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Bill Clinton Indiana wrap up

Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:48 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli
SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Amid a festive crowd celebrating Dyngus Day in the Hoosier State, Bill Clinton yesterday morning upped the ante on seating delegates from Florida and Michigan, criticizing his party’s “strategy of denying and disempowering and disenfranchising the voters” there. His argument to seat Florida’s delegates in particular came as he continued to claim that his wife would be the most electable general election candidate.
 
Clinton curiously said Democrats “let New Hampshire go out of turn,” adding that they have a Democratic Secretary of State. “The Florida voters are totally innocent. They asked to vote on time,” he said.
 
The Democratic National Committee’s preliminary calendar called for New Hampshire to vote on Jan. 22. But that Democratic secretary of state, Bill Gardner, moved the first-in-the-nation primary to Jan. 8 when Michigan settled on Jan. 15. The DNC chose not to sanction New Hampshire, since the calendar rules were originally set in part to protect the Granite State’s tradition of being the first-in-the-nation primary.
 
Clinton was joined by his daughter, Chelsea, and former Maryland Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend campaigning in what locals dubbed the “Dyngus Day Capital of the World.” Though Dyngus Days elsewhere have reportedly included drenching women with water, the event locally featured just brats, beers and Polish music. The event here is closely associated with politics, as well, which is what drew Townsend’s father, Robert F. Kennedy, to South Bend 40 years ago.
 
“My heart leaps up when I come to South Bend for Dyngus Day,” Townsend said. “No other ethnic group voted in larger numbers for Kennedys than the Poles. I don’t know what that says about the Irish, but thank you very much.
 
Townsend and a local priest also led the crowd in singing “Stolach,” which the priest said some confuse with the national anthem of Poland, but Townsend admitted it was a drinking song. “But we’ll sing it anyway!” she said, before bursting into song. When Clinton took the stage, he thanked her for singing, so he didn’t have to.
 
Candidates for congress and governor spoke before Clinton, as did former Rep. Tim Roemer, an Obama supporter. He said the choice between the Democrats was “tough.” But he cited the debate over NAFTA, which Clinton saw through as president but he voted against, as a tipping point. “[I] told [Clinton], respectfully, ‘I’m with my people. I’m with people in Indiana,” Roemer said. “That vote against NAFTA was one of the best votes that I cast throughout the 1990s. That was the right vote for our people.”

Bill: McCain, ‘oldest president’
ROCHESTER, Ind. -- In the past week, Bill Clinton has seemed to go out of his way to praise John McCain as he tries to buttress his wife’s claims to electability. Yesterday, he invoked McCain’s name again, but drew attention to something the Arizona senator will have to contend with.
 
“Final thing I want to say, and maybe most important of all, is -- I really do believe she oughta win,” Clinton told nearly a thousand at Rochester Community High School (home of the Zebras). “We’re going to have a historic election regardless. We’re gonna elect either our oldest president ever, or our first African American president, or our first woman president.”
 
Clinton regularly talks about the possibility of a woman or African American being president, but rarely has highlighted the potential for history on the Republican side.
 
He continued to say that all the candidates are “very compelling, each in their own way,” and said for the first time, he felt he wouldn’t have to “be against anyone” in an election. Then, he again talked about his wife’s work with McCain, particularly on climate change.
 
“They like and respect each other. But she thinks he’s wrong to say we should stay in Iraq for a hundred years, and she thinks he’s wrong to support the Bush economic policies,” he said. “And I believe that she has enough credibility on both to defeat him in November.”
 
As he did earlier today, the former president again included the controversy over delegates in Michigan and Florida in raising concern about an Obama candidacy for the Democrats.
 
“It’d be a terrible thing for us to have gone to all this trouble this year, turn around and lose this election,” he said. “She can win, partly because she hasn’t made anybody in Florida and Michigan mad by saying it’s okay to disenfranchise.”
 
He then pointed to polls in Ohio and Arkansas, where Hillary leads McCain and Obama trails in head-to-head matchups. “This is not rocket science. We need to win this thing. She can win this thing. And we have got to win.”

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I really believe Senator Obama ought to stay in St. Thomas another week or so.  At the rate they ar egoing Bill and Hillary will completely self-destruct before too much longer.
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
If the DNC would have stood up in the first place we wouldn't be having these stupid primaries and caucuses in January.
Meanwhile, the latest poll from North Carolina shows Obama improving by 20 POINTS (!) in the past two weeks. Link: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/03/obama-regains-ground-in-two-upcoming.html
No she cannot win this thing big, Bill. The reason she can't is because she's not going to win the nomination. Each time you and Hillary lavish praise on John McCain, you guarantee that Hillary won't even have a chance in 2012.
Bill is the one who taught Hillary how to "misspeak"
“She can win, partly because she hasn’t made anybody in Florida and Michigan mad by saying it’s okay to disenfranchise.”

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She signed the go ahead in the first place to strip them of their votes... Spin, spin, spin... I am getting dizzy!
“My heart leaps up when I come to South Bend for Dyngus Day,” Townsend said.

Something about this statement is just … wrong.  

My heart goes out to William Wordsworth.  Apparently Townsend didn’t inherit her father’s oratorical skills.


Obama 08

Amy Andersen @ 1:55 p.m. 3/25/08  (Loading Bill Clinton)
"“She can win, partly because she hasn’t made anybody in Florida and Michigan mad by saying it’s okay to disenfranchise.”"

I'm troubled by Bill Clinton's above remarks...this is what he's giving as a compelling reason for HRC's alleged electability, that she pandered to to the people of FL and Mich., that she flip-flopped on the rules, that she only became interested in changing the rules when she needed what she perceived to be her advantage in the State.

Even I, as an Obama supporter, can point to better arguments for her but this is what he chooses to use.  Has he truly sunk that low?  This whole thing on Florida and Michigan is truly revisionist history.  I think it would, at this point, do all of us voters a service for someone to factually point out all the nuances (and appropriate blame) on how the FL and Mich. mess came to be.  Its not appropriate to put it on Obama (who had less to do with it than just about anyone) and its likewise not appropriate to have Hillary's electability turn on it.

This is patently ridiculous.

Its not clear to me that she can "win this thing".  She is getting less electable as each day passes.

Obama for President 08

Is Chelsea ever going to do an interview???  Why can she campaign but can't do interviews?  Why does the media allow this?  She is an adult now making more money than 99% of the public.  
'...strategy of denying and disempowering and disenfranchising the voters”...'

This is the strategy that Billary AGREED TO prior to the Iowa Primary
This is the strategy Mr. Ickes VOTED FOR prior to the Iowa Primary

Without Michigan and Florida, Billary CAN'T CATCH UP
Don't worry Willie, SHE COULDN'T CATCH UP, WITH THEM

You are trying 'denying and disempowering and disenfranchising the voters' by asking the Super Delegates to IGNORE the will of the Primary/caucus voters !!

Your whole plan is to get the Super Delegates to IGNORE the will of the primary/caucus voters

Sorry, NO DICE
Crooked Billary HAS NO CHANCE !!

Barack Obama is inevitable

Barack Obama will be your next President

Get used to it, Bill
You'll have to pay for your own interns.....
Bill Clinton: "The rules are the rules only when they benefit me. Otherwise, it's all up for grabs..."
LATEST POLLS:

Obama picks up gains in PA. Hillary's lead down to  10% now rather than 15%. And Obama has barely campaigned in PA to date.  

Obama killing Hillary in North Carolina, Obama 55%, Hillary 34%. Attributed to Obama picking up more white vote then in the previous polls.

Prediction - the constant harranging of Obama in the media, etc. about his Pastor is going to backfire, is back-firing, and Obama will pick up a huge sympathy vote. Keep doing what you are doing Bill and Hillary. Destroying yourselves.

Like your strategy Obama. Taking it easy and playing it cool on the beach while Bill and Hillary run around like chickens with their heads cut off looking more and more frenzied and out of control. Love it!
I stood in a line for 3 hours to see Willam J. Clinton last night and I couldn't have regret it anymore.  It was nice to see the former President, even though I interned in Washington my sophomore year of college and had the pleasure of seeing the 43rd President while he was in office, but his speech just digusted me.  

I don't see how the Clinton campaign can bash Obama for giving speeches about Hope and Promises, while Bill Clinton stood before an audience of more than 4 thousand last night promising everything under the sun.  He was talking about fuel effienct vehicles who will get 100mpg, and how "supposely" one day all Americans will be able to afford them.  YEA RIGHT...Not anytime soon.  He also stated how this campaign will make history.  We will either have the oldest candidate, first black male, or first woman. But you should have heard how quickly he spun from 1st black male to first woman.  He left no room for excitement and applause.  And the 1st woman comment didn't get much applause.  We here in Indiana don't fall for the B.S. Remember we aint no Big State.  

I stood in the hot gym with my head down most of time because I became so disgusted with his campaign rhetoric I didn't even want to look directly at the man.  Like I said earlier in a post; The Clintons got more spin than a marry go round, and promise to satisfy you like a 3k dollar hooker. But if we elect Hillary into office we wont be able to receive a refund. No buyers-remorse here.  Just like a 3k dollar hooker, you really can't do ALL that MUCH for me, and you are really looking out for one this.  Guess everything we do is someway connected to paying a mortgage.  

Bill-Im soo Happy you left my state of Indiana.  Please Please, DONT COME BACK!
 
The Indiana primary is on May 6, but you don't have to wait! Starting April 7, you can vote just by going to an early voting location in your county during their scheduled hours. Vote early for Hillary and make sure your voice heard!


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