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Clinton: scrutinizing that experience

Posted: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:09 AM by Mark Murray
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The Washington Post uses the release of Clinton's White House schedules to look at her experience claims. "On March 22, 1999, Hillary Rodham Clinton arrived at the Itihadiya Palace in Egypt for what her schedule said was a ‘courtesy call with President Mubarak.’ Aides blocked out 9 a.m. to 9:15 a.m. Then she embarked on visits to a mosque, museum, clinic, bazaar, youth center, groundwater project, university and the Temple of Luxor. Almost exactly nine years later to the day, Clinton's trip to Egypt offers a case study of her foreign policy role during her husband's presidency. While traveling across North Africa, she devoted little time to heads of state and negotiated no agreements, but instead met community leaders, explored local issues and culture, hit major tourist sites and gave speeches on women's rights and other topics important to her.”

“Whether that has made her ‘tested and ready’ to be president from the first day, as she now claims, is a burning issue on the campaign trail." More: "While Clinton's advertisements have boasted that she is best prepared for a 3 a.m. crisis phone call, the schedules contain no evidence that Clinton was at the table during major national security decisions. They do not list her as attending National Security Council meetings or joining briefings in the Situation Room. She did not have a national security clearance. And the documents make clear that at moments of major crisis, Clinton was often busy with her own agenda."

The Obama camp seized on the NAFTA campaigning Clinton did during her husband's push for the trade pact's passage in '93. The news was revealed in her White House schedules released on Wednesday.

The New York Times reports, "[T]his week, Mrs. Clinton’s electability argument has taken on a new dimension that for her and her advisers is both discomfiting and unpredictable, but also potentially helpful. Some Democrats are now looking at the racially incendiary and anti-American remarks of Mr. Obama’s longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., and wondering if that association could weaken Mr. Obama as a nominee. Clinton advisers have asked their allies not to talk openly about the issue, for fear it could create a voter backlash and alienate black Democrats. They also say Mr. Obama, of Illinois, is in enough trouble over Mr. Wright that they do not need to foment more — and, besides, cable television is keeping the issue alive."

More: "Despite the complications and risks of engaging on the issue, some allies of Mrs. Clinton said they were privately pushing the issue with key party members to lift her candidacy. And at least one prominent surrogate of hers has gone off message: Lanny Davis, a former Clinton White House lawyer, has publicly challenged Mr. Obama to answer questions about his views on racist speech and Mr. Wright."

Both Clintons have been barnstorming Indiana this week.

The Obama campaign released a photo of Rev. Wright and Bill Clinton. Why?  Here's the campaign back-and-forths on the photo... "Less than 48 hours after calling for a high-minded conversation on race, the Obama campaign is peddling photos of an occasion when President Clinton shook hands with Rev. Wright," a Clinton campaign spokesman said.

"To be clear, President Clinton took tens of thousands of photos during his eight years as president."

The Obama campaign shot back, accusing the Clinton team of pushing the Wright story to knock Obama's lead in the race to become the Democratic presidential nominee. "After their top surrogates pushed this storyline, and Senator Clinton's campaign outlined this as a central strategy in her plan to overturn the will of Democratic voters, I can see why they wouldn't want a photo out there that shows the kind of hypocrisy we've all come to expect from their campaign," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in an e-mail."

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I think this will, in time, show that her campaign has created exaggerations in her "experience".  She has leaned on this assertion far too much and now, if it ends up being the rug pulled out from below, it'll be hard to shift gears to another credential.  What she's really been talking about all along is her husbands experience, and we already know way too much about his experiences.  She needs to go head-to-head with Obama on what her EXPERIENCES really are.  Apples to apples!
Experience matters!!  Hillary has it.  Obama doesn't.
The Rev. Wright's comments are very disturbing to me. I can't believe that Obama was a member of a church that spewed such venom for 20 years.  Maybe that explains some of Michelle Obama's anti-patriotic comments.  I think that we cannot take a chance on Obama.  There is so much about him that we do not know.  He is a book of about 2 chapters.  

Should Obama get the nomination, I would not vote for him.  I feel that we need a democrat in the white house in the worst way but Obama is just not it.  
Ahhh, MORE truth comes out.    Hilary Clintons "Experience" a lie, IMAGINE THAT!!!!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!



Yet she continues to fool soooooooo many of you!!!!



FOOLS!!!!!!


And now Bill RIchardson endorses Obama!  

Sorry Billary, guess even your friends think Obama will be BETTER president!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Obama 08
hahaha The Obama camp jumped on NFTA  These people are so in the past it is unbelievable. These are the change people .They are so mired. Obama blasts Pres. Clinton than tries to get as many of his old supporters to blast Hillary but he isnt going to play politics. Hillary has some long trusted people but also new help as she forges ahead. Mired and muck is the new phrase for Obamians.Nafta has worked for some Americans which Obama forgets.Hillary will review and change what has to be done. He is so  quadmired in past he does no talking about the now and onward . So not with it.Obama has NAFTA change in mouth but as his advisor told Canada  not to listen only words. How pitiful.
Obama will say and do anything to get elected

WOW!
Not like Obama and his followers goign spastic over a pic. I thought this was rich. They are not even looking at each other and Pres. Clinton looks like he is  pointing out the door. HAHAHA. I hope they show it a hundred times.He is so not ready. It looks like a kindergarten stunt  look look look what I got. OMG these people get on here say Hillary will say and do anything. A pic comes out they knew wasnt from her and they rant .Soooooo presidential.He has turned into quite the laugh.Pastor James David Manney,phd isnt your average black pastor I guess. He sure rants about Obama and how he pimps people.www.ATLAH.org
Finally.  Journalists have been as unprofessional on this one as they were on questioning the whole run up to the war.  People have given her a complete pass on the "experience" question when in reality it's a huge question.
Why don't any commentators explore the probable strategy of wanting to portray Reverend Wright as a legitimate well respected mainstream religious figure, enough to have been invited to be part of a select group of prominent religious figures at the White House ? That seems the most likely explanation to me - along with the subtext that Wright was at the White House to hear Bill Clinton repent for Monica Lewinsky scandal - seems pretty obvious to me, why haven't any professionals mentioned this?
I'm at the point of feeling that even though HRC is running as the experience candidate, I no longer care about her experience because I'm judging how she is functioning, how she is behaving, now.  In the present-time.  The past is the past.  Clearly she got some decent world view experience as First Lady (although I doubt she got the same "tour" you and I would get if we went overseas and her experience would also be different than someone who has actually spent significant time or lived in different areas of the world).  But also as clearly, she has inflated prior experience.

But I doubt that any of this matters to me.  I would never vote for ANYONE who decides that they are bigger than the Party, for ANYONE who decides that they have to win at any costs, for ANYONE who doesn't understand the role of rules in our society, for ANYONE who feels that they are a legitimate candidate if they win by cheating or stealing or buying off an election.  I will never vote for anyone who does this and I would never vote for Clinton.  It reflects, too much, on how she is likely to lead and I want no part of it.

So continue to talk about her experience, some may think its germane...I, however, do not.

Obama for President 08
lets see met with Egypian Pres.Mubarak,went to Mosque,clinic etc.How many times has Obama been to a Mosque? He seems very quiet about that?It of course was Barry Obama than.before going for the black voters.I resent Obama so much for the racial devide he is doing. He is putting us decades back, WHY  for his own sence of power.Maybe not all his fault.His wife ,pastor,farrakhan,black panthers all tell him he is the new God maybe he believes it.What happens when all find out he isnt??I believe God still holds this country in his hand and pray he will see us through this too. NO Obama you are not my god .
Barrak is a once in a life time opportunity for us to make things right. With either Clinton or McCain, we will just be extending the current rut that started back in 1988. I am not sure America can afford another 4 years of that.
I forgot to add, that I consider to be the point of the Bill Clinton pastor picture to be that Pastor Wright, in general, was considered a pastor leader in the faith community (and maybe that is not in dispute at all), such that he was even placed in a faith ceremony during the Bill Clinton years.

I can disavow his remarks but still understand that he was considered a leader in the pastor community for all sorts of reasons.  To me, that is the point of the picture.

Obama 08
I think all that is going on right now with Rev. Wright is working to advantage Hillary.  The media is giving her a free pass on this experience issue.  Her records clearly indicate not only that she has no real experience, but also that she obfuscating the truth with her creating editing of the records we are allowed to see.  This is just further evidence that Hillary is just more politics as usual.  I've had more than enough of that over the course of the last 16 years.  It's time for this country to move into the 21st century.  There is only one candidate cabable, Barack Obama, capable of doing that.  I challenge the media to give Hillary's records the same deserved coverage they felt the Rev. Wright situation deserved.
Clinton campaign has a point. The media and cable television is keeping the Wright story alive and trying to squeeze every last drop out of it seemingly. Its disturbing that we have all of these problems in the world going on, a endoresement by Richardson, and a breach of Obama's passport, yet the lead story on Msnbc and topic 3 hours of conversation on Morning Joe was about race and the desperate attempt to make the phrase "typical white person" a contraversy.
John McCain has only one really logical choice for VP and that is Mitt Romney...the man who in all reality should be the Presidential nominee, but thanks to the Leftist Media enough naive "Republican" voters were "told" to support McCain while they trashed Romney.

McCain is struggling to raise money because REAL Republicans have the money and they ain't a gonna give to him unless he gives them something back.  And that something is VP Mitt Romney!

So, RINO Johnny, take THAT!  You may think YOU won the nomination, but you didn't.  And don't even think about your RINO buddy, FL Gov. Charlie Crist as VP who is the ONLY reason you won the Florida primary.  He's as bad as you are when it comes to supporting the "Global Warming" hoax/myth and other liberal issues.


Flight attendents traveled to more countries than Hillary, does that mean they have more overseas experience?

Hillary is history. That woman lies more than her impeached husband.
46% of Hillary Clinton's 35 years of experience has been in a ceremonial position, First Lady of the US and First Lady of Arkansas. I bet she can bake cookies now.
I think its shameful for Hilary to try to use the Wright comments for political gain. Race is a issue that is far beyond politics. I'm sad to see that she and her husband, as advocates of AA's throughout their white house tenure, aren't praising and/or even acknowledging his courageous speech.

It's textbook politics, and on that front Obama will probably lose. And so will Americans.
What a load of . . . You know as well as I and the rest of the intelligent American public, that the superdelegates, most of them, are trying desparately to pull strings for the Clintons--they seem to be pulling you string as little as well MSNBC--

Most of the Supers, the ones still on the fence are on the fence because of only one reason--the owe the Clintons something. There can be no other reason.  The American public is not stupid.  They know the Clinton Surregate Supers are eagerly looking for somehting else to smear the best MAN in politics.  Otherwise, the would have gotten of the fence long ago.  For Hillary to win the Presidency on a smear, and an indirect on at that, is simply bad buisness.  Americans, my brothers and sisters, please look inside your heart and think about what you opinion is based on.

If it is based on integrity, honesty, hard work, and loyalty--then you have to vote Obama.

If it is based on flip-flopery, lies(ie. NAFTA), distorting the truth(everything Hillary says), arm-twisting, and non-moral behavior (monica)then go ahead, feel good about yourself--vote Clinton--you can always say she is a worse person than you.

But if you want a leader, who leads by example, one who will not "throw you under the bus" if times are tought, one who will engage honestly, and truthfully, one who has accomplished more in the senate in 8 months than Hillary has in 8 years, one who believes in the mantra "family, God, Country" like soldiers do, then one must vote their concious.  Perhaps as we get close to Easter, it is time

TO COME TO JESUS --for the truth will set you free
hey guys that was not just a photo BTW.  He was invited to the "White House" not a fund raiser.  Aren't invitees vetted prior to or a part of getting a security clearence?  I am not saying there was anything wrong with inviting him that is the point.  If he was the radical that the MSM is trying to make him out to be...wouldn't that have been discovered and wouldn't they have kept the President away from him politically?  Maybe just maybe he doesn't preach this way all the time as Obama says.  Secondly the papers and the internet are full of stories about "White' clergy coming forward talking about and defending their history with Rev Wright and the fact that they having known him for year has never seen or heard any of this kind of language...why are you guys not covering any of this?
Richardson has it right! He pondered his ties to the Clinton's and what Barack would bring to not just the US, but the world. He nailed it! I sincerely hope Edwards, and Biden (experience xtraordinaire) will get on board, put this battle to an end and get on  with electing THE BIG "O" president.
Doesn't Hillary know that padding your resume is grounds for termination? She also was not very truthful on the line in her resume regarding NAFTA.
Bad enough people want to put a woman with a history of lying and cheating in the White House, they also want a convicted felon as well (her husband).

The logs show Hillary left the residense at 7:25 pm and returned at 7:50.  Sounds like the missing 18 minute nixon tapes.  Wonder what she saw when she went downstairs?

At least you can say that Bill had sex while Hillary was in the White House LOL
Chuck, The point of the Clinton picture with Rev. Wright, was to demonstrate that WRIGHT WAS A RESPECTED MEMBER OF THE CLERGY, NOT JUST SOME LOONEY EXTREMIST WHO WAS OSTRACIZED by the democratic community.
SO HILLARY CLAIMS EXPERIENCE JUST FOR BEING THERE....HMMM.  SO WHAT EXPERIENCE SHOULD SHE CLAIM WHEN SHE WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN MONICA WAS ENTERTAINING BILL?
Hillary Clinton is qualified to give a White House tour. That is what we know. Everything else is based on her word, which she has shown is not worth much.

Hillary Clinton: Her Words, Someone Else's Solutions.
This is exactly why the HRC camp was reluctant to release these records.  Let's see what skeletons come out when her tax records are finally released.

Obama O-Eight
There is so much more news then the old, put to rest, asked, answered, asked again, answered again, issue of Wright. I stopped looking at CNN because it's so over interpretated. The media seems to want to beat this in the heads of people.  We got it already. We all have formed what ever opinion we individually have by now. It's not the front news anymore.  Is there nothing else to talk about?  What about these 11,000 pages of Sen. Clinton's days in the Whitehouse.  Can we find out any information about her experience that would make her the best Commander and Chief?  I am perhaps mor disappointed in the press right now on a variety of issues that seem to not report the news (to inform the people) but is more trying to force people to think a different way.  Not only does Washington need to change but also our news media.  Let's make it about the people.  Afterall we are the ones that count!!!  We don't need news casters slants--we really need facts.
I know I do not want someone I can't trust to push the right button, pick the right church, buy a house with a slumlord (When I knew) he was already in trouble), vote present over 120 times, pays off supperdelegates, has pac money funneled in samller amounts (Edwards stated during their last debate), doesn't care about 30% interest rates, first vote to confirm Condi Rice, claims he can cross over (proof in both senates he doesn't),voted over, and over to fund the war, campaigned for Joe Lieberman instead of Anti-War Lemont, wife feels proud for the first time (Not a good statement about Obama), I could go on and on.
This man is a fake and can not be trusted that is way
45% of the core democrats will leave this party if he is the nominee.
The picture with Clinton and Wright so F---ing what he has posed (key Word) with many of losers. He wasn't his ANTI-AMERICAN reverend for 20 years.
YOU ONLY MAKE YOURSELF LOOK STUPID TRYING TO COMPARE THE TWO SINCE OBAMA IS RUN I THINK AGAINST STATUS QUO
(BY LOOKS OF WHO IS BACKING IM I THINK HE'S THE STATUS QUO)
Most new presidents do not have much foreign policy experience, but Hillary has more that Obama.

1.  She has traveled to more foreign countries and talked to more foreign leaders.

2.  She was married to a president and discussed foreign policy with him.

3.  She lived in the White House for 8 years and is comfortable meeting and talking with foreign leaders.

Therefore, she does have MORE foreign policy experience than Obama.
Hillary's claims of foreign policy expertise are patently ridiculous -- she went around the world on typical photo ops, with no substance.  If her argument were valid, then Dan Quayle (who spent seemingly 90% of his VP time on such trips) should be the head of the UN!

Second, her 'national security' experience claim is also dubious.  Since SHE DID NOT HAVE SECURITY CLEARANCE as First Lady, it would have been illegal for her to have sensitive national security information shared with her at that time!  So, if she claims any of that time as giving her national security 'experience,' she is tacitly admitting she violated the law!!

What a crock!


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