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First thoughts: Now Bill 'misspoke,' twice

Posted: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:44 AM by Mark Murray
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Now Bill “misspoke” -- twice: Stumping in Indiana yesterday, Bill Clinton resurrected the Bosnia sniper fire story, per NBC/NJ’s Mike Memoli. “[T]here was a lot of fulminating because Hillary, one time late at night when she was exhausted, misstated, and immediately apologized for it, what happened to her in Bosnia in 1995,” he said. “Did y'all see all that? Oh, they blew it up.” He went on to say, “I think she was the first first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt to go into a combat zone. And you would’ve thought, you know, that she'd robbed a bank the way they carried on about this. And some of them when they're 60 they'll forget something when they're tired at 11:00 at night, too.” He said something similar at a later stop. How many things were wrong in his remarks? She didn’t just once misspeak -- at 11:00 pm -- about the Bosnia story; she did it numerous times, and not just at night. The trip, moreover, took place in ’96, not ’95. And Hillary wasn’t the first first lady since Eleanor Roosevelt to visit a combat zone; Pat Nixon went to Saigon in 1969, as Politico’s Ben Smith reminds us. What was Bill thinking? Bill may be one of those pols who believe you confront a negative, instead of ignoring it. And if you show that you don't believe a negative, then folks won't hold it against you as much -- at least those are the lessons Bill learned in '92 and '98, right? 

VIDEO: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd discusses Bill Clinton bringing up his wife's Bosnia story twice yesterday and Obama's choice to not distribute "street money" to get out the vote in Philadelphia.

*** What happens when press secretaries are away: By the way, just asking: If Bill had a traveling press person with him yesterday -- he didn't, in case you're wondering -- would the former president have made the mistake TWICE? Seriously, why was Bill Clinton traveling without a campaign press chaperone yesterday? In the words of Ted Knight in "Caddyshack": "Bil-ly, Billy, BillyBillyBilly, Billy, BillyBillyBilly, Billy." Seriously, what was the former president thinking when he decided to bring up the Bosnia story and then do so with the incorrect facts? Watching Bill on the trail makes folks wonder whether he could have held up to scrutiny in 1992 had YouTube and instant fact-checking existed back then. No one has seemed less prepared for the intense scrutiny of this campaign than Bill. He seems to forget that even when he's in rural Indiana, he's on the national stage. In '96, the Clinton campaign thought their local market strategy was innovative (it was), since it allowed him to talk to key media markets outside of the interference of the national press. Now, the national press is everywhere since local can become national in an instant. Today's Bill Clinton gaffe is going to revive this question: Has Bill Clinton helped HRC's bid more than he's hurt it? She may not have gotten this far without him, but is he preventing her from getting to the finish line?

*** Conflicts of interest: Bill resurrecting the Bosnia sniper story isn’t the only Bill story today that might be giving the Clinton campaign headaches. On TODAY this morning, NBC’s Lisa Myers looked at the money that Bill, his foundation, and his library have received -- from Frank Giustra, Vinod Gupta, the Saudi Royal Family, and others -- that might be potential conflicts of interest if Hillary ends up winning the White House. “Over the last seven years,” Myers said, “the Clintons have brought in huge amounts of money, earning more than $100 million to build their personal fortune and raising $500 million for the Clinton foundation and library. Critics complain there are many unanswered questions about who gave the money, and why.” More from Myers: “Sen. Clinton's campaign maintains she has provided more information than any other candidate. And the Clintons say IF she becomes president, they will reveal any foundation donors from that point on.”

*** Counting the delegates: Before the primaries began, there were 76 vacant superdelegate spots. Some of these so-called “add-ons” are now beginning to trickle out, filled by state parties after conventions or other processes. Four of these add-ons have said, in one way or another, that they will be backing Obama. We are also adding one to Clinton’s total -- Mona Mohib (DC) -- and subtracting one because one supporter is no longer on the DNC's list of delegates. Clinton's lead in the superdelegate count is now: 259-230. In the overall count, Obama leads by 135 (1,646-1,511). He has a 164 pledged-delegate lead (1,416-1,252). And we noted yesterday, the unease for both campaigns as they file delegate slates in California is high. The campaigns were removing names of people they thought might be harboring feelings for the other candidate. In fact, the AP reports today that amid complaints from those delegate, the Obama campaign reinstated about 850 people and the Clinton campaign about 50.

*** Street money: With Pennsylvania being an old machine politics state -- especially in Philly -- there's a history of providing walking-around money, something that is legal and something Obama's campaign has refused to do. As the Los Angeles Times reports, “Obama's posture confounds neighborhood political leaders sympathetic to his cause. They caution that if the senator from Illinois withholds money that gubernatorial, mayoral and presidential candidates have willingly paid out for decades, there could be defections to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York. As polls show the race in Pennsylvania getting tighter and tighter, does this story serve to downplay expectations a bit for Obama, even as Obama is flooding the state with ads? With the governor and the mayors of Philly and Pittsburgh behind Clinton -- and now Philly ward leaders possibly upset with Obama -- how does the Illinois senator end up winning Pennsylvania? By the way, this story isn't implying that the Clinton campaign is using walking around money; in fact, it's not clear they have the extra resources to do this if needed. But since the entire state party machinery is behind Clinton’s candidacy, there are other entities who could do this for her. 

*** Channeling Teddy Roosevelt? McCain starting to sound like a big-government Republican on the economy now. Why? Because he has to... Here he is yesterday in New York: "Let me make it clear that in these challenging times, I am committed to using all the resources of this government and great nation to create opportunity and make sure that every deserving American has a good job and can achieve their American dream.” This was basically a reversal of his policy statement a few weeks ago, when he called for very limited government intervention in the housing crisis. Politically, McCain may have no choice as to do this, but it's going to drive the Club for Growth types crazy. And if McCain loses, it will be yet another reason conservatives use to blame the party for not being conservative enough. This is the great risk of the McCain nomination as far as the party's concerned. Despite the evidence showing McCain may be the ONLY Republican to keep the party in the game in 2008, if he loses, conservatives will use McCain's ideology as the excuse and force an ideological food fight in '09, which could only end up being more destructive in the short term.

*** On the trail: Clinton spends her day campaigning in Philadelphia; McCain hits fundraisers in Irving and Lubbock, TX before attending a rally in Lubbock; and Obama stumps in Indiana, making stops in Columbus, Bloomington, and Terre Haute. Bill Clinton is also in Indiana, while Chelsea campaigns in Pennsylvania.

Countdown to Pennsylvania: 11 days
Countdown to North Carolina, Indiana: 25 days
Countdown to Election Day 2008: 207 days
Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 284 days
 
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It is hard to picture what the summer months will like after the Puerto Rico primary.  Will the nomination be sewed up by Obama?  Those of us supporting him hope so.  But what if there is no presumptive nominee?  I cannot take much more of these Hill said this posts (whether they are lies or not), Bill is here and said this posts, etc.  While all of this is occurring, McCain gets a free pass and starts solidifying his ground for the GE.  The one surefire way to end this and give us all a chance to breath, is for Pennsylvanians to wake-up and put down the Wicked Witch and give Obama a victory.
Why is Bill the bufoon still talking???
It seems to me that not knowing a Sunni from a Shia is a far more serious "misspeak" than what either Clinton has said. I wonder do you fact check every word spoken by Obama or Michelle Obama? What time was it really? Did that story happen as he stated...Someone get me the video!! If you ever wonder why you're accused of bias..its because of stuff like this...that NO ONE cares about....NO ONE!!
Nobody expects our leaders to be pure as the driven snow.  And I don't think Obama is perfect either.  HOWEVER, how can anybody continue to blindly march behind this couple when they so blatantly lie.  And it's not just about "some little thing."  The Bosnia issue was one of the 3 legs of Hillary's "foreign policy" stepstool.   It was HER choice for the backup of her foreign policy claims.   For all the "liberated women" out there, how do you keep marching behind a man and a woman who lie to you constantly?  They show you NO respect and yet you keep coming back for more.
Here we go again. Anyone ever count the anti Hillary subjects compared to anti Obama? Lets keep bringing up old news on her, while suppressing anything new on Obama.
Oh, so Hillary was tired and mispoke at 11:00 at night?  What is going to happen when she is 61 and that darn phone rings at 3:00?  Call down a nuclear strike against the Russians?  Bill is such a gas bag--and just think, HE gets $800,000 a speach for such juck.  Really and puuleeze!
Seriously, why is Bill even making speeches?

When this campaign started, I honestly thought that one of the main reasons that Hillary would walk away with the nomination was because of her husband.  I didn't like that fact because I don't believe that passing the presidency back-and-forth between two families is a good idea - regardless of credentials.

However, I now see that Bill Clinton actually has been HURTING Hillary's bid for the White House.  I know that it must be difficult to tell him to pipe down, but someone needs to get him to take a vacation or something.

Re-hashing a controversy that was seemingly done is just about the dumbest thing that a candidate (or their surrogate) can do.  Bill Clinton has done just that.  Now we are all talking about Bosnia again.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
I have finally accepted the fact that many of Senator Clinton's supporters do not care what she or her husband do or say, they are voting for her anyway . . . and that is their right.

But please stop telling me that I am the one living in fairyland - it seems that "the Clintons" are not responsible for anything that they have ever done unless it worked out well . . . my "Clinton exhaustion" is growing to an unmanageable level . . . they lie so often that we no longer expect the truth . . . I can't imagine 4 - 8 more years of their pained and selective memories . . .

Why do so many people want to make excuses for them after all these years? How have they made America better?
Wrong Elliott.  Millions of Americans care.  That is why Obama is beating Clinton.  Hillary is trying to lie her way into the White House.  I hope the American people do not let her get away with it.

By the way, are you concerned about this alleged relationship that Obama has with terrorist William Ayers?  I have seen many Hillary supporters express concern about that.  I find that interesting, since it was Bill Clinton who pardoned those four FALN terrorists as his term was winding down.





Hillary was merely trying to paint a verbal picture of what the atmosphere in Bosnia was like. The Secret Service moved her up to the bullet proof area of the plane when it landed, she and Wesley Clark had to keep their bullet proof vests within arms reacg at all times, and US Apache Helicopters accompanied them everywhere they went.
There's a difference between exagerating and lying. Hillary did not cross that line.
But Obama LIES all the time and gets away with it.
Sure hope the good people of Pennsylvania send Dumbo Ears back to Cooke County, where he and his friend Tony Rezko can try to bilk more money out of the public at large.
I am finally happy about this.  This is one of the most embarrassing aspects of the Philadelphia election system.  Elections are legally bought in Philadelphia.  They give out money and food to people for votes.  All Legal.
Brother Odd,  another cool-aid drinker.   Newsflash:  A "fair and balanced" press does not mean a press that sits there and says, "ok, we've had one negative HIllary story so we're going to ignore the fact that her husband is LYING about her lies and make up something negative about Obama."   The reason there are so many "negative" (your word) stories about Hillary is that she is running a dysfunctional and dishonest campaign.  Should the press just ignore that?
Does Bill think 60 is too old to be president?  The Pres. needs to be alert for those 3am phone calls.

Go Obama
Obama is just another politician who consistently lies:

1.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

2.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

3.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.

4.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

5.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

6.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

7.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

8.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

9.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

10.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.

11.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

12.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
How can Hillary supporters continue to turn a blind eye toward these two? How can WOMAN supporters not see through the lies and deceit she spews? How can you JUSTIFY that Bill made $800,000 giving speeches for outsourcing American jobs to Columbia and that money is in a JOINT bank account? How can you continue to let Hillary make a fool out of ALL of you? Enough is enough. Is THIS the type of people we should escort BACK into the White House? I think not.
Obama '08.
Ok MSNBC

Where's the story about Hillary Clinton picking up 3 superdelegates in the last 36 hours?

Where's the story about Obama's "Street Money" and the fact that it is going to cost him at least 3 o 4 points in PA?

Come on Chuck, get with the program.
IT'S ALL ABOUT WINNING FOR HILLARY CLINTON ...ANYTHING GOES . IF SHE PERSISTS
LIKELY SHE WILL DESTROY ANY HOPES OF A DEMOCRAT
WINNING THE WHITE HOUSE THIS ELECTION .
THIS WOMAN COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN . SHE GIVES CLUE AFTER CLUE ON WHAT REALLY DRIVES HER AMBITION BUT SO MANY FOLKS CHOOSE TO NOT SEE IT . I'D RATHER HAVE 8 MORE YEARS OF BEING BUSH-WACKED THAN 4 YEARS WITH HILLARY .
THE CLINTONS 'FUNNY MONEY' REMAINS A SECRET.
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THE ACCUSATION:
NBC’s Lisa Myers looked at the money that Bill, his foundation, and his library have received -- from Frank Giustra, Vinod Gupta, the Saudi Royal Family, and others -- that might be potential conflicts of interest if Hillary ends up winning the White House.

HILLARY'S RESPONSE:
...the Clintons say IF she becomes president, they will reveal any foundation donors from that point on.”
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WE NEED THIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION REVEALED NOW --- SO WE CAN MAKE AN INTELLIGENT DECISION BEFORE VOTING.
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Bill is crazy plain and simple. The Clinton's are liars. How can Bill lie blatantly about something that can easily be fact checked and than pretend as though it were totally true. How can Hillary claim that her husband getting paid $800, 0000 by the Columbians is not a conflict of interest. BS. Even if she does disagree with CAFTA she does not disagree with getting the money. that kind of money can make a person change their ideals.
I truley believe that Hillary is a strong woman and can hold her own against Bill, but it is not Bill that is jsut pressuing her. It is Bill the Columbian government, Penn, Wolfson and 800, 000 in the bank account.
take this example. If I am completely against using drugs . I just say no. But i become involved with someone who is part of the drug trade. At first i do not know that is what he does. He showers me with gifts a lavish life style and eventually I find out. If I stay with him b/c of the lifestyle than I am condoning his illegal activities. Therefore Hillary must condone the actions her husband is taking. And she has stated that she opposes CAFTA only b/c of the labor conditions, not b/c Americans will lose thier jobs....something to ponder
Here we go again. Anyone ever count the anti Hillary subjects compared to anti Obama? Lets keep bringing up old news on her, while suppressing anything new on Obama.
Brother Odd (Sent Friday, April 11, 2008 10:06 AM)

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But this isn't old news being dredged up by the media.  Bill Clinton brought it up and he was not prompted to do so...he did his own hatchet job on this story.

The Comedy of Errors here is that in the Clinton Campaign's attempts to make this story work for them they've only made it worse.
Haven't any of you Hillary defenders seen the video or pictures of her arrival in Bosnia? The issue isn't the plane, it's the welcoming ceremony at the airport. Her campaign recollection of the event has Hillary describing her recollection as they landed in sniper fire and ran with their heads down. Unfortunately, that isn't even close to the actual happenings.

And what is this Slick Willie quote yesterday:
"Whatever the rules are, we'll suit up and play, but we should all be under the same set of rules."

Willie, I guess you forgot about Michigan and Florida. Oh, and the nomination is by delegate, not popular vote, ex-presidential (you) decree, or, whereever did this come from, electoral college possibilities.

Willie, go back to work with Ron Burkle and leave us alone. If you keep this up, the Democrats won't even be able to beat Bush. And he isn't on the ballot.
I don't think the press needs to "make up" anything negative on Obama. There is plenty there, it is just not time yet for them to bring it out. There all about ratings. If its Mccain and Obama they will bring out racial issues in full force.
More anti-Clinton drivel by Chuck Todd and MSNBC.

Obama is a weak candidate against McCain. The Marist Poll has McCain ahead of Obama in New York. New York of all places.

Obama's problem is that the mantle of Democratic nominee and the Denver covention will not strengthen him. It will not bless him with "gravitas". He's becoming the nominee on the strength of the black vote.

Because of Obama's glaring inexperience and Rev. Wright, Obama is just another black guy running for President.
Is Bill citing that due to Hillary's age being 60, that we should be sympathetic to her bouts of forgetfulness?  Then I surmise--this is just one more reason of many, why Hillary will not be ready on day one or any other day, as Commander in Chief.  

By the way, nice touch writing off $10,000,000 to your own foundation.  Typical Clinton shiftiness.    
As one who voted for Bill Clinton twice and a year ago would have told you I liked Hillary and thought she'd make a fine President, this has gotten well, just kind of sad. Its like they're trying to destroy themselves. I sure don't want to see more of their nonsense coming from the WH.
Obama '08
Where's the story about Obama's "Street Money" and the fact that it is going to cost him at least 3 o 4 points in PA?

Come on Chuck, get with the program.
Get with the program (Sent Friday, April 11, 2008 10:19 AM)

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Dude, it's right here in front of you!

Try reading next time (if you can)!
http://www.thevaneljournal.com

This is a repugnant prostitution of the democratic process and I hope he stands his ground, and if that means taking a loss in PA, so be it.

Way to go Sen. Obama!
Bill said Hillary 'forgets' because she is over 60? Hillary told that same story over and over again, surely at some point she would have gotten it right if it was just a case of being tired. I'm over 60 and I'm sure I would remember if I was shot at. No, this dog doesn't bark. Hillary is dishonest and has been proven to lack integrity. Guess we are supposed to forget Bill was impeached too.
Bill said Hillary 'forgets' because she is over 60? Hillary told that same story over and over again, surely at some point she would have gotten it right if it was just a case of being tired. I'm over 60 and I'm sure I would remember if I was shot at. No, this dog doesn't bark. Hillary is dishonest and has been proven to lack integrity. Guess we are supposed to forget Bill was impeached too.
"Me thinks thou dost protest to much." The lame attempt to get some "poor baby" attention was wrong in the first place. The added attempts to make a lie seem like some type of truth is a bush tactic. Let it alone, people will forget by next week. Ask gwb.
Bill Clinton has become a certifiable Looney Tune.
Hillary was merely trying to paint a verbal picture of what the atmosphere in Bosnia was like. The Secret Service moved her up to the bullet proof area of the plane when it landed, she and Wesley Clark had to keep their bullet proof vests within arms reacg at all times, and US Apache Helicopters accompanied them everywhere they went.
There's a difference between exagerating and lying. Hillary did not cross that line.
But Obama LIES all the time and gets away with it.
Sure hope the good people of Pennsylvania send Dumbo Ears back to Cooke County, where he and his friend Tony Rezko can try to bilk more money out of the public at large.
Obama is a lying hair-ball (Sent Friday, April 11, 2008 10:12 AM)
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It seems like HRC supporters keep getting dumber by the minute.

If you think that she "didn't cross the line" when LYING about "ducking her head and running to the car"  because sniper bullets were flying at her head, then JOKING about it on Leno, then maybe you would like to ask the soldiers that are REALLY under sniper fire if they think that is a funny, cute thing to joke about.

Face the facts.   Your candidate, HRC, is a LIAR.  She is married to Bill Clinton, a LOBBYIST that LIES.

Why should we TRUST someone that thinks it is OKAY to LIE under oath, and then continue to LIE?

Why is it okay to TRUST someone that takes money from LOBBYIST and then LIES and says that she doesn't when we ALL know that she does, and is MARRIED to one?

HRC has already lost this election and she is just a sore loser.


And by the way, funny that you bring up Rezko.  I guess you have forgotten about Norman Hsu, Peter Paul, and the NUMEROUS OTHER SCANDALS that the CLintons are always involved in.


Get a life.



More delegates.
More votes.
More states.


Obama 08
Ron,TX, I don't often agree with you, but that was a great post (10:19). Thats the real Obama. I drink beer not kool aid.
Brother Odd mysticall proclaims/ "I don't think the press needs to "make up" anything negative on Obama. There is plenty there, it is just not time yet for them to bring it out."

 please  
RE:  *** Now Bill “misspoke” -- twice:
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The 'two-fer' Clintons are pathetic liars.
They cannot tell the "truth from fantasy."
Hillary lies and Bill believes it.
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I have a real problem with all the "misspoke" double speak.  I expect it of the candidates and their supporters, but I do not expect it of the media.

Hillary LIED.  Use the word - LIE.

Now Bill has LIED (again)to muddy up the 1st LIE.

The man LIED as President and was impeached.  

His wife LIES and gets a pass after making a joke.

He LIES and the conversation centers on everything

but the LIES.  

Why isn't this being treated as a legal/civil issue?

Have we sunk so low that a LIE passes while the

lemmings snuffle on about tactics/handlers/negatives?


She has 35 years of this sort of experience!
I would like him to explain his last comment about the stealing cars???
This is why the Clintons should never step foot back into the White House... their thought process is what keeps America down.
Does the obama camp and their media supporters REALLY think following Bill Clinton around with video cameras and try a catch a " GOTHA " moment is really going to help obam win in Pennsylvania and the other states.
So he brought up the bosnia story while obama is still answering questions about his mentor and confidant JEREMIAH WRIGHT.... did the media focus on the JEREMIAH WRIGHT issue, no, because their invested interest is to see Hillary lose to the " RACE BAITER " barack obama.

The media and First Read is hammering the Clintons on where there speaking fees come from and who donates to their Library Foundation... but why aren't the media and First Read hammering barack ? obama on HOW MUCH HE GOT PAID SPEAKING AT FUNDRAISERS FOR HAMAS IN THE 1990s and WHO CONTRIBUTED TO HIS WOODS FOUNDATION WHILE HE WAS A DIRECTOR ALONG SIDE " TERRORIST WILLIAM AYERS.

I WONDER WHAT THE JEWISH VOTERS WILL THINK OF BARACK OBAMA  SUPPORTERS LIKE, BRZEZINSKI….  LEE HAMILTON…….  JIMMY CARTER AND OTHERS WANTING TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HAMAS LEADERS.  ALL THESE OBAMA ADVISER AND SUPPORTERS ALL SENT A LETTER TO PRESIDENT BUSH URGING HIM TO MEET WITH THE HAMAS LEADERS.

1996...1996... That’s how far back  MSNBC and the far left wing New York Times  went back and dug  deep into the basement and come up with another SLIME story against Hillary. When will you guys learn…..  THE SMART WELL INFORMED VOTERS knows who the BIAS and CORRUPT players are in this political race, so keep trashing  and diminish the profession of  journalism.  

ASSOCIATE PRESS / IPSOS POLL  SHOWS HILLARY 48 - MCCAIN 45.  SAME POLL SHOWS  OBAMA 45 MCCAIN 45. ………..Oh … this is not good for obama……..  so MSNBC and First Read won’t tell you these numbers.

.....PREDICTIONS HILLARY WILL ROUT OBAMA IN DOUBLE DIGITS IN PENNSYLVANIA DESPITE THE MEDIA AND CHRIS MATTHEWS HELP AND THE 5 TO 1 OUTSPENDING OF OBAMA TO HILLARY


 
Bill,

It's called: The supersonic, electronic, boomerang!

Don't whine. Hillary threw it. Remember the U-shaped kitchen sink?

As an Obama supporter, I LOVE Bill Clinton out stumping! He's brought in MORE voters for Obama than Hillary can even imagine! Keep it up Bill....you rock!
The Big News isn't Clinton...its McCain!  He's a flipp flopping freak who caters to the neo-cons when put to the wall. A Maverick in the Senate? Please!  He's voted more than 99% of the time with the republican senate leadership.  And he's a ticking time bomb with that temper of his.  He can't keep his Shiites from his Sunnis from his Kurds straight.  He thinks we should be in Iraq for hundreds of years, fighting and refereeing that country's century's old secterian war.  He cheated on his first wife with his second wife, and I am sure he cheated on his second wife with that lobbiest.  He is not a war hero because he didn't do anything great in a time of war except get captured by Vietnamese.  And for all his years in the Senate, what has he actually done worthwhile?  Campaign finance reform?  Whatever. That doesn't put more money in my pocket, clean up the environment, or make us safe from terrorists.  He is anything but moderate on social issues - he's anti gay, anti abortion, anti civil rights. He's ready to hand over our country to illegal aliens.  The only thing he doesn't like - torture, but now he's got to cater to the neo-cons, so  I am sure he'll be ok with some kind of torture.  

McCain = 4 more Years of Bush.

Democrats, rally behind whoever our nominee is and vote for him or her. We are way better off with Obama or Hillary than McWar.  
I think it is pathetic Obama lies all the time and everyone turns there face. Well if he should steal this and thats what it would be than what happens if Hillarys people turn there face. Obama sat in Wrights church right??Hillary was a first lady only one of two that went to a war zone and gets didly for it.She was supporting the troops as she went with others for them. It is so not right the press on this.I have heard from a source on Fox that she went into bagdad under these conditions but of course no one would look into that. He said his plane corkscrewed in and there was fire. He met her first time in 03 at a palace of Hussiens(the Iraq one) maybe this is what she was thinking. He said he was sure she prob. had same landing as him. Bob Beckle sat right there with him as he told this.Iam just saying what i heard and no one has mentioned it since.As usual. I wish someone could find out. What a blast if this is what she was remembering but there would be no apolagy like the hospital story that ended up true.Didnt hear the smear machine acknowledge it. Sad and pathetic what Obama and his lemmings will do.
The walking around money is fascinating.

Philadelphians expect it, and will hold grudges against any politician not buying their vote.

Obama has the money but won't do it.

Clinton would do it but doesn't have the money.

So Pennsylvania comes down to whether Rendell can illegally scrounge up enough cash for what, other than being an illegal contribution to the Clinton campaign, would be a legal though enethical practice of paying people for their support.
Can we just call it what it is: Lies, lies and more lies. I love how we now use the word "misspeak." lol. Euphemism of all eupemisms.
Truth and honor mean nothing the Clintons,  they cannot be believed and the ease with which they lie is frightening. I believe Bill was disbarred,, but to paraphrase Chelsea, Hill would be a better liar. Because she is a better actor. Send these people to Hollywood. They can do a soap opera on tv rather in the White House . Aat least on TV, I can switch chann
I've come to believe Bill is 'becoming' such a negative blight on Hillary's campaign so that all the women will feel sorry for her to have put up with such a bumbling idiot, through his affairs and sexual harassment of women, and his 'missteps' during the primary. Doesn't she just deserve the Presidency? As a woman, I say 'heck NO'! (Guess that must be the misogyny in me Elton or maybe like many of us feel, she should have kicked the joker out long ago. It's a judgment thing.)
You"journalists"[ and I use the term loosely in reference to MSNBC ]just do not get it.Keep piling on Hillary. You will earn her the sympathy vote of multitudes of women.Oh yeah how about a lenghty article on Black Liberation Theology ,a tenet of Wright and his church ,including Obama.How about rehashing the Selma story and Kennedy story Of Obama. While you are at it, better define what St. Obama meant by The "typical white person" remark. Also grill his wife on her many racist remarks or find out how and why her salary went up right after Obama became a Senator
MK,MO read some post before and you might get my point.
Why is everyone making up excuses for why Obama is going to do lousey in PA?
First I heard Chris Matthews this morning trying to convince everyone how well Hillary is doing and how she is going to win this by more that the polls are reflecting.
Then Chuck Todd says Obama will lose 3 or 4 points because he is not giving away walking around money.
Are we looking at a race that will be fixed....and you people are going to explain it away by STUPID EXCUSES.
I hope the watchdogs will be out in full force up there.
Bloomberg wrote an article about the suspected FRAUD that had taken place in NY.
Funny how no one bothered to cover that.
THIS SMELLS LIKE BUSH AND DIEBOLD ALL OVER AGAIN


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