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Obama counters with own 'Rocky' jab

Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:13 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan
PHILADELPHIA -- Speaking to the Pennsylvania AFL-CIO convention here, Obama referenced Clinton's comparison yesterday of herself to Rocky, telling the audience not to confuse fact with fiction.

"I know there’s been some talk about Rocky Balboa over the last couple of days. And you know, we all love Rocky. We all love Rocky,” he said. “And last time I checked, I was the underdog in this state. So, so, the uh, so, so you know, I like the Rocky story. But we got to remember that Rocky was a movie. And so is the idea that somebody can fight for working people and at the same time embrace the broken system in Washington, where corporate lobbyists use their clout to shape laws to their liking.” (It's also worth noting, as many have, that Rocky actually lost in a split decision in the original movie.)

Returning to the themes of his economic speech in New York, Obama told the crowd that “pain trickled up,” and the country was relearning that “what was bad for Main Street was bad for Wall Street.” He railed against the Bush Administration, which he called the most anti-union movement in history, and he promised that he wouldn’t distance himself from labor should he become the Democratic nominee.

“It’s time we have a Democratic nominee who doesn’t just talk about unions in the primary,” he said.

Focusing on McCain, Obama also took advantage of the Arizona senator's admission that he wasn’t the best on the economy. “Now, John McCain said a few weeks ago that 'the issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should' -- and that’s clear since all he’s offering is more of the same Bush policies that have put the American Dream out of reach for so many Americans,” Obama said.

*** UPDATE *** Upon reading this post, RNC spokesman Alex Conant emails First Read this response: “It’s clear Obama lacks experience on economic issues, but that does not excuse his irresponsible calls for higher taxes on individuals and small businesses during economic challenges. Rather than mislead people about McCain’s positions, Obama should honestly describe his own calls for higher taxes and spending.”

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You have a small fortune and the slanted media!  Stop claiming being the underdog, Obama.    

(It's also worth noting, as many have, that Rocky actually lost in a split decision in the original movie.)

And didn't he end up losing all his money in the end??

Obama raises $30M+ in March, Clinton is TBD but likely less than $20M.  If we start hearing from Wolfson and Penn that "Obama is the big money candidate" because of this gap, can somebody in the mainstream media laugh out loud at them on the conference call and then remind them that the only reason Hillary was able to stay in this race in the first place was because of the $100 million she raised from lobbyists?
Right on Obama!!! Rocky is a fiction just like Hillary! Her lies, selfish ways, cheating husband, immature daughter, has no place in our politics. Time for change!!!

Obama 08
Just keep closing the gap in PA, Senator Obama, and pull the biggest upset in primary history!
Go Obama '8!
She even lied again.  She said she was getting a million a day.  Looks like she is short 10 million.
He circles around the ring he jabs her with his right.She swings with a wild Wright,it misses as she ducks a bullet in Bosnian like fashion.He hooks her with a left.She is cut so bad she cant see out of either eye .So now she just swings wildly as more corner men join his camp. Somebody tell Cocky Foulcrowa she needs to throw in the towel soon.
How exactly did the democrats help main street by increasing the taxes on all, especially the lower class they claim to defend???

How is Osama-bin-Bahma plan to let people out of thier mortgages going to help main street???

The democrats want to punish preditory lending. How about punishing fraudulant purchasing. Signing a contract you have no way of paying is still fraud...

How are you going to chickenshit your way out of Iraq in 18 months, pay the war debt, and add 500 Billion is additional social(ist) programs during your presidency.

I don't really care for Mr. McCain's LONG approach to Iraq, but putting either democrat into the captains chair is sure to sink the ship.
“It’s time we have a Democratic nominee who doesn’t just talk about unions in the primary,” he said.

amen obama
13 days and counting.

RELEASE YOUR TAXES HRC!!!!!!

Show all the hard working people how you and Billy made your MILLIONS.

Tell them that you understand how tough it is to get by , since you supported Billy's NAFTA, and sent their jobs far, far, away.

Oh thats right, you will just smile, giggle, and LIE right to their faces.


Silly little billy and Hill.


GAG ME WITH A SPOON!!!!!!!!!
lm from New York,
He has money because he's raised it from over 1,000,000 INDIVIDUALS.  And please don't respond with the spin that bordered on more lies about the money he received from oil company employees.  

Further, I know Hillary suppporters and the candidate herself have to come up with excuses for why the inevitable candidate is losing to a guy they consider a rookie.  But this "media bias" line is not only stale, it's false.  Any other candidate would have long ago been shoved out the door.  The media has kept Hillary in this "race" and up until 2 weeks ago had been biased in not covering her lies related to her experience.
"And you know, we all love Rocky. We all love Rocky. And last time I checked, I was the underdog in this state. So, so, the uh, so, so you know, I like the Rocky story. But we got to remember that Rocky was a movie."

I finally see why everyone is so impressed with Obama's rhetorical skills.
If Clinton's campaign was dreamed up by her from Rocky....then her trip to Bosnia was dreamed up from Full Metal Jacket.  
We all love Rocky,” he said. “And last time I checked, I was the underdog in this state. So, so, the uh, so, so you know, I like the Rocky story.

Obama without his speech writer.
Barack, you should repeat that, "pain trickled up", line,  straight through to the end of the GE. Continue to be passionate about our concerns as Americans, and don't let them paint you as a panderer,. Your sound bites ring all too true with us.

McCain wants us to forget our misery over the state of our failing economy. He believes a stroll through his family album, and revisiting the pain of Vietnam should be the talking points in this race. If that could fill a bag of groceries, who would'nt vote for him.

Senator Obama, keep up the good work.

Pulling for Obama '08

IM from New York:  Obama IS the underdog.....he was up against the "Clinton Machine" and he's come from behind throughout the entire campaign to pull the rug right out from underneath the Queen! Obama is a true "grass roots" candidate and his supporters continue to show that with their unwavering support. Hillary can't even pay her bills!
Obama has a small fortune because of grassroot support and the majority of Americans who are tired of business as usual in Washington.  This nomination WAS Clinton's to lose and she is definitely succeeding at that.
IMO - that whole "Rocky Speech" by HRC was pretty corny to begin with, but in response to Im in NY above:

Obama IS the underdog in the PA polls and has been for over a month now.  

He does have more money than Clinton only because he runs a better campaign and knows better how to raise and spend that money.  He is more economically sound than Clinton. This just proves the argument further that he is more able to improve our nation's economy than Hillary "I have to loan my campaign money" Clinton or John "The Fed Gov't should do nothing about the mortgage crisis" McCain.

As one of Obama's biggest bashers, James Carville, once said, "It's the economy, stupid!" and judging by the way Obama has run a brilliant campaign, both economically and politically, it would be "stupid" to vote for anyone else!

Obama '08
Hmmmmm I just saw the reuters story on the main page where it talks about Hillary leading in key swing state polls.  I wonder why MSNBC would not want everyone to see that.
A stunner in Pennsylvania today, as Obama is ahead in his first poll of the state ever. ANother survey from the state shows Clinton keeping her lead but losing ground: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/04/primary-polls-stunner-in-pennsylvania.html
I read a post the other day pointing out all of similarities between Hillary and Apollo Creed (arrogance, establishment candidate, etc.) and had to admit it had the ring of truth.

In PA Obama is the underdog, but not in the overall campaign - thankfully.
And do I trust Mrs. Clinton to stand behind unions...about as much as Bill did, which wasn't much.
I remember Hillie's early NAFTA support...she's lying about it now.  Unions and middle class strength go hand in hand and Obama is the only candidate I as a union member would vote for in this election.
Hillary Clinton -- AGAIN -- can't tell fact from fiction.  I guess her Bosnia "experience" would make an equally good flick.  All we have to do is get sly to yell "Hilla-ree! Hilla-ree!" through the sniper fire.  
Isn't Hillary more like Rambo ?

They both endured enemy fire
They both fought in Viet Name and Afghanistan

Maybe they could join forces and FIGHT IN IRAQ !!
Then, I KNOW WE'D WIN !!
Since Hillary has a 9 point lead, and led by something like 20 points initially, Obama IS the underdog in PA....
re THE ROCKY ANALOGY:  BEtter still, no only did Rocky lose a split decision, he also won the moral victory and therefore "lost the battle but won the war".  If Obama loses a close one in PA, he too will have won the war.
The whole Rocky analogy is stupid.  Rocky lost in the first movie, in a split decision, so I would not be in such a huge hurry to claim to be the "real" Rocky in this race.
What has Clinton ever fought for, other than the survival of her own campaign?  When has she ever taken an unpopular position because of her convictions?  At least Obama stood against the war when it was highly unpopular to do so, while in the midst of running for the Senate.  The only thing she is fighting for is to keep voters from realizing the fact that she has ridden her husband's name as far as it will carry her.  She's fighting to conceal the fact that if her last name wasn't Clinton, she wouldn't be anybody.  Ask upstate NYers how hard she fought for them.
A new, and respectable, poll in PA puts Barack up by 2 points.  This may be an outlier, but other recent polls also showing this direction.  

This should make the Clintonistas soil their undies.  The fallout from the Bosnia gaffe is just beginning to register, and rather than a solid win, PA is more likely to be a "squeaker" for Billary -- at best.  Bet she rushes back for CA real fast.
I love how Clinton claimed Obama was "unelectable" as soon as she won OH & TX (oh wait she didn't win TX!) and now she's back to being an "underdog." Love how the rhetoric changes minute to minute with them.
You have a small fortune and the slanted media!  Stop claiming being the underdog, Obama.    


lm, New York, NY (Sent Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:20 PM)

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Its called having a larger donor base than Clinton's.  Besides when the esablishment backs you it gives you greater resources.  Even if that establishment is broken
There he goes again...Obama stealing all of Hillary's ideas.

Obama is unelectable.  Just look at the polling numbers from the big swing states!  And the difference is the white vote!!!! He loses it against McCain!  Wake Up Obamabots!!!
Clinton's much more akin to Rambo than Rocky, really... I mean... with the explosions and jets swerving and sniper bullets flying and all...

(and of course, all make-believe)
Senator Obama is the underdog in Pennsylvania.  He is leading in the nation and Senator Clinton would need to win 65%+ votes in all of the remaining contests to pass him, but Senator Obama is still the underdog in Pennsylvania, though the polls are closing.
Yes we can -- help us Keystone State!  Obama '08
Seriously, before this election season started Obama had NOTHING. NOTHING at all. He didn't have the campaign finances, he didn't have the "political machine" that Clinton had in her pocket, and he clearly didn't have all the tools that Clinton had. If anything, he is Rocky. He started from scratch and has battled his way up to being the leader for the democratic nomination. He has built his campaign from the ground up, uniting millions of young workers and getting them to go door to door and also to donate money into his campaign. You have to have done something right to get that kinda of support from the public. Obama knows what he is doing and how to run a campaign. Hillary can't even manager her own money and she isnt' even paying back some of the companies that have hosted her events. I don't think we want someone who can't even pay back the companies they owe to be our president.
With all the "accidents" that happened to the friends, supporters and officials around the Clintons during the 90's, would Obama really risk having Hillary as his vice presidential choice?
I just hope that people will not make the same mistake of electing the wrong president and that is Obama.


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