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Clinton: Bosnia is back...

Posted: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:20 AM by Mark Murray

During campaign stops yesterday in the small Indiana towns of Jasper and Boonville, NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli reports, Bill Clinton went out of his way to stick up for his wife in the flap over her trip to Bosnia in 1996. Clinton had told the audiences that his wife “misstated” the circumstances of the trip just once, chalking it up to exhaustion. But even the Clinton campaign has acknowledged that Hillary erred multiple times in describing a situation in Tuzla. Each time that Clinton brought up Bosnia, he tweaked the press for overreacting to Hillary’s indiscretion. But raising the issue himself after the story had begun to fade only served to keep it alive again. And that makes more noteworthy the fact that Matt McKenna, who has served as Clinton’s press secretary since late 2007, has not been on the trail with the president for over a week, leaving him and traveling press without a day-to-day wrangler.

VIDEO: Just when the flap over Hillary Clinton’s sniper fire comment had died down, her husband brings it back up – and appeared to exaggerate, too. NBC’s Chris Matthews reports.

More from Memoli reporting on Clinton from his second stop last night: "This is a big deal to her,” Clinton said. “Some of you may have seen that she took a terrible beating in the press for a few days because, she was exhausted at 11 o'clock at night and she started talking about Bosnia and she misstated the circumstances under which she landed in Bosnia. Did you all see all that?”

"And oh they acted like she was practically Mata Hari, you know? Just making up all this stuff. And then the President of Bosnia said, 'Well, it was quite dangerous when she came. There were snipers in the hills around.' And then general Wes Clark, who was there trying to make the peace among the Bosnians, said, 'Yeah it was really dangerous. Let me remind you three of the Americans who were on my peace-keeping team were killed because they had to take a dangerous road 'cause they couldn't go the regular way.' And she had to go up into the cockpit with our daughter, in a bulletproof area, and all the other people had to sit on their bulletproof flack jackets because it was dangerous.”

"So she immediately said, 'OK, I misremembered that, they didn't cancel the welcoming ceremony, but it was pretty dangerous.'  She was there cause she cared about the troops."

On cue, the Boston Globe today has a piece about the effect of Bill Clinton on Hillary’s candidacy. "It is one of the central challenges of Hillary Clinton's campaign: How to take credit for the accomplishments of her husband's presidency and profit from his popularity while distancing herself from his past and present positions on which they disagree. The balancing act came into sharper relief this week as she took contrasting positions from Bill Clinton by opposing the Colombia trade deal and favoring a boycott of the Olympic opening ceremonies."

The New York Times front-pages another Bill Clinton accomplishment that has received some criticism from the left: welfare reform. 

After Elton John cited misogyny as having a role in the Democratic primary race, Clinton was asked about it. “Clinton, asked Thursday if she agreed with the notion that anti-women sentiment impedes her battle against Obama, replied: ‘I don't know how I'd assess what role it's playing. I mean, look, you can't ignore the fact that gender and race are embodied in our two candidacies. We are who we are. And that produces reactions of all kinds in people. But at the end of the day, people have to decide who would be the best president.’”

In Pittsburgh yesterday, Clinton hit Obama on his latest oil ad, NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones notes. “I know that my opponent’s been running an ad recent across Pennsylvania very forcefully saying that he doesn’t take money from oil companies. Nobody takes money from oil companies. It’s illegal to take money from oil companies. It’s been illegal for 100 years and in fact, he takes money from oil company executives, but more than that, we both had a chance in 2005 to stand up and be counted. Not just what we say when we’re on the campaign trail, but how we act when it matters. And we had a chance to vote Yes or No on Dick Cheney’s energy bill, which gave billions more in tax breaks to the oil companies. I voted No; he voted Yes and we’re going to take that message across Pennsylvania. If you want somebody who’s strong enough to take on the special interests and mean what I say, and deliver results, I’m your candidate.”

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Now if Hillary Clinton makes "mistatements" on Bosnian sniper fire due to exhaustion at 11:00, then how can she answer calls at 3:00am?
What?  Strategy?  I have often wondered if President Clinton hasn't at times tried to sabotage his wife's candidacy.  But I truly believe he is speaking to voters and saying, "It is okay to vote for her.  There is an explanation for it."  To some people, all they need is an excuse.
Yes, the press treated her "like she just made up all this stuff" because she did, REPEATEDLY, at all hours of the day, several times!  Per Geffen: she lies with such ease.....
Is he really trying this?  Hasn't he seen the video?  I mean, Americans turn the page quickly, but come on.  Does he need it looped again.  Sabotage!  
Maybe Bill is secrety working FOR Senator Obama! Every time this man opens his mouth, more people turn away from his wife and move over to Obama. I only hope he continues. They have treated the American people like idiots and are hoping we don't see through the smoke and mirrors. Your typical Clinton supporter WON'T, but the rest of us already have. She's done.
We have seen quite a few posts from Hillary supporters criticizing Obama for his supposed relationship with terrorist William Ayers.  This brings us to todays trivia question.  Name the President who pardoned four FALN terrorists at the end of his term.

Give up?

It was Bubba!

Of course, I am sure that Hillary was opposed to the pardon.  Right.  Just like she is opposed to free trade with Columbia.  She will fight it tooth and nail.  I am sure we will see some more fake tears from her, if free trade with Columbia becomes law.

She will be crying all the way to the bank.

Obama in 2008.  Integrity matters and the Clintons have none.
hillary and Bosnia. Another attempt to rewrite history.

I think it's about as low as you can go to lay false claim to valor you didn't earn, just to score political points.

It's an insult of the highest order to the thousands of soldiers around the world, past and present, that lay their lives on the line every minute of every day.

And people say Obama is anti-american because he heard someone say something....not quite the same level of offense, I believe.
The Bosnia story has changed AGAIN!!!

Now, according to Bill Clinton, she only told the story once and it was late at night and she apologized right away.

Who are you trying to kid?

Did you catch the comment Bill made on the stump about Obama's latest ad?

"Next, we'll see him run an ad saying, 'Vote for me, I don't steal cars.'"

Now, I'm not going to accuse Bill of being a racist but, my friend, that's a very poor choice of words!

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It's 3:00 am, and your children are safe and asleep.  But there's a phone ringing.  It's a collections agency.  UC Davis wants the Clinton Campaign to pay their bills!
It's ok if Bill gets a little carried away with the spin. He has a lot of making up to do to Hillary. The problem is the American people need the truth. That would be a true new direction and a true change.
How can obama claim to be touph on oil companies when he voted yes on Cheney's energy bill? Hillary voted no. Obama also took more money fron drug companies than Hillary did. This man is such a fake. I read his list of lies.
President Kennedy stated it thus:

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

Might another president state it thus:

"Ask not what your lobbyists can do for you. Ask what you can do for your lobbyists."
She, however, is not the candidate to stand up to special interests.  Her campaign is actually run by special interests, as in especially interested in a trade deal with Columbia that will take jobs out of industrial states like PA and ship them to?  You guessed it COLUMBIA; where any worker attempting to organize will be assasinated by gov't connected right wing hit sqauds.  She is Interesting, but not against special interests.  Just look at her families relationships with special interests!
Thank you Bill Clinton for setting the record straight.
Without your intervention many within the party would have continued to give Hillary the benefit of doubt.  Now we understand that the Bosnia flap is more about both Bill & Hillary's belief that they can say or imply whatever they desire and it MUST be taken as fact.
Without your help, Bill, many would continue to support the standard double talk.  And you were doing so well challenging Obama's patriotism with my fellows at the Disabled American Veterans.  Thanks to your insistence upon supporting a blatant lie concerning hostile fire we gain a fuller appreciation for your willingness to lessen such experiences by others.
Why is there always couple anti Hillary notes first?? Oh geesh never mind I get it. This is the same Boston globe that 9/23/07 praised Obama for makeing key changes in health care bill that favored the insurers?? Where is the story about the billionairs that are paying for Obamas campaign. These lemmings that think they have a say would like to know. You put it on your page but not here why?The fact that she even went there and the other countries she went to on that trip wouldnt even enter anyones mind right? If it was something she hadnt written about and told correctly dozens of times I could see everyone thinking she was trying to lie. Like Obama saying he is a proffesor.He reads why cannt you all get it. He didnt get that grammy for nothing. HE READS
A swirling mist, a vision appears...

Hillary at 3:00 a.m. asleep at her desk, dreaming of her heroic sniper-fire dodging trip to Bosnia, while the phone rings and Bill pats her on the shoulder saying "It's okay honey, you're old and tired, and you better not answer the phone cuz you know how confused you get when you're sleepy".  Sheeeeesh!  I cannot believe he said we should give Hillary a break on her Bosnia tale because she's a 60 year old lady and it was 11:00 at night and she was tired and confused.  But he did say it, and he knows her best I guess.  So that's who should be answering the red phone?  The tired, confused old lady? She'd probably pick up the phone and start hysterically cackling, "How am I supposed to answer that?  I mean, um, you know..Where am I? Who is this again?"
Bill trying to cover up Hillary's lies with more lies. He said she mispoke ONCE because it was LATE and she is OLD and she was TIRED. Whew.
The same people who complain about being called "racist" for not supporting Obama are accusing people who do not support Hillary misogynist.

I understand fully well that many people just prefer Hillary to Obama, or they have their own reasons for not liking Obama.  But for high profile Clinton surrogates to -continually- act like ANYONE who doesn't support Hillary is just not supporting her because of sexism, it gets old REAL quick.

Oh, and great job, Bill!  I thought that Bosnia thing went away too quick.  The way Bill's describing it doesn't even sound quite like how the airplane pilot remembered it.  The pilot called it an ordinary landing... Sinbad said the most dangerous part of the trip was choosing what to eat for dinner...
First she lied about it, now he lies about her Bosnia tale. She didn't say it once, at 11 p.m., when she was tired. She said it over and over again on the campaign trail, dating back to the first of the year. The final time she said, she did so in response to a reporter's question at a press conference on St. Patrick's Day, and I'm pretty sure they don't hold press conferences at 11 p.m.

As far as her actual trip to Bosnia goes, news reports have shown that President Clinton landed at that same airport two months earlier, and the group she landed with included Sinbad, for pete's sake.

Do they really think we're not paying attention?
The Clinton's are simply unbelieveable. Even with documented, indisputable evidence of Hillary's lie on multiple occasions, Bill attempts to pose it as a single late-night gaffe due to fatigue. Even the Hillary Clinton-Ever Fawning-Joe Scarborough was amazed at Bill's WHOPPER!

With lies as intense and consistent as the Clinton's constantly produce, Pennsylvania and Indiana, in particular must answer the following:

Is voting for an African-American SO unthinkable, that casting a vote for Known Liars is a better option?

There is no politician that is or ever will be pure as fresh fallen snow; but Hillary and McCain both looks like snow a week later you know --- dirty, black, ashen, salty slush. Barack is not perfect either, but at least he is so much less tainted then those other two. PA voters -- vote THE BIG "O" and get this primary debacle over with. Then Dems can unite and bear McCain. Please..............
She has lied, I mean "misspoke", three times and none of those instances were at nite.
How can obama claim to be touph on oil companies when he voted yes on Cheney's energy bill? Hillary voted no. Obama also took more money fron drug companies than Hillary did. This man is such a fake. I read his list of lies.
Brother Odd (Sent Friday, April 11, 2008 9:34 AM)

Because Hillary is LYING, again!

Go to factcheck.org, the very site Hillary is directing you to in her latest attack ad that is nothing but lies.  

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/stacking_the_deck.html


Clinton once again mischaracterized the 2005 energy bill, saying it had "enormous giveaways" to oil and gas companies. In truth, the measure raised taxes on those industries.


This is the third time we've pointed out Clinton's distortion of this legislation. She is continuing a bogus line of attack that we debunked when Democrats deployed it widely in the 2006 congressional elections. While it's true that Republican lawmakers had once considered large tax breaks for oil and gas companies in the bill, the biggest of them had been stripped out of the bill by the time it passed.

Once again, it’s true that the Energy Policy Act of 2005 contained $14.3 billion in tax breaks, but most of them weren't for the oil and gas industry. They went mainly to electric utilities for such things as incentives for new transmission lines and "clean coal" facilities, and also for incentives for alternative fuels research and subsidies for energy efficient cars and homes.

According to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the bill did give $2.6 billion in tax breaks for oil companies, but what Clinton fails to acknowledge is that those breaks were more than offset by $2.9 billion in tax increases. The net result was a $300 million tax increase over 11 years on oil and gas companies.

Obama was closer to the truth when he said the 2005 bill (which he supported) was "the largest investment in clean energy ... that we had ever seen."

Obama: Well, the reason I voted for it [the 2005 energy bill] was because it was the single largest investment in clean energy – solar, wind, biodiesel – that we had ever seen. And I think it is – we talked about this earlier – if we are going to deal with our dependence on foreign oil, then we're going to have to ramp up how we're producing energy here in the United States.

We don't know offhand whether there have been bigger tax breaks for clean energy in the past, but the 2005 bill certainly contained a lot of incentives aimed at clean energy and conservation. At the time the bill was being considered, the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation estimated that it included $1.6 billion for "clean coal" facilities and $1.3 billion in incentives for alternative fuels such as biodiesel and incentives for buying alternative vehicles in the form of a tax credit. The bill also contained just under $1.3 billion for energy conservation incentives, including tax credits for homeowners who install certain energy-saving equipment or businesses that install stationary microturbine power plants.

The Cheney Oil policy was overall poor.  Obama has defended his vote: the bill overall raisedtaxes on oil companies, the bill allowed for the greatest allocation to new energy development research and capped carbon emmisions in the industry.

Besides, his ad states that he does not take contributions from Oil Company PAC's or lobbyists!

It sounds like oil companies, PAC's or lobbyists, but check the transcript.  The fact remains hillary takes money from both of these groups.  It is fair to point that out.
First, Elton John, don't preach to me about voting for Hillary Clinton, you misogynist.  
Second, when did 'misremember' become a word?  Or is this just further evidence of a too-chummy relationship between politics and professional sports?  
Third, I am convinced Bill Clinton is subconciously throwing this.  How could she stay with this guy?  He's single handedly ruined her life.  Ridiculous.  Feminism my rear end.
The fact Hillary does and will stand up for what she believes yes even to her husband is why she will make the president we need. Obama has billionairs in back of him that will be in line if he steals this election. He is out to buy it and its not from averages joes.Read the page.Hillary has stood against more heat than Obama has known in his little protected world. He would never make it. Just like the olympics. He had to think about it till Hillary decided than he agrees. Please.Trust me I dont believe Obama would stand up against his wife(she had to give permission for his run and only on her conditions she said)We know what her ideas are from not being proud to get me whiteys for my stage.No with his faults Bill is at least not dangerous like Obamas wife.
This is outrageous.  She was saying the things about Bosnia for 3 months.  I've lost all respect for this man and for his wife.
You know, what's funny is many people will see Bill blunting this sniper thing and actually believe him, particularly if they were feeling nostalgic for the Clinton days anyway. It's much easier to buy into his folksy "shoot, happens to everyone" line than going over the cold, hard facts.

When you tally up the Clinton campaign's missteps and general faults, and compare it to Obama's, who's the winner? http://www.nationalscold.com/2008/04/analysis-judge-obama-and-clinton-by.html
How can obama claim to be touph on oil companies when he voted yes on Cheney's energy bill? Hillary voted no. Obama also took more money fron drug companies than Hillary did. This man is such a fake. I read his list of lies.
Brother Odd (Sent Friday, April 11, 2008 9:34 AM)

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I guess Senator Clinton hopes you don't read this...

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/youve_got_mailers.html
Having recently been divorced...it was made painfully clear to me that 50% of everything I earned was my wife's.  

Doesn't that mean another $400,000 for Hillary in marital assets?  Hmmmm...no Colombian conflict there
I was there in Bosnia, when Hillary was visiting us, and I recall hearing gun shots in the far distance.  So, it's possible she was recalling that, or, that she was told there might be sniper fire and she might have to run from the plane with her head down.  So, we need to get over this now.
As a Viet era vet, fortunately no combat, I would every vet would stand up to REJECT & DENOUNCE Clinton as a potential commander in chief. The gall of her making light of being shot at on LENO saying she almost didnt make it because of sniper fire. I had friends and neighbors killed in Nam. I am voting the BIG "O".  "O" critics may bring the the Wright thing, but this is Hillary in her own words, somebody else.
I am up to my neck with the Clinton/Bush/McSame BS.
"Obama Lies,"
Just one question:  how do you continue to support a couple who is so blatantly lying to you and to the country?  Really.  This latest Bill spin is as close as we've seen to an utter joke since "is....is"
Ok, it seems MSNBC can do a little fact checking. The Energy bill Blillary is referring too is actually an improvement. It sent millions of dollars to alternative fuel sources. From Factcheck.org:

"another distortion. By the time Congress passed the 2005 energy bill, it raised taxes on the oil industry more than it decreased them and also contained billions for alternative fuels research and subsidies for energy-efficient buildings and vehicles."
You can see it coming. Bill's going to endorse Obama.
Bill is truly amazing. Guess the campaign is getting so disjointed that they've forgotten to keep multiple handlers on Bill at all times.

For all of Bill's political smarts, this was the most stupid set of comments that he could have made on Bosnia - and very harmful to Hillary right after this snafu finally quieted down.

http://www.political-buzz.com/
Giving old "Bomb Iran" McCain the White House would probably spell the end of America's middle class and stoke the war fires everywhere.  That's what Silly Hillie Clinton as the democratic nominee would mean.
Yeah, Bill. Open Mouth, insert foot.
Has anyone noticed that Hillary doesn't blink?
Maybe she should sue her plastic surgeon. Pay her bills.
I know, that was ornery but just couldn't help myself.Shame on me.
People still planning to vote for Hillary better think long and hard about what a loose cannon Bill is. This is just the campaign, for crying out loud.

What happens when he starts shooting off is mouth on the world stage or undermining his wife's positions with his boisterous opinions and actions? What is wrong with him anyway? I honestly think he's losing it.

We already have a joke for a president and maybe Dems should think about the prospect of Bill's antics being played out on late night comedy shows for the next 4 years. No thanks.  

Un-treated Mental Health problems seem to run in this family.
We had Hillary and then Geraldine Ferraro and now Elton John all saying that Hillary is at a special disadvantage for winning the presidency. I believe it but I am surprised that they think bringing it up helps their cause.  I was for Richardson and Edwards because I knew that both blacks and women are at a disadvantage. I believe that winning against the Republicans trumps all other considerations. We are at a critical crossroad that will determine whether our freedoms and democracy continues or whether we have an elected dictatorship.  I lean to Barack because I believe he is more electable but if the party delegates decide that neither can win I am OK if they pick someone else.
What excuse did Obama have for lying about;
a)not doing political favors for Rezko
b)his knowledge of the Federal Investigation of Rezko's political connections
c)his knowledge of who funded the joint purchase of his house in Kentwood
d)the fact that he's a "Senior Lecturer" not a Proffessor
e)never having heard Jeremiah Wright say bigoted, and racist things over the course of 20 years worth of attending his church
f)saying he would take matching public funds if his opponant in the general election did so, and now looking for a way to get out of making that pledge
...and the list goes on.
But the press never makes a big deal over, or gives any coverage to the WHOPPERS he's told.
Continuing to harp on the Bosnia thing is very silly. Hillary was just trying to paint a verbal picture of the way things were over there and she exagerated.
Big deal!
The Secret Service did move her up to the bullet proof area of Air Force One when it was landing in Bosnia, she and Wesley Clark were required to keep bullet proof vests within arms reach at all times, and Apache Helicopters escorted Hillary's caravan everywhere it went.
So, it's clear she was trying to verbally describe the atmosphere over there.
Obama on the other hand, has told bold faced lies for which he is never held accountable.
Yes Bomb Iran McCain will be the end of the middle class, cause Bush has already pushed it to the edge.
The only differece is that Obama as the nominee would insure this. Obama cannot win the GE. No way!
Sometimes I wonder if the Clintons believe their supporters were born yesterday. Surely everyone knows that Hillary "misspoke" three times on different days and at all hours?

Maybe the Clintons are depending on the fact that their primary supporters are guzzling beer and too inebriated to discern fact from fiction?
"The fact Hillary does and will stand up for what she believes yes even to her husband is why she will make the president we need. Obama has billionairs in back of him that will be in line if he steals this election."
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This has to be the most blatantly false statement I've heard in a while (well, since Sinper-gate anyway). How in the world can you, with a straight face, say that Obama is the one who is benefiting from billionaire fat cats? The vast majority of Obama's money comes in the form of $25 donations from regular Joes like me. Clinton is the one who's got all the rich connections (who, by the way, shamelessly tried to EXTORT and intimidate Pelosi and the DNC if she didn't say what they wanted her to say).

What is it with certain Clinton fanatics who accuse someone else of doing something WHILE Hillary herself is doing the exact same thing. Just like how she accused Obama of plagiarism MINUTES before she plagiarized her own husband and John Edwards. This woman is a shameless, pathetic disgrace and it KILLS me how much damage she is doing to the image of woman in politics.
No more teflon Bill. We've entered the era of, Velcro Hill.

What goes around, comes around.

Pulling for Obama '08
Typical Clinton...what is the old saying "if their lips are moving they must be lying"?  Someone should point out to Bill that she made this statement, about Bosnia, several times at different times of the day! I personally don't want another 4 years (or 8) of the Clinton's and all the drama that goes along with them, not to mention the lying.  These are people who are out for themselves...anyone who believes Hillary is out to help the country, lives in a dream world.  She is out to help the Clinton's and no one else.  Geez, 7 years and 100 million plus dollars (some of it from questionable sources).  And WHO contributed to the Clinton Library...why all the screacy?
Bravo President Clinton.  Your detractors as well as Hillary's (including a lot of trash within our party) can not stand the SUCCESS you had over the 8 years of your presidency.  Every time I go to the gas station I think of the glorious 90's.

Now, your enemies are disparaging your wife about stupidities like Tuzla because they can't and WON'T talk about actual bread and butter issues.

Oh sure they'll bring up Monica and use words they throw around like "integrity", "honesty", blah, blah, blah-because they can't counter the argument that the Clinton era was the period of GREATEST peace and prosperity in the history of this country.

So despite the mainstream press (which is so completely in the tank for Obama-I never even watch Matthews anymore and Olbermann has just about tried my patience) hating you and yours keep plugging on.!!!
I expect any day now that Bill and Hilly will put out the news that they are both graduates of West Point and secret four star generals (AND undercover agents for CIA!!)who managed to reach deep into their big pool of humility and turned down congressional medals of honor for saving Chelsea in Bosnia... while taking fire of course... Give me strength... They tell somany lies they believe their own lies!! but when will Obama graduate from kindergarten? God help us!!
I don't care how tired I may be at any given time, I would certainly remember someone shooting at me.  She lied and was caught and what we get is more lies to cover up the first lie.  Typical Clinton strategy if you ask me.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU CLINTON PEOPLE CAN NOT STOP LYING


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