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McCain-Biden '08?

Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:23 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mark Murray
The Republican National Committee pushes back against Biden's critical remarks on McCain today with this past clip of Biden on Jon Stewart...

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OOooouuuwwwww....well, Biden still needs to take on McCain until Obama can emerge. It's going to take a party effort to win back the White house.
At one point there were a lot of Dems that would have loved to run with McCain, even as early as January 08.  The problem is, is that sometime in the past couple of months he has been a puppet for the Republican Party rather than the man who use to vigorously fight against Bush and what he stood for.  Since becoming the Republican nominee, McCain has lost his "Maverick" approach and is just another GOP stooge rather than the Senator that made him popular with Independants, liberal Republicans, and conservatice Democrats.
I, too, thank John McCain for his service to this country, but I don't think that he deserves to be President, nor do I think that he would make a good President.  

However, that said, I would like to hear the rest of the sentence.  These sound byte wars are stupid and misleading.  Stop it.

Vote with your head, vote for the economy, vote for jobs.

Vote Democratic 2008 -- don't let the corporations and their Republican stooges win again.  
A democrat faking outrage? I'm shocked I tell you shocked.
That's BEFORE McBush sold his soul to the neocons for their support.
He would never support McCain over Obama. He was being cordial and respectful, and that was a while ago.  Things have changed.
Time to microwave some popcorn and pour a soda. This is getting better and better by the hour.
Senator Biden said these words before Senator McCain flip-flopped on torture and decided it was just fine so long as it was the CIA doing the torturing.  He also spoke these words before Senator McCain stopped asking any critical questions of General Petraeus and before Senator McCain adopted the current Bush administration policy toward Iraq in whole.  

Senator Biden also prefaced his remarks today by stating that he admired Senator McCain, but disagreed with him fundamentally in Senator McCain's desire to "stay the course" in Iraq.
Uhhh... their point?

Biden has allready said that McCain is "a man I greatly admire, a man I consider a personal and close friend."

I don't get how this is supposed to be a response to anything, but whatever makes them happy I guess.
Hrmmm.... this is interesting....Biden is a GREAT VP selection for the Democrats.  But this could hurt him.
CJ,

I agree with you.  It is going to take the ENTIRE Democratic party to converge together to defeat McCain.
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
Actually McVain and Shrub are joined at the wallet.
Republicans using Jon Stewart as a SOURCE... HA HA HA HA HA HA... It's SATIRE TV.
While I have much respect for Joe Biden, even he can't sway me to vote obama.
McCain is head and shoulders above obama as far as being presedential material.
If, in all actuality, there was a McCain-Biden ticket, that's got my vote.
What was the date of this tape? If it was before the wheels fell off the "straight talk express" Biden's comment is understandable. McCain at one time opposed Bush tax cuts to the wealthy, describing them as a "shock to the conscience" and blamed Bush for a failed war plan that put our troops in more danger with no exit strategy
What matters is how long ago was this interview done.  The McCain of today is not the same McCain of a few years back.  A few years ago, the Bush tax cuts "offend[ed] [his] conscience" but now he wants to extend them indefinetely!
Ouch! He just lost any chance of becoming anybody's VP. This is exactly like Bill and Hillary Clinton praising McCain - the kind of stupid mistakes Democrats make.
Biden, like many Americans used to respect John McCain, before he hopped off the Straight Talk Express and boarded George W. Bush's Crazy Train.
Yeah, that was before McCain FLIP-FLOPPED on the Bush Tax Cuts, Torture, the financing of his campaign, and forgot the difference between a Sunni and a Shia!

Obama/Biden '08
I would love a McCain/Biden ticket. I would vote for them. That would be a great bipartisian ticket and bring real change.
Good Lord I hope not!  McCain is hideous and them together would be a crime against man!
Hah. Joe Biden has no crediability to criticize McCain when just a few months ago he would be honored to run with a "personal friend", aka John McCain. Some friend... but hey, he is just a partisan politician who wants to get in the boat with Obama. Reminds me how Bill Richardson switched "friends" when he endorsed Obama, when he was brownnosing for months to get into Hillary's cabinet.
They're kidding, right?

It's "The Daily Show" (which I think is freakin' hysterical)!

Do they really take it seriously?
wet behind the ears
Doesn't this just open the door back to those Kerry/McCain '04 rumors
LMAO Biden is a lying plagerism IDIOT
Doubt it. But he could bring a lot of experience to the Obama ticket.
Well, that slip up is not Biden's fault.  McCain is such a master chameleon, Biden was probably thinking how liberal he is and just confused him for a democrat.  Easy mistake.  Just like all of the republicans that were fooled into thinking he's conservative and got him the nomination.  Oh well. Everyone screws up once in a while.  What's the harm in that?  So we have to pay for it by spending another 100 years in Iraq.  You know, according to the Old Testament, 100 years is nothing!    
Biden and Obama. Dumb and Dumber.
I'll bet that was before McCain sang his little "bomb bomb Iran" ditty and made the idiotic claim that Shia Iran was training Sunni Al Qaeda. Biden seems to realize now that McCain's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor.
It is nice to have the evidence that Biden approved of McCain at one time because he probably still does - he just can't admit it since it is an election year.  Since the Democratic Party is delusional with their backing of Obama and feel he can beat McCain in November after everything he has going against him - I won't feel so badly voting for McCain - now that I have Biden's blessing. The Democratic Party is clueless in their assessment of the 29% of Hillary voters claiming they will vote for McCain if she isn't the nominee are exaggerating and come November will still vote Democratic is naive.  After this last fiasco of yet another example of Obama's "white racism," people aren't going to vote for him.  Good Luck Democrats.  As a life-long Democrat - I am now an Independent.  Thanks Biden - In a perfect world it would have been a Hillary/Biden 2008 Ticket.  
Which is it Joe, do you like McCain or not? Make a stand and be a man at least once in your life.
With an Obama nomination the Dems are handing the White House to the Republicans on a silver platter...
This shows how Hillary has shot herself in the foot and made herself unelectable in November. You can bet that if she wins the nomination the Republicans will have tons of video of Hillary praising McCain, saying he's crossed the threshhold to be commmand in chief, etc.   They will run those videos of her praising McCain over and over and over.  It will undercut any critism she makes of McCain.
Funny how they only sent out this edited clip. Didn't want to remind the "right wing" that Joe Biden considered you for a KERRY-McCAIN 2004 ticket? But once again, that was the old John McCain, no to the bush tax cuts but new John McSame wants to make them permanent. Keep talking Joe, you are reminding the Democrats why we need to win the White House!
Is that the best the GOP can do? Rather than even trying to push back on the argument that Biden was making, they simply say "hey, look, he said nice things about McCain once, therefore he's a liar!"
Is it really too much to believe that Biden might respect Sen. McCain as a person, and even as a politician (stylistically, at least), while finding his policies wrong? And I bet Biden was comparing McCain to George Bush.
It would be nice if you guys would provide a link to the entire segment <http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=125441&title=joe-biden-pt,-2> so we could see the context (Biden was saying that McCain, who was then disgusted with Bush and the Republican party, should have been Kerry's running mate), or at least mention that the Daily Show excerpt above is from August 2, 2005, years before McCain flip-flopped and decided to embrace Bush's leadership in the Iraq war.

But, hey, why check facts?  
How old is that clip? I mean, seriously -- just the mention of Bill Frist dates it.

I guess the McCain campaign and the RNC have decided to trot out some 25-second Daily Show clip from yesteryear in a sorry attempt to counter Biden's recent speech at Georgetown University where his unmatched command of foreign policy and national security issues was definitely apparent.

It seems they must be worried about Biden stepping up and taking them on. ... And, frankly, they should be.
That was then, this is now.
McCain continues to espouse and expand on his "dead wrong" (Biden's words) approach to Foreign Policy.  Biden has witnessed this and obviously has re-evaluated his opinion.
That was the old John McCain though. (Before he embraced the religious fanatics, or as Jon Stewart put it, "went into Crazy Base-Land.") And just what party would they have run under if they had run together? Recall that John McCain was going to switch parties some time back when Jeffords switched to Independent in order to stop the Republican madness in the Senate.

Since that time, John McCain has changed alot. He has resigned to the idea that he must be just like Dubya. And that's when most of us out here lost our respect for him.
McCain will mop the floor with Obama. Obama is a great speaker but John McCain, a tough opponent for anyone is Obama's worst nightmare. McCain is going to shred Obama's together we can save the world answer to every problem.
Biden's best comeback to the RNC pointing out how he said he'd be fine being on the same ticket as McCain -- is of course that McCain would be **Biden's VP** on a **DEM** ticket :-)
Biden is not the right attack dog for Democrats, he has too many blunders and difficult positions to explain to be anything but a distraction in the end, ultimately; I hope he is not considered by Obama for VP.  

Among other things, Biden's Iraq position could actually be manipulated to distract from Obama's crystal clear stand on the issue all these years (Obama's position being as follows: 1). invading and occupying Muslim countries INCREASES terrorism, not decreases 2). cutting war funding is a last resort even in an ill-concieved war and 3). Congress does not have to fund troops indefinitely once its the only check and balance left against a President who insists continuing a permanent war that decreases our national security, ignoring a clear anti-war mandate by the voters in the last election; the Constitution would not have given Congress war powers if it allowed for the President to wield them unchecked like a mad king).  Biden helps on point number two, but distracts from point one and three by having agreed with McCain on the issue when voting came up; Obama doesn't need old Biden quotes beating him over the head all year.
He was being diplomatic.  There is no way Biden would run on a Republican ticket!  As a matter of fact, he has been going out to take aim at McCain so he doesn't get such a free ride while the Dems continue to run for the party nomination.   I saw Biden go after McCain on Countdown and I must say that Senator Biden's aim is quite good.
I would vote for McCain/Biden in a heartbeat.  They could bring the two parties together and hopefully between them come up with a real solution for Iraq.  Instead of working against the other party, it would be nice to see them work together.    
"But once again, that was the old John McCain, no to the bush tax cuts but new John McSame wants to make them permanent"

If you want to pay more in taxes, then by all means, I'm sure that the IRS will accept your generous donation.  (I'd suggest just donating more $$ to charity though; they generally spend it more wisely).  However, please don't make the rest of us pay extra $$ to the bloated, inefficient federal government.  I believe that most people don't like paying taxes and think that even rich people making  $75,000/ year shouldn't have their taxes increased.

This is just plain stupid, he said nice things so in essence he should be McCains VP. The silly season has started.
I have many friends that I really like, but I don't agree with everything they think.
If we had to agree with everything our friends and family think in order to like them then we would all be alone.
What is this election about?
It is about getting rid of one issue politics and creating a government that works to get problems solved.
The devisiveness of the last few years lies at the doorstep of one issue politics practiced by the republican party.
The message to send to the republicans-it's your fault, if you cannot fix it then you are the problem!
Time for you to go! Dems in 08.


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