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Obama: Public finance system 'creaky'

Posted: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:08 AM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC/NJ’s Aswini Anburajan
Obama labeled the public financing system as "creaky" in a press conference today, saying that the number of people opting into the system has dropped dramatically compared to those individuals who are giving money over the Internet.

"I think that it is creaky,” he said, “and needs to be reformed if it's going to work.”

He added, "We know that the check-off system has been declining in participation, and as a consequence, the amount of money raised through the public financing system may be substantially lower than the amount of money that can be raised through small donations over the Internet, which presents candidates, then, with some pretty tough decisions in terms of how they want to move forward if they want to compete in as many states as possible."

At a fundraiser in Washington, D.C., this week, Obama said the small donations to his campaign had created a "parallel public financing system," a comment that was interpreted as a potential rationale for him to opt out of the public financing system should he become the nominee. Today he said that the comments were not intended to be taken in that way.

"Really what I was trying to suggest is that through the Internet and the enthusiasm of this campaign,” he said, “we've created a model for being able to compete at the highest levels of politics without being dependent on big-moneyed interests. And I think that's a real positive.”

But the lingering question is whether Obama, will make good on his pledge to accept public funds. At the start of his presidential campaign he had said that he would opt into the public financing system, but since his campaign has proven the potency of the Internet to raise millions of dollars, his position has appeared to shift. Obama has said if he were to win the nomination, he would then talk with Republican nominee McCain on a possible solution.

"My position on public financing continues to be the same as I talked about a month and a half ago or two months ago when this first came up," Obama said of his position today. "I would like to see a system preserved, and I intend, if I am the nominee, to have conversations with Sen. McCain about how to move forward in a way that doesn't allow third parties to overwhelm the system."

The ability of either candidate to limit third-party groups remains circumspect. Obama said he was "committed" to talking to McCain about the issue, but acknowledged that there may be little he or McCain could do.

"Whether or not we can pull it off,” he said, “I don't know.”

Since Obama's position has seemingly shifted on whether he will take public funds or not, he has opened himself up to criticism from Republicans and editorial boards.

A Wall Street Journal editorial today hit Obama on his acceptance of money from pharmaceutical executives, saying that he had received more donations from that industry’s firms than any other candidate, for example. A second story in the Washington Post detailed how Obama has courted bundlers, some of whom have vested political interests that could be at odds with the senator's positions.

Asked about the role of bundlers in his campaign today, Obama said their main job was raising money not making policy.

"They are very active, though they don't interact much with me,” he said. “They interact mostly with each other. They are not as a general rule part of my day-to-day policy or advisory committee, although there are some people who have raised money for me who are also prominent business leaders. And so, for example, if we were putting forward a economic plan, and there was some expertise there, we might tap into it. But they're not as a general rule part of our policy making apparatus, or determining the course of the campaign. Their focus is on raising money.”

And does this show the rigors of the campaign trail? Obama was asked why he had not checked the box to donate three dollars to the public financing system on his own tax returns.

"You know, I have always checked off $3 in the past, so I'm going to have to talk to my accountant," he said. "That may have been an oversight or a mistake. In all my previous years, I have, so I should find out what's going on there. This may be a situation where my accountant, through oversight, didn't do it."

*** UPDATE *** The McCain campaign responds on public financing: “We will always welcome an open discussion with Barack Obama, but he has clearly committed to public financing in the general election should he win his Party’s nomination, and we expect him to keep his word. Any hedging or clever language from Senator Obama seems more like something you would read in a predatory home-loan, not the ‘Audacity of Hope.’” -- Tucker Bounds, John McCain 2008

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As report properly by keith olderman Obama said he would explore the concept.  He did not make a commitmnent and would not be breaking pleadge if he did.

All of the small donors to the campign want to be able to particiate and yes answer the call on a dime if he needs us.  We will run a full page ad in support of him running his own campign if need be.
He never pledged to opt out no matter what.

He pledged to sit down and talk with the other candidate and see if they can work out the details.

I don't know why the media keeps twisting and strangling the exact quote...


That aside, Obama has received more than 1.3 million donations to date.  If that's not public financing, I don't know what is.  The point of public financing was originally to keep corporate interests at bay, because those tended to be the vast majority of donations - lobbyists, pacs, big corporate donors, etc.  The point was not so that a Republican with horrid fundraising skills could try to tie the hands of the biggest grass roots politician in recent history.
He is practically financed by the public ! By individuals like me who can give $25 every other Friday like today !

OBAMA'08
Public Financing is never going to be a way to reform campaign financing.  527's or political parties will never allow rules stopping them from running ads.  Thus Public Financing is, and always has been, a way for candidates to have enough money to compete if they can't raise the money on their own.  Trying to say otherwise is just foolish.

The 527's and RNC will be spending millions upon millions, it defeats the entire ideal McCain is harping about.  After Gore and Kerry, Obama would be crazy to restrict himself against McCain.

Clinton as well.  She'd be crazy as well to even think of public financing if she got the nomination.
Obama, understates the truth. He has reinvented how to raise money. How to run a campaign that is of the people. Still, my only concern is how do you know who is truly giving the money. However, it is a good of a blind system as we have had in a long time.

Obama will win the presidency of the United States. He is the most honest politician I have seen from my generation. He is for us.
At the beginning, public financing sounds like a good thing. However, if people actually learn what it is, then they will start to see that its not that great. Public financing is basically using tax payer money and giving a specific amount to each of the candidate to spend on their campaign. I would rather give my money to the candidate of my choice rather than pay taxes so that the government can distribute that money to both parties.
We should be the one to finance a campaign through donations. That should be the right way to do things. Also, Obama has given back donations from individuals because they were registered lobbyist. There was an article in the daily kos from the person whos donation got rejected. I think that walking the walk.
Obama shouldn't take public financing and announce it shortly after May 6th so the media can go crazy and it'll die out by the convention.  The reality is that stories like these are too complicated of the average person to understand.  It's like Whitewater, Valerie Plame and Rezko.  

It bruises the candidate short-term, but it won't actually damage them.  I mean people who are going to vote for Obama won't vote for them over this issue.

Plus Obama's easy answer is that my campaign is already funded by the people by having over one million donors.  So McCain couldn't paint him out to be a special interest candidate.  Just one that is bending the campaign finance rules in his favor with his large non-special interest donor base.  
Obama would be the worst person in the world if he hedges on his already contraversial commitment(?) to public financing.  Ha, be you guys there.


Stop it
I would rather give my money (all of $50 every 3 weeks or so) directly to a candidates website.  That way I know my candidate gets it and it doesn't go through this big gov't bureaucracy to get to the candidate.  This is the fairest way to do it.....times have changed given the internet and grassroots participation!!
This is a non-issue until the Democrats pick their nominee.  Let it go gang.

After Obama is the Democratic nominee for president, then we can debate public financing.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
It would be great to see a whole new system in place. One that allows anyone who wants to donate to do so on their own for particular candidates without having to do it by checking a box at tax time. I never feel generous at tax time and I'm leery of giving money that way because I can't choose who the candidate to receive it might be.

I'd love to see a new system where the Internet is used so the general public can support a particular candidate whenever they want during the general election. Let the limit be no more than $100 per donor, no matter how wealthy they are, for the presidential candidate of their choice.
OMG!!


Obamatics as ususal, might tap into it, for the prominate business leaders who "give him money" yes South Side Chicago the most honest politican, in the world ever in he history of anything.  And he will be the next president because Obamaphiles and AA's love him and Bobby Rush, ex South Side Chicago Black Panther, leader.  The one of whom Obama took his job... Ah those South Siders, Bobby Rush-(president of black panthers chicago chapter), Rev Wright, Michelle Obama and the rest.... Gosh how they love this country.  
Why does this keep returning as an issue?  Why would he accept that and have the RNC and the 527's spend their money filling the airways with lies?  

Obama should go ahead and tell them to stuff it and move on!  My grandmother once told me that I was probably born at night, but not last night, so making this a issue is not; it's foolish!  

Similar to FRANK IN MISSOURI, it is my donation day as well.  So Frank I am matching your $25 donation.  
If he has a better model then I don't think he needs public funding either. There is no shame in not going that route if you are funded by small donors. Save it for the next race. It's funny how he pivoted on that $3 question...nobody that I know checks it. I doubt he cared in the first place and he never told his accountant to do so.
He is practically financed by the public ! By individuals like me who can give $25 every other Friday like today !

OBAMA'08
Frank, Missouri (Sent Friday, April 11, 2008 11:18 AM)

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You post and the overall implication that Obama's campaign is free of large contributors, is false.  Obama gets "bundled" contributions from employees of the large oil companies, and then says "I don't get money from oil companies."  He's a politician like the rest of them...he's not the pure saint he's being made out to be.  But, that doesn't mean he should be elected president if he gets the nomination.
I agree with "Pajama" person, let's get this nomination wrapped up them worry about public financing.

I will say that Obama practically has a public financing system now. I have donated a bit myself. All options should be explored but again after the nomination is set.

Hopefully Obama will win in Pennsylvania (get within single digits) and we can get on with beating McCain.

http://laststopmidwest.blogspot.com
I am more afraid of the Obama supporters than Obama.  The hatred that is written on MSNBC and CNN under the comment areas are very frightening.  I am a Hillary support now because I am so upset by the apparent Obama supports hatefull words.  Many of my friends will not vote for him because of his supporters hatred in the comments sections.  Wow must be kids, because only kids would should that way.
yeah he said should he be the nominee...he would sit down with the Rep. nominee and hash it out.  'Til that happens I guess it's a mute point, and the press can let it go.
Just like the Clinton foundation donors, and the Clintons library donors, will be given when hillary is the President, that is what she has said.  And the media accepts that, no investigations, no comments by pundits, no discussions.
The media can give the same courtesy to Obama on campaign money as was given to Clinton on donor lists. IF he is the nominee, then the media can attack him or commend him.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander...
What is good for the kettle is good for the pot....
you get the idea....
what is good for the minority woman...
is good for the minority black!
As report properly by keith olderman Obama said he would explore the concept.  He did not make a commitmnent and would not be breaking pleadge if he did.

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I am sorry but he did make a pledge last year. Do some research and youl'' find out he said he would work with the republican nominee and come to an agreement on financing.

STOP BEING BLIND SHEEP
“Seventy-nine ‘bundlers,’ five of them billionaires, have tapped their personal networks to raise at least $200,000 each. They have helped the campaign recruit more than 27,000 donors to write checks for $2,300, the maximum allowed. Donors who have given more than $200 account for about half of Obama's total haul, which stands at nearly $240 million.”


Love how Obama likes to as we say half speak the truth. The public is financing his presidential run just not at the rate he wants you to think. He is getting the same number of big donors as everyone else.  He had 5 BILLIONAIRES raise almost half his money with about 200,000 dollars apiece. While this is a total that they have obtained (not individual contributions) Obamas run is not totaly funded by the little guy like he wants you to believe.
Widespread private financing does not equal public financing.  There is a huge philosophical difference between the two, and Obama surely knows this.  I find his comments regarding third parties particularly troubling.  The Dems and GOP appear to feel entitled to being the only relevant actors on the national stage, at a time when more and more individuals are dissatisfied with both parties.  I will be very disappointed if Obama opts out of public financing.
Here are the facts about Obama and the Big Oil companies.  Could we have some honesty please, Sen. Obama?  and MSNBC could you start covering the full story instead of half-truths?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_oil_spill.html
My fellow Obama supporters: Senator Obama surely meant to say he would take the federal funds.  He did not know his increadable fund raising organization was going to work as well as it did.

He should just say, "I have decided to forgo federal funds."  and move on.  We have taken greater hits, and honesty seems to work for the Senator.

It's not fair!  The majority of my supporters don't know how that internet thing works!
Rather than donate ones hard earned money to a political candidate, take your family out to dinner, buy a new CD or DVD, go bowling, whatever.  These people running for office could give a rats ass about you or I.  They will however take your money in a heartbeat.  Good lord people, wise up.  Let the process sort itself out, save your money for the eventual nominee's and then contribute if you must.  
Faulting Senator Obama, for opting out of public financing, is akin to faulting a thirsty man on foot in the desert, given rationed water only because he promised to abide by the rules of rationing forever, while 300 miles from civilization. I forgive him. I love him. I want him to enjoy his nice cold glass of Kool-aid, we're serving this side of the desert.
Who CARES if he accepts public financing the way it is? He is redefining the term "public financing" his campaign is financed by the public. THAT IS A GOOD THING.
I sure will be glad when it is time to vote again . . . we are REALLY starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel for "news" . . .

P.S. when Senator Obama "mispeaks", he owns up to it . . . what more could you ask?
Isn't public financing what he's getting right now?
who cares. the most important thing is the democrats getting together again before the convention and kicking the republicans butts. an obama/clinton ticket would be just fine. whatever we need to win.neither obama or clinton can win without each other at this point.1/4 of obama supporters won't support hillary if she wins and a whopping 1/3 of clinton supporters won't vote for obama. we must find a way to get together.
Here's the fact about campaign finance reform:  Congress SAT ON ITS HANDS for 20 years.  So, the people, to the tune of 1.3 million of us, decided we'd create finance reform for ourselves.  If McBush can't outraise us, too bad for him.
I am more afraid of the Obama supporters than Obama.  The hatred that is written on MSNBC and CNN under the comment areas are very frightening.  I am a Hillary support now because I am so upset by the apparent Obama supports hatefull words.  Many of my friends will not vote for him because of his supporters hatred in the comments sections.  Wow must be kids, because only kids would should that way.
Kath Cas Palm Bay Fl (Sent Friday, April 11, 2008 11:33 AM)

if you are upset because of what some blogger posts you should seek professional help, if you are upset because bill and hillary keep getting caught being deceptive, lying and playing their typical gutter type politics, too bad.


I believe we all know which category you fall into
It seems clear that the kind of campaign fundraising that Senator Obama has received is very public indeed.  Well over a million individuals giving small donations over the internet was not something anticipated by the old "public finance" structure.  Why should Senator Obama have his hands tied by a statement he made what seems "ages" ago that he would  "look at" the idea of public financing.  Looks like McCain and Clinton interests just trying to silence the public who has so enthusiastically supported Senator Obama.
what??? Obama made a mistake will this be news for a month??? He didnt check the box but says he always did.???What is this- also his bundlers get him money now so they have a say later does he think we were born yesterday with him saying they arent lobbying him now??The globe said in 07 that lobbyists praised Obama for key changes to health care bill that "were favorable to the insurers"He will do what for our health care?? He doesnt take lobbyists money?? He has taken pharasudicle and insurers money for years.That must be about the time he signed the questioneer saying he was against all guns manufacturing or owning them ,right?He would not want his girls to be punished by haveing a child if they made a mistake?? That was a new one in Pa.What a man!!!
no obama top or bottom I hope Hillary isnt that foolish.
Get rid of 527's--they should be illegal during election time.

Only then would anyone every consider the system to be fair and non-bias.

Common Sense
Is there not a story about how he is not only getting money from the ground up as he calls it off the internet but BIG MONEY DONORS are also giving to his campaign and also what they call bundlers. So he is a liar once again
It's pretty simple.  He'll take the route that provides him with the most money.  He's a politician.  McCain will use the same approach.  If the public money is more, he'll take it.

For Obama, the best thing would be for you guys to slack off in your contributions so he can make the "honorable" choice.  After all, pledge or not, the implication has always been that public financing is more "honorable".  In politics, implication is just as good as fact.

So, back off, or send the money to McCain and put HIM in the awkward position.
Lets see first we here that Obama is opting out of public financing because all the "small donors" want a voice. today we here well there are large (quite large) donors and bundlers.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM..................
interesting
Some of the "bundlers" I knew about before . . . others, no.

I remember the "pledge" they keep bringing up . . . it was multiple choice.  Obama checked "yes", and then wrote a paragraph on the bottom that said that if he was the nominee, he would talk with the Republican nominee and hopefully they'd both take public financing.

One thing that would make me feel better would be if Obama would state that he's not going to let Ken Griffin influence his policy on taxes.  Personally, I think that we are all pretty sick and tired of the "I won't work as hard" argument for lower taxes for billionaires.  There is a point past which one has made enough money to devote their work to the philanthropic endeavor of creating good schools, roads
hospitals etc. for all.  It's the "for all" part of "liberty and justice for all".

Meanwhile, I'll keep giving money for the Primary.  Most of the money comes from "us", and I'd like for that to continue.
It is wise and fine for Senator Obama to make adjustments in his decisions based on facts.  If Bush were willing to make adjustments based on facts, we wouldn't be in the situation today we have with a failing economy.  "Stay the course" without giving consideration to new developments is the lazy man's answer.  How could Senator Obama have foreseen the amount of money he can generate on the web?  He couldn't, but now with this new information, he is entitled to make an adjustment in his decision-making with regards to public financing.
I am an Obama supporter and have contributed to his campaign.  As an advocate of "transparency" Barack needs to identify his bundlers online and include the dollar amount, industry, and the names of his contributors.  And while it is true that millions of us have contributed, I would still like to know what percentage of the total amount was from small contributors like me.
I have given to the DNC yearly in the past, but not this ...and they keep calling.  I tell them - OBAMA gets my money till he is the nominee.  I have donated to him three times since January 08.  I know the DNC is broke, but Obama and Moveon.org get my money till they crown him, and I tell them that with every email, every phone call.  Superdelegates...you listening?
Obama does have public financing.  I'm part of the public and for the first time in my life, I'm donating to a political campaign.
Barack's motto: "I'm asking you to believe not only in my ability to change Washington.  I'm asking you to believe in yours."  Americans have got to get involved, not just in the election; but, in the everyday working of our government if we want to get it back to where it should be.  
Republican pukes want to tie down his money aka ability to fight off their scuriless accusations by tying his hands behind his back.  The pennys offered by federal dollars wouldn't buy a commercial for :30 in CA or FL.  

With his huge cash reserves, he's able to make commercials which would rebut their false claims and that is what they don't want!!!
Kath Cas palm beach Fl I think you and your friends are decieved if you just go through and look at all of the negative and racially charged things the anti Obama people sputter you would think it a miracle that people of so many different races could walk in this country much less live here together. That is the true greatness about this guy that people want to call a racist, He transends race being mixed person raised to understand the views of to sides of the coin.So I say to you and your friends to challenge yourselves for a minute.What is the real reason ? Why wont you vote for him ? If you had said because of something that he had said I would consider you credible but to say because of his supporters that is trully childish a reason to give. What ever we do we had all better vote the Democrat Whomever it is or we can commit our childrens children to more wars. Heck they discussed the possibility of using Nuclear weapons in Iran . These Republicans are starting to really scare me.
no matter what you think of obama, he is the best candidate and watch it he will make the best president of america. tell me in the history of american politics where over 1 million ordinary americans contribute money for a single candidate. obama will take care of all of us considering that it is the ordinary people that finance him and vote for him.GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS OBAMA, I and my entire family will continue to contribuTe and vote for you OBAMA.

Ken Boston
Good article about the true nature of Obama's fundraising.  Not much different than that of Hillary.  Billionaire bundlers tapping their personal fortunes and networks to get someone elected they think will work favoriably for them.  It's called politics folks!!!!  Your guy is no different then Hillary he just does a better job of dancing around topics where Hillary's straight up about what she'll do.  At least if Hillary doesn't fulfill a promise I'll know it.  Obama can probably talk you out of thinking he every made a committment in the first place.  It's funny that Obama has gone against his pledge to accept public financing in light of the money that has been thrown at him.  Yet people doubt that he'll stand up for those lobbyists when money is thrown at him if he is elected?  Get real.  He's proving what kind of President he would be.  He says one thing and does another when it is convenient and more profitable for him.  So he's not GOD's gift to politics, just another politican.
Having Soros throw $400 million into the 527's to trash McCain doesn't hurt either.
jeff montreal canada (Sent Friday, April 11, 2008 12:07 PM)

Who is your dog in this race?  Tell us about them, not about Obama.  Oh wait!  Will you be voting in our election and your opinion matters; how?  Oh, it doesn't!  Thanks, but not!


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