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First thoughts: Should she stay or go?

Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:23 AM by Mark Murray
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Stay or go? To paraphrase that old Clash song, “Should she stay or should she go?” (“If I go there will be trouble; and if I stay it will be double…”) That was the question that continued to dominate the Beltway chatter over the weekend. The problem for Clinton is that she's busier trying to prove her relevance in the process rather than debating Obama about the economy, health care, or Iraq. Indeed, Clinton told the Washington Post that she’s in until the end. But it's simply not good for any campaign to have call up major national reporters to tell them that. A few questions we have about this interview: Did the need to do this come from financial duress, superdelegate duress, or both? Have more folks contacted the Clintons privately that the press hasn't heard about that's giving this pushback from the campaign more of a sense of urgency? Could some Clinton supporters (or even active campaigners, paid or unpaid) be ready to bolt? We in the media have been accused of creating this sense of urgency over whether she should stay in the race or not. But did Clinton herself need to add to the storyline with this interview? Apparently, she did. Nevertheless, more superdelegates are flocking to Obama. According to the Wall Street Journal, and confirmed by NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D) will endorse Obama today. And the Journal also reports that Obama will get the support of North Carolina’s entire Democratic congressional delegation before that state’s primary on May 6.

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd offers his first read on the big superdelegate add for Barack Obama while Hillary Clinton continues to fight calls to drop out of the race.

*** “I’m reporting for duty,” part II: The comparisons between McCain's '08 bid and Kerry's in '04 have been unmistakable: Both men, early on, were their party's overwhelming favorites to win the nomination; then they encountered trouble and got overshadowed by other candidates; and then -- almost out of nowhere -- they locked up the nomination. Now, as McCain today embarks on his "Service to America" tour across the country, there's another comparison between the two men: the emphasis of their military experience. Today, McCain stumps in Meridian, MS, where he served as a flight instructor and where an airfield is named after his grandfather. Per excerpts of his speech, McCain will discuss his family’s lifetime of service, as well as his thoughts on how the government can support parents’ ability to raise their children. On Tuesday, he’s at Episcopal High School in Alexandria, VA, where he graduated from high school. On Wednesday, it’s to Annapolis, MD, where he attended the US Naval Academy. On Thursday, he heads to Pensacola and Jacksonville, FL, where he served stateside. And on Saturday, he gives a speech in Arizona, which he now calls home.

*** But biography isn’t everything: McCain's military service -- including his five years as a POW in Vietnam -- is without a doubt one of the central narratives of his life and his political career. It is also something that clearly distinguishes him from both Obama and Clinton. But as Bill Kristol writes in today’s New York Times, you can’t win presidential on biography alone. “If voters had simply looked at the biographies of the major-party candidates, they would have chosen George H. W. Bush in 1992, Bob Dole in 1996, Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004. Instead, they rejected four veterans who served in wartime (and who also had considerable experience in public life) for Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, who had lesser résumés, both civilian and military.” Kristol adds, “Campaign consultants like to say elections are about the present and the future more than the past.” Also, keep this in mind: If McCain fails to win the presidency, it will likely mean that no Vietnam War veteran will ever be president. That should keep historical psychologists busy for years.

*** The Texas three-step: Over the weekend, we finally got an idea of the complete Texas caucus results. But we still don't have final results. As for the change in the delegate count, NBC had already allocated all but nine of the 67 caucus delegates up for grabs. The Obama campaign is claiming they've secured seven of those nine; the Clinton campaign is not projecting their caucus delegate count but believes Obama may only net five of those nine, not seven. Still, the best case for Obama, based on our totals, is a net of five additional delegates -- so not a massive change in the numbers. He may be getting more superdelegate endorsements today than he'll net out of what's remaining in Texas.

*** The Goreacle speaketh: One person who doesn’t seem eager to step in and resolve the Clinton-Obama fight is Al Gore. "I'm not applying for the job of broker,” he said on 60 Minutes last night. But what Gore is doing is launching is “a three-year, $300 million campaign Wednesday aimed at mobilizing Americans to push for aggressive reductions in greenhouse gas emissions, a move that ranks as one of the  most ambitious and costly public advocacy campaigns in U.S. history," the Washington Post writes. Climate change advocates have been frustrated that the issue is not yet a voting issue; Gore et al have succeeded in creating awareness, but they have yet to create a sense of urgency on the issue. That's what this campaign is designed to create.

*** Opening Day: Today is Opening Day, and after last night's amazing Nationals ending (thank you, Ryan Zimmerman!), it's a reminder that the beauty of Opening Day is that fans of EVERY team have high hopes and can think, "Maybe this is the year..." Well, today is a new Opening Day for McCain as he tries to jumpstart his general election campaign. And then there's Clinton, who desperately needs an Opening Day; the campaign needs that hope again. And as for Obama, he's like the baseball team who has a seven-game lead going into the final month of the season but hasn't yet clinched. The pennant appears to be his for the taking, but for some reason the veteran team chasing him keeps hanging around and hanging around…

*** On the trail: Elsewhere today, both Clinton and Obama are in Pennsylvania: Clinton hosts a roundtable discussion in Harrisburg and an economic rally in Fairless Hills, while Obama has a town hall in Lancaster and a rally in (cue Billy Joel) Allentown. Also, Bill Clinton stumps in Oregon.
 
Countdown to Pennsylvania: 22 days
Countdown to North Carolina, Indiana: 36 days
Countdown to Election Day 2008: 218 days
Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 295 days
 
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Funny how anti- beltway candidate for change is really the consummate beltway insider - all show no go. The people of Mass. figured this out quickly, pundits and reporters, of course, are ultimate insiders themselves, so they do the bidding of the insiders.
kathy palm bay florida: what facts lead you to believe that we will be in worst shape if obama wins the general election, because as far as i can see either one of the dem candidates will be a big improvement on what GWB is doing to the econony.
A scorpion stepped to the bank of a river, where a big bullfrog was happily swimming about.

"Hey bullfrog," said the scorpion, "I must cross the river, yet I cannot swim. Please allow me to ride on your back, and ferry me across."
"If I carry you on my back, you will sting me before we cross" responded the bullfrog.
"If I sting you, we will both drown," the scorpion pleaded, "so you can be sure I won't do that."

The bullfrog considered for a moment what the scorpion had said, and relented. The scorpion climbed onto the  bullfrog's back, and they headed out into the river.

Halfway across, the scorpion stung the bullfrog.

As both slowly sank below the water, certain to die, the bullfrog croaked, "Why did you do that, scorpion? You knew it meant death for you as well as for me!"
"Because I am a scorpion" responded the scorpion, before sinking to his death.

A bit of Middle Eastern wisdom. Moral: don't expect Hillary's campaign style to change - as some here have suggested she do - anytime soon!
Jim Luntrall,

Stick a fork in it, it's done.

The State delegates to the Texas Democratic State Convention, although not legally bound, will vote as they have been instructed by the County Caucus delegates. The Counties are sure to send committed individuals as State delegates and alternates. WHether they support Clinton or Obama, they are not likely to be swayed.

Hillary should stay in the race so that every Democrat has the opportunity to cast their ballot. She will for sure win PA, and if Florida and Michigan are counted, and Puerto Rico goes for her, which they are likely to do, she stands a chance, depending on the margins in the other upcoming states, to severly narrow Obama's lead, if not move ahead.

Obama is all talk and no substance - no experience, he hoodwinked the Canadians about Nafta, he lied about never having heard his racist pastor Wright for twenty years go on a tirade (who's he kidding?) - and McCain and the republicans will pummel him in the national election. They will scream lack of experience, they will raise the Rezko deal to the roof, they will show him as all oratory and no specifics and the republics will keep the white house.

Hillary is the only candidate who can stand up to McCain. Don't you all remember the peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton? With Hillary, it will be more prosperity, more security, people will be able to afford college and health care costs agaiin.

Vote Hillary.
I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I don't think Hillary should drop out now. There are only 10 states/territories left, and we'll be done with this marathon in about two months. We can all hang in there a little while longer.

THEN, the superdelegates should get together right away and decide who gets the Democratic nomination, NOT wait until August. An "early" decision will allow the Democratic nominee to regroup in time for the general election. I only hope the DNC leadership, which has been weak until now, will finally rise to the occasion and wrap this up in a timely fashion. DNC leaders need to stand up to the Clinton machine for the sake of the party.
Hillary is a combat veteran? Can anyone clarify this claim? A Google on her military experience comes up with a site saying that Bill Clinton did nothing to prevent terrorism before he left office despite accountable intelligence reports.
My guess is that with all the debunked myths on the Clintons, they only meant to win for their own sake and to cap their political career with the presidency with little regard for accomplishing major national goals like economic and healthcare reforms. The Clintons are really hungry for another Clinton Administration. For them, wielding power is fun and rewarding.
Senator Obama called for party unity yesterday in his speech, and said that Senator Clinton should stay in the race as long as she likes. The main thing is that voters are engaged in the political process and learning more than ever about how democracy works. I am proud of Senator Obama as my candidate of choice. He didn't bash Senator Clinton like she has done him in many instances. He spoke well and with respect of Senator McCain also. I heard his speech on the economy about regulating financial institutions, and its funny how the Bush administration has started to put some of those points into reality. He as a special gift of inspiring ordinary people to believe in themselves and do extraordinary things. We have long needed a leader with that ability. Our country is stuck in the mud, it will take all of us to get it moving again. Obama 08
There is no mystery as to why HRC is calling the media to assure everyone that she is staying in. I am surprised that you are wondering and speculating.
It is simple: Today she reports her March funds and balance. It ain't gonna be pretty, and will clearly raise the question of viability.
Can someone explain to me how the Texas system is fair? Hillary Clinton won by over 100k votes, but obama will net 5 more delegates. This sounds crazy too me. If this was Hillary Clinton claiming 5 delegates the title of this story would be "Hillary looking to turn delegates towards her". There is such bias in the media that I can't believe anything anymore. I can't wait until the voters have their say again, and these headline hunting pundits can't predict they just have to report. This is getting out of control. I hope people are smarting than to believe all of this nonsense.
For the poster who wrote that this country would be worse off if Obama beats McCain, in case you haven't already noticed, we are already pretty much at rock bottom with George Bush and company.  With McCain we would go even lower, with a war in Iran, and Hillary would be too busy paying back all the debts she rang up with those she bartered with for their support.  Therefore, there is no place else to go but up, with Barack at the helm.

For the poster who wrote that McCain would decimate the democrat's nominee, I seriously doubt that, and so do you.  McCain has shown himself to be uninformed, disoriented, out of touch with reality, and a half step above George W. Bush.    
In the last week, the polls have broken decidedly toward Obama.  Gallup daily tracking had him up ten points yesterday, his largest margin to date in that poll.

It will be curious to watch PA polling this week.  My guess is that Clinton's lead has dwindled considerably from the 16-22 points of just a week or two ago.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html
People.  Its simple. There is no reason for Hillary Clinton to leave.  The ad hominem attacks and the chicken little "the sky is falling on the party" rhetoric from the media and the Obama supporters ignores these three very simple facts:  1) On the delegate race, the RULES that everyone likes to quote- state that whomever gets to 2024 wins and NOT he who LEADS in delegates (by the thinnest margin in history) wins; because neither of them will get to 2024, then we have a race only the supers can decide and they have NOT decided yet; 2) it is looking at least plausible, and some would say likely, that Hillary Clinton will finish the primary season with a LEAD IN THE POPULAR VOTE; to the extent such a lead is relevant to the will of the people (another oft spoken mantra of the media and the Obama supporters), the supers will likely consider that as one aspect in determining who should be the nominee; and 3) if HRC is forced out now, without a revote of HRC friendly and key dem states (PA and MI) it will seem to many of her supporters as though the party - and particularly men, have closed ranks around Senator Obama.  This will have a deeply detrimental effect on Obama's ability to beat McCain -- IF you don't think the party is worried about that, you are not thinking this through.  The best thing for the party and for each of these candidates is to allow the process to continue.  I agree with Bill on this one.. Everyone needs to chill out and listen....  Turn down the noise and decide on the merits, not on the punditry...  
I just don't "get it".  It seems like so many people are jumping on this Obama bandwagon and "believing" in platitudues.   All of his promises are deals that are going to take cONSIDERABLE acts of congress and he has not got the where-with-all to get them passed.  I do not see how his presidency will be a great success.Please save us from ourselves.




















Drip, Drip, Drip, slowly the superdelgates are going to Obama.

Lisa, I'm with you, I dont care if she goes or stays to the end, all she is doing is wearing out her welcome playing the victim.  The big boys are bullying me yada yada.  Does she ever take a hard look at herself and her campaign and see how they do things wrong.  Its always someone else's fault.

Go Obama 08
JohnnyU- You said "Hillary has wound up coverd in all the stuff she attempted to through at Obama"

There is a Biblical priciple for that: GOD is not mocked, whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.
Alise - Obama said Hillary should stay in the race as long as she wants to and as long as her supporters will support her.  That's a position of strength, not weakness.
Obama supporters seem really frantic about Senator Clinton remaining in the race?  Do they fear America will learn actually who this person is?  Are they afraid of what may come out next?  Will it be about Obama, Michelle or his indicted friends?  Stay tuned!
If Hillary doen't pay her bills she will not be able to campaign long. I don't understand why Hillary has stiffed her rent bills and caters. At least someone has a heart to take her money they had received from over due rent and give it to Obama campaign. Read the ticker on how Clinton can't pay her bills. Very impressive.
Obam in the white house will be on the job training.We alredy have one on the job training BUSH.It will be 8 years soon and he still isn't trained.His trainer is running the country.Hillary will win because she will get the womans vote.The men do not want a woman running this country.We need the change.The last 8 years of men running this country have been a disaster.Obama hasn't been up in Washington only a couple years and he thinks he can run this country.He has nothing behind him.No experience only talk.He talks like he is talking to a jury as he is a trial lawyer.He even has said that he never got into Washington but he knew it needed a change.How would he know it needed a change if he never got into Washington.You know Hillary came in third place in the Iowa caucas and an eldery man has said that he has been through many Iowa cacus and the one in third place won the Presidency.I do not believe with all the racisim in this country that the White House will ever be a BLACK House.
Note the gender of the media's overwhelming "why doesn't  she leave the race?"  Boiled down, the specific criticism is a) her married name    b)  her insistence on dealing with platform issues and not making nice lady-like deferential nods to any of the guys  c)  her memory (let's compare the others:  is it possible that some of the pre-travel background included warnings of potential sniper fire while she visited sensitive areas?)...her purpose was not to shop for shoes or run for president then; it was to observe and act on the results of information gained.  Not a vacation, certainly! d) funding from unsavory sorts...again, look what's done about it & give that credit. All candidates have that opportunity to accept, reject, disavow, re-direct...

You can elect an entertainer; a warrior; or a highly intelligent and effective, competent human.  I hope to have the opportunity when the howling packs finish, to  elect the latter, Hillary (ignore her dad's last name or her husband's).
51% of Clinton's supporters will be voting for McCain in the general election - does it really matter in the end.
Should MSNBC report Washington Post info that Obama LIED about his father's connection to the Kennedy family??
Hmmm....

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/30/13655/6958

Nope!  ain't gonna happen. MSNBC and NBC will continue concealing negative info about Obama.

Margaret, NYC (Sent Monday, March 31, 2008 10:02 AM)


Please Margaret, let's get real here.  I was held up at gunpoint in a bank and remember it like it happened yesterday.  If Hillary Clinton had come under sniper fire, she would have remembered it the same way.  It's scary when you are faced with possible death.  To compare Barack Obama's story to this is ridiculous.  She flat out lied about an incident that she was directly involved in.  Barack Obama got his facts wrong.  One might say it was an honest mistake, but her story was told multiple (I think the count is up to 5) times.  If Sinbad remebered exactly what happened, why didn't Hillary?  Maybe she remembers paying all of her campaign debts too.  Or did she make a mistake about that one too?
It is so clear Obama can not win the general election, especially with the recent revelations coming about Reverend Wright.  You can be sure there are more "secrets" to come out.  The only way the Dems can win in November is with a Clinton/Obama ticket.  Can't anyone talk sense into Obama's arrogant, chauvinistic brain?  Without Clinton, Obama will lose white women's votes and working class/poor white votes, and that means he will lose to McCain.  Get a grip people: only a 100 or so delegates separate them and a handful of popular votes with many more states waiting to weigh in!  Obama and Clinton are roughly at parity so why is she being pressured to drop out?  SEXISM!
I cannot understand the argument that no Vietnam veteran will ever be President.  Isn't McCain on the older side of Vietnam veterans?  Aren't there vets in their early 60's or late 50's at this point?  It is conceivable that some veteran somewhere could run in the future, just perhaps not any famous ones like McCain or Kerry.  Am I missing something?  Haven't there been other wars where no veteran has been elected President?  Todd brought this up yesterday on CSPAN (PS - that was fantastic when that lady called from Missouri and chewed you two out!) and I was confused then too.
She's starting to implode and it may be interesting to see. Let's let her stay in and watch the mess as it happens.
OBAMA/ZIMMERMAN '08!!!
notice how msnbc  the station that suucks only posts things against senator clinton. ell wake up and smell the coffe folks oabmawill never be president and polls mean s. you wont find msnbc posting this because it dosn,t support there preacher who is a  lair and raceiest.
Are the Democrats suffering from amnesia or are they obstinent in their insistence to be very liberal?
In 1992 Bill Clinton emerged from virtually nowhere and swept away the supposed contenders to win the nomination and eventually the presidency for two terms. He did this simply by running on a centrist platfrom that appealed to both Democrats and Republicans. This rankled a lot of feathers amongst the party faithful who, to this day, continue to embrace a far left liberal agenda.

If Al Gore had trusted in the masterful platform Clinton adopted, he would have easily defeated George Bush. Even running as a labeled Liberal he nearly pulled it off against the most incompetent President we've ever had. Then in 2004, with Clinton farther removed from the process by jealous and egotistical Democrats, they put up their own dupe in John Kerry. They seemed determined to prove Clinton wrong by trying to get a far left liberal into the White House. We all know that that only gave us four more years of Bush.

It's now 2008 and the Democrats are up to their same old tricks. They are parading Barack Obama around as their great hope while the voting records indicate he's just another far left liberal and the next Democrat the party can use against the Clintons. I'm not saying that John McCain will win but he is a true centrist and Obama is not.

Hillary's senate record is never touted but it clearly indicates a politician far from the liberal the Republicans labeled her initally when she threw her hat in the presidential ring. You don't hear much of it anymore because the democratic party has jumped on the Obama bandwagon and Hillary is being dismissed as an annoying pest.

With 28% of Clinton supporters leaning toward McCain if Obama is the Democratic choice, it seems apparent that many real americans know the truth. They are not the racist lunatic fringe the media has labeled them.


The campain to push Hillary out of the race is showing the Obama desesperation on the prospect of having to show his qualification to be president.  Lets be real, lots of platitudes, big smile and no substance.  I he can't stand the long campain we don't need a smat kit with no real experience.
Hillary will stay in till the convention and that is when these super delegates will have their eyes opened.  She is their only weopon for the Dems to beat McCain.  Obama cannot, NO-WAY win the general election.  He brought race into this and the whites are dropping off his band wagon like flies.  He is history and running scared.  His supporters are running scared too.   They pray on their knees every night for Hillary to drop out because that is the only way they can get to the general.
Hang in there Hillary, every day you get more and more support!
Senator Clinton is so conniving.   "The big boys are bullying me??????"

Newsflash to Senator Clinton:  YOU are the establishment candidate.  If the establishment is even turning on you, that might be a sign.  Stay in as long as you want but how about showing a bit of dignity.  You NEVER admit you're wrong or that you've done anything wrong.
I believe that Hillary should stay. This decision can only be made by her. Stop calling for her to get out. It's funny - the media keeps referring to her staying because there may be a bigger controversy against Obama than the Wright mess. What about a LIE bigger than Bosnia; or upcoming lawsuits; or Canadians making public the results of NAFTA contact. I respect HRC tremendously but have lost all respect for Fair and Balance coverage from MSNBC - especially Morning Joe - whose borderline Fox News. Not to mention the racial arsenist Pat Buchanan.
HRC should stay in the race to her heart's content.  What she should not do is distort reality:  1) Obama is not the cause of FLa and MI not being counting; 2)  Obama is AHEAD; 3) TX at the end of the day is in Obama's coluumn;  4) Obam's endorsement are just as sacred as hers  - she cannot have it both ways  - change her negativity>  Her supporters should argue aggressively in her behalf just like Obama's should do for him  - what is sickening is the name calling  - the dirty politics of it all.
Hillary should stay in the race for she is a much better canidate then Oboma.She might have mispoke in the past but who hasn't. As for Obama, he is a liar and a disgrace for our country. He is getting caught on all his past and it isn't rosy. Any one who sits in his church for 20 years and doesn't listen to sermon and doesn't hear!!!!surely won't listen to all the American people. He is the biggest RACIST I have ever heard of and we donot need this in our society.
It would be one thing if HIllary was fighting some great crusade for some issue, but no she is just fighting to get what she thinks in her entitlement. Hence the bad smell coming from the race going forward. From here we are likely to see more of the slow bleed of superdelegates to  Obama as the concensus becomes its time to stop pandering to Clinton's entitlement issues and to start getting a grip on what is needed for November.  She is sucking the air out of everything she touches.
Hillary should stay in this race or she will claim she was robbed of the nomination. Hillary needs to be forced to release her 2000 thru 2006 tax returns, she is waiting to release her 'cleaned up' 2007 return and then will claim she is 'transparent'. The Clinton's have had many financial scandals thoughout the years, voter's have a right to see her financial history.
Clinton must be the only person I know who can continually take bad news (for her campaign) and make it sound like good news.  Hmmm... is this just in her nature to LIE??? I understand why SHE doesn't want to quit, but why does her PARTY not make her get out of the race??? It's so funny to hear folks on TV talk about her chances.  Come on, do the math folks! She's toast, and the sooner she gets out the better for the Dems. Hil - it's true - we don't like you! Now get lost. Oh, and take what's-his-name with you!
Let Hillary go the distance.  When she loses, the Obama victory will be much more satisfying and it will rob her (and her supporters) of any arguments that she was robbed.  I think it would be especially sweet if Barack collected enough delegates, popular votes, and switching super delegates in PA.,NC, and IND to put him in a position to say, "Ok, Hillary, you can have the Michigan and Florida results you keep harping about because it won't change anything." He looks magnanimous and she is completely squelched along with hubby Bill and pit bull Carville.  Let's let Barack do this his way.  He hasn't disappointed us yet.
She will win PA by about 10%, lose NC by 20% and it will be very close in Ind, likely a popular vote win for her by a delagate loss to push for her.  at that point, Obama could give her Mi and Fla and still win

Has Obama done anything that makes one overturn the will of the voters?  Something about consent of the governed? If Hillary was ahead, has she done anything to give it to Obama?  The answer is no.

It will take awhile to play out the string but it will play out. Hopefully, she can give up gracefully..no doubt he would
The only reason why Obama is where he is today is BECASUE MSNBC and AA.  Obama is not goign to win in november, and I hope that AMerican people dont act in the stupid way they act when BUSH.  iti s time to stop been emotional adn use the capacity we have to think n dont let the media to choose for us.  
Obama is not anything but a good speaker.

SHE SHOULD STAY....  AND OBAMA AND HIS SUPPORTERs WANT HER TO LEAVE BECAuSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF HER AND they are afraid that when more information about who Obama really is get to the American people, there is not more chance to choose different one.  so, she should stay...  I just hope that the media really bring all that information out to the public, so we can see who Obama really is, an untiamerican


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