ken Starr wanted to ask her questions about her billing practices. She couldn't find the papers. Yet, an aide found a group of billing invoices in the Clinton private quarters of the Whitehouse.
Well, Well, Well, we finally know the truth about NAFTA. At last count 60,000 people don't have jobs and yet Hillary swears that she did not lobby for NAFTA to be approved. Just one more of a series of lies that are being told by the Clinton Campaign.

I hope all you jobless americans can read the truth and realize that there have been many tricks played by the Clinton. Oh. One more question, when were there so many deleted paragraphs in her Whitehouse papers. Also, when Ken Starr wanted to ask her questions about her billing practices. She couldn't find the papers. Yet, an aide found a group of billing invoices in the Clinton private quarters of the Whitehouse.
All names were on the Ballot in Florida those should count they way they were voted upon. In Michigan there Were some Candidate who chose to remove there names off the ballot and did so on there own accord. Hillary wisely did not. The Candidate also signed a rule that stated they would not campaign in the State. Hillary did not but the others did but putting out an effort to try and embrass Hillary they Illegally Campaigned the "NONE OF THE ABOVE" this was in clear violation of the rules and should count the way they voted. Regardless Hillary is the only candidate not wanting these States and there voters to not be disenfranchised, If they did make these state revote it should be in the same format they always do which is a "Primary" and I think Both states knowing that Obama camp doesn't want them to count even removing his name as a punishment of the state he should lose again royally.
Obama needs to begin to tell the amercian people about his relationship with William Ayers for starters...They have had dinner togethyer at each others houses, and Obams campaign says they are 'friendly'...this is the same guy who is the founder of the Weather Underground,,,which has Bombed the Pentagon, and said recently they wish they woudl have bombed more here in the US

.....then about his Pastor OF 20 YEARS, Jeremiah Wright trip to Libya with Momar Kodafi, Baracks Church giving a racist like Farrahkhan a lifetime acheivement award for excellence when Farahkhann has spewed White HATE SPEECH, anti semitic speeches about the jewish gutter religion.....

Pastor Jermeiah Wright is quoted as saying Barack's Jewish support will dry up as soon as the mainstream media and population becomes aware of Dr Wrights summit with Farahkhan & Kodafi.....

you dont think GOP is going to make this a media frenzy?
Why doesn't NBC just officially endorse Obama?  At least there would be an explanation for the cheerleading for one candidate, and the horrifyingly bad journalism that pours over Mrs Clinton's schedules, but says virtually nothing about Rezco, and Rev Wright.  Elevating a politcal speech to history.
Again, good speech, but self serving, conflicted rationalization.
Hillary has 25 minute missing its a national crissi come on check this out.
I believe since Barrack based his book his senate run and his run for president on this Pastor who is racist as can be, that it goes to character and decision making on behalf of Barrack the proves he should never be President. Barrack stated this guy is like an uncle to him and he looks up to him in the highest regards, If this had been outta much earlier when the press was completely in the tank for Obama treating him with kids gloves and Demonizing Hillary at every turn. Had the done there job and went after Barrack then like they did Clinton these facts and the video would have come out much sooner. I cant see why anyone would support Barrack he is racist and only denies remarks made by his pastor because he wants to save his political status. He is trying only now to distance himself from these comments only and not the pastor who he still calls someone "Who is like a close Uncle". The cats outta the Bag Barrack you are a racist and you cant hide it or try to make it go away by saying your being treated unfairly. Why don't you admit your ties to Farrakhan and get it all out in the open once and for all.
The link to this so called Pastor is what he wrote his book and what he Ran for the senate and for president on. The guys judgment for over 20 years was oiss poor as you can see and i believe obama to be a racist that knew exactly what was being preached about and he never complained then. Obonga only tried to distance himself when he knew it was going to be looked at by the media. This should have been a huge story back before Super Tuesday Hillary would have won all states by a wide margin.
The press should have hit him constantly with this as they should from here on out because this goes straight to judgment of a Presidential candidate. Barrack very well may be the devil trying to hide in sheep clothes. He is only now finally being looked at as a possible racist candidate and you can see him trying to distance himself from it. When asked direct question though pulling no punches since he has already been treated with the biggest set of kids gloves ever in the political arena. You can tell he gets flustered and angry and wants to lash out at the interviewers. They should ask him Questions about his patriotism as well as his direct questions about being a racist who knew and associated himself with other racist. I bet next they will find that OBonga and Barrack being from the same city aren't that unknown to each other the very well might be the best of racist buddies.
I really hate to break this to you folks, but if Obama is the nominee he will lose in November.  The 527s will run Jeremiah Wright clips in every white rural county in America, and you know what will happen.  Now, because of his stubbornness, MI will not get a re-vote, and neither will Florida.  If you think either of those states will back Obama you are high. He won't win Ohio or PA either.  What's that spell?  Say it with me: President John McCain.

If you democrats want to have any hope of winning the White House you need to get real and back Hillary Clinton.  As much as you Obamamites may hate her, she at least still has a shot at winning in November.  If you think a speech is going to magically heal the racial divide in this country, if you think that a speech is going to make people forget that when confronted with the Wright issue Obama's first reaction was to lie and cover up, then again you are high.

If you think the super delegates aren't having swiftboat flashbacks when they look at those Wright clips on YouTube, you're high.  They know he can't win.  The Republicans know he can't win.  And any Democrat who is loyal to their party, and the ultimate goal of regaining the White House, knows he can't win.  The super delegates are going to have to do their job and vote for Hillary.  If not then they are in effect going to nominate the less electable candidate by affirmative action (David Gregory, Chuck Todd, Joe Scarborough, et al have already been saying the super delegates are nervous about denying the black candidate the nomination), and McCain will win.

And why is all this happening?  Because like I've been telling you idiots over and over; Barack Obama is a duplicitous lying fraud politician just like all the rest.  If you hadn't been so easily duped by his image and speeches we wouldn't be in this mess.

Fortunately it's not too late.  Clinton will win PA, WV, IN, and if the Edwards endorsement rumor is true (he knows Obama can't win either) then she may have a good showing in NC, and possibly win.  The more votes and delegates she gets the more legitimate it will be when the super delegates back her (if they have the backbone to do what's best for the party).

If you Obamamites really want John McCain putting the next Supreme Court Justice on the bench (Stevens can't hold out forever; he's 89), not to mention all the other federal justices he'll be appointing so you lose more of your civil liberties (if that's possible) then by all means keep backing Obama.  But if you want to restore the Constitution, and move to energy independence you better support Hillary.  She's our last shot, whether you like it or not.
Hillary bleeped out 25 minutes lets excute her it treason. You guys are fried obonga supporters and even if the had a tape of Obama saying he was the devil you guys would blinding follow like sheep.
The Obamarama is OVER.

In this nation, it's may "God Bless America". NEVER< NEVER< NEVER< is it "God Dam- America" as Obama's "mentor" "pastor" "like a family member" Jeremiah Wright has shouted.

This defiant refusal by Obama not to completely disassociate himself from the toxic "pastor" Wright, an avowed racist, anti-white, anti-American, anti-semitic, pro-Louis Farakaan, Nation of Islam supporter is a fatal mistake. It will never go away.

Obama proved himself a liar at least twice in the last couple of days, last Friday he admitted to the Chicago Tribune and Sun Times that he had lied about the amount of money he had taken from Rezko, his other problem friend in Chicago, currently under criminal trial, and Obama lied all weekend about never having heard his "pastor" in church saying anything offensive, well, today he admitted that indeed he had been in his "church" and had heard offensive comments. The limited credibility that Obama had left is now gone.

Obama is unelectable.
Can we talk about issues of today now.. thank you.. By the way did she have enough fiber on 1-28-98 or what..
 
While Senator Obama's speech was very enlightening and educational on the aspect of race we see one very important issue pushed aside.  That is the issue of gender.  Race is a tremendously important issue that we see all around us; at work, in our schools, or in our communities.  Also, we see a great gender biased surrounding those same areas.  So many comments are stated over and over on the news, claiming to be racist comments which in turn destroy the sincerity of someone.  What we don't see played over and over are comments like, "The reason she's a U.S. Senator, the reason she's a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around. That's how she got to be senator from New York. We keep forgetting it. She didn't win there on her merit."   Statements like that are made day after day on television and it is not replayed on every news network or newspaper over and over again.  Barack Obama is an amazing individual for what he has overcome and the history he is making, but that should not take away from the tremendous individual we see in Hillary Clinton.  Senator Hillary Clinton is the first female to ever win a presidential primary, where Senator Barack Obama is not the first African American to do the same.  Senator Clinton was not a "Clinton" when she was the first student to speak at commencement exercises for Wellesley College.  She was not a "Clinton" when she was one of a few females attending Yale Law School.  She was not a "Clinton" when she served as staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children, nor was she a "Clinton" when she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C. advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.  Hillary and Bill Clinton became the "Clintons," because of there drive and intelligence.  We could go on and on to show why Hillary Clinton was a trailblazer, but our main focus should be on all females.  Females account for around 50% of the world's population, but yet account for around 2% of Fortune 500 CEOs.  Women make around 75 cents to the dollar of  their male counterparts.  Differences in gender are not only seen when it comes to the economy, but in every aspect of life.  In the beginning of the primary campaign the media focused more time on Senator Clinton's "cackle" and tears, then we did Senator Obama's legislative accomplishmnts or experience.    I hear more people openly say why they will not vote for Senator Clinton then those that say the same for Senator Obama and never are these reasons about experience.  Again, we could go on an on about the female disparities that exist in the world so we might want to think about following Senator Obama's race speech with a speech about gender.


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