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Obama: Electability concerns?

Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:12 AM by Domenico Montanaro

The New York Times, keeping the “bitter” story alive, delves into some electability concerns about Obama. "Indeed, advisers to Mr. Obama concede, his job has been made that much more complicated by his remarks about bitterness among small-town voters. Though it remains unclear what effect the episode will have in the long run, it has suddenly prompted a series of questions -- and worry -- from Democrats about whether Mr. Obama could weather a Republican onslaught in the fall, should he win the presidential nomination.”

“In Pennsylvania, as well as coming primaries in Indiana and North Carolina, did Mr. Obama provide another excuse for white voters to voice qualms about his candidacy without acknowledging that it is his race that troubles them? If he defeats Mrs. Clinton, will accusations of elitism dog him as they have previous Democratic nominees? Does Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, suddenly have an issue that will resonate for the next six months?" 

Morning Joe featured Obama communications director Robert Gibbs and Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson discussing this issue, and several others this morning.

USA Today fact-checks Obama's claims about lobbyists and finds some inconsistencies.  "Obama often boasts he is "the only candidate who isn't taking a dime from Washington lobbyists," yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show. Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists, have pledged to raise at least $3.5 million for the Illinois senator's presidential race. Employees of their firms have given Obama's campaign $2.26 million, a USA TODAY analysis of campaign finance data shows.”

More: “Thirty-one of the 38 are law firm partners, who typically receive a share of their firm's lobbying fees. At least six of them have some managerial authority over lobbyists… Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said that while Obama's refusal to take money from lobbyists ‘isn't a perfect solution or symbol, it does reflect Obama's record of trying to change the way that Washington does business.’ He declined to elaborate.”

The Wall Street Journal reports on Obama's attempts to talk about his humble background in order to fight this elitist tag. "On the stump, Sen. Obama has begun reminding audiences that his single mother was on food stamps, that he attended a private high school on a scholarship and that he paid off law-school student loans with his wife, Michelle, just six years ago. ‘I know what it's like to see a mother get sick and worry that maybe she can't pay the bills,’ he said at a building-trade conference in Washington on Tuesday.”

This is easily the toughest column Maureen Dowd has written on Obama in a while. "What turns off voters is the detached egghead quality that they tend to equate with a wimpiness, wordiness and a lack of action -- the same quality that got the professorial and superior Adlai Stevenson mocked by critics as Adelaide. The new attack line for Obama rivals is that he’s gone from J.F.K. to Dukakis. (Just as Dukakis chatted about Belgian endive, Obama chatted about Whole Foods arugula in Iowa.)"

An interview taped a month ago with Obama on the subject of basketball aired on HBO's On Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel Tuesday night, NBC’s Lauren Appelbaum notes. "Growing up in Hawaii without a father, without many African Americans, here is a place where being black was not a disadvantage," Obama told Gumbel after a pick up game in North Carolina. "There was something special about that."

He also compared basketball to jazz as intricately related to African-American culture. But when asked if basketball was defining of his race, Obama said no. "We could have done a whole interview on football," he said. "I love football. I'm just a little skinny to play football."

Michelle Obama was on Colbert. The New York Post writes Colbert asked “whether Obama ever used her husband's campaign themes of ‘hope’ and ‘change’ to get him to do household tasks, as in: ‘I hope that you will change the cat litter.’ ‘What I make sure Barack knows is that 'Yes we can!' Whatever we need to do -- 'Yes we can!'’ quoting another Obama campaign theme, and getting laughs from an audience that appreciated the banter as a racy bedroom reference.” Watch her interview here.

Ahead of his Jewish meeting today, here is what Obama told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette editorial board yesterday on Israel: “‘Let's be clear, there has been a really systematic effort to suggest that I'm not sufficiently pro-Israel,’ he said. ‘The fact that my middle name is Hussein, I'm sure, does not help in that regard ... Again some of this dates back to the '60s between the African-American and the Jewish community as a consequence of [Louis] Farrakhan. There was flap about some of Jesse Jackson's statements during his presidential race, so I inherit all this baggage.’”

“While repeating an earlier statement that he disagreed with former President Jimmy Carter's decision to meet with representatives of the Palestinian group Hamas during his current trip to the Middle East, Mr. Obama said, ‘The fact is, though, that no one's been a more stalwart ally of Israel.... My support of Israel is as strong as Sen. Clinton or [Sen. John] McCain. Groups like AIPAC [the American Israel Political Action Committee] would confirm that.’”

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My God are you so hell bent on supporting Senator Clinton that you are getting into "it depends on the definition of is"?  Former Lobbyist, Boss of Lobbyist, in the presense of Lobbyist do not equal Lobbyist.  Try objective reporting for once.
My crystal ball tells me there is some "bitterness" in Barack Obama's future....probably in a place called "Denver".
Stay tuned America, this aint over yet.
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT, 2008!
These, however, are FORMER lobbyists.  They were lobbyists until they joined the Obama campaign, and once they joined the campaign, they quit their previous jobs.

Now, contrast this with, say, Mark Penn or Bill Clinton, who got PAID to lobby for at least one position that is completely opposite from Hillary Clinton's stated position on the same issue.
Unelectable, elitist? There was a fellow named Terry who blogged here yesterday and noted that Obama was called "boy" by a republican congressman and elitist by a republican senator, both in the same week. Clinton and McCain have behaved disgracefully during this non-issue's life cycle. I live in small town PA and Obama is right. There is nothing wrong with his assertion, and nothing wrong with the behavior of those who have been left behind in this state and elsewhere. I look forward to the day when politicians can speak the truth without qualification.
I think Obama would weather a "Republican onslaught in the Fall" if Democrats were uniting around him now.  Its hard for him to do that with the Clintons leading the charge.  Let's inject a little dose of reality here.  Remember Obama carries with him a groundswell of new voters (of all different sorts) with him that prior candidates did not have.  He also has a lot of indys and some Repubs that prior candidates did not have.

And then there's the myriad of different questions on the Clinton's electability both on historical grounds and on recent events such as the way she has conducted her campaign.

And then there's the down ballot aspects to Obama v. Clinton.  I'd argue that down ballot victories are more assured with Obama.  A lot more risky with Clinton.

So superdelegates should think about that too.

YES WE CAN!
I know this will not be posted but I have to say it.Mr Montanaro once again another attempt to beat a dead horse.Face it small town people have lost jobs do to the last 2 decades in the White House.I notice that none of the News Channels made a big deal of a southern Congressman refering to Senator Obama as (boy).I further find it funny that this story has had 6 days and counting of news proliferated coverage. It is shameful to say this but You Mr. Montanaro are a part of the problem.You look for everything negative to write about Senator Obama,even Dan Abrams believes as a lot of people do that this is being used by the media because of a loll in things to report.Face the facts his poll numbers have gone up since this supposed gaffe . Even though I have lost almost every ounce of respect I ever had for the Clintons . I can be fair toward them when I see the rare valid point that they are trying to make .Unfortunately they have been fewer and farther between as this thing is drawn out.I dont think that it will be a need for the GOP 527's to attack this because You Mr. Montanaro and the rest of the media vultures are doing it for them.
Oh Please! There is a huge difference between receiving individual contributions from employees of firms (even if they are partners)and recieving checks CLEARLY marked PAC's.  Individuals support individual candidates because they agree with the candidate's philosophy.  PAC's support candidates because they expect something in return.  Clinton = PAC's. Pure and simple. Bill Clnton is the prime example.

That is why it is critical to see who donated to Clinton's Library and Foundation. You don't write a check for a million dollars to the Clintons without expecting something big in return.

These newspapers completely ignore the fact that 1.3 million individual donors have made small donations to the Obama campaign.  No PAC's, just people.

Does the New York Times actually think that 2 minutes of a grainy, inaudible, secret tape recording is going to negate the thousands of hours of detailed public speeches and interviews that Obama has given over the last year?

Of course bigoted people are not voting for Obama because of his race.  They do not need an "excuse".  They have already declared it loud and clear. Just ask any of us who have canvassed for Obama in Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Indiana.

The amount of hatred and bigotry is amazing in the Midwest and Northeast USA.  John McCain has a built-in advantage just because of his skin color.
Wow. MSNBC- I'm really disppointed in your coverage.

None of the lobbyist criticism is really fair, and ignores the fact that Obama's strength in fundraising comes from over a milllion small donors... We're on the verge of losing the best candidate this generation has ever seen because the media laps up whatever sour milk Hillary Clinton spills on the floor (and then cries over).
I've send money to Obama
I work for the government...OMG!!!

Headlines: Government gives money to Obama!!!

Big difference...

give 'em hell BMR, Pittsburg, PA
Why not add this to the list of electability issues since this is obviously being ignored by the media who only like to bash Clinton.
More is coming out about the party Rezko hosted for Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi. Now it’s being said that a witness saw Sen. Obama at the party and even toasted Auchi. Sen. Obama has no recollection of being at this party…is he “mis-remembering or lying?? Enough with this TEFLON candidate. WE as voters need to know the truth now not when he is in the White House.

See! The Emperor has no clothes!  Obama caught with his pants down with his all his lies about being so sanctimonious regarding the taking of lobbiest money.  You are a phony!
So The NY Times is in the tank for Clinton...

Why is it OK for Clinton to lie all the time and when Obama makes one mistake its news for days??

Why are we not talking about Clinton v Paul on April 25th???
Why are we not talking about Clintons donor list or earmarks she still has not presented???

I am surprised that MSNBC has bought into this junk.

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

//These, however, are FORMER lobbyists.  They were lobbyists until they joined the Obama campaign, and once they joined the campaign, they quit their previous jobs.

Now, contrast this with, say, Mark Penn or Bill Clinton, who got PAID to lobby for at least one position that is completely opposite from Hillary Clinton's stated position on the same issue.//

Exactly. They QUIT their former jobs as lobbyists. Journalists need to stop being so inept. Report the truth! As a student of journalism, I've never before been as ashamed of the media as I've been since this campaign started.
I for one am very suspicious of the fact that the media has chosen to IGNORE the Clinton/Peter Paul situation.

Everyone is so focused on Obama and his "bitter" comments and whatever else they wish to talk about.

Why won't any of MSNBC, Chris Matthews, or Keith Olbermann talk about the Peter Paul situation?

It makes one wonder just how much the Clinton's may be influencing the media to keep hush hush until after the PA primary.

It seems the only ones talking about the Peter Paul situation are the people who comment on First Read from time to time
I have ehard this kind of talk. irst it was Hillary's electability problem, then McElitist, then Hillary and again Hillary until it is now Obama. And if the Republicans have a lot to say about Obama, the Dems do have a truckload of thigns to hit McWar with, including his Shiite-Sunni repeated gaffes, which paints him as a liar in terms of foreign policy expertise.
Pennsylvania is the GREATEST!!!!

Billary's show stopper...

Obama'08
Once Obama finally puts this to bed, he will be able to focus on McCain.  Now, really, there is a stark contrast between John McCain and Obama.  Obama will be able to draw these contrasts and this back-n-forth between Hillary and Obama will be history.  Obama will do fine against John McCain.  I, for one, will not choose out of fear.
These citizens, are fundraisers. This is more of the same innuendo that was thrown out there about the oil company's, individual donations, and the innuendo about Barack being a Muslim. The later of which is a bigoted attack on Muslims which no one has called anyone, whether pundits, or private citizens, on as such. It has been open season on Barack, and especially Muslims. It is completely un-American.
The problem with Obama is that we don't know who he is.  We know he is for change but what changes will he make.  

He naively says that he will reduce the windfall profits from the oil companies.  That, my friend is laughable. The oil companies are probably looking for a loop hole now.

Obama says he will look for alternative energy sources but never gives us the details.

Obama sys he will improve education get more money to the schools but schools get their money from local taxes. Is he going to change this structure?

We need a president who understands the establishment in DC first. That has the leadership, strength, determination and experience to make changes that are real and material to our lives.

Hillary in '08
Anne, PA
Obama has not blah, blah, blah:

Is Hillary sweating yet?  She should be!  The Peter Paul trial starts soon.  It will make the Rezko story look like a church picnic.  

Hillary is toast!

Obama in 2008.  Integrity matters and the Clintons have none.
OBAMA HAS NOT BEEN FULLY VETTED, COME ONE "MAIN STREAM MEDIA; REPORT THE REZKO STORY! (Sent Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:20 AM)

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Signing a blog with an attack in CAPS...how childish.

Senator Obama has not been charged with anything in his dealings with Rezko.

Compare that with Senator McCain who faced ethics charges in the senate for his involvement as one of the Keating Five and the litany of Senator Clinton's scandals...

...including the upcoming Paul v. Clinton suit that the MSM has also not talked about.
I knew he wasn't being honest about this. Senator Obama is not a new kind of politician he is the same old politician with newer lies.
Still, with all the problems both candidates have made for themselves, I just can't vote republican, I'll take either dem and all their baggage.
Lets see this election for what it truely is, getting the party that has put us in these dire situations out of power.
Vote dem and tell the republican party that we know that they are at fault for many of our current problems.
GO HILLARY !!!!
Obama will not win - he is too ARROGANT - SO is his wife - you can Hear the HATE in her voice - always so angry - WHY????  This is not what we need/want in the White House.  Obama needs to step aside - for the good of the party!
Obama will go down in flames like Dukakis in 1988 and Mondale in 1984...what a shame...see ya'll in 2012!
With the Jewish voter, I don't know how Obama is avoiding questions about his flip-flop on the Palestinian issue to get elected. The article on his foreign affairs "experience" in Pakistan and other middle-eastern countries certainly reinforces the perception that his real sympathies lie with Israel's enemies even if he spouts pro-Israel rhetoric.
This war of words is apparently part of politics.  I hate it, but I am also resolved and determined that no rove-like, swift-boating tactics are going to influnece me in this campaign. Senator Clinton sounds like a republican pundit.  She cares more about herself then the democtratic party. Look at what the republicans have done, this nation is going into the severest recession EVER and it is their fault.  As the gas prices continue to rise, so does the severity and length of the economic situation.  The republicans have spun all the angles they can get out of this recession for the good, from here on in the numbers will get bleaker and bleaker.  We are in serious trouble and all the republicans can do is lie about the democrats at any cost, just to control the white house.  We will elect a democratic president and I pray it is Senator Obama.  He will bring our troops home now and begin to do the things needed to be done to heal this nation.  Enough with this stupid trade talk crap--it is just a way for American business men to keep from paying fair wages and providing insurance to their workers.  Yet, they can keep their profits.  Well, guess what, that termite just ate the underpinning of America's economy. The negative ads on Obama will not work. Not this time.  We, who are his supporters,will fight you every step of the way.  We're fired up and ready to go!  Yes We Can defeat the venom of the republican rhetoric machine.  You just hide and watch!  OBAMA 08
Pennsylvania voters, fellow Americans, please consider getting on board with us in backing Senator Obama! It is time that we patriots all joined together behind this wonderful candidate who is NOT aligned with corporate special interests!  Donations come from individuals and all of us have some industry we are tied to.  When he takes contributions from the people, there are NO FAVORS REQUIRED from him.

These corporate special interests that control American politics don't stand a chance against us because Obama is the ONLY candidate that has built the ONLY weapon that can be effective against the special interest money/influence. The weapon that I speak of is the 1.2+ million individual donors and more importantly individual voter database! Help grow that database even more and be a part of the calvary that frees America's politics from those corporate groups that Clinton and McCain are publicly and politically aligned with!

We are the ones we have been waiting for, sound the charge!

-US Army veteran

Look people, the CLINTONS ARE PLAYING BOTH ENDS AGAINST THE MIDDLE.  Take a close look at it.  Bill is on the money end and Hilary on the power end.  Each working both ends against the middle and voters are right in the middle being played for suckers.   They wear their facade well and it's amazing to me how many are falling for it.  

Obama felt the pain of the Pennsylvanians and tried to convey it to them and look at what the Clintons do with it.  Try to divide people again through apathy instead of unite people with empathy.  

What Obama was trying to say to you was this:

You had you jobs, your pensions, your health care, you livelihoods ripped away from you.   So the things you have left (your most valued possessions): your faith your families, your guns (because you’re a hunting community) your friends, you don’t want to have them taken from you as well so you hold tight to those.  Holding on to these valued things are what helps get us through the tough times.  He was showing that he feels the plight of those in this situation.      

The Clintons, instead of feeling your pain, again, ARE USING YOU PENNSYLVANIANS (voters) to get at Obama.

This is the Clintons, anything to get a vote including tearing people apart instead of bringing people together.   Pathetic!
More of the Clinton "kitchen sink" strategy as PA day nears... don't fall for it guys. Too many of my friends here in TX made up their undecided minds on voting day based on the last 3 days of the campaign where Clinton used fear and smear tactics, and truly regretted voting for her based on her distortions.
By the end of the day, Obama will be further ahead. The media is trying SO hard to bring him down but voters see through the smoke. Obama is the next POTUS. Go "O!!!"
Why does it matter what view Obama has on Israel anyway? Why is it so important for another country to approve our president? Obama is running for the office of the President of the USA. The intrests of the USA should be top priority overall.
To paraphrase HRC "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"  There is PAC money and there is money from individuals.  Two candidates accept money from PACs - one declaring that PAC's represent real people too!, and one candidate who does not.

All of them accept individual contributions from people of all walks of life, to include lawyers, doctors, business owners, convicted criminals, foreigners, drug addicts, etc.  BHO received donations from 1.2 MILLION people in February alone - does anyone think that his campaign has time to cross check the professions, affiliations to include memberships, boards of directors, family ties including by marriage, the veracity of the information submitted,etc of all those donors?

All of them have received money from someone that they really do not want to have affiliated with their campaign. BHO has returned funds that after receipt were confirmed to be from lobbyists.  Giving them the benefit of a doubt, I'm sure that Senator's McCain and Clinton have also refused some donations.
There is no one more ARROGANT than Hillary Clinton when she tried to defend her Bosnia lie.

She arrogantly stated or words to the effect.  So I made a mistake.  It just proves I'm human.....etc.

A mistake many times over.  The Clinton's in their arrogance forget that we are in a technological age now where facts can be checked unlike when Bill was running for President.

They are the Gepetto and Pinocchio of the Democratic Party.  Now who are Jiminy Cricket and Stromboli?
Brian M. De.

Just a note. If you write "This probably wont be posted" at the beginning of your post your argument is weaken already.

I'm glad the media didn't spend even an hour on this issue because it is a none issue.  If this is news what's next?  The next time Hillary takes a picture with another AA girl who gives her a despising look MSM should spend a day or two because there must be something wrong with the American people for thinking or feeling a certain way about a candidate.  

As you know, issues gets posted as well as non-issues.  Your argument sir, is an non issue. We are vetting CANDIDATES. Now lets get back to the issues.
Silly Democrats.
What is elite about getting food stamps, fahter leaving you at two, mother leaves you to do missionary work, getting scholarship to attend school, and just paying off hsi loans.  We are tired of this media onslaught.  Why don't you do real journailism and find out what our real problems are.  He will be president!!!
In SC, President Clinton made a factual statement that J. Jackson twice won SC but didn't get the nomination. People twisted that into a racist statement. Yet, Obama says: An interview taped a month ago with Obama on the subject of basketball aired on HBO's On Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel Tuesday night, NBC’s Lauren Appelbaum notes. "Growing up in Hawaii without a father, without many African Americans, here is a place where being black was not a disadvantage," Obama told Gumbel after a pick up game in North Carolina. "There was something special about that." ement."............Now, is he showing his racial bias again?
" Enough with this TEFLON candidate. WE as voters need to know the truth now not when he is in the White House.


Barb, Chicago, IL (Sent Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:34 AM)

See! The Emperor has no clothes!  Obama caught with his pants down with his all his lies about being so sanctimonious regarding the taking of lobbiest money.  You are a phony!
Pat huntington NY (Sent Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:37 AM)"

You two Clintonistas should know a liar when you see one - apparently you are looking in the WRONG direction.

I also have to laugh at this boards.  Does MSNBC bash Clinton or Obama? I read both.  

Also - I think the media was offended by the SNL skits about them supposedly fawning over BO, so now they going overboard.  Fair and balanced my eye.


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