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McCain: 'We’re succeeding'

Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:29 AM by Domenico Montanaro

Returning from his eighth trip to Iraq, McCain didn't back down on his promise to see the war through despite yesterday's tragic milestone of 4,000 deaths. “We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says. I've seen the facts on the ground," the Arizona senator insisted a day after a roadside bomb in Baghdad killed four U.S. soldiers and rockets pounded the U.S.-protected Green Zone there, and a wave of attacks left at least 61 Iraqis dead nationwide. The events transpired as bin Laden called on the people of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia to ‘help in support of their mujahedeen brothers in Iraq, which is the greatest opportunity and the biggest task.’”

Did McCain really say he agrees with Osama bin Laden? On the day the 4,000th American troop was killed in Iraq, McCain said, per NBC/NJ’s Adam Aigner-Treworgy, "General Petraeus is correct when he says that the central battleground in the struggle against Al Qaeda is Iraq, and Osama bin Laden just confirmed that again with his comments last week," referring to a recent audio recording of bin Laden calling for support of the Mujahadeen in Iraq. 

McCain told reporters after his town hall, "Gen. Petraeus and I and Osama bin Laden are in agreement. It is hard to understand why Senator Clinton and Senator Obama do not understand that [Iraq is the central battleground]. I don't know if it is naiveté or what the problem is but it's obvious that they're dead wrong, and they're wrong when they say that we should leave Iraq immediately… and it's time that they acknowledge that the surge is succeeding and the benefits of success in Iraq will spread throughout the entire Middle East."

The al Qaeda-Iraq argument is a tack the RNC is also taking up against Clinton and Obama, as they wrote in one recent document e-mailed to media, entitled: “While Bin Laden Urges Followers To Fight In Iraq, Clinton And Obama Deny That It Is A Key Terrorist Battleground.”

The DNC has been going after McCain on Iraq and his offhanded “100 years” comment, which is almost assuredly going to end up in ads.

Also, McCain is in California today and gives a speech on the economy. He acknowledges, per prepared remarks, “market turmoil” and that many are “feeling both concerned and angry.” In answer to the question, “How did we get here?” McCain will say that a housing bubble was created by “the largest increase in home ownership in the past 50 years.” To help the problem, he will call for “a meeting of the nation's accounting professionals to discuss the current mark to market accounting systems” and “a meeting of the nation's top mortgage lenders.”

But notice the difference between McCain’s tone and Clinton’s housing speech from yesterday, in which she called for and Emergency Working group on Foreclosures… “Let's start with some straight talk,” McCain will say. “I will not play election year politics with the housing crisis.  I will evaluate everything in terms of whether it might be harmful or helpful to our effort to deal with the crisis we face now.  I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers.  Government assistance to the banking system should be based solely on preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy. 

“In our effort to help deserving homeowners, no assistance should be given to speculators. Any assistance for borrowers should be focused solely on homeowners, not people who bought houses for speculative purposes, to rent or as second homes.  Any assistance must be temporary and must not reward people who were irresponsible at the expense of those who weren’t. I will consider any and all proposals based on their cost and benefits. In this crisis, as in all I may face in the future, I will not allow dogma to override common sense.”

The AP on the upcoming speech: “McCain wants to leave the door open to a wide array of proposals to address the turmoil in home financing.” More: “McCain seemed to suggest he would be open even to potential solutions that, perhaps, stray from the Republican party line, saying, ‘I will consider any and all proposals based on their cost and benefits’ and ‘I will not allow dogma to override common sense.’” He will also call on lenders to help out their customers: “ ‘They've been asking the government to help them out,’ McCain said of lenders. ‘I'm now calling upon them to help their customers, and their nation, out.’”

More: “But the small-government advocate and four-term Arizona senator also put restrictions on how far he was willing to go.”

The Boston Globe’s Canellos calls these “good days” for McCain. “…[A]s the fifth anniversary of the war passed last week, the challenges for the Democrats loomed larger and support for McCain seemed more durable.

“Recent national polls have shown voters choosing McCain by large margins over Clinton and Obama as the candidate most capable of handling the war. A recent Gallup poll showed McCain favored on Iraq over Clinton and Obama by identical 54-to-40 margins. A Los Angeles Times poll had McCain over Clinton on the war by 51 to 35, and Obama by 47 to 34. Democrats view those numbers with suspicion, noting that McCain's views on Iraq are more hawkish than the public realizes, since they haven't been much in the news.”

From Beirut, Reuters reports, “Arabs keen to see the end of George W. Bush's presidency fear that a win for likely Republican candidate John McCain will bring little change to U.S. policies they blame for destabilizing the Middle East. For Arab politicians who have gained from U.S. policy in countries including Iraq and Lebanon, continuity may be a good thing. But Bush's many critics in the Arab world worry that McCain will continue current U.S. policies, which they fault for unleashing chaos in Iraq and providing unflinching support for Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians.”

McCain is set to appear on Letterman on Monday.

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“We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says. I've seen the facts on the ground," the Arizona senator insisted....
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McWar, McNasty, McAlzeimers....there's a river that runs through Eqypt you should see...its called Denial!
In agreement with BIN LADEN???

Did you ever consider that Bin Laden WANTS the US to stay in Iraq?  The Bush policies have been VERY distabilizing; I would think Bin Laden wants to see this distabilization continue.
“While Bin Laden Urges Followers To Fight In Iraq, Clinton And Obama Deny That It Is A Key Terrorist Battleground.”

You'll notice that the two statements in this sentence are not mutually exclusive. Nor does Bin Laden begging for support in Iraq prove that it is the central battleground in al Queda as McCain claims - in fact, it seems to imply the exact OPPOSITE of that. After all, he's not exactly asking for more support in Afghanistan, but he DOES want to find supporters to back him in Iraq? Does that really say "Iraq is where our HQ is?" This is a baffling interpretation of the facts.
I'm no military expert, but the whole country of Iraq seems to be a giant boobie trap, that Bush led us into, and noone in the Republican party seems to understand will be a shooting gallery with American soldiers as the target for as long as we stay there.  

It's a war that we CANNOT win, because there is no definition of winning.  The Iraqi people don't want U.S. invading forces to run their country or to create a figure head government.  

Yes, there may be some chaos when withdraw.  How is that any different than the everyday chaos now with American troops in the crossfire, and actually a force for the opposing groups to unite against.

The most staggering thing to me is that 97% of American casuaties have occured SINCE G.W. Bush declared mission accomplished.

GET US OUT NOW!
The last thing we need is a person from a long line of US military men at the head of our government.   Military men necessarily think along military lines.
This McCain is going to show himself to be a trainwreck throughout the rest of Spring, Summer, all the way to November.

Clinton and Obama are bloodying each other in this campaign...McCain has only himself to blame.  Sheesh.

He's scary.  (he must have a false sense of security but guess what John, we still have an eye on you)

Obama 08
Here's the question the press won't ask."If we stop paying the insurgents will they start attacking again?" Should we pay them forever?
How many of our tax dollars are going to bribe the insurgents to tamp down the violence?  How long can America keep that going?
"I don't care what anybody says!" Spoken like a true Bushist. This McWar is a real threat to continue America's down fall started and lead by Bush/Cheney.
Why are we in Iraq for in the First Place? Any answers?
I'll believe McCain's message that we are succeeding when he takes a stroll through the streets of Baghdad by himself.  I know he's seen the facts on the ground in Iraq. It seems like half the assets we have in country are mobilized to protect his sorry butt so that he can have a photo op and lie to the American electorate about how "improved" things are while gunships fly overhead and snipers are positioned all around him.  

"We're succeeding, I don't care what anybody says" is the mantra of the Bush/McCain war. Too bad so many people buy into their vision of success.

[[McCain told reporters after his town hall, "Gen. Petraeus and I and Osama bin Laden are in agreement. It is hard to understand why Senator Clinton and Senator Obama do not understand that [Iraq is the central battleground].]]

McCain doesn't understand that Bin Laden _wants_ Iraq to be the "central battleground" for a good reason. He'd much prefer it to be in Iraq, where the Bush/McCain holy war is generating a continuing supply of fresh al Qaeda recruits rather than Afghanistan and Pakistan, where Bin Laden himself is hiding out.

McCain is not bright enough to see that he's fighting on the battleground of the enemy's choosing. I guess that's not surprising since he's shown with his asinine comment about Shia Iran training Sunni al Qaeda taht he doesn't even know who the enemy is.

[[A Los Angeles Times poll had McCain over Clinton on the war by 51 to 35, and Obama by 47 to 34. Democrats view those numbers with suspicion, noting that McCain's views on Iraq are more hawkish than the public realizes, since they haven't been much in the news.” ]]

The public doesn't realize it because the media won't give them the facts. The media is selling the public another turkey as bad or worse than Bush -- Dan Abrams excepted. I was glad to see that Abrams has added a "Teflon John" segment to his program to point out McCain's blunders, lies and cheap shots. Unfortunately, it seems that MSNBC is the only media outlet that's spending much time giving the facts on McCain rather than fawning over his mythical foreign policy "exptertise."
Does he know that Osama wants the war in iraq to continue...  so that the US wastes resources instead of looking for him....
McCain comes from the same arrogant "I don't care what anybody says" as well as the Darth vader school of "So". If the U.S majority votes for this angry throwback to the cold war mentality this country will suffer gravely politically and economically for a long time come. We have no one to blame but the clueless/ignorant masses who have the same mind set as the latter two and unfortunately the rest of the sane  informed population in this country and the  world will suffer.  
I am very concerned about Senator McCain's support from Reverend John Hagee.  Although I am a Catholic, and am aware of Hagee's anti-Catholic remarks and sermons, that is not the big deal.  It is his "Christians United for Israel" movement, and their desire to continue and widen the conflicts in the Middle East, with the supposed hope of hastening the "rapture".  Am I the only one concerned?
sozzi, We are in this war because Bush wanted it before he was ever elected. His reasons are:

He wanted to be better than his Dad. He is worse.
For the oil. $4.00 a gallon.
To boost the economy. Recession.
To save Americans. 4,000 killed.

Yes there will be chaos when we pull out. There will be chaos whenever we pull out, even if after 50 years. Bush is not a very smart man. He couldn't see that this war can never be what he calls WON.
REALITY CHECK.

DEMOCRATS ARE DIVIDED.

OBAMA IS UN-ELECTABLE IN NOVEMBER.
Is he trying to give this election away?

"Gen. Petraeus and I and Osama bin Laden are in agreement."

Really?

we have met the enemy and he is us

Is winning defined as collapsing like Roman Empire? Maybe we should stop winning before it is too late.
Mccain couldn't even stroll through the same market he did a year ago, even with the blackhawks and body armor..so how is it better now?

PS: when are the chickenhawks hiding their kids under their beds going to send them off to fight in Iraq? Jerry? Dave? any other republican apologists have an answer? I didn't think so


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